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Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:24:57 2011 No.2518680 [Reply] [Original]

Immanuel Kant, a German PHILOSOPHER, was the greatest intellectual of human history. How does that make you /sci/ fags feel?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:25:57 2011 No.2518687 what book of his should I read?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:26:57 2011 No.2518689 I was unaware of this "fact"

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:26:57 2011 No.2518696 >subjective value judgments >How does that make you /sci/ fags feel? right. Anyway, I like Kant. I'm getting the feeling that you've already been trolled, and this thread is a continuation of how trolled you've been.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:33:57 2011 No.2518727 >>2518696 Kant really is the central figure in modern philosophy. Yet I nevertheless find his greatest contribution to reasoned discourse was troll bait at Randists.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:43:57 2011 No.2518772 >>2518687 Read his Introduction to Logic, it makes a great springboard into his work, which can be opaque at first glance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:46:57 2011 No.2518796 >>2518680 Kant is a bro tier INTJ, while pussies like Sartre are completely INTP.

>>	poorengineer Fri Feb 11 21:48:57 2011 No.2518807 wasn't he the guy who talked about objective morality? it's actually a scientific alternative to religious morality, so yea he could be considered pretty important.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:49:57 2011 No.2518810 >>2518796 And then you get faggots that take Miggs-Bryers drivel seriously.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:49:57 2011 No.2518813 >>2518796 That's why Kant sucks. Kierkegaard is god-tier INTP.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:50:57 2011 No.2518817 He was also a real pissant.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:51:57 2011 No.2518822 bitch, please. Locke >> Kant

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:52:57 2011 No.2518828 >>2518810 I'm far too choleric to take offense.

>>	poorengineer Fri Feb 11 21:52:57 2011 No.2518829 File: 41 KB, 500x448, 4a3b0d67-7f43-40e8-bf0c-2fd497218bed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2518822 agreed

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:53:57 2011 No.2518835 EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEmanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable....

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:54:57 2011 No.2518849 >>2518822 Hume pisses on your arbitrary philosophical models.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:55:57 2011 No.2518850 Fuck you all. You fucking science faggots don't deserve to have an opinion on philosophy. Stick with your fucking science you worthless shits.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:56:57 2011 No.2518858 >>2518850 Bad day at McDonalds?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:57:57 2011 No.2518863 File: 41 KB, 320x320, himonya-angry.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2518850 >angry liberal arts major

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:58:57 2011 No.2518870 >>2518863 No, you should just stop being interested in other subjects and stick with the one you chose, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 21:59:57 2011 No.2518882 I like him and I really want to read his work some day. Most of what I know of him is from introductory studies, his original texts are so damn hard to read if you're not an ace in Western culture.

>>	poorengineer Fri Feb 11 22:00:57 2011 No.2518884 File: 7 KB, 228x221, images (3).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2518870 you will never understand why people study what they dont "need" to

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:00:57 2011 No.2518885 File: 100 KB, 468x558, yeahumad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2518870 >implying I'm not a double major

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:00:57 2011 No.2518886 File: 35 KB, 200x248, 1264140917627.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2518870 >stop being interested in other subjects Somebody has sand up their vagina.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:00:57 2011 No.2518888 Anyone who doesn't believe Aristotle is the biggest intellectual who has ever lived, has no idea what he's talking about.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:02:57 2011 No.2518898 File: 690 KB, 519x600, hahah.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2518888 >forms >aether >souls >intellectual

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:02:57 2011 No.2518903 >>2518888 Aristotle set back empirical enquiry a fair bit, though. Objects fall with velocity proportional to their weight? Really?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:11:57 2011 No.2518939 >>2518680 einstein really looked up to Kant and studied his work carefully kant > einstein

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:11:57 2011 No.2518945 >>2518898 aristotle started science and ethics everything before him was retarded and about Gods aristotle brought everything down to earth

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:14:57 2011 No.2518955 >>2518945 >doesn't know about several pre-socratic philosophers that proposed rational ethical systems >probably hasn't even read Socrates or Plato

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:16:57 2011 No.2518966 nietzsche fucks kant's shit up all the time, fags

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:16:57 2011 No.2518965 File: 12 KB, 237x213, ba da.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2518945 >He brought everything down to Earth. I think you mean gravity.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:17:57 2011 No.2518976 >>2518939 If Einstein had lived first, Kant would have looked up to him. Such testimony only counts when it is between contemporaries.

>>	poorengineer Fri Feb 11 22:18:57 2011 No.2518980 File: 115 KB, 720x619, G1IzO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2518965

Shiro Fri Feb 11 22:23:57 2011 No.2519019

>>2518955

>implying Socrates wrote shit.

lol.

>implying Plato wasn't ridiculous.

God King philosopher? I mean, really? LOL.

Nicomachean Ethics serves as the basis for human morality and how human rationale can, above all, achieve goodness. It is the treatise which Cicero bases his essay, De Amicitia, on and it is also highly reputable in old Christian Philosophy/Theology. In fact, Aquinas -- a reputed scholar of Christian thought -- quoted Aristotle and utilized his words to enforce the truth of God.

Socrates died too soon/early, and Plato was too overboard. Furthermore, Plato contradicted himself several times. Diogenes called Plato out on his bullshit from time to time, too. Aristotle was, and still is, the complete authority on Greek Philosophy.

Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:24:57 2011 No.2519026

I've not read too much but I think Kant's metaphysical models of morality especially his categorical imperative lack the practicality of Hume's empirical model, or Mill's utilitarian model. On that alone I'm not convinced he wasn't simply too out there for a lot of his work to be a bit too much reliant on reason alone in the model of Aristotle, which much of our modern knowledge moves away from. Although I do like his account of free will. The most convincing one i've ever heard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:29:57 2011 No.2519061 >>2518898 Check the post you quoted, bro. It got quads, and is therefore fact.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:46:57 2011 No.2519131 >>2518955 >>doesn't know about several pre-socratic philosophers >implying the pre-socratics weren't simply Rhetoricians and con men who did it for the money no thanks, i'll stick with Socrates and aristotle

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:48:57 2011 No.2519137 >>2519131 >implying socrates didn't rip half his shit from his philosophical forefathers Tis the nature of philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:49:57 2011 No.2519148 Everyone knows that Hegel was the culmination of German philosophy

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:51:57 2011 No.2519157 >>2518888 Aristotle was a misogynistic twat

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:53:57 2011 No.2519169 >>2519131 Orly? Democritus, Heraclitus, etc... all conmen?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 22:56:57 2011 No.2519177 >>2519157 Well, that completely demolishes all of his philosophy.

Shiro Fri Feb 11 23:03:57 2011 No.2519218

>>2519157

So?

I mean, really. So? His views/opinions were on paper and they're held by many people today.

>Women are irrational creatures who utilize their emotion primarily.

I'm sure you've heard that shit all the time, right? He was the one who actually wrote about it extensively and was the original "Bitches & Whores" guy.

Fuck year, Aristotle.

>>	Shiro Fri Feb 11 23:04:57 2011 No.2519222 >>2519157 By the way, fuck you. Bitch.

Anonymous Fri Feb 11 23:09:57 2011 No.2519242

>>2519218
Here's a quote from a philosopher who actually matters...

"Women are the only exploited group in history to have been idealized into powerlessness." -Karl Marx

Perpetuating a stereotype is nothing to be proud of. And what about the men who are driven by emotion? Love, jealousy, and in your case, bitterness.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 23:10:57 2011 No.2519249 >>2519222 Fuck you and your trips, virgin. :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 11 23:13:57 2011 No.2519263 >>2519242 >And what about the men who are driven by emotion? Love, jealousy, and in your case, bitterness. You mean men that act like women? Completely agree, that's bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 08:58:57 2011 No.2521585 File: 85 KB, 600x450, derp (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2519263

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 09:14:57 2011 No.2521623 >>2518680 moar liek immanuel CUNT! amirite?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 09:15:57 2011 No.2521626 >>2521623 Obviously a David Cume fan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 09:16:57 2011 No.2521631 >>2521626 moar liek a GAY-vid Cume fan, amirite?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 09:18:57 2011 No.2521632 >>2521631 It's the Eternal Recurrance of The Gay Science.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 09:22:57 2011 No.2521640 File: 17 KB, 508x395, fuckyea.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2521632 Time for some uberman-on-man action.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 09:26:57 2011 No.2521651 >>2518807 No, he's the creator of Kantian deontology. It's not objective morality. I like it though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 09:44:57 2011 No.2521690 >>2521651 >implying

Anonymous Sat Feb 12 09:45:57 2011 No.2521692
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oh hey there just mixing plato's eternal forms with kant's object in itself with the hindu upanishads to create a world view so powerful that it influenced darwin and einstein.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 09:47:57 2011 No.2521694 Einstein, Faraday, Tesla, Sagan, Newton, Archimedes, and Da Vinci would all like to have a word with you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 09:49:57 2011 No.2521696 File: 101 KB, 487x735, 1292619946695..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2521694 >list >incomplete list >why even list

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 09:53:57 2011 No.2521704 >>2521696 Well only so many people can have a word with OP at one time. Plato, Eratosthenes, Darwin and the other will have to wait their turn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 12 10:07:57 2011 No.2521723 >>2521704 I'm imagining this as the line forming for one of the highest-IQ gangbangs in history.

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