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2514990 No.2514990 [Reply] [Original]

Since the universe is so huge, the chances of intelligent life is very high.

So /sci/fags, what are the chances of that intelligent life looking and speaking English just like us?

>> No.2515001

>>2514990
Depends on the size of the universe. Given an infinite universe, then the chances of life out there looking basically indistinguishable from us is 1.

>> No.2515006

I seen a woman's face, within some trees, and a tear fell from her right eye, before I began my venture.

>> No.2515008

The universe is finite. Most of our minor characteristics are irrelevant to our success as a species. Intelligent life will look broadly similar (i.e. have dexterous manipulators, be land-dwelling) but will not have many characteristics we have (i.e. body shape will not be the same, will not have boobs, sexual dimorphism may be nearly nonexistent).

>> No.2515021

>>2515008
>The universe is finite.
Citations please.

Oh wait, you don't have any.

>> No.2515151

It's probably pretty likely. If they (the aliens) facilitate first contact with us, it is safe to say they are 1) capable of superluminal locomotion 2) have the ability to manipulate individual atoms at high speed 3) possess modified or artificial intelligence that is capable of processing information/thinking as high speeds.

If that is the case, they will most likely make first contact by creating modified clones of humans to make it easier to precisely engage in communication with humans. They may even already be among us as in They Live or the V tv series. However, considering the above mentioned capabilities of such entities, we would likely have nothing they wanted. They would be capable of surviving in almost any conceivable environment comfortably as to be happy living on the day-side of mercury or the night-side of pluto.

>> No.2515163

>>2515151
Actually, it's about as probable that they're not much more evolutionarily advanced than humans. And there's no reason to believe that they've achieved faster-than-light travel.

>So /sci/fags, what are the chances of that intelligent life looking and speaking English just like us?
The probability that there's an alien spieces speaking english, just like us, is zero.

>> No.2515174

Speaking English would be a real problem. Words are just random sounds.

Looking like us is hard to tell. Since we have no samples besides us we can't really say if most species would develop like us given same conditions or if even there would be a large variance.

>> No.2515183

>>2515163
I meant aliens that are able to facilitate first contact with humans will likely have superluminal technology. How else would they be able to span the distances from their host star system to our planet in a time scale that wouldn't be maddening to a hyper-intelligent nano-tech-based super being?

If we extrapolate the vernor vinge and isaa asimov theories of the advancement of technology, humanity's descendants living in the year 3000 would have almost god-like power. They would be massive and cosmic, akin to the great old ones of HP Lovecraft mythos. It would be like humans trying to communicate with ants. We wouldn't even be aware of them at first. So the only way they could have any meaningful interaction with us is to make a clone of us and program it with some awareness of its alien masters. This clone would have to possess significant powers and intelligence/knowledge in order to provide sufficient proof that it is indeed the ambassador of an alien race.

>> No.2515185

>>2515021
oh please that's stupid.
The big bang theory. Expansion theory.
The universe can be self contained however. Space-time doesn't concern itself with human notions of beginning and end; if that's what you mean.

>> No.2515189

Even with the huge universe the chance of that is so close to nil only mathematicians could say for sure that it isn't nil.

>> No.2515193

>>2515183
>How else would they be able to span the distances from their host star system to our planet in a time scale that wouldn't be maddening to a hyper-intelligent nano-tech-based super being?

You can travel any distance in an arbitrarily short time by going arbitrarily close to, but not faster than, light speed. Other than that, there's cryo sleep or the like, as it is done a loads of sci-fi, for instance Avatar or the series by Alastair Reynolds.

>humanity's descendants living in the year 3000 would have almost god-like power.
But they would still be human, species don't change that much during a mere 300 years.

>> No.2515199

>>2515189
Wrong, mathematicians would exactly say that the probability is zero. For a continuous probability distribution, the probability of any single event is zero.

>> No.2515234

High, if they are that advanced chances are they will have observed us and learned to communicate with us before making contact. I suspect every species went through a similar technological process as us, unless they were silicon based lifeforms that live in liquid methane or life forms that exist in electric processes in the sun or whatever. Chance are they have figured out a way to genetically modify future generations to have savant-like intelligence, with the same capacity to store and recall memory as a computer, they may even be machines with neural-networks similar to biological neural networks except programmable. With such intelligence it would be difficult for them not to learn our language.