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Prove <span class="math">0^0=1[/spoiler]

>> No.2509450

It doesn't?

>> No.2509454
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2509454

>>2509450
Then prove <span class="math">0^0=0[/spoiler]

>> No.2509457

The burden of proof is upon you, my friend, you make the conjecture.

>> No.2509460

>>2509454
>>2509449
0^0 = 0^1/0^1, which is indeterminate form. Indeterminate form is neither 1 nor 0.
>It has no meaning.

>> No.2509462

>>2509454
It doesn't?
0^0 is undefined, moron.

>> No.2509466

I'm fucking sick of 0 being treated as anything but a placeholder. Seriously, what good has ever come out of treating it as an actual value? It's just used for trolling.

>> No.2509475

>>2509466
It's hilarious, because there even is no concept of 0. Nothing with physical properties in the entire set universe has something with the property 0.
Sure there are things with lim n->infinity 1/n properties, but not absolute 0.

>> No.2509484

>>2509475
Are you retarded?

>> No.2509486

>>2509475
>implying this isn't true of the majority of mathematical constructs

>> No.2509491

>>2509475
what is the kinetic energy of an object at rest in a reference frame of an observer on the same celestial planet?

>> No.2509510

It can't be defined for 0, because you can't divide by 0. However, you can prove powers of 0 with any other number.

2^1 = 2*1 = 2
2 / 2 = 2^1 / 2^1 (<--- property of exponents)
2 / 2 = 2^0
1 = 2^0

>> No.2509513

>>2509491
all objects have kinetic energy, absolute zero is unreachable.

>> No.2509515
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2509515

>>2509491
Something close to zero, but due to quantum fluctuation, it isn't zero.

>> No.2509517

you can't prove something that is not true

>> No.2509530

<div class="math"> \lim_{x\to0} x^x = \lim_{x\to0} e^{x \ln x} = e^{\lim_{x\to 0} x log x} = e^0 = 1 </div>

>> No.2509532

>>2509491

On a macroscopic level, zero. On a molecular level, however the atoms move in the lattice (if it's a solid) or in the composition due to the effect of the heat in the room. This is a non-zero kinetic energy.

>> No.2509538

>>2509530
It's funny because log0 is undefined.

>> No.2509544

>>2509538

But what is 0*undefined?
0^-1/undefined=1?
I'm not sure if that's correct, because I am taking undefined to be infinity.

>> No.2509547

>>2509544

"zero" times "infinite" does not equal zero.

>> No.2509549

>>2509547

But what is 0*log(0)?

>> No.2509551

>>2509544
>taking undefined to be infinity

but infinity is defined, how can undefined be defined?

>> No.2509561

x^0=1
x=0
0^0=1

check and mate, atheists

>> No.2509728

>>2509549
l'Hospital
0*log(0) = lim_(x appr 0) x log(x) = lim_(x appr 0) x ln(x)
= lim_(x appr 0) 1 * 1/x = \infty

>> No.2509733

You can't know the true nature of 0^0 because it changes the moment we observe it.

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2509737

>>2509733

>Applying the Uncertainty Principle to Mathematics.

Dude you just went full quantum retard.

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2509745

where's the maths guise?

>> No.2509752

>>2509449

If you have zero, zero times, how many is that? One. Learn to proofs fucking children

>> No.2509753

>>2509752
2/10

>> No.2509755

>>2509475
i have 0 dollars you lose

>> No.2509761

>>2509733
No, you can know what 0^0 is if you don't know what you're looking for. But you can only ask the question "What is 0^0?" or know the answer. Not both.

>> No.2509762

>>2509761
I apologize for the inconvenience.

>> No.2509764

>>2509753

0/10

>> No.2509776

>>2509755

But monetary value is a secondary resource, so zero dollars is nothing but a scalar.