/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.2485477]

The Venus project

According to resouce-based Economy, every human will be ruled by autonomous govermental systems that will think efficient ways to keep the sustainable development for the entire human race

i mean.. we'll be ruled by super AI or something... i don't really agree with this,,,

[Anonymous No.2485481]

Ruled is a rather loaded word.

What you meant to say was that the entire economic structure will be managed in real time by an AI.

[Anonymous No.2485485]

Pipe dream.

Computers do what they're programmed. Meaning the possible points of corruption are those who program the "autonomous governmental systems."

[Anonymous No.2485487]

I'm not seeing the problem...

[Anonymous No.2485492]

>>2485481
yeah, every resources in this earth will be managed by AI
not human itself

[Anonymous No.2485494]

>>2485485
Genetic algorithms, open source code, numerous mirrors. It's not like they'll be contracting Microsoft.

[Anonymous No.2485496]

No, you can't escape corruption just by calling the government a "people's republic" or a "resource based economy". We've have 100 discussions about this shit already and your argument has been crushed with the same infallible debunk every time by random posters. Are we being raided or some shit? Give up already.

If you want to discuss the game theory behind direct democracy to create an "autonomous governmental system" then just do that, just don't mention anything to do with marxism or a "resource based economy" once so you don't taff up the thread.

[Anonymous No.2485497]

>>2485492
Humans are terrible at management of resources in real time and slightly less terrible overall, I though this would be obvious by now.

Why do you care so long as you've got a house, clothes, food, and access information?

[Anonymous No.2485501]

zeitgeist is a good movie because of it tells us different point of view about world monetary system
but ther proposed solutions are somewhat too futuristic

[Anonymous No.2485504]

>>2485494
Open source is actually worse than closed source, as it means anyone can make changes. Meaning anyone can corrupt the system.

[Anonymous No.2485509]

ITT: conservative minded vs. progressives minded

[Anonymous No.2485507]

>>2485492

Human labor and creativity is a resource. Anyone who thinks computers will actually be able to replace these two things within the foreseeable future is fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.2485514]

>>2485497
People in concentration camps had clothes, food, housing, and access to information.

[Anonymous No.2485525]

>>2485504
And anyone can un-corrupt a system, it goes both ways.

>>2485507
The vast majority of human labor could be automated today with minimal R&D.

Creativity suffers when using external motivators, thus the only thing humans are good for performs sub-optimally in a pay for performance society like ours.

[Anonymous No.2485526]

>>2485504
>>2485494

you both are stupid.


First of all, open source, doesn't mean anybody can change anything. You still have consider security measures, even with closed source. It's like saying: "I can move the shelf in my own house so I can move just as easily move the shelves in another house".

Secondly, the other one is just replying with random words. Like generic algorithms have anything to do with possible corruption or can even counter them.

[Anonymous No.2485527]

>>2485514
>>>/b/

0/10

[Tautoulogic !fcsdUrivQ. No.2485530]

ITT: conservative minded vs. progressive minded

[Anonymous No.2485538]

>>2485525
By that logic, crime is easy to prevent, because there are witnesses everywhere.

[Anonymous No.2485540]

>>2485538
Define what you mean by crime.

[Anonymous No.2485556]

>>2485540
This thread.

[Anonymous No.2485557]

>>2485526
If something is open source, but not open to everyone to change, whats the difference between that and closed source? Its still empowering a very small group of people, thus, just as vulnerable to corruption as any other governmental type.

[Anonymous No.2485564]

human nature are destructivable

we can't have a world that peaceful, no-war, global equality...bla bla bla

that ideal world will be never happend

just accept that we are live in this fucking world until apocalypse comes

[Anonymous No.2485568]

>>2485540
Any.

[Anonymous No.2485567]

if the government can brainwash people why don't my subliminal weight loss tapes work? i'm eating a box of marshmallow cookies right now.

[Anonymous No.2485576]

>>2485567
The government has been brainwashing you to be fat longer than your weightloss tapes have been brainwashing you to be thin.

[Anonymous No.2485577]

>>2485557
it means we can know how the entire systems work, but we can't easyly changed them, maybe there will be some kind of regulations to make changes

[Anonymous No.2485578]

>>2485576
why are they so insecure? i already have an ex girlfriend who wants me to be thinking about her all the time. well, in my imagination :3

[Anonymous No.2485581]

you called?

[Anonymous No.2485587]

>>2485577
So... everyone is going to be a software engineer in the technocracy.

Also, transparency doesn't mean information is impossible or even difficult to hide. It just means its hidden by flooding it out.

[Anonymous No.2485661]

[Anonymous No.2485677]

these threads make me stupider. shit ain't plausible. belongs on /x/, /b/, /tg/ maybe since this thread is a fucking choose your own adventure.

[Anonymous No.2485701]

you jelly

[Anonymous No.2485767]

>>2485564
>human nature

[Anonymous No.2485778]

>>2485568
Yea that's what I thought you'd say, after all you don't actually know what you're talking about.

Kinda like the guy I just spent an hour explaining that automated machines do actually exist to.

[Anonymous No.2485796]

>>2485477
PROTIP: Go to China, become friends with politicians, talk about Venus project --> ??? --> Profit!

[Anonymous No.2485807]

I agree OP. I would rather have some old piece of shit reign over me. Some old random guy, I only have "respect" for due to evolutionary reasons. It would be totally stupid to have a super AI, that knows the solution to every problem, rule over me.

you're so rational OP

[Anonymous No.2485825]

>>2485807
AI isn't going to exist within your lifetime. AI simulations may, but they'll just be mouthpieces for their programmers. But that isn't a distinction unique to them.

[Anonymous No.2485845]

>>2485778
Crack open a dictionary.

[Anonymous No.2485844]

[Anonymous No.2485854]

>>2485778
an act or the commission of an act that is forbidden or the omission of a duty that is commanded by a public law and that makes the offender liable to punishment by that law; especially : a gross violation of law

[Anonymous No.2485901]

>>2485807

lets just destroy the world and create over again

[Anonymous No.2485923]

>implying we have strong AI
Stay classy, /sci/