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[Anonymous No.2476596]

The devil wants your soul, so he challenges you to a mathematical game. The rule is very simple: you both pick a finite positive number, and whoever picks the larger one wins. You may only express your number using a combination of mathematical constants and functions (i.e.: you cannot pick your number to be x+1 where x is defined to be your opponent's number), and you have one minute to formulate your number.
Your first instinct may be to use some diabolical ( :lol: ) combination of up arrows, the Ackermann function, the busy beaver function or Graham's number, but the devil has the exact same mathematical background as you and could easily do the same. You must find a way to express a number MUCH larger than even the devil can imagine.
What do you do?

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[Anonymous No.2476623]

1

Because you see the devil does not exist, thus I win by default.

[Anonymous No.2476643]

The number of nano-joules of energy in the universe in any form.

[That guy No.2476654]

>>2476623
This

[Anonymous No.2476655]

>>2476643
Really, really dumb idea. There are some very large numbers out there, and the universe might not be infinite.

[Anonymous No.2476653]

if he has the same mathematical background as me then this is an unwinnable game

[Anonymous No.2476660]

I don't give a fuck, souls don't exist. I'd ignore the voices in my head and play some vidya.

[Anonymous No.2476667]

"Infinity minus 1, so it's as big as it can be without being infinity"

Satan's status:
[ ] not trolled
[X] trolled

[Anonymous No.2476692]

>>2476667
Infinity minus an infinitesimally small number. It's therefore not infinity (finite) but is still infinity.

checkmate

[Anonymous No.2476694]

10^((10^10^100) ! )

i win right

[Anonymous No.2476699]

I will take the ackerman function, call graham's number, divide the resulting graph into infinitesimally small sections using a limit, and my number will be the number of sectors.

This is arbitrarily large but finite.

[Anonymous No.2476704]

>you both pick a finite positive number, and whoever picks the larger one wins.

I pick a 3 the size of Venus.

[Anonymous No.2476705]

The only winning move is not to play. The conditions were never specified - to answer at all may constitute entering the challenge, which cannot be won.

I say nothing and back away slowly.

[Anonymous No.2476706]

>>2476692

That's still infinite, bro.

[Anonymous No.2476717]

>>2476699

Samefag here. This is assuming both contenders pick their numbers at once. If someone has to go first, obviously wait.

[Anonymous No.2476738]

Not play

[Anonymous No.2476764]

Let x be the number of decimal places trailing the real number pi. Suppose there exists an interval M where between <span class="math">(x_1,x_2)[/spoiler], a number n repeats itself N times. Let N be the number of primes less than x.

[Anonymous No.2476781]

aleph 0 minus one

[Anonymous No.2476799]

>>2476596
>The devil wants your soul

Stopped reading there.

[Anonymous No.2476810]

>>2476764
>>2476781

FINITE positive number. Aleph numbers and the number of primes less than digits of pi are infinite.

[Anonymous No.2476816]

>>2476810

It's as finite as you want it to be.

[ЯR !!qSRZhfCxFtq No.2476821]

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[Anonymous No.2476880]

(((((999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)!)!)!)!)

[Rainbow Dash !!pGgXu8jfKhv No.2476883]

>>2476596
I would trick him.

I would write as many nines down as fast as I could to fill the bottom row raise it by that many nines raise it again and then do that with every row. until time ran out.

On the back of my paper, it would be written, I was using base his number :D (so if I written 10 it would be a tie).

If that is cheating I would say I was using base my number instead of base 10, which would increase the size of my number astronomically.

[Anonymous No.2476891]

>>2476883
You can't say "base my number" if your number isn't defined yet. It's circular.

[aether !B.0X4iZ/uM No.2476896]

Draw a circle, put it in the centre.

[Anonymous No.2476898]

>>2476821

All he has to do is go second to beat your number. Suppose you have a mathematical argument that changes the rule of the game like:

Suppose you choose m and the devil chooses a number n where m,n < infinity. Then there exists a finite number k such that m*n < k. Since m and n are arbitrary, k cannot be less than infinity and we reach a contradiction such that m and n are infinite and finite.

[Rainbow Dash !!pGgXu8jfKhv No.2476902]

>>2476883
>>2476883
Or I should say I was using base my number writ in base googolplex.

[Anonymous No.2476914]

"The largest finite number expressable"
By definition the devil can't express a larger number, and in the event of a tie it's status quo ante ie I don't take his soul or vice versa.

[Rainbow Dash !!pGgXu8jfKhv No.2476922]

>>2476883
>>2476902
Nobody said I had to use base 10 mwhahahahahah

[Anonymous No.2476925]

>>2476596
is this before or after i wipe his cum off my face?

[Anonymous No.2476934]

A recursive function of n +1, n number of times, where n is the number the devil chooses.

[Alpharius No.2476943]

Really? The devil challenges me to a game of who can think of the higher number?

What do I have to win? What is stopping me from just saying no?

[Anonymous No.2476963]

(Yx9^999...=Y)
(1<Y)

What do I win?

[aether !B.0X4iZ/uM No.2476964]

http://lichess.org/0a4q_b72

chess, anyone?

[ЯR !!qSRZhfCxFtq No.2476989]

<div class="math">\frac{1}{\epsilon^\frac{1}{\epsilon^{\frac{1}{\epsilon^\frac{1}{\epsilon^{\frac{1}{\epsilon^\frac{1}
{\epsilon^{\frac{1}{\epsilon^\frac{1}{\epsilon^{\frac{1}{\epsilon^\frac{1}{\epsilon^{\frac{1}{\epsil
on^\frac{1}{\epsilon^{\frac{1}{\epsilon^\frac{1}{\epsilon^{}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}</div> where epsilon is arbitrarily small?

[Anonymous No.2477005]

>>2476963

You can just cancel out y.

[Anonymous No.2477008]

9x10^-999....=Y

Y=9^999...

[Anonymous No.2477026]

>>2477005
How?

[Anonymous No.2477033]

the devil already has my soul, I win!

[Anonymous No.2477250]

>>2476704

Made me lol

[Anonymous No.2477263]

<span class="math">\infty-1[/spoiler]

i win

[Anonymous No.2477286]

>>2477263
<div class="math">\infty-0.9</div>

[Anonymous No.2477301]

i think it depends on who picks first

[Anonymous No.2477309]

I tell the devil I'm not interested in making any wager with my soul, and I run to the nearest church and pray to Jesus to save my soul.

Devil get's kicked out. Safe for another day!

[Anonymous No.2477315]

<span class="math">\frac{1}{0}[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.2477324]

I would attempt to describe the size and girth of my penis.