/sci/ - Science & Math

[Leonidas No.2426135]

Someone called me a "deviant" because I said I was attracted to skinny girls (1 and 2 on the chart).

The reasoning behind this was that men are biologically supposed to like women who carry a bit of fat and have large boobs, dat ass and curves. This is because we're subconsciously supposed to look for a mate who can be a better bearer of children.

First question is, is that an instinct, or an environmental product? Because if it's the latter it doesn't make sense, I never even knew the shape of a woman made any difference to whether she could have children (it doesn't), and I'm not aware of any agendas that want people to believe this. Furthermore I was then told that women who were pale were found more attractive a century ago because it indicated they were of a higher class, like today in Africa larger women are more sought after. But why would you conclude that this all leads to wanting a better partner to have children with, and not just a partner who is richer or whatever? Some people don't even want children.

tl;dr are men supposed to like fat women because they subconsciously look for women who can carry children

~ Leonidas

[Leonidas No.2426155]

And here's a picture of a fat ugly woman who most people think is the pinnacle of beauty.

~ Leonidas

[Anonymous No.2426161]

Attraction is a blend of environmental and genetic factors. But basically as long as we reproduce with the best possible mate

[Anonymous No.2426162]

That's a very simplistic view. There's an enormous amount of environmental influence on the nitty gritty of our sexual preferences. It could be argued that you are attracted to these women because you believe that that is what a successful woman looks like and she will therefore be better able to take care of your kids.

[Anonymous No.2426163]

Hypothesis: A population of fat mammals will have a lower fecundity than that of regular mammals. This would be due mainly to heart disease.

Conclusion: there's nothing wrong with being "deviant".

[Anonymous No.2426179]

>>2426163

humans. you can't include whales in this hypothesis.

[Anonymous No.2426211]

Lucky for you I'm here.

Attractiveness pertaining to body fat is shown to have inverse proportion to the availability of food.

See, olden time, current day africa and other third world countries, and current day america for the example of the opposite end of the spectrum.

However, it is generally universal that a WHR of .7 is desirable and women have a higher body fat percentage because of breasts.

Personally, I find 1 abhorrent and 2 a wet dream.

tl;dr inverse proportion of availability of food and attractiveness to body weight

[Anonymous No.2426218]

Skinny chicks are pretty nasty.

I bet you got Yellow fever or something, cause most Asian chicks are fucking twigs with no ass.

[Leonidas No.2426220]

>>2426163

There is definitely nothing wrong, but I could turn the argument around by saying a skinny female will actually be a better mother because she has self control.

For me personally, skinny girls are more aesthetically beautiful. Fat is just gross.

~ Leonidas

[Anonymous No.2426233]

I'd fuck everything up to 11. Except 10.

Also, I fuck skinny guys, too.

[Anonymous No.2426234]

I feel for you, OP.

[Anonymous No.2426253]

>>2426211
wow i actually learnt something from sci, thanks.

[Anonymous No.2426264]

>>2426253

Yup, I'm some what of a dilettante when it comes to the scientific study of human aesthetics.

you could say I'm a caligynephile

[Anonymous No.2426265]

i think it's your perception of fertility and health. the definitions are changing. you like nasty emaciated women because you see that as a picture of modern health.

i like women with at most around 20% bodyfat and athletic muscle, because i see that as "healthy" and therefore sexy. thankfully my wife goes to pole dancing class.

[Anonymous No.2426277]

>>2426265
>my wife goes to pole dancing class.
Enjoy your STDs.

[Anonymous No.2426281]

Men go for fat chicks because that way there's no reason to be insecure or weirdly jealous of her male friends (who are more than likely faggots anyway). See?

[Anonymous No.2426299]

attractive = symmetrical, clear skin, young, firm

unattractive = probably you

[Anonymous No.2426308]

Alright I have a question about this.

How deviant is it honestly to really like girls that are more 1 or 2? Meaning.. How many people am I really competing with here?

Am I really such a minority that the women that I consider nigh impossible to talk to because they stun me are considered mediocre or even below the normal atypical attractive male?

From my experience it seems like most guys these days like skinny women. I guess that could be wrong. I just really don't want fat kids... Really.. Really don't want fat kids.

[Leonidas No.2426310]

>>2426299

I'm the guy in the middle, I can tick all four of those things you mentioned.

~ Leonidas

[Anonymous No.2426314]

>>2426155
See, you're not helping your cause by classifying Christina Hendricks as a "fat ugly woman". When you make a statement like that, you're shifting the focus from analytical, to confrontational. It puts people who finder her attractive, onto the defensive, and the best defense is a good offense. Hence, they will call you a deviant for being attracted to skinny girls.

Additionally: "I never even knew the shape of a woman made any difference to whether she could have children (it doesn't)" Of course body shape has a bearing on child birth. It's a simple case of whether the thing can get through her hips without killing her!

[Anonymous No.2426323]

If you're attracted to 1, you're either a teenager with lingering attractive to prepubescent girls, or you are definitely a deviant.

Is it just me or does "thin" have almost the same body as "voluptuous"?

The best body there is "thick"

[Anonymous No.2426324]

>>2426310
>in the middle
>guy

.....

[Anonymous No.2426325]

I'd fuck 2 and 4. That's it.

[Leonidas No.2426339]

>>2426314

I'm sorry I'm used to boards like /tv/ where 90% of the posters are retards/trolls, so I've developed that style that also makes me seem like a retard/troll.

~ Leonidas

[Anonymous No.2426344]

>>2426325

[Anonymous No.2426347]

>>2426310
god, i would dress you in panties and mouth rape the shit out of you

[Anonymous No.2426353]

1-9(9 is iffy), 11, 14-15

Most of them look like they'd really annoy me, though.

[Leonidas No.2426364]

I am obviously a gigantic faggot, and I love to take cocks up the butt.
Your argument is invalid

~Leonidas

[Anonymous No.2426366]

>>2426325
DSL for sure.

[Anonymous No.2426371]

>>2426310
So you're what, 14? Then no, you're not a deviant for being attracted to girls who look like they're 12. Attraction to the female form changes with age.

[Anonymous No.2426380]

>>2426366

digital subscriber line?

[/phil/ get No.2426387]

what about the role of domination in sex?
im just speculating here, but could a reason for attraction to skinny/young/short girls might be due in part to unconscious want to dominate a partner? and liking fat/tall/muscular woman be due to the want to be dominated

[Anonymous No.2426389]

3. isn't a hourglass, is she? Shouldn't a hourglass figure have bigger boobs?

[Anonymous No.2426396]

>>2426387
Fat girls are permanent partners until the man decides otherwise.

[Anonymous No.2426399]

this chart is pretty inaccurate.

[Anonymous No.2426405]

Someone called me a deviant for having sex with trees, when people have been doing it for millions of years. Their loss for not having a wet evergreen drooling sap all over their penis as they thrust in and out, they'll never feel the soft tickle of all-embracing moss as they plunge into an oak.

[Anonymous No.2426406]

>>2426339
Walks like a troll, talks like a troll...

[Anonymous No.2426408]

>>2426389

THANK YOU.

god this whole time I was like "the bitch is a pear... doesn't anybody know what a hourglass looks like"

plus this bitch's WHR is fucked up, it sure isn't .7, maybe like .4 or .5

[Anonymous No.2426412]

>>2426371
>Attraction to the female form changes with age.

True, when I was in my teens I liked older women. Now only little girls get my penis up.

[Anonymous No.2426420]

>>2426325
>4
I don't understand for the life of me the attraction to skinny girls with enormous tits. It's freakish.

I like 2, 3 (if she wasn't shooped), 8, 9, 11, 15

[Anonymous No.2426421]

>>2426371

actually, males of all ages usually select features that are characteristic of a woman of 24.8 years of age

[Anonymous No.2426423]

>>2426405
?

[Anonymous No.2426431]

Number 1 from here.....
>>2426135
AND
"Guy" in the middle from here...
>>2426310

SAMEFAG?

[Anonymous No.2426440]

>>2426420
4's tits are not freakishly large for her weight. Slightly abnormal, ok, but she's still appealing. Unfortunately the human brain thinks that women with bigger tits will provide more milk. Stupid irrational thing.

[Anonymous No.2426445]

>>2426420
It makes more sense when you remember the fact that you enjoy the comforting touch of other males.

[Anonymous No.2426456]

>>2426421
Not me. That would have been way too old for me when I was 20 or younger. I've never been attracted to women more than a year or 2 older than me. And I'm attracted to curvy women now. When I was a teenager I preferred the less womanly teenage body type.

[Anonymous No.2426461]

>>2426421
This is the age we are all supposed to die at.

[Anonymous No.2426471]

>>2426440
She's a little freakish, but she does have some ass. And I for one am not interested in the tits for their milk capabilities. I like the curves to flow together, hips to waist to tits. Women who look like a basketball attached to a tree are not attractive.

[Anonymous No.2426481]

>>2426440

PRODUCE MORE MILK?!?!?!?!

how about thirteen cups of rage....
Sure is uneducated guessing in here.

The draw to larger breast is as follows:

First of all the explanation for anything a male finds attractive is a sign of the ability to make a baby. The first and incredibly obvious requisite is to be female. Large breasts are NEVER naturally found on males. Additionally, the larger they are the better indicator of sagging which happens with age (very little sagging, young and ready to go!) Also, the main purpose of the breast is to act as a form of self mimicry displaying the buttocks. This is why the cleavage is so attractive, because boobs that do not form that cleavage do not in anyway resemble the butt.

lrn2evolutionarypsychology

[Anonymous No.2426494]

>>2426481
>lrn2evolutionarypsychology
More like lrn2believe bullshit made up explanations that are believed by the gullible with no evidence whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.2426501]

>>2426456

>features that are characteristic

this not talking about what age of women you prefer

[Anonymous No.2426511]

>>2426494

okay fred

[Anonymous No.2426513]

>>2426501
But still, I didn't prefer features characteristic to 25yo's when I was 15. I preferred the features characteristic of 15yo's.

[Anonymous No.2426527]

>>2426494

>implying it's not extensively studied and completely logically consistent

[Anonymous No.2426528]

My two ex-wives looked like 19. and 13. respectively. Yeah, I'm a tit-man.

[Anonymous No.2426578]

>>2426135
- Most people hate fat girls.
- And >>2426155 doesnt look like christina hendriks.If its really her(but I don't think so) , then she is very different with make up.And people admire chirstinas face, not her body.
- And people adore media people because of the hype.You see those "top 100 hostest women" ranking.All of them contain shitty women(compared with the really gorgeous women).Shakira, paris hilton and specially christina ricci(this one particularly makes me angry) are examples.
Almost every single women on /s/(mainly form you fall in love you lose threads), totally unknown women, are infinitely more beautiful that any of those women on top 100 list(with few exceptions, like kate beckinsale).
Unhappily most people are very supple.If the tv says someone is beautiful over and over, they end by agreeing.Or, if they admire someone for other thing than beauty, then end by thinking the person is pretty(Ie heard lots of people saying alanis morissete is hot).

tldr: Contrary to what you affirm, people dont like fat girls and girls you'e showd looks nothing like christina hendrik.you fail.

btw my favorite is 5.

[Leonidas No.2426591]

blanked all faces out, if you're gonna repost use this one, it's less biased

~ Leonidas

[Anonymous No.2426602]

>>2426591
By less biased you mean only face 7 is visible?

[Leonidas No.2426610]

>>2426578

it is her, look at her foot, she has a bunion. are you surprised celebrities look different without make up and in normal clothes. also i completely agree with everything you've said (apart from the bit about me failing ;_;), but i'm not talking about men liking celebrities in specific, i'm saying their idea body type is curvy and slightly chubby, like this (ignore the fact that she's famous).

~ Leonidas

[Anonymous No.2426612]

>>2426310
Leonidas you look like a damn woman.

[Anonymous No.2426618]

Stop signing your posts. You watched 300. You thought it was cool. WE GET IT.

AND WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH ALL THESE INVISIBLE CAPTCHA LETTERS

FUCK

[Anonymous No.2426630]

In the Hellenic times, fat women were looked upon as beautiful and much more "worth" than the skinny ones.

Just to add, 'sall.

[Leonidas No.2426632]

>>2426602

lol silly me i missed two out i'm not uploading another one though internet is too slow

>>2426618

my name has nothing to do with the film

and yes i've noticed these outlines captchas i thought they were all from the same text at first but it looks like a bug now

~ Leonidas

[Anonymous No.2426637]

Having a trip AND signing your own post.

Wow.

Just wow.

[Anonymous No.2426640]

>>2426630
In hellenic times they also had sex with children

[Anonymous No.2426643]

>>2426610
Its not only make up.This girls chin is much smaller that in all christina's photos Ive seen.And I dont know if its because of the makeup, but the lips look smaller too.

and I dont like chubby girls either, most men I know dont either.
Chubby is a fetish of few men.

[Anonymous No.2426664]

skinny girls like the one in the picture are disgusting. What about waist/hip ratio. You can't tell me you don't get a boner from tiny waist broad hip girls OP. They also have something the car industry is using subconsciously on men: curves.
A certain design our brains are wired to be attracted to. So yeah, if you pick the skinny chick out of those broads you're pretty much not normal or maybe just too young

[Anonymous No.2426668]

>>2426664
In OPs picture of course

[/phil/ get No.2426670]

why do i find ellen page in my #1 spot for celebrity hottness?

[Anonymous No.2426674]

id kill for 4 and 5

[Leonidas No.2426680]

>>2426664

in terms of design i like rectangles and straight lines DAT harmonious symmetry

also cars are for fags

~ Leonidas

[Anonymous No.2426683]

>>2426421

Can you provide a sauce for that?

>Men and women agree that attractive women have the large eyes and lips and small noses and chins of children. Attractive women's faces have the proportions of 11-to-14-year-old children

>Rhodes, G. Hickford, C., Jeffrey, L. Sex-typicality and attractiveness: ); Johnson, V.S., Franklin, M. "Is Beauty in the Eye of the Beholder?" Ethology and Sociobiology 14 (1993): 183-199.

[Anonymous No.2426692]

>>2426680
>fags
Funny coming from someone who would look good in a skirt...

[Leonidas No.2426693]

>>2426680

forgot my pic lols

>>2426670

YES she is soooooo cute

~ Leonidas

[Leonidas No.2426698]

IT was me all along!!

~Leonidas

[Leonidas !!LIY7D/8/TTU No.2426708]

I think some people in this thread are me so I'm going to put on a tripcode

~ Leonidas

[Leonidas !!/DIKejnYbH9 No.2426717]

>>2426708

Imposter!

I am the real Leonidas and THIS is my tripcode

[Anonymous No.2426720]

>>2426680
maybe your a fag

[Anonymous No.2426722]

>>2426683

yeah I got it from here, but actually I trust your sauce more so I renege my comment

http://www.viewzone.com/attractivenessx.html

[Anonymous No.2426723]

>>2426135
I'd fuck em all

[Leonidas No.2426727]

I changed my mind about using a tripcode, but I still stand behind the statement that I'm a huge faggot

~ Leonidas

[Leonidas !3OO1rGix.Q No.2426732]

>>2426708
>>2426717

nice try, this was my old tripcode

google for confirmation

~ Leonidas

[Leonidas !!JO01cNJqFnr No.2426733]

>>2426708
>>2426717

fuck. these guys aren't me.

~ Leonidas

[Anonymous No.2426755]

Personally I like Athletic and Thin best

[Leonidas !!UWkoms3OPk4 No.2426785]

My name is leonidas, and I'm a dumbfuck.

~ Leonidas

[Anonymous No.2426829]

1, 2, 5, 14, are the only worthwhile girls.

[Red fedora hat No.2426853]

Love every last one except for the entire bottom row.

[Anonymous No.2426888]

>>2426405

LMAO

[Anonymous No.2427083]

>>2426683
OOHHH thanks SO much.

This has always been obvious to me but I feared telling people for their hypocrisy.Know I can say "deal with science, bitch".

>>2426670

Because it looks like she has 13 years old.

[Anonymous No.2429036]

lol

[Anonymous No.2429167]

I'd ravage #4 and the body of #19.


>>2426387
Duh. Why do you think guys like short women so much? The hottest woman I've banged was this chubby prostitute who was marvelously short, cute face, and big ass tits. Kind of a #19 but black and a way better face. It was funny how much of her attractiveness was lent by her shortness even though.

Same reason why women like big tall men (sign of the ability to dominate others).

The nub is that we aren't making such calculations in our instinctual lusts. It's just that evolution has favored organisms and the offspring of organisms WITH SUCH LUSTS. Fat, big breasts/ass, and symmetry are usually LUXURIES OF ADEQUATE NUTRITION. If your lusts spurned such figures in the majority of our history, your offspring would have a lesser chance of surviving.

[Anonymous No.2429681]

I found all of them attractive except 21 but that had more to do with her frenching a dog then her body

[Anonymous No.2429710]

>>2429681

on second thought it was entirely to do with her body and the bestiality almost got her on the list too.

captcha: orily optimize

[Anonymous No.2429735]

Am i really the only one that like 3 the most? really? you all like 1 2 and 4 but not 3? what the fuck man

[Anonymous No.2429741]

>>2426664
thats bullshit i love the thin stomach to huge hips but my motorcycle is all sharp angles, not a curve on it

[Anonymous No.2429748]

>>2429681
It looked to me like she was tasting it.

[Anonymous No.2429763]

I like 9, 10, and 11 the best.

But I'm a chick so that might make a difference.

[Anonymous No.2429765]

>>2429763
er, I meant 8, 9, and 11.

[Anonymous No.2429768]

>>2429735

It seems like they found the widest hips possible rather then dem hips

I'm a face man myself so I can't entirely judge your taste.

[Implying No.2429771]

>>2426155
That fucking neck what I don't even

[Anonymous No.2429775]

>>2429765
Upon further review it seems I also would not mind 12, 15, and 17.

[Anonymous No.2429788]

Laziness and over indulgence is not attractive.

[Anonymous No.2429793]

DAT CHUBS!

[Anonymous No.2429823]

that gap between the legs of #3 is the greatest thing i've ever seen.

i just wanna stick my palm in there and lift her up with one arm, its so fantastic. also not hourglass at all, tits too small.

[Anonymous No.2429893]

the skinny girl is sick

[Anonymous No.2429920]

Bottom row Master Race here, you jelly?

[Anonymous No.2429992]

I'd fuck 2 and OP.

[Anonymous No.2430026]

>>2426310
it looks like you re all high

[Anonymous No.2430054]

I'd fuck them all, they're all fine. OP, you shouldn't care what other people think about your preferences. Go after whatever makes you happy. Even if you are sexually deviant, what does it matter? Hell we're all sexually deviant in some way.

[Anonymous No.2430056]

My preferences: very 1; very/okay 2,3,8; maybe 11,14; maybe maybe 15. (very - like a lot, okay - like it too, but less than previous; maybe - acceptable; maybe maybe - fine too, but maybe less).

This thread has a lot of rationalizing our preferences based on evolutionary guesses (I'm inclined to make a trollpun here, but I digress).

You may rationalize that we liked this and that since it has better chance of rearing children, but, I don't fully support this view. My view is that we evolved to be able to get common certain preferences, but this does not mean those preferences are good fitness now, just that they were good for fitness then.

I'm not even going to say we have such things hardwired into our brains as they are too generic and adaptable to actually allow such advanced coding (this may be possible for food or emotional responses, or how we react to certain chemicals in the air based on taste/smell, but that's actually understandable as it's easy to classify such behavior, while things like the shape of the female body are probably too complex to genetically program exactly).

[Anonymous No.2430057]

>>2426829
this buy knows how it is

however I'd also give 4 and 11 a go

[Anonymous No.2430058]

I'm not in the habit of turning down pussy. I expect a lot of men and a fair number of women are just like me.

[Anonymous No.2430063]

>>2430056
> continued
What I will say is that there is probably a very slight genetic component to it, mostly which triggers what we are likely to like in general (for example identification of fertile females, through olfactory mechanisms, however this is just a hypothesis, and I could be wrong about this), and such "liking" is likely to happen during puberty and later, which will form emotional memories which will result in us identifying some beings as attractive, while others less.

I know for a fact that my "likes"/"turn-ons" are most definitely not based on the capability of the female to have children, it mostly based on what I find aesthetically beautiful and nothing more. It doesn't even depend on the genetic gender (I could find a drawing of a female-looking trap attractive, however I wouldn't apply that to real life as real-life traps are easily identifiable as male in the majority of cases). I think a large of my likes/turn-ons are based on my crushes I've had during puberty (early emotional memories). I have a huge web of fetishes (likes/turn-ons, not the scientific term of paraphilia which means I can't live without them, which is not the case here), which are based on even more complex emotional memories, some which I can place, while others which I can't explicitly recall.

At the same time, I've seen such a large variety in human likes and dislikes in other people, that I really don't think a "normal" exists, nor that it matters what your likes/dislikes are as long as you're happy with them.

[Anonymous No.2430073]

>>2430063
> continued
The human mind is a complex web of interacting system dynamics and trying to rationalize irrational likes and dislikes through simple views like "you like x because this is a good child-rearing capability" is too simplistic, even if some of those rationalizations may have some half-truths in them as far as the long process of evolution goes. (However, I won't claim these evolutionary and genetic factors shape too much, given the variety shown in humans. I'd be willing to go that the majority of the points go to the environment here).

The point I'm trying to make in general is that likes/dislikes are mostly irrational and driven by environment, and while genetics may have a small component, it is hardly something that determines the specifics.