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Christian Scientist Thu Jan 20 04:07:51 2011 No.2380226 [Reply] [Original]

What can we do to save nature?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:08:51 2011 No.2380237 >implying nature is worth saving

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:08:51 2011 No.2380233 Clone more woolly mammoths?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:08:51 2011 No.2380239 Die or change. Shit's a lost cause.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:10:51 2011 No.2380245 >>2380237 >nature includes everything >nature includes you >implies you yourself are not worth saving I... agree with you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:12:51 2011 No.2380253 Aren't we part of nature? Wouldn't you say we, a sapient technological race that came about purely by luck over billions of years, are nature's greatest achievement?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:15:51 2011 No.2380267 >>2380245 r9k does not agree with YOU, so stfu. ^does not agree with me either. fuck!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:16:51 2011 No.2380274 >>2380245 it has been the opinion of many great minds that nature if left unchanged from it's current condition is not worth saving. it's rly not even questionable.

>>	Christian Scientist Thu Jan 20 04:17:51 2011 No.2380276 File: 52 KB, 300x350, 1295389276668.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2380253 heh... you're an absolute faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:18:51 2011 No.2380281 >>2380226 Step 1- kill yourself Aether.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:18:51 2011 No.2380282 >>2380276 I understand that you've taken a liking to me

Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:20:51 2011 No.2380287

>>2380274
>implying nature and humans are fundamentally seperate
How very Christian of you. We are matter, so is everything else.

Also, the "great minds" you are likely referring to are philosophers and philosophers from 100's of years ago, so their opinion means jack shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:21:51 2011 No.2380292 >>2380276 >christian scientist >tyler durden ur doing it wrong

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:24:51 2011 No.2380303 >>2380287 i'm referring to myself and they guy who posted it in the first place. and any other nihilist, and most creationists. nature sucked. god made his own shit. what was the first thing he said? "this doth not suck"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:28:51 2011 No.2380316 silly you. nature no need be salved. only a litle part of it. humans. they nee dlearn new tricks to adpat their behaviors to the new enviroment they created adapt or die.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:29:51 2011 No.2380317 > Christian Scientist >>2380226 > What can we do to save nature? Stop being Christian and start being a scientist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:29:51 2011 No.2380321 >>2380303 >Believes "god" personally handled the creation of life as we know it. laughinggirls.jpg

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:30:51 2011 No.2380322 >>2380303 Then the second thing he said is "Wait...wait......waait...this sucks" Gen 6:6

>>	Christian Scientist Thu Jan 20 04:32:51 2011 No.2380329 We should, and we can, change. Nature is the reason we're here, and is the reason we evolved. We need nature, simple.

Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:34:51 2011 No.2380333

>>2380321

i don't know what i believe bot lots of the people who read this either believe that god is real or that he is the character devised by great space faring immortal scientists to describe themselves and their country as a whole in a singular personified manner.

"let US create the heavens and the earth"

thus there was already a name for those 2 things, they had meaning to whoever he was talking to. here is the earth...let us create one cuz something keeps baking the flesh off our bones and emp blasting the energy from our circuits

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:34:51 2011 No.2380335 >>2380329 No, not really. We can control nature to get what we need. And preserve everything else in case we need it later on. What else does nature do other than serve our needs which is so valuable?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:35:51 2011 No.2380339 can anyone in this thread help me out with this question >>2380288

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:36:51 2011 No.2380341 what is more difficult; being happy or being smart? what is more valuable to you personally?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:36:51 2011 No.2380342 >>2380267 but r9k... DOES NOT EXIST

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:40:51 2011 No.2380347 >>2380342 WHY, THE FUCK, NOT?! they only deleted the thread about r9k bro. he lives on...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:41:51 2011 No.2380348 >>2380347 he had to post a thread about himself like several times daily and it got old i guess.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 04:43:51 2011 No.2380352 >become robots >destroy nature >humans only living creatures in universe foreveralone.jpg

>>	sage Thu Jan 20 04:51:51 2011 No.2380365 >>2380352 I for one, would welcome any chance to become transhuman.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 05:23:51 2011 No.2380415 File: 56 KB, 550x410, Hyperion.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] nukes, nukes everywhere

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 05:39:51 2011 No.2380440 >>2380226 >Christian Scientist Stop going to stupid wars with Muslims would be one thing....

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 05:48:51 2011 No.2380457 >>2380226 Build solar panels, windmills, and nukes on an incredibly massive scale.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 06:11:51 2011 No.2380482 >>2380352 >become robots >destroy nature >humans only living creatures in universe >get bored of virtual world >begin massive restoration of biospheres More likely than your thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 06:16:51 2011 No.2380489 File: 187 KB, 807x1200, hotel_042.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2380482 >robots begin massive restoration of biospheres And I think to myself, what a wonderful world... ; _ ;

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 06:19:51 2011 No.2380497 >>2380489 Well we need tissue samples of every living thing on earth in order to restore nature. Obtain tissue samples and preserving them could be, difficult...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 06:30:51 2011 No.2380520 File: 51 KB, 284x217, crying_like_a_motherfucker.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2380489 >that manga

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 06:35:51 2011 No.2380529 >>2380520 crying? They were successful in the end. What's there to be sad about?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 06:37:51 2011 No.2380534 >>2380497 >get the exact shape of every molecule at once in a 3d-image for every living thing, save into data banks >when we want to recreate everything, just put those molecules perfectly back in place and have life recreated

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 06:39:51 2011 No.2380541 >>2380529 But the hotel AI Louis died.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 06:39:51 2011 No.2380542 >>2380534 That's a lot harder than it looks... We don't have the technology to do such a thing currently. Best hope is a bunch of tissue samples

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 06:41:51 2011 No.2380544 >>2380542 True, but at the moment we don't have the technology to create robotic humanoids inwhich we can dump our brains into.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 06:43:51 2011 No.2380550 >>2380544 Ok, but if you want to recreate nature, you need to be able to have the technology to preserve it before it gets destroyed, which is well, now.

>>	Christian Scientist Thu Jan 20 09:21:51 2011 No.2380878 Please open your right eye when replying to this thread. >>2380335

>>	Christian Scientist Thu Jan 20 09:27:51 2011 No.2380885 Becoming robots takes time, time requires nature. So that's the end of that ignorant pipe dream.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 09:29:51 2011 No.2380889 >>2380550 Well, there are already some projects along those lines. Naturally with meager funding, like anything that might save the future.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 09:35:51 2011 No.2380906 >>2380457 This guy. We improve solar power particularly, or we just cull the place at a very slow speed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 09:35:51 2011 No.2380908 I've never felt the urge to visit physical violence unto another being, untill i read this thread.

Christian Scientist Thu Jan 20 09:42:51 2011 No.2380925
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It's simple, don't be greedy and don't pollute the air too much. Give and take, don't just take, that's looking at the world with one eye closed. Nature is the reservoir of the human spirit, without it we are as good as dead.

You people seem to think that being a robot is a cool life, but robots break, and robots don't come back - they're not eternal. They also take time to build, we are no where near building the technology that you're thinking of, and we won't get to that stage for hundreds of years, and we don't have enough nature to make it hundreds of years; especially when we take more than we give. There should be geologists making sure that the whole ecosystem and nature is well kept, that animals are comfortable in the wild, and that there is enough untouched 'resource' that stays untouched. You cannot claim that all nature is resource, because some of it is required relative - i.e. we need it. The tree is worth more than the gold. The tree is worth more than the oil. The tree is worth more than the humans. The tree of life is the most valuable thing in the universe. We need to even out 'the tree' and 'a tree'.

The tree = the untouched bulk nature of many 'trees', 'plants', etc.

A tree = the resource we use to collect wood and other things.

Not all trees are 'a tree', half of them, rationally, account towards 'the tree'. Kill yourself if you don't live by that code.

>>	Christian Scientist Thu Jan 20 09:49:51 2011 No.2380942 And this is the truth from someone who observes the world with both eyes open.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 20 10:33:51 2011 No.2381066 Nature will fix itself. It's us who are going to die ffs.

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