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ITT: You realize that the difference between rotating black holes and static black holes is that one of them is currently being used as a medium for data storage.

>> No.2340249

Implying both of them exist.

>> No.2340257
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2340257

What the fuck is a naked singularity? How can a singularity exist without an event horizon?

>> No.2340266

>>2340241
Okay, alright. If it's being used for data storage, then who's storing data?

>> No.2340325

>>2340266
Assume, for a moment, that Human Beings are not the most advanced civilization in the Galaxy. Assume, for a moment, that another species has successfully transcended the threshold between biological and digital intelligence. Assume, for a moment, that such a state of being allows an indefinite lifetime, and allows for a constantly expanding database of knowledge. Assume, for a moment, that said database, essentially being the soul of the civilization, reaches a point of complexity where it can find a way around its natural 3 dimensional limitations and experience time in two dimensions instead of one. Assume, for a second, that by transcending or single-dimensional understanding of time and accessing the paralleled causalities that surround our very being, the hypothetical civilization would need to store it's data somewhere reliable, somewhere safe, that exists in every timeframe from the moment of the galaxy's birth to its ultimate demise. Where would you store it? In a star? Stars certainly have a lot of power, but when your database encompasses a decent portion of the universe, the power of a star becomes chump change. No, you need something far more powerful, far longer lasting. You need something that crushes an huge amount of data into the smallest place possible. You need something that persists throughout every reality you can move in, that being every reality where the contemporary laws of physics exist. And what do you call something that crushes everything into a single point? What do you call something that can compress a near infinite amount of information into an imperceptibly small space?

>> No.2340345

>>2340325
None of that makes any kind of sense.

>> No.2340383

>>2340325
A vagina.

>> No.2340424

>>2340257
There are at least one way for them to form and one possible way for them to form. Could be more, but too sleepy to check.
1. A lumpy flat nebula collapses into a black hole so that the singularity forms at the disc but also as a spindle through the disk and this spindle could then stick out of the event horizon before collapsing.
2. A decaying massive black hole might lose the event horizon before losing the singularity.

>> No.2340482

>>2340325
That's all well and good, but how exactly do you get information out of a black hole (a thing, which you'll know, unless you're retarded, light can't even escape from)?

>> No.2340584

>>2340241
having fun with your quantum intanglment?

>> No.2340587

>>2340482
two intangled photons. find the photon and read it that is intangled with the one in the black hole.

>> No.2340614

>>2340587
Entangled. I will PUNCH YOU.

>> No.2340617

>>2340325
So basically you're saying...

God exists?

Checkmate, atheists.

>> No.2340619

>>2340587
But then you're going to need an incredibly large amount of external matter to read the opposite, entangled matter inside a black hole. Thus negating the need for black hole storage in the first place.

>> No.2340622

OH SHIT!

Quick, which kind of Black Hole is the one that's at the center of our galacy?!

>> No.2340628

>>2340617
No.

No, that is not at all what I'm saying.

>> No.2340632

>>2340628
but it is what i am saying.

>> No.2340634

>>2340619
retard thats what the stars are for....

>> No.2340635

>>2340325
I call that UniverseZip. Damn good hardware. I'll be sure to patent that when technology gets there.

>> No.2340637

>>2340635
i will steal ideas off 4chan and claim them as my own.

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>>2340637
>implying it was your idea

>> No.2340656

>>2340643
>>2340241
hurdurrr thats the point tldr retard.

>> No.2340709

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIGH I don't even know what TI'DR is even is even more!!!!

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>>2340709
Do you even know what is more like?

>> No.2340767

>>2340257
>>2340424
what the fuck is an event horizon? oh you must mean its Schwarzschild radius.

>> No.2340813

>>2340767
How can you learn enough to know the term "schwarzschild radius", and not know what an event horizon is?

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>>2340617
i think (s)he is saying that not only does god exist, but (s)he is one crafty fucking computer virus.

>> No.2340908

>>2340813

He's being one of those assheads who goes, "inches and gallons? Never heard of that system, but it sounds like a backwater thing that only AMERIKKKANS would use"

Schwarzschild radius is the proper term, though.

>> No.2340924

>>2340908
Wrong. Learn your shit. The Schwarzschild radius is a term applicable to Schwarzschild black holes, which are idealized things that don't exist in the real world. The event horizon is a term applicable to all black holes, even ones that don't approximate the Schwarzschild solution (such as rotating or charged black holes).

>> No.2340942

>>2340908
Wrong, idiot. The guy above me explained why. Not only are the event horizons of charged black holes not at the schwartzschild radius, and the event horizons of spinning black holes not even spheres, but if you have a massive body orbiting a black hole, which is probably extremely common, the event horizon isn't regular or symmetrical at all.

>> No.2341014

>>2340325
Your scenario is less likely that any sort of unknown intelligence.

People often think that an unlikely thing + a reason why that unlikely thing is true is more likely than just that unlikely thing, even though probabilities always multiply. Its more likely that all human life ends than all human life ends due to north korea launching nuclear missiles.