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2288618 No.2288618 [Reply] [Original]

Let's get a chiropractic hate thread up in this bitch.

Chiropractic is a pseudo-science based on vitalism, a sort of religion of the spine. D.D. Palmer compared himself to Jesus when he created his philosophy of adjusting spines. The "vertebral subluxations" of the spine he envisioned do not exist and do not contribute to any known disease.

Chiropractors adjust patients who do not need treatment and X-ray patients unnecessarily. They often oppose public health measures such as vaccination and water fluoridation. Many engage in unethical advertising practices to build business. They downplay the risk of stroke involved in manipulating the cervical spine.

These quacks have no place in the world of scientific medicine.

Source: http://www.chirobase.org

>> No.2288662

God damn, you people prefer misogyny and troll threads to this. Fuck you, /sci/.

>> No.2288667
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>>2288618
Q.
If chiropractition is psuedo science how do I into keeping my back healthy or bending it back to shape, I thought thats all those people did, Like having your friend crack your back but with science.

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>>2288662
Just because people think we're inferior doesn't automatically mean they hate us.

>> No.2288673

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>> No.2288675

>>2288618

>> vitalism, a sort of religion of the spine.

That's not what vitalism means.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalism

>> No.2288678

>>2288618
>These quacks have no place in the world of scientific medicine.

If cutting up peoples heads and shoving electrodes into their heads to "treat them" much like hitler treated the jews is medicine then this is medicine too!

>> No.2288684

yeah

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>> No.2288707

>>2288667
Spinal adjustment is not necessary for good health. Many chiropractors' claims are not scientifically valid.

http://www.chirobase.org/05RB/CPSQ/02.html

>> No.2288727

is this real life

>> No.2288733

>>2288727
is this just faggotry?

>> No.2288746

>>2288707
it is if you have a bad back, dipshit

>> No.2288752

>>2288746
Conditions such as herniated discs and osteoporosis are actually contraindications of a need for chiropractic treatment. Manipulating injured or weak spines can cause partial paralysis.

>> No.2288782

>>2288752
and yet many people with back problems find that they feel better after getting an adjustment.

>> No.2288798

>>2288782
http://www.chirobase.org/01General/01General/placebo.html

>> No.2288803

>>2288798
>time to pull out the trump card that cannot be disproven or falsified

>> No.2288809

Some chiropractors also performs Chakra alignment therapies. Seems legit.

>> No.2288814

>blah blah blah a medical science ragefest against any medicine that isn't synthetic.

How typical.

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>>2288814
bleeding your anus to balance you humors wont help.

>> No.2288834

chiropractors: just expensive masseuses

>> No.2288838

>>2288825
That's not what I meant, I meant that before synthetic medicine, there was a vast array of natural treatments that doctors studied, aspirin from pine needles, for example, that worked! And these types of medicines worked and had been used in practice in many cultures (native and foreign). While many and probably most didn't work, there were some that did, and while I'm not saying that all synthetic medicine is bad, I'm saying there's stuff left behind that people don't study anymore. That's all. There should never be prejudice in science, ever. Make your mind up with scientific conclusions, not academic dogma.

We've lost the human element of medicine and it's now sadistic and sterile. This needs to change.

>> No.2288840

>>2288834
and they don't even give handjobs like the good expensive masseuses

>> No.2288885

I know a chiropractor who, after years of experience, has concluded that all the adjustments and other chiro stuff is bullshit. Really, he's now a physiotherapist who puts the word "chiropractor" on his business because it brings in more people. He gets really pissed off at people who say that cracking spines fixes anything.

>> No.2288893

>>2288838 aspirin from pine needles

It came from willow bark. And you a romantic moron.

The 'natural remedies' have been tested. The ones that are actually effective become what you call 'synthetic medicine'.

If you want to argue for the case of Chiropractic, let's see some evidence that isn't based on anecdotes.

>> No.2288897

>>2288838
>We've lost the human element of medicine
Good, machines are more precise.
>and it's now sadistic and sterile.
Sadistic, no. Sterile, yes. Who would want to be in a dirty clinic?

>> No.2288911

>>2288893
Came from spirea.

>> No.2288924

my chiropractor saved the lives of my wife and son. Wife was pregnant, had a headache, went to see the chiropractor.

he suspects preeclampsia, checks her blood pressure, and drives her to the hospital. Calls me on the way, and I meet them just in time to see my wife flown out on a helicopter for treatment in a bigger hospital.

He may prey on the gullible, though if it works for people I see it as beneficial. He undoubtedly cares about his patients though, and is aware enough to recognize when there's a serious problem. For that alone I happily pay for my wife's visits to his office.

>> No.2288925

>>2288803

Trump card that explains your shitty few anecdotal cases while allowing for science and proper statistical analysis to determine whether treatment is ACTUALLY effective or not.

>> No.2288926

here's my experience with a chiropractor:

-experiencing back pain fro close to one year.
-told doctor about he she didn't really recommend me anything (didnt really even comment on it at all)
-figure what the hell, if this bitch wont help me i'll try a chiropractor
-go to chiropracotor, he dicks me around for like 5 vists, doesnt fix shit
-tells me i need a xray before he can help me anymore (needed to make sure it was something he could actually fix? lol)
-leave and never come back
-still have back pain.

oh well, im only 21, hopefully itw ill go away eventually

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>>2288746
>back gave out
>friend suggests I see a chiropractor
>don't
>hit the gym
>decade later
>haven't had a problem since
>friend still has regular adjustments

>> No.2289011

>>2288926
Exercise will fix that buddy. Reverse crunches, etc. Google exercises for strengthening lower back.

>> No.2289022

>>2288926
work out, recieve god-tier, indestructable back...until you hit your 30's

>> No.2289058

next drug industry ad gets reported

>> No.2289108

>>2289022
not that easy

it occured from deadlifting.

prior to this injury i was repping close to 405. one day i decided to just do like a million reps at 315 and since then it fells like ihave muscle pain everytime i flex my back.

weird shit ;/