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2225141 No.2225141 [Reply] [Original]

Everyone on earth is killed except for the people who have been on 4chan in the last 24 hours.

You get the choice to kill yourself, or you get 10 minutes and then you're teleported to a subtropical island populated by the other people of the board you frequent most often with the objects on your person (what you are wearing and holding).

The other boards are alive and on different places of the archipelago. So, naturally, the populace depends on the continents.

The Earth's atmosphere is no longer fucked up, and all the resources on the Earth have been restored to record levels. Long-extinct plants and animals live once more, although the island would have a limited large predator population.

Moot is dead, and we don't have means of communicating with other islands. The boards with <20 people are randomly distributed amongst the bigger boards.

What does /sci/ do?

>> No.2225157

stay the fuck away from /b island

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2225164

>What does /sci/ do?
>with the objects on your person (what you are wearing and holding).

Oh thank God I get to carry my kindle.

>> No.2225165

First things first.
I'll find whatever remains of the Statue of Liberty, fall on my knees and shout "We finally really did it. You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! Damn you all to hell!"

Then I can start my experiments to produce penisillin.

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>Long-extinct plants and animals live once more

I start experimenting with LASER weaponry and attach my deadly inventions to some goddamned raptors. I also give these raptors bazookas, to make them even more bad ass. Then I set out to get rid of /b/ and /new/, which ultimately results in an era of peace and prosperity.

Pic related: It's a motherfuckin' raptor with a bazooka.

>> No.2225172

stress out over whether I'm going to /b/ or /sci/. Wish I would've spent more time one /wg/

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>>2225141
Find the PhysicsGuy

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2225191

I'm ending up on an island full of racists and idiots to found the Brave /new/ World.

>> No.2225192

I grab my rulebooks. Gonna be needing them on /tg/ island

>> No.2225193

well... /sci/ island it would be, with a bunch of smartfags prosperity would be easy.. just destroy /b/ for the goal

>> No.2225208

>Be pissed off because none of my useful shit is in my student flat.
>Grab all data storage devices and laptop - figure out how to power them when I'm with /sci/ducks.
>Pack calculator, lighter and chess board.
>Beat the shit out of Aether.

Everything goes better than expected.

>> No.2225209

assert dominance over the freaks of /d/. Dress the fem posters as girls and rape them.

>> No.2225218

Time exactly how long it takes for /x/ to tear itself apart on first nightfall.

>> No.2225219

>>2225209
>find DiabolicDwarf (futaspammer extrordinaire)
>Shove all my dildos into his eye sockets and gut him
>find Aether
>Tie him to DD's corpse with anal beads
>light them both on fire, masturbate as they burn

>> No.2225224

Grab a compass, a radio, and enough shit to build a boat so I can get the fuck off of /r9k/ island as soon as possible. That shit's funny to read, but I'd kill myself in a day having to live with them. Hopefully one of the other islands would take me in.

>> No.2225228

Im having trouble deciding if /d/ island would be one of the worst places on the planet or one of the best... Either way, Id have my calculator on me (hopefully), my 75 feet of magnesium wire (for all special occasions) and, as always my amphetamine prescription (hilariously enough, its 30mg a day, so on a 31 day month my prescription is for slightly OVER 9000 MG!!!!)

>> No.2225230

>>2225219
fap fap fap

>> No.2225237

Die of massive trauma as my body incarnates in about sixty pieces.

>> No.2225241

How far are these islands apart? It would only be a matter of time before /b/ got their shit together and went raiding other boards.

Except with lynchings and rape rather than pictures of tractors.

Might have to make an alliance with /k/.

>> No.2225252

>>2225241
Who run bartertown?

>> No.2225262

>>2225241
>alliance with /k/
No.

Just fucking no.

Unless you want a new USA with undertones of a survivalist's wet dream thrown in.

>> No.2225285

>>2225252
>>2225262
So robots defending us instead?

I'm not so sure /b/ will maintain any connection with anything resembling morality.

>> No.2225286

>>2225241
>alliance with /k/

FUCK NO, WE'LL DESTROY THEM WITH OUR PLASMA RIFLES AND TESLA CANNONS

>> No.2225311

>Long-extinct plants and animals live once more
Oh fuck the dinosaurs will kill us all

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2225318

>steal weather balloon
>steal helium
>steal iPhone from now-dead hipster
>drive to Dick Smith quickly and steal a solar panel charger kit
>when on island attach iPhone to weather balloon, send it up recording, when it drops down again view recording and judge where nearest large recognizable landmass is
>(Attempt) to assemble /sci/ to work together to build a fully fledged ship
>Sail to land mass
>find city
>we recreate working civilization in the name of science
>LONG LIVE THE UNIVERSITY

>> No.2225328

>>2225318
10 minutes to steal a weather balloon?!

Is there nothing you cannot do?

>> No.2225334

>>2225318
Somebody on /sci/ is bound to have a good enough idea of constellations to navigate to land.

>> No.2225335

Fuck i am stuck on /a/ island. Actually thats not so bad.

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>>2225328
There's this guy a couple of streets down that makes them. And there is this 14 y/o neighbour that brags about his iPhone all the fucking time.

>> No.2225340

alliance with /g/
developing new technologies together

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>>2225334
A difference of a few hundred kilometers is hardly noticeable with constellations. It would be quite hard pinpointing our position.

>> No.2225353

Get the fuck together with /k/.

>> No.2225360

>>2225340
/g/ only knows about the number of housefires that Fermi causes and how terrible LOONIX is.

>> No.2225363

>>2225340
We'd probably both build shortwave radios contact each other and triangulate on each other.

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>>2225353
I would strongly advise against this, as they have guns, we do not, and they have an aggressive mentality so we would most likely become their bitch.

>> No.2225382

What would happen on /b/ island?

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>>2225382

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>>2225141
1) Find Josef and PhysicsGuy

2) Throw Aether into the ocean as shark bait

3) PROFITTTTT

>> No.2225400

I'd end up in /mu/ island.

Those faggots, I knew that island before it was popular. I'd have to outhipster them to death

>> No.2225408

>>2225388
lulz

>> No.2225440

I think I would first pack a collection of maps I have lying around, then print out a "how to survive in the wilderness" guide and other various supplies; lighters, batteries, steel wool.
I think the only reasonable alliance we could for would be between /g/. I assume /sci/s numbers are kinda low

>> No.2225451

I kill myself. Seriously, I'd rather die than live with you sick fucks.

>> No.2225453

>>2225141
>Everyone on earth is killed except for the people who have been on 4chan in the last 24 hours
That instantly erradicates any girls with a glorious ass on Earth... An Hero.

>> No.2225454

The last time we did this and /k/ got involved, we ended up as tnuctipun under their thrint.

>> No.2225468

>>2225440
There'd be a fair few of us, I'm thinking upwards of 60 as a rough guess.

/tg/ and /lit/ would be allies. /fit/ I'm not so sure about. /x/ would be entertaining but on the whole useless. Avoid /k/ and /new/ like the plague.

/an/ would be nice to have on board but I doubt they would have the 20 required to get an island.

/a/, /r9k/ and /adv/ would degenerate into petty squabbles as they realise how useless they really are.

Don't know how the non-worksafe boards would pan out. Probably just do their own thing.

/b/ I have no idea. Either crumble or unify, hopefully the former.

>> No.2225470

I guess I'd be with /tg/. Well that could be worse.

>> No.2225495

>>2225468
have you seen /lit/ they're useless. /tg/ why?
/an/ are a bunch of queers. If anything we need to find a board with the most females.

>> No.2225504

Get gun, get ammo, get as many tools together as humanly possible. Bring knife, compass, and flint.
Use force of personality to try and get into any large groups. Chill out with /tg/ in the meantime.

>> No.2225518

>>2225468
/b/ isn't that bad. They'd spend most of their times comparing their penises and yelling nigger.

>> No.2225522

>>2225495
Logical. Though many people on /sci/ also frequent /tg/ and /lit/ as well. Might find some /sci/ducks on those islands. /an/ I just regard as a safe board with some reasonably knowledgeable people, also likely to have a higher than average female population.

>> No.2225526

>>2225495
My friend, /tg/ is full of people who have planned for this VERY event. Not to mention that /tg/ has far more people than /sci/ does.

>> No.2225544

>>2225341
A watch a compass the current date and watching the sun rise/set will let us know how far north/south we are. That will give us a very good clue as to what set of island we inhabit.

If I could request that everyone brings magnets? They are the most useful thing that would be hard to reproduce.

>> No.2225572

>>2225544
Three kilograms of neodymium-magnets coming right up. I have a habit of dismantling broken hard drives.

>> No.2225594

>>2225572
Excellent, I was going to grab a screw driver kit and a stack of harddrives myself. I just wish I had a spool of copper handy, looks like I need to do some mining before we can rebuild Electricty. Oh wait I have a 100' spool of audio cable. Just need to remove the plastic.

I hope someone has a laptop with many reference books. Might take a few weeks to juice it, but will surely come in handy. And with a battery backup we can atleast use it periodically If needed.

>> No.2225612

>>2225495
/adv/, biatch
Well, most likely, anyways.

>> No.2225620

>>2225594
Magnetman here. I'm... actually sitting on a 1600' spool of Cat6 cable. I also have an external hd with (among other things)books on just about everything right here on thetable. Also a laptop with a broken hd within reach and a stack of maybe-possibly-working 2.5" hd's, also a stack of cd's and dvd's with OS's from DrDos to Win7, bsd to ubuntu.

Also a metal toolcart with several tools and a 20kg pile of different batteries. And a night-vision binoc.

Also some .22 pistol ammo that I reloaded for someone, though not the gun itself.

>> No.2225625

> Everyone on earth is killed except for the people who have been on 4chan in the last 24 hours.
I an hero. No question, no hesitation, no need to consider anything else. The Dorito cheese smell of Fa/tg/uyland would drive me insane. Also, everyone would want to be the paladin, and everyone would want to be the little girl.

If I had the choice, it'd be /po/ for me. Lots of women, relatively normal people. It could actually be nice.

>> No.2225626

>wearing nothing but underwear

fapfapfapfap

>> No.2225646

>>2225620
You are well set. As long as there are enough people who can food, we can science.

I could do the fooding if need be, but do not think I would be efficient enough to help support community and increase tech base. I have a case of army food and a couple 3600 calorie bars I bought as a joke a few years ago. I'll bring those so we may survive the first few weeks.

>> No.2225650

>>2225594

Sitting on a MacBookPro with Windows 7 running on parallels - Maple14 for mathematics and graphing, Photoshop CS5, Celestia, Medical encyclopedias and 2 years of latest journals, Encyclopedia Britannica and Microsoft office 2011 :D - Laptop runs 2.5 hrs easy on a full charge!

Swiss Army SwissChamp and Mp3 player are coming with me too :\

>> No.2225652

Actually /k/ got a lot better after the mod and the creation of /new/.

And there is a quite large portion of gun owners on /k/, that being said I don't know if I should go to either /tg/ or /k/ since I spend most of my time on those two.

Plus I don't think most of the other boards have members that actually can hunt and go inna woods for two + weeks without dieing in the process.

>> No.2225653

>>2225625

Watch as no one from that board actually knows how to make paper.

>> No.2225664
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2225664

I would end up on /sci most likely. Tho I wish I could go to /jp island. I would bring a bag of weed seeds to grow and other narcotics to grow. If I'm going to spend time with you anal people I'm going to have to be high ALL THE TIEM!

>> No.2225671

>>2225653
That is good for us. We can trade paper for extra food.

>> No.2225677

>>2225653
I know how to make paper. I learned that in 3rd grade.

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>>2225646
Well I also have a 50kg sack of potatoes somewhere here, which can be made to sprout and then planted. Also some seeds for habanero, cucumber, tomato, red peppers, strawberries and others.

Also a few books about mushrooms, though only about the varietes seen in Finland.

I can also build some traps for wildlife.

Never did get the hang about building a fire, though the batteries and other tools will help with that.

Probably better grab some tarps and a bolt of tent-cloth.

Yes, I have all this either in this room or the storage-cellar a few meters away.

>> No.2225715

Can we get rid of the social construct of rape is wrong?

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2225716

>>2225141
>trapped on island with engineers

I will be in heaven

>> No.2225720

I put the the corner of the outside of my house in my coat pocket, so my home cones with me

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>>2225671
>>2225677
Also, once we get established, we might be able to trade them paper in return for books that they come up with

>> No.2225727

I could either end up on /a/, where we could write some manga together.
/new/, where we could build a magnificent unicultural civilisation together
or /sci/, where I could listen to the math and physics majors talk all day.

>> No.2225735

>>2225699
Hooray potatos. Will make paper making easy. Also grow well many places and easy to cook.

Also useful for water filtration system. And in a pinch can be used for Electricty generation. Has uses in first aid and waterproofing buildings.

The potato truly is an important contribution to our new society.

>> No.2225736

I frequent /k/ most, I own a gun though.

I'm still fucked, everyone would kill eachother right away becuase I see it coming. I would swim to /an/ then.

>> No.2225789

bitches be on /ck/, of course.

>> No.2225803
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2225803

simple plan to assure /sci/ dominance:

* organize societal hierarchy based on hunting/gathering, always stay in groups to avoid deaths/injuries, small council of brightest people on /sci/ to plan things as a tribal oligarchy

* engineers of /sci/ start building houses, then fortifications+boobytrapped areas of the island (nothing deadly)

* build a few rafts and send out the most worthless members to explore, after teaching them the stars so they can make their way back

* message to /k/: 'want an alliance? we can promise you finished weapons.' we could have messengers from each meet to see if the respective leaders can hash something out

* find /g/, steal actual /g/urus

* steal girls from other islands by promising food, then putting them in a worker caste, where they will be protected as long as they work just like everyone else (also no non-consensual polygamy you niggers)

* take full advantage of materials on island; possibly develop outposts for rare raw materials (mining will be a bitch, for instance, but if resources are high, metals should be easy to find near the surface)

* normal engineers should keep building infrastructure and transportation, electrical engineers should be working with /g/urus on basic computers

* by now, crops should be planted, and most members should be expected to spend 2 or 3 hours a day working on them (excluding the council, people that are very good at hunting/gathering, artisans, and head-engineers, etc.)

* i'll be your Aristotle. hiya :3

>> No.2225807

well, I would end on /b/...I'll be coming for you bitches

Also, /sci/ island would be populated mostly by high schoolers with assburgers, so don't get your hopes up on some kind of technological advancement

>> No.2225836

>>2225803
My only comment would be that the oligarchies only power should be the assignment of tasks.

No judging no ruling no making of laws. Simply distributing tasks to others. Identify the just and have them judge identify the knowledgable and have them manage. Identify the good cooks and have them cook etc.

>> No.2225842

/b/ would lord of the flies it up, then china zerg the other islands

>> No.2225848

>>2225803
>mfw you think that /sci/ would be better at weapon construction than /k/
>mfw you think you're going to make computers from scratch.
>mfw you think you're going to be able to domesticate plants
>mfw /sci/ dies out first because of highest levels of delusion.

>> No.2225852

/sci/ should forge an alliance with /fit/. Brains AND brawn.
/b/ would be easily defeated, seeing as 90% of the population would be under 15, and incapable of caring for themselves. Crumble within a week.
The camwhores of /b/ would then travel to either /fit/ or /fa/, which /sci/ has cleverly forged an alliance with, taking the girls after they tire of douches.

>> No.2225853

>>2225836
You won't be able to create an oligarchy without deadly force or at least deadly threats. If all you want is assignment of tasks, self-assignment works best anyway. People generally like doing the things they are best at.

>> No.2225866

>>2225848
Oh for shit's sake.
>domesticate plants

>> No.2225873

>>2225141
>Boards with less than 20 people
Are you high?

>> No.2225878

>>2225866
wat?

>> No.2225881

>mfw /sci/ is the last island to manage fire.

>> No.2225886

>>2225853
I disagree. There are many people who are willing to follow those they respect. And those that will follow the general consensus. Certainly the majority of time would be one's own. But let us say a copper vein was located. Those that need copper might not be able to extract it, so a draft of able bodied workers to mine x amount of hours a week would be needed. The same with communications with other islands or sanitation details. I doubt anyone wants to dig latrines.

A few people mandating the best for the society would help improve things quicker.

>> No.2225891

>>2225881
I have a lighter in my pocket
>>2225873
I think he might be referring to some of the text boards

>> No.2225899

>>2225878
We already have people bringing in seeds for some crops.

Also, 'domesticating' plants ain't all that hard. Me and my sisters used to spread a certain flower around. The reason was that you could suck the nectar out of the flower buds.

Also, current food-crops were of course developed from natural species, some of which have a nearly global spread.

>> No.2225915

>>2225886
So you think I'm going to mine your copper? (implying there are copper veins on tropical islands) Fuck you and fuck the oligarchy. I'm going fishing.

>> No.2225933

>>2225899
Not all plants have been domesticated. There's a reason it took our species 200,000 years to start doing it. What edible native plants do think you're going to find on a tropical island. Maybe some fruit trees. Fruit trees are fucking hard to domesticate. It takes knowledge. Maybe there are some tubers? How would you go about domesticating a tuber?

>> No.2225937

>>2225915
Enjoy your fishing. Please do not return to the communal housing this evening. I'm sure you will be able to erect your own shelter before the next rain.

>> No.2225946

I would either be on /sci/ or /new/
So on one hand, enough intelligent people to basically plan out a nice society that would be self sufficient. (/sci/)

On the other, economic and social paradise for a few years before it falls apart from inner trauma. (/new/)

For sake of discussion I will assume I end up on /sci/.

I think our biggest immediate problem would be /b/tards deciding that they should use their superior numbers to take down other boards, lets set up a diplomacy with /k/, and /r9k/.
/k/ will defend us in return for food (we can plan out how much cows eat, how fast they eat ect. and mass produce food)
/r9k/ will just be our sweet little bitch :3

>> No.2225951

>open gun safe
>pack several handguns, two hunting rifles, one semi-auto and one AK, along with a shitload of ammunition
>Rule delusional assburgers of /sci/ with an iron fist until they can be annexed to the United States of /k/ proper.

>> No.2225959

>>2225937
Oh, I will certainly return to the communal housing. Everyone gets fish except those trying to pass themselves off as the oligarchs and doing no work.

>> No.2225966

>>2225933
Just ignore the other parts of my post, will you.

We can somewhat easily test the fruits and plants for edibility and the propagate the edible species either from seeds or cuts. It's really not that hard. Basic agriculture.

>> No.2225969

>>2225951
You will need to find someone you trust to watch your back during the time of sleeping.

>> No.2225974

>>2225946
wait, wat? where did these cows come from?

>> No.2225980

>>2225951
>die very painfully of a toxin that is tasteless

>> No.2225993

>>2225969
Exactly as I said, you need violence to set up an oligarchy. And btw, I just everyone fish. The oligarchs just gave them orders. I'll sleep better than the oligarchs. Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown.

>> No.2226002

>>2225886
Although I agree with you, I would never take a permanent job as a miner/worker.
Collectivism is the key.
As for making food, we will need more people to work than just those that enjoy cooking, lets copy the assembly line style food preparation created by McDonalds.

Now obviously we can't make computers from scratch, I propose we get together our mathematicians to plan out the most renewable way of mass production.

>> No.2226003

>>2225959
There are 3 problems with that statement
1 you are certain you will catch fish
2 you imply that the oligarchy does no work
3 you imply that those leading are not doing so by the mandate of the people.

I do not believe the people would so quickly welcome you back over a few fish, when the other fishermen did their community service for the week.

>> No.2226004

>>2225933
I think you totally missed the part where people said they would be bringing seeds and potatoes.

>> No.2226006

>>2225951
This is true. Face it, we will be doing the manual labor for /k/. None of our scientific knowledge will be relevant to anything. Some halfwit who's watched 10 episodes of Man vs. Wild will have more relevant knowledge than us.

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All of these plans of oligarchy and shit would need to wait until a couple weeks in. The first priority is survival. Upon arriving, /sci/ should stockpile their belongings and then break into small bands for the purpose of finding resources and survival necessities.

>> No.2226014

>>2226004
You have 10 minutes to grab something. Who can grab crop seeds in 10 minutes?

>> No.2226020

I say everyone does a stint of everything, with rotating duties every week. Enough time to pick up the skills, not enough time to grow bored of a job.

And a planning council. But they do their share of the work. No one just sits on their ass, making others jealous.

>> No.2226022

>>2225974
See
>>2225141
>The Earth's atmosphere is no longer fucked up, and all the resources on the Earth have been restored to record levels. Long-extinct plants and animals live once more, although the island would have a limited large predator population.

I lived on a farm for most of my child hood, cows (and Im assuming other docile meet animals) are easy to train/domesticate just fence them up and give them food.

We would then fence of different sectors and lead the cows in a rotation through them. (giving the other sectors time to re-grow edible plants).

>> No.2226025

>>2226002
Maybe 4-10 hours a week of mandated community work. More or less depending on the project. Also I feel the benefit of rotating jobs allows everyone to become knowledgable in multiple fields, so if our blacksmith dies, someone can still make nails.

Certainly too a persons likes would be considered in job placement. Happy people work harder, skilled people work better. But come harvest time the farmer will need a few extra hands picking crops. And we really need to get more latrines dug.

>> No.2226027

>>2226003
That's not how people work. They don't just form a mandate to let other people tell them what to do. They will respect those who do the most work for the community. People may allow themselves to be subjugated by a majority vote of the whole, but they're not going to let themselves be subjugated to the whims of an individual or or oligarch without putting up a fight. I certainly wouldn't, unless I was in the oligarchy.

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>>2226008
Sweet zombie jesus .. let this be a shoop.

>> No.2226031

>>2226014
Me, the magnetman. Like you would have seen IF YOU'D READ THE WHOLE TOPIC.

>> No.2226033

you anarchistfags are annoying as fuck

give an example where anarchy has resulted in a society that can easily defend itself and prosper

oligarchy is the best organizational strategy; my knowledge of Greek city states is much more relevant to the proposed situation than pretty much everything

thus I said I would volunteer to be Aristotle; not a leader, but an adviser

also, stop pretending you would be able to be selfishfags; if you're a European, your ancestors didn't have that fucking attitude. You can only be selfish because of the monsters of capitalism and democracy, neither one of which would be at all feasible.

>> No.2226039

>>2226022
But you're on a subtropical island. Cows don't live there. And you only transport what you're holding, and I don't think you can hold many cows.

>> No.2226040

>>2226027 They will respect those who do the most work for the community

And if superman a says "bob we need you to help with some mining. I think the iron will really make next years harvesting easier" would you not say "sure I'll put in a few hours"

Then superman b will suggest to some other guy that he should go help dig a latrine for sanitary purposes.

Etc etc.

>> No.2226043

>>2226039
Then there are possibly pigs, guinea pigs, kiwis, emus or others.

Since it's an island, the chances are the larger animals don't have much of survival instincts. Depending on the size of the island.

>> No.2226046

>>2226025
This sounds like a good idea, however after we have set up rules and job rotations I believe we should abolish all forms of a cast system, that way no one can come along and change the rules, thus collapsing our society.

>> No.2226049

>>2226008
Weeks months even. People need time to prove themselves as good hardworking intelligent people.

>> No.2226052

>>2226033
There are no anarchists here. The only group dynamic that is going to work is going to be consensus and democracy. That's the only thing that westerners will submit to.

>> No.2226058

>>2226033
>oligarchy is the best organizational strategy; my knowledge of Greek city states is much more relevant to the proposed situation than pretty much everything
coz the greek states were all oligarchies. onoez!

>thus I said I would volunteer to be Aristotle; not a leader, but an adviser
you assume anyone would listen to your irritating, whiney clap-trap. This doesn't even address the problem that you also admit you wouldn't want to take any responsibility for what happened if they DID take any notice.
invalids like you go to the front of the turn-into-productive-protein queue.
although the whole anarchist argument is equally invalid so at least you'll have company.

>> No.2226066

People who have it in their heads that they are going to be leaders or oligarchs, will be the first to be eaten, mark my words.

>> No.2226074

>>2226033
Oligarchs tend to monopolize ressources for their own comfort or out of the delusion that they'll use them better. A tight control has to be imposed, which itself is time consuming, and at that point it's more of a republic, with the limits it shown in rome and athens.

An horizontal, informal network, with specialized nodes, would be more efficient.

>> No.2226075

>>2226033
Greek city states were based on warfighting capability and a slave workforce. This is what will happen, but /k/ will have all the weapons, and the rest will be their slaves, digging their latrines and planting their crops.

>> No.2226077

>>2226052
Anarchy works on consensus and direct democracy.

>> No.2226090

>>2226075
We can only hope they'll bring less ammunition than there is people on /b/.

>> No.2226105

>>2226075
And we'll have all the poisons. And a lot of other silent ways to kill murderous buffoons.

>> No.2226123

>>2226105
Hm ... they can kill a lot of us before they need to drink our island's waters.

>> No.2226136

>>2226123
Oh they don't need to drink anything.

>> No.2226148

So what will people bring that they can grab in 10 minutes? I'll grab my survival knife, my water-pouch backpack thing, filled with water, my firestarting flint, some cordage, and my smaller plastic kayak (which I can carry on my back) and paddle. Unfortunately I have no fishing hooks or line in the house, but I'll grab a metal coat hanger, which I can maybe sharpen on a rock and fashion into a fish hook, and use strands of my cordage for line.

>> No.2226152

Remember, /sci/'s most applicable skill is math and logic, we wont be making computers or weapons anytime soon, so how can we utilize our skills?

/k/ will of course be the god chan, so we need to join forces as soon as possible, what can we offer them?

Also we cant assume that any of the plants will be recognizable, how should we get volunteers to test new food sources on?

These are some questions we must ask ourselves.

>> No.2226155

I'll bring my iphone so I can let everyone on fb know whatsup.

I also have a constellation ap, and a compass, so it'll be good in teaching people celestial navigation

And then I'll bring a knife and start making longbows.

>> No.2226179

>>2226148
I can get a knife, my laptop, some food, and netting for fishing.

I also have a month of intense wilderness survival training under my belt.

Remember, grab food above all else, it will give us more time to get our act together and plan out the best maneuvers.

>> No.2226185

not sure whether i'd be on /r9k/ island or /d/, or which i'd prefer. But i'd have my lighter, and most importantly my bong with me that magically becomes self refilling. I'd have a nice time fishing and smokin weed an building a hut etc. And if i got desperate im sure it would be easy to use sex to get anything i want from peoples of either island anyway.

>> No.2226189

The preservation of knowledge is key. There should always be someone with a laptop, a solar or crank charger, and an external hard drive containing all of wikipedia and as much additional information as possible.

Obviously, ten minutes is not enough to acquire these things unless they've been pre-placed. So start downloading.

>> No.2226190

>Also we cant assume that any of the plants will be recognizable, how should we get volunteers to test new food sources on?

Test the food by rubbing it on your skin. In some* cases this will cause a rash, which will give you a pretty good sign that you shouldn't eat it.

But since this is a faulty strategy the best course of action is to just observe what the other animals are eating. Set up cameras, or just observe directly. If mice, rodents, or primates can eat it, good bet it's safe
Hunting is always safe; poisonous animals have their poisons generally localized on glands which excrete onto the skin. Pro-tip: don't eat their skin.
As for water; boil it over a stove. The earth's been restored which means there's no more synthetic pollutants in whatever water source we have. Filter and boil to kill pathogens and we're cruisin.

>> No.2226193

>>2226152
/k/ is a problem. If I kayak over there with a proposal, they'll just shoot me and take my kayak. Okay, /sci/, our mission is to build an atomic bomb using coconuts.

>> No.2226205

>>2226179
Fresh water will be a more immediate problem than food... unless someone thought to bring a distillery. I thought I would use my kayak to start circling the island until I found where a stream comes out of it.

>> No.2226213

>>2226205
No problem, if someone can get a fire going we can boil the water, we can also use our clothing+dirt as a filter.

>> No.2226221

>>2226213
>filter
also activated charcoal

>> No.2226223

>>2226213
Boiling and filtering doesn't change salt water into fresh water.

>> No.2226230

>>2226148
A few knives, a lighter, shoes and clothes, my guitar (music is important, and the metal strings can be useful), then I'll go to the kitchen, I'll take a bag, put sugar, potatoes, limes and oranges, apples, olives, rice (I don't know if the one I eat can be cultivated, but if not that's still food), and chili pepper fruits inside, then to the shed in the garden, the axe, a lot of saws, strings and ropes, nails, hammers, and my bottles of chlorhydric acid, aceton and hydrogen peroxyd, and that jar of sodium chlorate.
I think that's all I can hold.

>> No.2226231

>>2226223
simple steam distillation

>> No.2226242

/sci/=orangutans
/fit/=gorillas
/k/=chimpanzees
To follow the "Planet of the Apes" model, that is.

>> No.2226243

hmm, I'd be with /r9k/.

Initially, it'd be fucking terrible, as all the misogynists and neckbeards squabble with the fairly large number of normalfags and women...

But if it anyone survived and got all that shit out of the way, I think it'd do alright.

/r9k/ is made up of some pretty smart, mostly decent people.

>> No.2226249

>>2226223
1. Boil water
2. Condense steam
3. Enjoy fresh water

>> No.2226262

>>2226193
We only have to make coconut liquor. Then give it to them, and wait until they kill exha other.

>> No.2226263

>>2226243
No worries: All the shitheads and bitter lonely misogynists would die pretty quickly.

If the shock of being around women didnt' kill them right away, they'd flee from everyone and starve to death in some hidden hole on the island.

>> No.2226273

why build an atomic bomb from coconuts?

1 make alcohol
2 give to other tribes for free
3 wait til they're all raging alcoholics
4 PLAY WITH OUR BITCHES

>> No.2226280

>>2226231
That's what I'm saying, to do distillation you need some supplies, like tubing, and a pressure vessel to connect it to.

>> No.2226296

I wonder if I can uproot a part of the big bamboo bush in my garden...

>> No.2226322

>>2226249
...I suspect troll physics, but why wouldn't this work?
The shit that makes salt water salty should boil at a higher temperature than water, so this should leave you with pure H2o, right?

>> No.2226324

>>2226280
The sad part is how you don't even understand how wrong you are.

At the simplest level all we need is a cool cave or even a stone outcropping. We build a pool under the outcropping and clean it, then boil water in a pot next to the wall. Steam condenses on the stone and trickles down to the pool.

Have you people no knowledge of history at all?

This design can be further improved simply by adding small slabs of rock over the pot.

Or if someone(me) brings some tarp and/or plastic bags, we can build sand stills without even the need for a fire, simply using what heat the sun puts out.

>> No.2226328

>>2226280
No, Im fairly sure I could build a simple still out of pots and pans...

>> No.2226341

>>2226090
You're all forgetting all the sociopaths on /b/ who will immediately grab their guns and knives. Pound for pound, a lot of people on /k/ spend more time on /b/ and will be on /b/ island too.

Basically what I'm saying is, /b/ probably has at least five times more people than any other board, and will probably be full of people with knives and guns, if they know where they're headed.

>> No.2226348

/k/ is probably filled with rednecks and should be eliminated, not allied with.

How should we go about this, /sci/? sabotage their waters? Pox blankets? Can anyone get access to Something like cholerae or anything?

>> No.2226356

we need to grab the homebrewmen from /ck/ and get them to brew us some beer and ale. We can trade that for anything.

>> No.2226361

>>2226341
I think we'll be safe. Even our advanced ancestors took several thousand years to invent boats. We'll be on our way to the stars when /b/ manages to hollow out their first log.

>> No.2226370

>>2226348
We can relatively easily produce anthrax spores. But I'd suggest producing it only after we have gotten our penicillin production well in hand.

>> No.2226373

>>2226361
I don't think /b/ is capable of forming co-operative society.
They'll never hollow out a log.

>> No.2226374

>>2226341
Anyone would bring knives.

>> No.2226382

>>2226322
>The shit that makes salt water salty

You mean salt?

>should boil at a higher temperature than water

...yes. Salt boils at a higher temperature than water.

>so this should leave you with pure H2o, right?

Totally.

>> No.2226383

>>2226324
>>2226322
Yeah, this is just basic common sense.
I don't understand why people are protesting.

>> No.2226387

>>2226373
>>2226361
You underestimate /b/. They're mostly bored teenagers, not sociopaths.

>> No.2226388

>>2226373
I know, but I wanted to think of the worst-case scenario.

>> No.2226391

>>2226341
>>2226374
I would break into a gun store if it's during daylight hours, then cover myself in weapons and ammunition along with anything else remotely useful. Also canned food.

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>>2226348
no we should ally with /k/ because if we try to sabotage them they would fuck us up with their guns. Honestly allying with the most dangerous board should be our course of action.

>> No.2226393

>>2226373
I think they'd hollow out a log. But only for copulation. Then the log would always be possessed and used by the stronger males.

Then the rest will whine about "bitches and whores" again.

>> No.2226397

>>2226324
Sun stills don't produce enough for even one person, let alone however many there will be. And a fucking cave? Are you kidding me? It will be easier to find a fucking stream than a fucking cave.

>> No.2226402

>>2226382
>You mean salt?
Well, there's other stuff in ocean water besides sodium chloride.

>> No.2226403

>>2226387
Bored teenagers with a possible wealth of experiences compared to other boards from simple sheer magnitude of numbers. They'd probably just steamroll every other board. It would be just like when they raid other boards on 4chan.

Our only hope would be reverse trolling their armada.

>> No.2226407

>>2226392
Why do you think /k/ would be a trustable, or even possible ally ?

>> No.2226415

>>2226393
Ah, of course, you're right.

>> No.2226421

>>2226407
/tg/ is our only good bet. With their breadth of white knights we would be safe.

>> No.2226431

>>2226403
I don't know. They probably would steamroll /ck/ for the booze and /k/ because they can, but most of the other boards would be safe from large-scale invasions.

>> No.2226433

>>2226407
i don't think they're are stable or trustable but as long as we get on their good side, we should stay relatively safe while they start conquering other islands

>> No.2226434

>>2226407
/k/ and /v/ are lovers, last time I checked, and /v/ will ally with us because we'll be the only ones with tech.

>> No.2226445

>>2226431
/ck/ butchers and eats roadkill, I suspect they'll be alright.

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>>2226397
By the beard of Ukko the Allfather.
A stream is not a given. Sunstills can be made arbitrarily large and their basic structure can also be refined.

I also hope you didn't think we'd build just one sunstill?

Also, I suggest you research a bit into ancient stone stills BEFORE YOU MAKE WITH THE IDIOCY AGAIN.
>FACE --> TABLE
>FACE --> TABLE
>FACE --> TABLE
>FACE --> TABLE
>FACE --> TABLE

Please, people, tell me I'm being trolled here?

No one in /sci/ can be as dense as that guy, right?

>> No.2226453

>>2226446
People are always stupid.

>> No.2226456

The more people you have the harder it is to have a functional society. /b/ island will be ravaged with civil war for the next several generations. If we want to become athens and subjugate the other small islands, we need the firearms from /k/. Producing alcohol might be the best way to form that alliance.

>> No.2226467 [DELETED] 

>>2226462
shit wrong tab, IGNORE.

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2226462

Hi /sci/, I quite like reading “Hard Sci-fi” books, by the likes of Arthur C. Clarke, Stephan Baxter and the like. Do you have any suggestions on any other hard sci-fi authors I should read?

>> No.2226469

we all go extinct because there are no women in this board

>> No.2226471

>>2226431

At least for the short term. But I support the idea that we engineer either very large catapults or primitive cannons so that we can knock down massive boats should they come close. I don't want to get raided by a pile of gun-toting /k/tards, or over 9000 /b/tards.

And wtf water is not an issue. Groundwater, rain water, river water... there's lots of options for obtaining water

>> No.2226472

Wikipedia, on the subject of consumption of seawater:

Results may be different if the water is ingested anally rather than orally, since the likelihood of sodium being absorbed into the bloodstream differs between the small and large intestines, while water can be absorbed into the bloodstream from either intestine.[citation needed]

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>>2226456
Sure. Let's ask drun/k/ards to give us their weapons.

>> No.2226477

>>2226467
you can delete posts, you know.

>> No.2226478

>>2226446
0/10
fuck off

>> No.2226489

Grab survival bag, fire starting kit, and knives. Also grab DS & PSP with solar charger, and survival guide. Rule over /co/ as undisputed ruler, cementing my rule by executing Prince of Equestria. I then focus on creating weapons, shelter, and growing food. I also order the construction of a few ships to figure out just where exactly we are. If not too far from a continent, we move back, taking control of an abandoned town that has a power plant. Get that back up and running, and also raid a library for better books. We eventually need to find coal, and organize a mining operation. Also, build walls around the town in order to keep most predators out, and station guards in case of a T-Rex attack.

>> No.2226495

>>2226456
No. /b/ will most likely see famines, epidemics and angry mobs, but not war.

>> No.2226492

>>2226471
Don't forget to mention SIMPLE DESALINATION BY BOILING SEAWATER AND COLLECTING THE EVAPORATE

>> No.2226494

>>2226471
You have to FIND the fucking river before you can drink it. That's the whole point. Depending on the size of the island, rivers can be hard to come by, and ground water even more so. Depending on the the tropical island, there may be very little rain outside the monsoon season.

>> No.2226497

>>2226478
5/10
Explain why it won't work, then.