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2210405 No.2210405 [Reply] [Original]

overpopulation
eco domes on the moon?
why not?
If this is a dumb question i'm not a troll...just not very scientifically minded. Just a thought i had and no one ever answered me

>> No.2210417

The moon is mostly slag, the asteroid belt has all of the things life needs in far greater quantities, but if you don't wanna become a trans-human mars is fine too.

>> No.2210416
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2210416

Overpopulation is less that the Earth is running out of land for humans to live and more that the resources we produce are not enough to sustain the world population. However widespread use of the best technology possibly available at the time can make this a non-issue. As for large-scale settlements on the moon, they are currently unfeasible and downright astronomically expensive (no pun intended.)
Another cheaper, more long term solution would be to terraform Mars and/or Venus.

>> No.2210423

>>2210416

You know I have done the math and you will need a lot more nukes than that to provide any measurable degree of deceleration to Phobos, and a shitload more if you want the deorbiting to last longer than a split second, to deorbit entirely.

tl;dr it's not even worth it.

>> No.2210424

>>2210416
ok sweet thank you. Another question though; what would
be involved in terraforming a planet? thought that was all fiction

>> No.2210425

>>2210424
haha nevermind. Just read pic :P

>> No.2210431
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2210431

This is the only acceptable solution. Continue our merger with technology, and survive into the farthest reaches of eternity and space time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLMn3_SzBiU

>> No.2210436

>>2210431

It'd be more awesome if we continued to eternity while looking the same as now, merging with technology means weakness and lack of self control.

>> No.2210448

>>2210436
Enjoy eating vacuum meatbag, but there isn't a choice, we will never into eternity with out evolving.

>> No.2210449

>>2210431
how does it feel being a high school fag who watches way too much anime, and has no friends? Feel good?

>> No.2210457

>>2210431
oh come on now... we all know you are a trans-fan because your dream is to become a the little girl

you may come out of the closet now boy

>> No.2210458
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>>2210423
I would greatly appreciate alternatives to nukes. However I am not against detonating thousands of them. It will be a lightshow humanity will not forget.
>>2210424
>what would be involved in terraforming a planet? thought that was all fiction
It depends what planet/moon you wish to terraform. It is still n the realm f science fiction but there's nothing in physics preventing you from turning potential candidates into Earth-like worlds. All that s needed is the technology and technical expertise. Oh, and a plan of course.
Let's take Venus for instance. Completely inhospitable, what with its 90x Earth pressures and 475'C carbon dioxide/sulphuric acid atmosphere. No magnetic field. A day that's longer than it's year doesn't help either. However it has a similar size to the Earth and its gravity. What you need to do is lower the temperature, remove or sequester most of it's atmosphere, speed up the rotation and add radiation protection from the far closer sun.
To do this you could send icy comets from the Kuiper Belt careening in a fairly precise path to Venus. This will cover it with the needed water. To remove the atmosphere and to possibly speed up it's rotation a little you should collide the comets incredibly fast toward the spinning side. (as shown)
This will be tedious and take a lot of time. Calculations for the comets need to be very precise or one may be sent back on a collision course with Earth. At the same time a photovoltaic generating tinted/radiation-protecting thin shield should be constructed in the direction of the sun. I could go on but yeah.

>> No.2210464

>>2210457
>>2210449
Why you mad though?

>> No.2210472

>>2210458

>I would greatly appreciate alternatives to nukes. However I am not against detonating thousands of them. It will be a lightshow humanity will not forget.

Unless you can haul literally millions of high-power nukes, refine the Uranium or Plutonium to feed them and do all that in less than a century, there are no other better ways of deorbiting Phobos.

Unless you strap a few fusion cages and sit and wait for a few hundreds of years/geological instants.

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>>2210472
I highly doubt millions are required.

>> No.2210493

Problem: Too many people competing for common resources
Your Solution: Move people to where there are no resources to compete for

>> No.2210513

>>2210475

Three million nukes each providing three meganewtons of thrust would provide a total deceleration of five meters per second, pushing against 3554 Amun. Phobos is nine orders of magnitude more massive.

>> No.2210516

>>2210416
>>As for large-scale settlements on the moon, they are currently unfeasible and downright astronomically expensive
What makes lunar settlement unfeasible and expensive?

Also I'm against terraforming Mars, terraforming Mars could destroy any life that is currently living on Mars.

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>>2210513
Welp if what you're saying is true then that plan is fucked.
Now I need to wait for antimatter bombs.

>> No.2210574

>>2210516
Who gives a cunt about that? We've no positive evidence whatsoever, and if we ever find life there it would be bacterial contaminants from Earth.

>> No.2210580

>>2210405
>i'm not a troll..
more likely an orc or a draenei, rait?

>> No.2210586

>>2210516
Any microbial life currently living on Mars has pretty much no chance of evolving into a higher organism. It will flourish for a brief period when the sun begins to go through its red giant phase, and then the moment will pass, and Mars will also be a charred cinder of a world.

>> No.2210625

>>2210586
>>Any microbial life currently living on Mars has pretty much no chance of evolving into a higher organism.
Yeah, and some people used to think rockets were impossible. Also what's a higher lifeform?


Also you haven't answered my question about why Lunar settlement is infeasible.