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A science professor begins his school year with a lecture to the students, "Let me explain the problem science has with religion." The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.

"You're a Christian, aren't you, son?"

"Yes sir," the student says.

"So you believe in God?"

"Absolutely."

"Is God good?"

"Sure! God's good."

"Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?"

"Yes."

"Are you good or evil?"

"The Bible says I'm evil."

The professor grins knowingly. "Aha! The Bible!" He considers for a moment. "Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?"

"Yes sir, I would."

"So you're good...!"

"I wouldn't say that."

"But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't."

The student does not answer, so the professor continues. "He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?"

The student remains silent.

>> No.2207989

The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question. "Who created them?" There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. "Tell me," he continues onto another student. "Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?"

The student's voice betrays him and cracks. "Yes, professor, I do."

The old man stops pacing. "Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?"

"No sir. I've never seen Him."

"Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?"

"No, sir, I have not."

"Have y ou ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?"

"No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."

"Yet you still believe in him?"

"Yes."

"According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?"

"Nothing," the student replies. "I only have my faith."

"Yes, faith," the professor repeats. "And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith."

The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own. "Professor, is there such thing as heat?"

"Yes," the professor replies. "There's heat."

"And is there such a thing as cold?"

"Yes, son, there's cold too."

"No sir, there isn't."

The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. "You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees."

>> No.2207990

old copy pasta
student was einstein

>> No.2207985

"No, you can't, can you?" the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.

"Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?"

"Er...yes," the student says.

"Is Satan good?"

The student doesn't hesitate on this one. "No."

"Then where does Satan come from?"

The student falters. "From God"

"That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?"

"Yes, sir."

"Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?"

"Yes."

"So who created evil?" The professor continued, "If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil."

Again, the student has no answer. "Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?"

The student squirms on his feet. "Yes."

"So who created them?"

>> No.2207991

"Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it."

Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.

"What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?"

"Yes," the prof essor replies without hesitation. "What is night if it isn't darkness?"

"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word."

"In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?"

The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. "So what point are you making, young man?"

"Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed."

The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. "Flawed? Can you explain how?"

"You are working on the premise of duality," the student explains. "You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought."

"It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it."

>> No.2207992

"Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?"

"If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do."

"Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"

The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.

"Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?"

The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.

>> No.2207993

OH MY GOD READ THE FIRST LETTER OF EVERY LINE

>> No.2207996

"To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean."

The student looks around the room. "Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?" The class breaks out into laughter.

"Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir."

"So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?"

Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable.

Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. "I guess you'll have to take them on faith."

"Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life," the student continues. "Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?"

Now uncertain, the professor responds, "Of course, there is. We see it everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil."

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."

The professor sat down.

copypasta from; http://www.naturallygoji.co.za/faith%20vs%20science.htm

gg atheists.

>> No.2207998

>>2207989
The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own. "Professor, is there such thing as heat?"
>"And is there such a thing as cold?"
>"Yes, son, there's cold too."

Professor confirmed for retard

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2208000

This entire, unoriginal, moronic thread.

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2208002

This is horrible, seriously, I'm not even mad. U mad tho? U mad.

>> No.2208003

And then the Marine punches him in the face and says, "God was too busy saving the Soldiers in Iraq, so he sent me."

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2208007

Cheer up, /sci/ I've got some Chick Tracts rewritten as the opposite of what he intended!

>> No.2208009

inb4
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>> No.2208010

I love the "science professor" term. It's as specific as "religion guy".

>> No.2208014

>One day a Christ-fag said, "I'm too stupid to communicate ideas, so instead I'll tell a boring story and then act pretentious about it."
That day was today.

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>>2208007

>> No.2208015

>Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work

Copy pasta troll yes, but I can't help pointing out things that are just outright wrong.

>> No.2208019

>A science professor begins his school year with a lecture to the students, "Let me explain the problem science has with religion." The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.
>science professor
>atheist professor of philosophy
OP fucked up first two sentences. Good one, OP.

>> No.2208027

>>2208019
social science is science

derp

>> No.2208028

This doesn't work because we have seen evolution at work, and we can use machines to see the professor's brain.

>> No.2208040

herpderp

>> No.2208052

I like how people put Scientist with Atheist all the time. NOT THE SAME, YOU FAGS.

>> No.2208072

darkness is the absence of light, yes.
cold is the absence of heat, yes.
this doesn't magically make evil the absence of god.

first of all, we know heat and light exist, as we can feel or see them, and they can be measured. as pointed out in the previous lines, god cannot be classified under any of the senses.

you're also trying to say that evil isn't just something we label. if a dog kills a cat, we call it nature. whereas if i were to go out into the street and kill an animal weaker than myself, people would classify me as 'evil'.

what also annoys me is when people refer to animals as if we aren't an animal ourselves.

>> No.2208078

>"And is there such a thing as cold?"
>"Yes, son, there's cold too."
>"No sir, there isn't."
If this conversation actually took place (I'm guessing it didn't), the professor would officially be a retard. Evil is the opposite of good but heat and cold are not opposites. Heat is term for thermal energy. Cold is the opposite of hot, not heat. Mercury is hot compared to Earth, but cold compared to the sun.
I've never heard anyone say "Stalin was evil compared to god, but killing all those people was a pretty nice thing compared to the devil."

The theistic religions like to portrait morality - good and evil - as absolutes. This is not the case with hot and cold. The analogy (and the entire conversation) is a pathetic attempt at rationalizing inconsistencies in Christianity.

>> No.2208080

>"science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?"
>"Nothing," the student replies. "I only have my faith."
>To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."
So evil is the absence of that which does not exist? Well isn't that a conundrum.

>> No.2208101

>>2208027
This makes sense. The professor had no fucking idea that there was no such thing as cold.

>> No.2208115

Einstein was himself the first one to clarify that he didn't mean god in the sense of an omnipotent creator, it was simply the word denoting the concept of things beyond his ken.

>> No.2208206

You guys are replying some angry shit, but i liked it.

>> No.2208577

im calling an epic combo on this thread