/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.2192921]

Dealing with radiation on Mars:

What if we put a nickel-iron asteroid, put it on stationary orbit and transform it on a big magnet to create a small magnetosphere? We could add a electromagnet powered by solar energy if needed...

So, how feasible this would be?

[Anonymous No.2192928]

And then we would microwave the power back to Earth which could give us infinite power for everybody!

[Anonymous No.2192930]

That orbit won't stay stationary without constant energy input.

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.2192943]

>>2192930

Magsail statite.

[Anonymous No.2192940]

As the asteroid passed through the generator, it would lose momentum. And when that happens it would slowly spiral down to the planet and BAM.
Unless you attach tiny rockets to the asteroid to make sure its momentum is maintained.

Then what the fuck is the point.

[Anonymous No.2192968]

Here is a poorly made drawing to make thing clearer

[Anonymous No.2192978]

>>2192930
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areostationary_orbit

[Anonymous No.2192995]

>>2192921
yeah man! let's spend billions of dollars on this!

or we could just put a nice roof over the fucking colony

[Anonymous No.2192998]

>>2192921
Or we just build habitats underground. For fuck's sake, you don't pound a nail into a piece of wood with a gold plated jack hammer when a hammer is right next to you.

[Anonymous No.2193003]

Why would this be necessary or practical?

[Anonymous No.2193021]

That's retarded. Mars is full of iron everywhere. Why the fuck would you try to move an asteroid to put more iron on mars? If you can create an electromagnet, just do it on mars.

[Anonymous No.2193051]

terraforming is retarded.
If we can't even reverse the relatively small damage we've done to our own environment, what the hell makes anybody think that it'll feasible to adapt another planet to our needs?

HurrDurr, we've altered our atmosphere by less than 1% dooming the earth, instead of trying to reverse the damage it would be easier to travel to another planet and alter ITS environment.

Quit masturbating to the scifi channel

[Anonymous No.2193052]

>>2193021
Move an asteroid that already is in space wouldn't take that much energy, just choose one close to Mars.

[Anonymous No.2193070]

>>2193051
thats it guys, conversation is over.

[Anonymous No.2193080]

>>2193051
Who said anything about terraforming?

[Anonymous No.2193082]

>>2193070
>>2193051
samefag

[Anonymous No.2193092]

>>2193070
>>2193051
Samefag, retard, GTFO.

Nothing is "doomed". And terraforming mars is a hell of a lot better than living in a frigid, oxygen-less low-pressure atmosphere.

As for feasibility, I've been curious as to whether oxygen is gravitationally bound to the planet against insolation. For instance, helium isn't bound to Earth. If you let it into the atmosphere, the sun heats it up enough to free it from Earth's gravity, and it blows away.

[Anonymous No.2193099]

There are far, far cheaper solutions, especially starting out. Like a good roof, or building underground.

[Anonymous No.2193100]

Why don't we just biosplice the martian DnA that makes them immune to radiostations effects into human DnA so that marshumans don't have to worry about it and can walk around and breath the air?

makes perfect cents to me.

[Anonymous No.2193102]

>>2193100
lolwhat
But a combination of terraforming and genetic engineering will probably work - eventually. Not this century.

[Anonymous No.2193161]

>>2193099
But how about food production? For max efficiency it would have to receive sun light right?

Also, we should use genetically engineered plants.

[Anonymous No.2193196]

>>2193051
Earth is a matter of fine tuning. Mars is a matter of hitting it with a sledge hammer. If there is one thing humanity is good at, it's not being delicate.

Hell, crashing comets into the planet solves half of the problems with terraforming Mars.

[Anonymous No.2193261]

>>2193100
Mars kept an atmosphere thick enough to maintain liquid H20 oceans for hundreds of millions of years. It can hold an atmosphere long enough for human purposes.

inb4"but if it can't hold an atmosphere for 100,000,001 years then why should we waste our time!?"

[Anonymous No.2193276]

>>2193161
You can have greenhouses with glass/whatever that only filters UV and above, and maintains a 1 atmosphere pressure internally.

[Anonymous No.2193301]

>>2193161
Fucking lamps dude. The first colonies are going to have nuclear power. It has the highest energy density and is thus easier to send from Earth and much easier then constructing wind turbines or solar cells for how much energy will be required early on.

As the colony grows, there will no doubt be a shift to local energy generation. Wind and solar would be the best options at that time.

[Anonymous No.2193346]

VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION:
Do comets and/or asteroids have any significant amounts of nitrogen or other inert gases that can be used as buffer gases on Mars? If not, we are dead in the water as it were for terraforming Mars.

[Anonymous No.2193354]

>>2193276
How about charged particles?

>>2193301
We would have to use a lot of energy to produce light for a lot of plants for food. Better have large crops on the surface receiving sun light and if needed a supplement of articifical light.

[Anonymous No.2193393]

>>2193354
>We would have to use a lot of energy to produce light for a lot of plants for food. Better have large crops on the surface receiving sun light and if needed a supplement of articifical light.
Infrastructure would grow with the population. It's not like there are 4 billion starving Ethiopians there already. People will not go there until the surplus infrastructure to support them is already established.

IF it becomes less expensive to create some sort of radiation shielding than simply use lamps then that is what they will do, barring some sort of political hold up.

It should also be noted by "lamps" I don't mean individual heat lamps for every stalk of corn. One may very sell have a kilometers long dome underground that uses a single bright energy source. One need only create a patch of solar cells on the surface that cover the amount of land you would have needed to grow the food in the first place with extras added to make up for electrical inefficiencies. Inefficiencies will no doubt more than double the needed land used by solar cells versus crops, but it sure beats terraforming the entire plaent early on.

As for the geostationary orbit magnetic shield, that would only work around the equator. That is a major limitation should no noteworthy resources be around that very fine band of land.

[Anonymous No.2193442]

>>2193393
How efficient are solar panels? How efficient are lamps? If you want to use lamps you will have to cover an area at leats 10X bigger with solar panels. Also, those solar panels will be produced there or we will have to bring them from Earth?

[Anonymous No.2193455]

The idea for the geostationary magnet is to be used with our firsts colonies. As to work outside of the magnetic field we would have to stay inside vehicles or use protective suit. Also, a few hour of exposure to the radiation isn't a big deal, live exposed for years is a big problem.

[Anonymous No.2193462]

>>2192968
You're channeling all the charged particles toward your base. Congratulations.

[Anonymous No.2193492]

>>2193462
Not really, there is a very dense asteroid in the way.

[Anonymous No.2193504]

>>2193442
Well, if the colony requires tens or square kilometers of arable land then it no doubt has the manpower necessary for constructing the solar cells on sight. Wind turbines would be useful too. I'm not going to even guess when the colony will be big enough to mine fissile material. It might be possible at that point or not until long after. Who knows.

[Anonymous No.2193525]

>>2192921
Have you researched the amount of power needed for shielding against cosmic rays magnetically? Also, those fields are so strong that they are deadly.

So you'd need a magnetic shield on the colony. Why not bury it under 5m of dirt?

[Anonymous No.2193529]

>>2193161
Ask your weed dealer how much his plants need sunlight.

[Anonymous No.2193533]

>>2193504
You need a lot of land to feed a few people (less than 10). Even more if you think that the productivity there wouldn't be as high as here.

[Anonymous No.2193543]

>>2193533
10 what? 10 square kilometers to feed X amount of people? X square kilometers to feed 10 people? What is X?

[Anonymous No.2193548]

>>2193525
That's talking about a strong electromagnet some meters above you and not a huge permanent magnet 17,000km above you

[Anonymous No.2193553]

>>2193543
less than 10 people I'm thinking about a team living there.

[Anonymous No.2193554]

>>2193533
>Implying that sunlight on mars is not outclassed by grow lights
>Implying that you wouldn't need big damn greenhouses to do this
>Implying that simple inflatable shapes are sufficient for this

[Anonymous No.2193560]

>>2193548
It doesn't matter whether it's an electromagnet or a permanent magnet, bro - it's a goddamned magnet. To get the deflection needed (To keep cosmic rays from coming in at horizon level) requires perilously strong magnetic fields.

Unless you're planning on a coil that's several hundred km in diameter? Is it superconducting? Either way, how much power do you need for it? And would that power be better used for grow lights?

[Anonymous No.2193570]

you'd probably be better off bombing the surface with drill-mounted prefab shelters and tunneling underground then sticking greenhouses on top.

[Anonymous No.2193577]

>>2193553
10 people for how much land?

[Anonymous No.2193580]

>>2193554
How about sunlight AND grow lights?

How about plants genetically engineered to be optimal at the bads present in Mars?

[Anonymous No.2193602]

>>2193577
"The minimum amount of agricultural land necessary for sustainable food security, with a diversified diet similar to those of North America and Western Europe (hence including meat), is 0.5 of a hectare per person. This does not allow for any land degradation such as soil erosion, and it assumes adequate water supplies. Very few populous countries have more than an average of 0.25 of a hectare. It is realistic to suppose that the absolute minimum of arable land to support one person is a mere 0.07 of a hectare–and this assumes a largely vegetarian diet, no land degradation or water shortages, virtually no post-harvest waste, and farmers who know precisely when and how to plant, fertilize, irrigate, etc." - [FAO, 1993]

[Anonymous No.2193610]

>>2193570
Yeah. I think that "homes" should be underground but for psichological factors I think spend some time in the greenhouses with the plants would be benefical for the tiny isolated population.

[Anonymous No.2193612]

>>2193580
That's hard. Not enough air. Too much UV. Too hard to build extensive greenhouses.

[Anonymous No.2193633]

>>2193612
build multiple insuflable geenhouses. You don't need a big continuous land.

[Anonymous No.2193663]

>>2193602
There will be no pests and given the amount of infrastructure already allocated to growing the food there will obviously be no shirking on water and fertilizer (plus relatively no water will be lost in a the close system of the colony).

Even so, assuming it takes 0.1 hectares of land per person, that is 1 square kilometer of land for 1000 people (if your info is correct). That sounds damned doable.

[Anonymous No.2193760]

>>2193663
No problem of pest, water of fertilizer. The problem will be light.

[Anonymous No.2193778]

>>2193633
What is insuflable?

[Anonymous No.2193784]

>>2193760
Light only takes power.

[Anonymous No.2193800]

>>2193760
Light will be generated within the dome. Nuclear power using fissile material shipped from Earth would work initially for the few colonists. After many years of those colonists adding infrastructure there would be enough solar panels and wind turbines to meet their needs. Additional colonists won't be added until further infrastructure development meets those additional needs. If the population ever gets into the tens of thousands then they will mine out fissile material from Mars itself or even use converted solar sail mirrors to increase the power output of ground based solar cells.

[Anonymous No.2193817]

>>2193800
>wind turbines
>Average Martian pressure is 1% of Earth's
wtf?

[Anonymous No.2194033]

>>2193817
It also gets up to much higher speeds. Your argument is invalid.

[Anonymous No.2194051]

>>2193778
inflatable. Sorry, language barrier

[Anonymous No.2194237]

>>2193784
Yeah, but power need a source.

By the way, is there any way to use solar winds to produce electricity?

[Anonymous No.2195788]

bump over the troll threads!

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2195812]

I would appreciate any links on how to create a large artificial planetary magnetic field. Cost and power requirements are unimportant.

[Anonymous No.2195816]

>>2195788
wait, this isn't a troll thread?

we can't fix earth so we should move to mars?
wait what?

[Anonymous No.2195817]

>>2194237
I'd imagine it is. Solar wind consists of charged particles. So if we build a beanstalk or several on Mars, it'd be conceivable that huge potential differences could be produced.

Of course, the system would produce a highly inconsistent amount of power as it would depend on such a changing resource.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2195819]

>>2195816
More like 'We know how to fix Earth but no one is listening, let's get the other idiots to make another planet for us and we can live in our own utopia'

[Anonymous No.2195852]

>>2195819
>earth doomed
>too expensive to fix the small percentage of damage we have done to earth's regulatory systems
>solution? CREATE AN ENTIRE ATMOSPHERE ON ANOTHER PLANET
>realize you are back at the original problem, but IN SPACE, so it's waaaaay cooler.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2195855]

Bump for interesting topic

[Anonymous No.2195863]

>>2195852
>original problem, but IN SPACE, so it's waaaaay cooler
sounds good

[sage No.2195866]

sage for retarded basement dwellers tripfagging and masturbating over pulp science fiction books.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2195876]

>>2195852
+ 0.38G's, fun for sports, easier to construct buildings, flying machines if there is a pressurized atmosphere
+ Little geological instability from no tectonic plates moving
+ Humanity becomes two-planet species, no more all eggs in one basket, also if some planetary catastrophe happens there is a backup planet for the survivors to move to
+ Closer to asteroid belt, farther from sun's massive gravity well, easier for mining and refining of metals
+ Worldwide inspiration of possibly billions of people into space travel and the future of humanity
+ New countries and ideologies that may greatly benefit humanity but are traditionally fucked up by big bully countries and scarcity of livable/arable land can flourish

[sage No.2195893]

>>2195876
>>Fun for sports

I stopped reading there because now I know you are just trolling. There is no way a fat science fiction reading aspie knows about how much fun sports are anyway, nevermind about sports in space.

You play quidditch with the rest of the hogwarts team too?

[Anonymous No.2195901]

>>2195893
Oh hey /fit/fag! How's those shrunken testes from all those steroids?

tl;dr: not everyone is a fatass

[sage No.2195902]

>>2195876
>livable/arable land can flourish
talking about mars right?
>bully countries
Wait, exactly what groups would have the funds to terraform a planet? Oh yeah, either a "bully" corporation or a "bully" country.
I understand you often dream about running to mars to escape the "bullies" on earth, but don't turn everybodies mind into fuck just because you can't handle THIS society (much less a speculative, future society).

[Anonymous No.2195910]

>>2193100
this.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2195919]

>>2195893
I swear your entire post was an ad hominem attack.
Imagine everyone flying everywhere in basketball, slamdunking.
>>2195902
>talking about mars right?
Mars has every single mineral required for agriculture, just not liquid water.
>Wait, exactly what groups would have the funds to terraform a planet? Oh yeah, either a "bully" corporation or a "bully" country.
Ho hum, I wonder how they got the money to start up a space program.
>I understand you often dream about running to mars to escape the "bullies" on earth, but don't turn everybodies mind into fuck just because you can't handle THIS society (much less a speculative, future society).
If you're saying that I should be happy with what this society and system currently is, then you are seriously one of the first people I wish grievous bodily harm to.

[Anonymous No.2195922]

>>2192921
Why not just live underground?

[Anonymous No.2195924]

>>2195901
>>2195893

You obviously don't realise how large a part sport plays in contemporary society. Sport is pretty much the glue holding global society together, along with religion and trade.

I'm not saying that's not fucking retarded, but that's the way it is.

[Anonymous No.2195925]

>>2195919
hows that aspergers treating you?

[sage No.2195929]

>>2195919
HERPDERP
IMAGINE A SOCIETY IN WHICH I COULD ACTUALLY PLAY SPORTS
WULDn"T IT BE GREAT GUYS?
...guys?

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2195941]

>>2195925
>>2195929
I play soccer and tennis all the fucking time, actually.
Still haven't heard a logical and systematic reason why terraforming Mars is a bad idea, except LOLOL UR NOT TUFF FOR EARTH LOL U ASPERGER FAG
The butthurt is astounding.

[sage No.2195943]

soccer? tennis?
thanks for proving my point big guy.
the aspergers comment is because you actually argue on the internet, and you assume I give a fuck one way or another about terraforming mars.

wait, now explain the butthurt again?

[Anonymous No.2195945]

>>2195876
>no tectonic plates moving

means no magnetosphere, deadly radiation everywhere

[Anonymous No.2195947]

>>2195943
did you really just try to defend your athleticism using soccer and tennis?
I think you should go to bed friend, you are clearly losing any edge you thought you had arguing with that troll.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2195948]

>>2195943
>thanks for proving my point big guy.
I'm sorry I don't play gridiron and go HOO HOO HOO like a real man. Fucking ass.
>and you assume I give a fuck one way or another about terraforming mars.
Why are you still in this thread and not back on /b/?
>wait, now explain the butthurt again?
You're the one that began with the insults. But nice try feigning ignorance.

[Anonymous No.2195951]

>>2195948
>>claim not to read, then quote every line.
I think you need to go to bed.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2195954]

>>2195945
That was why I said I'd appreciate it if some doable large scale artificial magnetic field was suggested.
>>2195947
Same thing for that guy goes to you, dipshit..

[Anonymous No.2195957]

>>2195943
anotherfag here
>assume I give a fuck one way or another about terraforming mars
you obviously care about it enough to be so terribly butthurt about the whole concept that you cannot even partake of serious adult discussion about it but are instead acting like the almost-retarded idiot, shouting epithets from the classroom door and then when everyone stares at you, it makes you feel big.

Get a fucking life.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2195959]

>>2195951
>i picked a reaction image at random

[Anonymous No.2195961]

>>2195852
>>2195816
>>2195866
>>2195929
What's the matter? They are not giving attention to your religion thread?

TROLL HARDER FAGGOT!!!

[Anonymous No.2195963]

>>2195812
How hard would be to magnetize a nickel-iron asteroid?

[sage No.2195965]

im going to bed big time.
I guess that means you win the prize! Virginity forever!
See you on the tennis courts buddy.

[sage No.2195969]

ps.
sage.

[Anonymous No.2195970]

>>2195957
He is just butthurt that his science vs religion thread got ignored

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2195971]

>>2195965
Interesting, soon after shit didn't go your way you get sleepy.

[Anonymous No.2195983]

If you reply to a troll things are going his way. Just don't feed him and he will leave.

Ignore them. Don't argue with them. No matter how much you think you are getting the better of them, you are still arguing with a troll about something he doesn't care about for the sake of making yourself look better over the internet... which is pointless in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.2195988]

>>2195965 nice sage
Now that Bozo the Clone has been tucked to bed after his hissy fit...

>>2195963
It would require a whole lot of energy. Depending of course on the mass, but I wouldn't want to produce that power from any perishable resources.

So I'd imagine you'd have to go with a spinning sunflower-configuration. The asteroid sits in the middle and around it is a huge array of solar panels. The whole thing is then spun at a very low velocity to give it structural rigidity without making it too massive and resource-intensive.

[Anonymous No.2195995]

>>2195988
How about heat it and create a magnetic field while it is cooling? The energy source would be solar power. Most likely the asteroid would have a nickel-iron nucleus so we could heat just the center.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos No.2195999]

Anybody got any tips on picking up romulan women? I haven't had very much luck on earth...

[Anonymous No.2196002]

>>2195999
Fake Inurdaes is fake

[Anonymous No.2196005]

>>2193261

Thats because a million billion years ago or whatever you are saying that it held an atmosphere, our sun, and everything else in the universe was in a vastly different state than it is now, thus causing mars to lose its atmosphere

[Anonymous No.2196006]

By the way, how much plants would need to be protected from radiation? Des they will have to receive a lot of shielding or they just aren't as fragile as us?

[Anonymous No.2196008]

>>2195995
I was wondering about this too. I'm not the one that first advocated the idea btw.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2196022]

>>2195999
The butthurt truly is astounding.
*has never watched a Star Trek episode in his life, for real*

[Anonymous No.2196024]

So uhhmm, why not just live underground?

[Anonymous No.2196035]

>>2196024
That's another option. But I think this thread is about the pros and cons to make that asteroid magnet.

[Anonymous No.2196040]

>>2195812
put a superconducting ring around Mars, keep it cool and induce a supercurrent in it. PROBLEM SOLVED!

Except now the whole equator of Mars pulls in ferromagnetic space to their death... Also make sure to armor your ring of death!

Cost: probably on the order of petadollars

[Anonymous No.2196041]

>>2196035
Pros: none, you won't be able to create a strong enough field

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2196046]

>>2196024
That sounds like a prison to me to be honest, I'd wager many other people would feel the same I guess.
Unless there's an absolute fuckton of power being pumped down there for huge caverns with artificial weather and light bright as the sun.

[Anonymous No.2196058]

>>2196040
>ferromagnetic space
...what?

Sorry, I just woke up so that might be why I can't understand this.

[Anonymous No.2196065]

>>2196046
Sigh, you don't need light as bright as the sun, when you have FUCKING HUGE WINDOWS to let the sun in! And then you use air as your rad shielding just like you would in a space colony.

And Mars is probably geologically inactive, so you could dig really deep into Mars and make giant underground space with windows to the sun. Think of it as slowly putting a dome over Mars.

[Anonymous No.2196071]

>>2196058
spaceships.

[The ThunderBird !!m4ANrdZXfVL No.2196074]

>>2196058
Probably missed a 'junk' there, as in "Ferromagnetic pace junk". Kind of a serious typo...

[Anonymous No.2196076]

>>2196065
forgot pic related

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2196079]

>>2196065
I like, but there is the possible minor problem of sand covering the structure, and if you're using a kilometer of air for rad shielding while not just smack an asteroid into Mars and then use the relatively thick atmosphere as rad shielding?

Sorry I'm a bit stoned if what I just said sounded completely retarded. Not the smacking asteroid part though.

[Sound No.2196088]

Ok so my first paragraph is this can you guys do two things?
A) critique
B) help me think of a good ending

[Anonymous No.2196089]

>>2196079
Tilted windows.

[Anonymous No.2196093]

>>2196088
>Ok so my first paragraph is this can you guys do two things?
>A) critique

Add a comma or better yet a period between "this" and "can." Add the word "these" between "do" and "two." Otherwise not bad for a first paragraph.

>B) help me think of a good ending

say goodnight Gracie.

[Anonymous No.2196094]

>>2196074
>>2196071
ooohh, right.
Excuse me, I'm gonna have to inject some caffeine so I wake up.

[Anonymous No.2196176]

>>2196088
Or something like what would be needed to make it work.

[Anonymous No.2196248]

So, anyone have any idea on how hard would it be to cultivate plants without shielding from radiation?

[Anonymous No.2196339]

>>2196248
Get the seeds from around Chernobyl:
http://www.plantphysiol.org/cgi/content/full/135/1/357

tl;dr: plants around chernobyl have developed resistance to mutagens while remaining human-consumable(apart from the radiation).

[Anonymous No.2196346]

Wouldn't it be easier to just thicken the atmosphere and keep our shelters insulated from radiation by a foot or so of dust?

[Anonymous No.2196360]

>>2196346
Easier, yes. Sustainable for any longer stretch of time? No.

First real bases will almost certainly be underground bunkers, and I could see how some people living apart from the larger populus might want to keep to bunker life with only a solarium/greenhouse on the surface.

[Anonymous No.2196414]

Don't you...
Firget about me!

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2196437]

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/06/27/phoenix-soil.html

[Anonymous No.2196492]

What if you shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.2196499]

>>2196437
Bro, that's disgusting. Asparagus makes piss smell like dead animals

[Anonymous No.2196501]

>>2196360
>Easier, yes. Sustainable for any longer stretch of time? No.

Why wouldn't it be sustainable?

[Anonymous No.2196526]

How to create a magnetosphere around Mars.

Step 1: Gather asteroids from the belt
Step 2: Arrange them with a lattice to form a dense Artificial Moon
Step 3: Let gravity of AM exert forces on Mars
Step 4: Mars' core goes molten
Step 5: Magnetosphere created
Step 6: ?????
Step 7: Profit.

[Anonymous No.2196564]

>>2196526
See you in some thousands of years!

[Anonymous No.2196593]

>>2193560
>>2193525

Hahahahah, no.

I don't know what kind of "research" you've done, but Earth's magnetic field is nowhere near "perilous" levels. More like fridge-magnet levels.

[Anonymous No.2196603]

This threas is stupid.
You are all stupid.
Fuck you all.

[Anonymous No.2196663]

>>2196346
I don't think change the atmosphere of the entire planet would be easier. We should try to set some colonies there first and in the long run perform global alterations.

[Anonymous No.2196677]

>>2196603
You mad that this is not a religion thread troll?

[Anonymous No.2196732]

Colony established! After nearly a year of near-continuous labor, robotic workers have established a sizable base within a lava tube and in surrounding subterranean areas. Large surface windows provide light for the underground farm chambers, immense solar panels provide a primary energy source, and a small nuclear reactor provides a secondary energy source. The fabrication section, outfitted with multi-material automated printers, is capable of building simple and complex parts and machinery from resources recovered beneath the surface. At current, the colony is estimated to be able to support the continuous presence of 55 humans and innumerable robot drones.

The initial crew of 12 has just arrived. Their transport, Lycidas, is unloading supplies of un-printable components and other miscellaneous items via tether. The year is 2035.

What now?

[Anonymous No.2196762]

>>2196732
Allocate people thus:
2 people to survey the surface around the base
4 people to get the farms going
4 people to run maintenance
1 doctor
1 to rule them all

[Anonymous No.2196764]

fucking magnets, how do they work?

[Anonymous No.2196768]

>>2196762
1 to find them
1 to bring them all
and onto mars bind them

[Anonymous No.2196850]

>>2196762
What does the ruler do besides rule?

[Anonymous No.2197060]

>>2196732
Strike the Earth!

[Anonymous No.2197066]

>>2197060
Dorf Mars?

DORF MARS!!!!

[Anonymous No.2197072]

>>2197066
BEST EMBARK EVER

[Anonymous No.2197075]

>>2197072
Only if there are unspeakable horrors beneath the surface of Mars. There isn't much topside.

[Anonymous No.2197116]

>>2197075
Well...
There's the martian city that kills humans. The other martian city that possesses humans. The superluminal starship under the Cydonian Face. The big reactor under the Pyramid. The air-factories. The underground ocean near one pole...

[Anonymous No.2197132]

>>2196663
>I don't think change the atmosphere of the entire planet would be easier.

We're doing it on Earth right now. It isn't hard, it's just time consuming.

[Anonymous No.2197135]

>>2197132
Well sure, but we had a slow start. If we'd ha the tech then that we have now, we'd have turned Earth into another Venus already.

"What a wonderful world it would be"

[Anonymous No.2197548]

>>2197132
So let's increase the CO2 on mars right? WAIT A MOMENT! IT ALREADY IS FULL OF CO2!!!

Also, we are making a tiny change in our atmosphere breaking some balances but on Mars we will be making a huge change in temperature and composition of the atmosphere!

[Anonymous No.2197592]

>>2193525
>Also, those fields are so strong that they are deadly.
we already have one on earth shielding from considerably stronger solar wind and we are doing just fine

[Anonymous No.2198811]

Post on a science thread

Make trolls mad!

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.2198871]

>>2196663
>>2197548
see
>>2195812

[Anonymous No.2198911]

nope. Cheaper alternatives.

[Anonymous No.2198958]

How about this? Crops would be genetically engineered to be resistant to radiation and would grow in pressurized greenhouses in the surface of Mars with most of the care automatized. the firsts humans to stay permanently on Mars will live underground most of the time and explore the planet using vehicles and suits equiped to protect them from radiation.

[Anonymous No.2199030]

>>2195957

Alpha centari? Nice

[Anonymous No.2199606]

Bump over the religion and homework threads!

[Anonymous No.2201611]

>>2199030
Awww yeah, civ series games fans all up in this bitch!

[Anonymous No.2201805]

bump

[Anonymous No.2203263]

>>2198911
How about a big strong magnet on a ballon? The point of it be at very high altitude is that even a small change in the trajectory will make the particles hit far away.

By the way, I think this is what is happening in this thread. All the studies talk about using a magnetic field source in situ to deflect the radiation while OP is proposing to use a magnetic field far away