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Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:23:59 2010 No.2187856 [Reply] [Original]

What do you think the world will be like in the year 3010? How advanced do you think humans will be by then? Is it possible that humans will have died off by then, or is 1000 years not long enough for that unless there is some terrible disaster such as a nuclear holocaust?

It makes me sad that I won't be around to see what things are like 1000 years from now. Technology has developed exponentially over the last 100 years, so I can't even fathom what will be around in 1000.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:31:59 2010 No.2187902 Everything will be slightly smoother, the entire planet is covered in cities except for Australia which would be a giant farm. Oh and we still won't have fucking flying cars

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:37:59 2010 No.2187938 >>2187902 What about jetpacks?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:38:59 2010 No.2187942 Antarctica will be a lush forest.

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:42:59 2010 No.2187968

>>2187938
I don't think jetpacks will become common thing even in the year of 639292. If the jetpack fails( like some 20 yo chinese model) you fall, you die. Problems with techonology are so common that those things would be too unsecure because the smallest problem could cause death easily.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:43:59 2010 No.2187972 >>2187902 Flying cars are called planes, bro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:44:59 2010 No.2187980 >>2187968 >Parachutes

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Dec 11 16:44:59 2010 No.2187982 File: 486 KB, 1920x1080, ISV.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:46:59 2010 No.2187989 I guess we will have developed robotics, genetic engineering, brain-computer interfaces, and virtual reality enough that we might not be human anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:46:59 2010 No.2187990 >>2187968 I sense a pessimist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:46:59 2010 No.2187993 I know want thing certain. We won't be on this rock. Exclusively.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:49:59 2010 No.2188013 Unless we fix the people, it won't matter. And by that I mean changing the way humanity works. No money, and things like that, like in star trek. It'll never happen. It will probably an earth full of wars and slaves and pollution

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:50:59 2010 No.2188019 >>2187993 > I know want thing wait I know... WANT thing? oh my god, you're in /sci/ sir, behave yourself!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:51:59 2010 No.2188028 >>2187968 >If the jetpack fails you fall, you die. Like planes? So dangerous, no one uses those.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:53:59 2010 No.2188036 With some luck, a nuclear wasteland.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:53:59 2010 No.2188040 >>2188028 Lol my thoughts exactly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:55:59 2010 No.2188050 I hope these technologies will bring about a solution to our social, cultural, economic and political problems.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 16:59:59 2010 No.2188073 File: 286 KB, 1280x800, 1279150827132.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2187902 This. Pic related, A space station using Centrifugal force for pseudo-gravity. We'll colonize space this way before moving to other planets.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:03:59 2010 No.2188106 >What do you think the world will be like in the year 3010? Much like it was a thousand years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:06:59 2010 No.2188130 >No United States yay?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:07:59 2010 No.2188136 I believe not much will change, but we will live underwater. Additionally, your great-great-great-granddaughter will be pretty fine.

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:10:59 2010 No.2188156

From "The Secret History of the World and How to Get Out Alive":

Q: Who made the monuments on Mars?
A: Atlanteans.
Q: So, the Atlanteans had inter-planetary ability?
A: Yes. With ease. Atlantean technology makes yours look like the Neanderthal era.
Q: Who created the structures on the moon that Richard Hoagland has discovered?
A: Atlanteans.
Q: What did they use these structures for?
A: Energy transfer points for crystalline power/symbolism as in monuments or statuary.
Q: What statuary are you referring to?
A: Example is face.
Q: What power did these crystals gather?
A: Sun.
Q: Was it necessary for them to have power gathering stations on Mars and the Moon. Did this increase their power?
A: Not necessary but it is not necessary for you to have a million dollars either. Get the correlation? Atlanteans were power hungry the way your society is money hungry.
Q: Was the accumulation of this power what brought about their downfall?
A: Yes.
Q: Did they lose control of this power?
A: It overpowered them the same way your computers will overpower you.

And that was some 50K years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:12:59 2010 No.2188161 We will spread throughout the solar system. Probes were sent to nearby star systems, preparation for colonization is underway. Galactic empire that will last for millions of years is in its infancy.

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:18:59 2010 No.2188197

In 3010, the world will have faster cars, faster computers, and bigger televisions; but it will otherwise look almost identical to what it looks like today.

Also, in the year 3010, the first mission to Mars will be planned to occur 20 years later, but budget cuts will stop it before it can happen just like the 50 other times the mission was planned to happen in the last 1000 years.

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:23:59 2010 No.2188234

why does it make you sad? technology doesn't make life better unless it's direct genetic engineering with longer life and health etc.. i would rather live in the 19th century rural america as a free opportunist than in some jam-packed futuristic city full of schizophrenic, narcistic and overtly materialistic unhappy people.

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:29:59 2010 No.2188272

A Cuban-Missile-Crisis like event is likely to happen every 100 years due to shifting geopolitics. Over many hundreds of years the likelihood of having a nuclear exchange increases. When such an exchange happens, cities will be incinerated sending black ash into the atmosphere, blocking out the Sun's light to Earth. The wars that will follow the sudden power vaccuum do to the annihilation of the two leading powers of the time will be exacerbated by die off of crops across the world. Billions will die in the ensuing war and famine. Civilization will crumble and knowledge will be lost. With no fossil fuels to jump start civilization thousands of years later when the environment and human culture have stabilized humanity will simply exist instead of progress. Sooner or later disease or natural disaster will finish the job.

Barring everyone simply holding hands and singing folk songs, the only way to avoid it would be to create some authority that can arbitrate inernational disputes. But everyone hates world governments so that is likely not going to happen.

tl;dr - Everything you will ever do (children or accomplishments) will die with humanity when we nuke ourselves.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:30:59 2010 No.2188279 >>2188013 shithead >>2188161 >Galactic empire Yes, because what will propel us into the future is a centralized power structure, it's worked so well for us before...

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:34:59 2010 No.2188298

>>2188272
>politics are a problem
>create a super-political system to fix it

you are a huge shit head. Also, since worldwide nuclear devastation has NO historical precedent, your assumption of a cycle of self destruction until an ultimate extinction of humans leads me to conclude that you are poorly educated, or depressed.

Hopefully both

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:34:59 2010 No.2188300
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>>2188279
>Yes, because what will propel us into the future is a centralized power structure, it's worked so well for us before...
>Implying tribes of humans were more successful than modern day nations because they were small.
HAHAHA, oh wow!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:36:59 2010 No.2188316 >>2188161 A government cannot control more than a few star systems if that. A galactic government is impossible.

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:36:59 2010 No.2188320

>>2188279
>Yes, because what will propel us into the future is a centralized power structure, it's worked so well for us before...
yes and given that it's almost impossible to communicate in a sensible way on a galactic level. there is not going to be any empire of humans. even if humans could somehow miraculously migrate to another planet (which isn't likely to happen), the settlers would immediately start differing from the humans that they originated from, and quickly form another entity.

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:39:59 2010 No.2188335

>>2188300
Your comparison to tribes is unapplicable, or you believe that government expansion is tied to scientific expansion. Which wouldn't explain the biggest technological leap post civil war-1913, at which time government was arguably at its least concentrated after the industrial revolution, which in case you want to talk about, didn't come from government assistance

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:42:59 2010 No.2188347 >>2188335 >biggest technological leap post civil war-1913 Confirmed as idiot. Now ignoring any post that sounds like you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:42:59 2010 No.2188355 >>2188320 oh and, by planet i meant an extrasolar planet.

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:42:59 2010 No.2188350

>>2188320
I think the separation will come as the settlers become independent.

Unless we never find clever ways to travel (bending the 4th dimension to reach another point in the third instantaneously ), which means we could only send out hopeful self sustaining colonization expeditions, then it would likely work like that.

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:47:59 2010 No.2188381

>>2188350
the separation doens't take much. we saw it happen here on earth when europeans migrated to the new world. now, imagine it happening on a planetary-level with great communication difficulties between the "old world" and the "new world". it is guaranteed.

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:48:59 2010 No.2188392

>>2187968

>I don't think automobiles will become common thing even in the year of 639292. If the automobile brakes fails( like some 20 yo chinese model) you crash, you die. Problems with techonology are so common that those things would be too unsecure because the smallest problem could cause death easily.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:51:59 2010 No.2188406 >>2188320 >>2188316 >>2188279 faggots that have never read Foundation by Isaac Asimov your attempts at being intellectual are pathetic

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:52:59 2010 No.2188410 >>2188406 >your attempts at being intellectual are pathetic >doesn't produce an actual argument >can't form a proper sentence lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:53:59 2010 No.2188419 >>2188410 I laughed. I really laughed. I've never seen anyone so insecure as you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:54:59 2010 No.2188420 my guess is that we will have another dark age at some point, because every time human civilization reaches a peak, historically, we manage to fuck it up and end up knocked down a peg or two.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:54:59 2010 No.2188424 i wonder what people will look like in a thousand years. would human evolution cause a big change in appearance?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:55:59 2010 No.2188434 >>2188420 did the middle east have a dark age? i know while europe was having the dark age, they still kept improving up until about the renaissance when we blew past them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:57:59 2010 No.2188444 >>2188434 they are right at it, they just life on a parasitic lifestyle from the west at the moment

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:57:59 2010 No.2188446 >>2188406 i didn't know this was a competition of intellect. how exactly do you overcome the difficulty of communicating with a human colony several light years away? how do you prevent them from deciding to form a "new america"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:57:59 2010 No.2188440 >>2188434 They have dark age now.

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:58:59 2010 No.2188449

Holy shit. I thought /sci/ would overestimate the rate of technological increase, but most of you are talking as if he asked what 2030 will be like, not 3010.

Beyond this century, assuming no cataclysmic events will occur that seriously impede technological progress, we will likely see humanity completely transformed beyond all recognition.

The ways in which we characterise civilisation today (domestic technology, work places, urban planning, transportation) will be completely irrelevant by 2100.

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 17:59:59 2010 No.2188457

>>2188420
We have already reached or are reaching the environmental limit of our global civilization. That has never happened before. If modern day civilization collapses it will no doubt be for fundamentally different reasons than what caused the collapsed of past empires.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 18:02:59 2010 No.2188472 >>2188449 i think there'll be more biological advances than any of the other sciences. physics has had it's golden era, time for biology now. chemistry will always be relevant but as a part of physics or biology.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 18:03:59 2010 No.2188478 >>2188446 I wasn't stating something that I actually believe is going to happen. It was reference to a book, nothing more. Disregard that post if it hurts your eyes so goddamn much. No wonder /sci/ is easiest board to troll...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 18:04:59 2010 No.2188484 >>2188449 Way to put a bullet in between the eyes of realism and go right for science fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 18:04:59 2010 No.2188488 >>2188478 that's right, go away now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 18:05:59 2010 No.2188495 >>2188472 >in this century

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 18:09:59 2010 No.2188518 And because of a single poster this thread has turned to shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 18:10:59 2010 No.2188519 Let me guess. That's what you wish for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riNeQbxM1gE That's what you get: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17DPJHNVx2Q

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 18:11:59 2010 No.2188527

>>2188484

Future speculation is, by definition, science fantasy, and by taking a pessimistic stance by default you do not actually make a better judgement than anybody else.

However, at least I would say that what with science actually enjoying a massive revolution at the moment thanks to materials science, that we havn't suddenly reached a plataeu. It's just you're clearly so shitbrained and terminally myopic that because current technological advancements are not measurable in child like qualifiers of visually impressive inventions, you actually believe that the future will effectively be a slightly improved version of today's reality, when all available evidence would suggest that humans genuinely are on the brink of massive biotechnological developments that will completely change what it is to be human.

Skepticism does not automatically equate to intelligent thought.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 18:13:59 2010 No.2188532 >>2188316 >cannot >is it's a bad idea to deal with absolutes

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 18:13:59 2010 No.2188533 >>2188518 all these threads are always shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 18:15:59 2010 No.2188547 >>2188472 broseph, the golden age of "physics" is just beginning. Once we figure out the big bang and shit... shit is gonna be so cash we will be able to create the universe, Mr. Sagan. and it will be glorious

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 19:50:59 2010 No.2188983

>>2188547
We have the majority of physics figured out. Unless we discover magic, physics won't have another golden age. Yes physics may give us FLT, but there won't be much beyond that.

With bio(particularly human medicine) we know very little. We can't cure cancer, we don't have antibiotics for viruses, we know very little about the brain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 19:51:59 2010 No.2188990 >>2188983 >We have the majority of physics figured out. There's exactly zero reasons to believe that's true, and a mountain of reasons to believe it's false.

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Anonymous Sat Dec 11 19:56:59 2010 No.2189012

Wars are getting too powerful to keep having them and have humans survive. So I predict that there will be NO wars, thats right. It's a bold prediction, but I think a new age is dawning(at least before we get to space wars) where all competition is done through science, technology, and how well you can destroy your enemy (theoretically) just like the cold war.

In the year 3010, continuing the rate of now, I believe we will have visited every planet in our solar system, we will be mathematical geniuses, and we will have probes and satellites visiting every known planet, universe, or any other body.

OR of course we will follow down the social path, and humanity will get worse, money will continue to inflate, the media takes over, and we live our lives fighting the government, that has the power to destroy us, but doesn't because there goes their money. People get dumber, education suffers, and we go into dark ages.

Although no one can really predict the future, so none of these predictions will be accurate, we can't can't perceive what we haven't already seen. Which is why every idea stems from another idea, or random occurrence!

i'm excited

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 19:57:59 2010 No.2189014 >>2188424 No. Think year 1010. That was medieval times. It doesn't seem like that long ago when you think about it in that respect. Evolution cannot occur that quickly unless we intervene.

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 19:59:59 2010 No.2189025

Well lets look at the things that have been around for at least 1,000 years and is likely to remain for the next.
Religion
Running Water
Sewer systems
roads

Things we build that are likely to last 1,000 years
Buildings
Highways
plastic waste
satellites

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 19:59:59 2010 No.2189028 >>2189012 Excited for what? You'll be dead.

Anonymous Sat Dec 11 20:01:59 2010 No.2189035

>>2189028
for the next few years, I'm sorry it was implied that I was excited for the next 1000 years, but a person of your intelligence (Im assuming) should assume I can't live that long, unless of course you were trying to be funny, in that case, ha ha?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 20:13:59 2010 No.2189068 Biological immortality.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 21:49:59 2010 No.2189448 There are three things that we probably won't have in 3010. Oil, coal, and natural gas. Imagine a world without them. PS: The biggest year for conventional oil production was 2005.

Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. Sat Dec 11 21:56:59 2010 No.2189473
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>>2187856
>It makes me sad that I won't be around to see what things are like 1000 years from now
http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/forever-young/manhattan-beach-project-end-aging-2029
http://www.sens.org/sens-research/research-themes
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3329065877451441972#

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 21:58:59 2010 No.2189477 File: 68 KB, 504x716, futurist.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2189473 Pic related.

Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. Sat Dec 11 22:02:59 2010 No.2189489
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>>2189477
There is demand for it.
There is research being done on it.
There are more and more people realizing this as an actual possibility.
There will be more and more research done on this.
Animal life extension trials will send the world into a race for the human cure.
Standard pharmaceutical corporations will start funding research for this.
Initially it will be expensive, but stunning demand will force the price down fast.
If any governments try to make laws forbidding life extension treatments, there will be riots, civil war, and mass exodus of citizens to other legal life extension countries.
And also, pic related.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 22:48:59 2010 No.2189707 >>2189489 Apophis?

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Dec 11 22:51:59 2010 No.2189720 >>2189707 He means the Singularity. I laugh at him and post a picture of Charles Stross with Feòrag.

>>	Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. Sat Dec 11 23:03:59 2010 No.2189781 >>2189720 >>2189707 What? I don't understand how this is even related to the singularity.

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Dec 11 23:05:59 2010 No.2189789 >>2189781 Wait, no: Manhattan Beach Project. Plausible Mid-Future Timing fail durp.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 11 23:09:59 2010 No.2189813 I have no idea what to expect. Maybe racism turning from individual races to whether or not your mind is on a computer

>>	Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. Sat Dec 11 23:14:59 2010 No.2189842 File: 56 KB, 600x471, 1286375405040.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2189813 That is SOOOOO 2150.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 12 09:06:59 2010 No.2191658 bujmp

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