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Gentlemen.

By now it should be clear to everyone that the very raison d'être of our species is to flood the galaxy with self replicating machines and fuck over any other intelligent life out there with the sheer brunt of exponential growth.

However, how do we even begin? Self replication is a difficult thing to achieve. Yes, the components are right there, in the asteroids and planetoids across the galaxy, but it's a long way from a floating chunk of iron rock to the intricate circuitry necessary to form a new probe.

Discuss.

>> No.2186456

I think humanity is already self-replicating enough, and we have all the components necessary here on earth to make probes. The problem is living at the bottom of a damn gravity well, and space being so fucking large and empty.

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I would prefer that a Krogan-like event not happen. We many piss off alien intelligences greater than ours.

Nanoreplicators, space elevators and the advent of artificial intelligence will enable self-replication across the galaxy if humanity puts it's efforts to that. I want to see the galactic core personally.

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>>2186469
*We may piss off

>> No.2186496

>>2186251
What you're talking about are Vonn Neumen Machines. A few simple ones have been built which stick together pre-assembled modules, but nothing as complicated as mining the ore, fabricating the chips etc.

It takes tens of thousands of people to go from extracting raw materials to assembling the final product. We could do it all with robots, and use the materials to build more robots, but it will cost a googol dollars to set up unless some better technology is perfected.

We do however have things which fit the rough description of self replicating machine like computer viruses and corporations.

>> No.2186500

it's easier to send rockets with bacteries and other lesser life shit everywhere and let them do the job

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>>2186496
>but it will cost a googol dollars to set up unless some better technology is perfected.
At this present moment.

>> No.2186521

>>2186510
Moore's law deals with how many transistors we can cram into a processor. Unfortunately there is more to robotics than just raw computational power.

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>>2186510

Okay, since when does Moore's Law apply to everything you want to apply it to?

I blame pic related.

>> No.2186616

>>2186521
>>2186608
Hmm, I thought I posted the graph that has a dropping price alongside rising transistor count.

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>>2186608

Oh God is that really Charles Stross?

Explains... Everthing, really, from the mind uploading thing to Manfred being a sub fag.

>> No.2188669

>>2186251
someones been reading the space odyssey series

>> No.2189501

This is called the Fermi Paradox. If advanced races exist, and these races can propagate through our galaxy via self-replicating machines, then why aren't they already here?

I personally lean more towards the Rare Earth explanation of this. There are no advanced races. We're it.

>> No.2189513

>>2189501
http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=960265

>> No.2189516

>>2189513
I think that we should keep fapping