/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.2143863]

So I don't know much about politics. Could someone explain democrats, republicans and syndicalists to me?

[Anonymous No.2143870]

the concept of relative evil is more in the realm of philosophy than science

[Anonymous No.2143876]

>>2143870

But there's no philosophy board.

[Anonymous No.2143878]

choice between a douche and a turd and a retard

[Anonymous No.2143885]

democrats want high taxes to fund programs to pay for people who dont work, republicans want everyone to get a job but hate gays for some reason, never heard of a syndicalists

[Anonymous No.2143887]

democrats - liberal party
republicans - conservative party

That's all I need to understand politics.

[Anonymous No.2143888]

>>2143885

Ok, well, thanks, anything else?

[Anonymous No.2143893]

>>2143885
syndicalists get their tenure and then lie, do the fuck they want, troll the world and be adored by pseudo-intellectuals.

[Anonymous No.2143895]

>>2143887

Thank you.

[Anonymous No.2143898]

Democrats are socially moderate, fiscally liberal corporatists.

Republicans are sociall conservative, fiscally liberal corporatists.

Syndicalists want unions to run everything.

[Anonymous No.2143905]

It's all BS and lies meant to get you in office; once there every president ever has been a mix of democrat/republican.

That being said,

In the traditional sense Republicans support small government, minimal regulation, and just general freedom from any hand hovering over you. However, the past couple of decades have seen them turn into big spending, regulation enforcing, god obsessive hypocrits.

Democrats in the traditional sense are liberal with spending, support government intervention, and spend a lot of commonwealth in the public space. The past couple of decades however have seen them turn into spineless pussies who grovel at the knees of anyone that opposes them.

I personally, am a Libertarian. Yeah my party is worthless, and 90% of them are partially insane; but they support my views. Government regulation only where necessary (our food, our water, our roads, our justice system, etc. are all needed); and otherwise freedom as long as your actions are not harming others. Libertarians = new Republicans. Republicans = new Democrats. Tea Party = new fucking batshit crazy.

[Anonymous No.2143940]

>>2143905

And progressivism?

[Anonymous No.2143970]

Republicans are religious, anti-intellectual nutjobs who are opposed to homosexuality, abortion and teaching evolution.

[Anonymous No.2143976]

>>2143970

AND PROGRESSIVISM?

[Anonymous No.2144005]

Left and Right are simply a distraction from what is actually happening.
The world is slowly being taken over by an elitist group and transformed into a tyrannical plutarchy. Our freedoms, liberties, and hopes and dreams are being snatched away from us under our very noses.

Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

It is lengthy but there is a lot to politics.

[Anonymous No.2144016]

It doesn't matter, because once you arrive at the correct political opinion, you'll realize that voting is pointless and the only answer is global revolutionary people's war.

[Anonymous No.2144037]

just follow scotus

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/11/03/judges-say-the-funniest-things/

It has been rendered the solemn duty of the Supreme Court of the United States, laid upon it by Congress in pursuance of the Federal Government's power "[t]o regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States," U. S. Const., Art. I, § 8, cl. 3, to decide What Is Golf. I am sure that the Framers of the Constitution, aware of the 1457 edict of King James II of Scotland prohibiting golf because it interfered with the practice of archery, fully expected that sooner or later the paths of golf and government, the law and the links, would once again cross, and that the judges of this august Court would some day have to wrestle with that age-old jurisprudential question, for which their years of study in the law have so well prepared them: Is someone riding around a golf course from shot to shot really a golfer? The answer, we learn, is yes. The Court ultimately concludes, and it will henceforth be the Law of the Land, that walking is not a "fundamental" aspect of golf."

~Scalia

[Anonymous No.2144056]

Republicans are hardcore neo-liberals
Democrats are hardcore neo-liberals who have taken economics.

[Anonymous No.2144076]

I think it's funny, our bi-partisan system broke - completely - about 20 or so years ago.

Yet we don't ever stop and fix it......

[Anonymous No.2144082]

>>2144005
That comic is disingenuous. In North Korea, Orwell's vision of a totalitarian dictatorship has come true. Same goes for the long period of time in which the USSR was in power. Both are right, but they apply in different countries.

[Anonymous No.2144094]

>>2144082
The US is slowly becoming a police state. Orwell and Huxley were both right, but in varying degrees. All countries nowadays in this New World Order have elements of both dystopias.

[Anonymous No.2144106]

>>2144094
>slowly
Keep thinking that.

[Anonymous No.2144109]

>>2144037
European here.

I just heard about your Supreme Court unbanning firearms in DC and Chicago.

WTF is wrong with America?

[Anonymous No.2144116]

>>2144109
The country has become hijacked by bankers.

[Anonymous No.2144119]

>>2143940
>>2143976
He basically shoved libertarianism and progressivism into one category,
Libertarianism is basicaly atlas shrugged bullshit, it doesn't include anything like utilities health care, government intervention and the like. Libertarianism is straight 'old school liberalism as practiced by capitalists'
Union busting assholes that want freedom, but not economic and labor freedom.

as an activist political ideology, I'm for heavy government intrusion into the economic sphere because there has been no cases where the economic sphere has ever been self regulating, anyone bitching about government intrusion in economics is obviously a moron that needs to leave the country for a dictatorship because the only reason government interventionism in the economic sphere could ever cause a problem is if the masses hold a delusion that the government in fact does not dance to their own desires. These people should not be in a democratic society anyway.

Socialism is honestly far stronger a motivation than capitalism for our country these days, Capitalism and the prospects of higher pay for better work break down after you progress beyond mechanical labor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

[Anonymous No.2144131]

>>2144119
Socialism is gay. I want to feel the bones of thew weak break beneath my boot.

[Anonymous No.2144134]

>>2144119

Thanks. I'm not American, though.

[Anonymous No.2144141]

>>2144106
OK, good point. The country is more or less a police state.

[Anonymous No.2144138]

>>2144131
cant develop or grow stronger if you let the weak act as your anchor

[Anonymous No.2144157]

Does anybody know about Peronism?

[Anonymous No.2144158]

>>2144131
cool. are you a multi-millionaire?

no?

then I get to crush your bones.
excellent...

[Anonymous No.2144185]

>>2144158
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7oZ9yWqO4

[Anonymous No.2144247]

>>2144185
about 2 minutes in he starts spouting bullshit, the brain, not inhibited by social constructs? hahahaha what a moron.

[Anonymous No.2144281]

So what does bother most Randhaters? Was it that she was used as a publishing experiment, her anti-totalitarianism, or individualism or was it objectivism? Or a combination of those things? Or was it that she was skipping sammich duty?

[Anonymous No.2144287]

>>2144119
Union busting?
Do you actually know what libertarianism is?
Union busting is government intervention, corporatism. True libertarians support the right to collective bargaining- if you pay me shit wages, I can quit and warn others.
Lrn2Rothbard you poor dumb fuck.

[Anonymous No.2144310]

>>2144281

her "philosophy" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. She is trying to apply pure and perfect "logic" to humans, and humans, not being perfect, are totally incompatible with the bullshit she preached. Also, if you read about her life you can tell that she didn't practice what she preached

and her books are poorly written. scratch that, her books are SHIT.

[Anonymous No.2144317]

>>2144287
no, union busting was done by corporations and lobbyists dumb ass. has been and till this day it is how almost all rights are overturned. by people with heeps of cash to push people in the direction they like, and as long as important decisions are left to the economic sphere alone, the people with that capital will have the power to take it over, No one will give a shit about your shit wages, after they bust your ass and buy out other businesses you can either work for them or die on the street.

[Anonymous No.2144326]

>>2144310
>>perfect logic.
no such thing dumbass, logic is formed from assumptions. you cant get anywhere unless you make at least basic assumptions, so its useless to say 'theyre applying logic oh noes' what kind of logic?

[Anonymous No.2144345]

>>2144317
Union busting was when corporations lobbied the government or paid government agents to use violence to force people back to work. In a few instances private use of force happened, but under a true libertarian system, that would get those involved jailed, because private use of force is more commonly spelled "assault." You should read a book before forming your weird half-notions of history and politics.

[Anonymous No.2144361]

>>2144345
>>hurr youre right
>>but youre still wrong hurr
yeah no, its not forcing people to work, its ANY activity designed to break apart a trade union and most of them did not involve pointing a gun at the group and telling them back to work.

[Anonymous No.2144702]

>>2144109

The police protect you from criminals, but who protects you from the police? Nobody. That is why guns.

Go read a book called "More guns less crime"

Then continue to act superior as hooligans beat up your grandmother and you cannot shoot some fuck for breaking into your house and raping your sister.

[Anonymous No.2144733]

>>2144702
the problem with this is simply the fact that a dislike of guns and the general lack of teaching how to use them generally results in more crime. I'm all for more gun regulation. although everyone should have the right to bear arms, you should have to show you are a sane, stable, capable person that can keep use and maintain fire arms safely.

[Anonymous No.2144785]

>>2144733

But that's a far cry from banning guns altogether. I blame the logical mistake that thinks correlation equals causation.

[Anonymous No.2144834]

Anarcho-Syndicalism for the win

Only form of classless society that worked in the real world (see anarchist catalonia)