/sci/ - Science & Math

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134283]

Dumping some data, /sci/.

ITT: How do we educate America? A democracy relies upon an intelligent, informed and educated public. If the public at large is not as described as above, democracy crumbles, literally under the weight of stupidity.

Case in point: if a representative thinks the earth is 4.55 byo, the universe 13.7 byo and thinks evolution works without assistance from a god, most of the American public will not vote for this candidate. Instead they will vote for one who mirrors their ideas, and hence will make laws that reflect it.

To quote Carl Sagan:

"We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology."

"We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces."

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134293]

>>2134283

Education achieved and support of evolution. As education increases, so does support for the theory.

Support for evolution is also reflect via political ideology.
A non-fundamentalist liberal with a high school degree is just as likely to support evolutionary theory as a non-fundamentalist conservative with a graduate degree.

This pic:

The US has low support for evolutionary theory, with more responses of "definitely false" than any other country.

[Anonymous No.2134300]

Pop science.

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134301]

Most Americans do not know that an electron is smaller than an atom.

Other data are in the pic.

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134308]

60% of the public think scientists agree that humans have evolved.

The correct percentage is 97%.

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134322]

97% of scientists think humans have evolved.

Only 60% of the public think that scientists agree on this.

[Anonymous No.2134327]

Get better high school teachers. Stop focusing education on careers. Provide financial support to children whose families are unwilling to support them throughout school. Don't spend such an absurd amount of funds on sports. Don't reward schools for passing a lot of students, that's just fucking retarded. A fucking national curriculum.

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134330]

Scientists support climate change more than the public. Most scientists think CC is a very serious or somewhat serious problem, a view the public does not share.

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134344]

Religion clearly affects support of evolution. The American public, whose religiosity is unnaturally high, is also very fundamentalist and thinks religion better explains biodiversity than biology.

[Anonymous No.2134353]

Require teaching of human evolution in school.

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134355]

The American public does not support nuclear power, stem cell research, or vaccinations as much as the scientific community.

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134365]

A large percentage of the American public embraces creationism, something only 2% of scientists support.

[Anonymous No.2134374]

We live in a society exquisitely dependent on farming, in which hardly anyone knows anything about farming.

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134379]

The up and coming generation (18-29) is less scientifically savvy than the generation before it.

This is a problem: the soon to be ruling generation is not as literate scientifically as the generation to pass.

[Anonymous No.2134387]

Dude Archive this thread.

Also >>2134327
>Don't reward schools for passing a lot of students
You can thank the discovery institute for that BS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorum_Amendment

[Anonymous No.2134388]

in nz, state schools are required to teach evolution in biology, christian teachers and whatnot (my biology teacher was a catholic, she sucked at teaching, but still had to do it)

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134394]

When asked why they don't support evolution, the top response was "I believe in Jesus Christ".

Keep in mind this was an open-ended question, with the responder free to answer anything.

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134398]

Amalgamated data for belief in evolution from >>2134293.


The US falls behind only Turkey in support of evolution.

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134407]

Not related to education.

The scientific community is vastly more liberal than the public.

[Anonymous No.2134410]

>>2134388
The official doctrine of the Catholic church is in favor of evolution. Catholics believe in papal infallibility. It was a Catholic priest who developed the Big Bang theory, for example. If she called herself a Catholic, she was probably mistaken.

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134418]

As education and income raises, so does support for science (science being more beneficial than deleterious)

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134423]

Climate change is divided by political party and ideology.

[Anonymous No.2134428]

climate change is caused by PUDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIII

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134430]

Ironically, conservatives feel science and religion are not in conflict. They are, however, more likely to reject biological science, often sourcing their faith.

[Anonymous No.2134432]

Religion classes. Show them how arbitrary and meaningless their family religion is so they'll disregard it and accept science.

[Anonymous No.2134439]

>>2134327
this. I also think we should start chemistry and physics in middle school rather than high school so kids will have a better foundation in it.

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134440]

Well, /sci/ I am out of graphs relevant to the thread.

I doubt anyone will discuss this much-- most of /sci/ is high schoolers and undergrads with autism, busy playing WoW or some other game.

[Anonymous No.2134458]

If its any consolation, as awesome a movie Idiocracy was, it won't come into being. Money controls power. And the intelligent are more wealthy.

[Anonymous No.2134459]

"most of /sci/ is high schoolers and undergrads with autism, busy playing WoW or some other game." - Charles Darwin

[Anonymous No.2134463]

>>2134458

The wealthy actively ally with the retards to preserve their power. And retards breed more.

[Anonymous No.2134471]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE

semi-related

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134491]

>>2134471

This made me very sad.

[Anonymous No.2134506]

OP is a fucking tripfag faggot. Seriously gtfo.

[Bob the Nailer !!t9g68k2KJqe No.2134512]

Any source on these charts?

I find some of them a little difficult to believe...

[Anonymous No.2134517]

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO QUOTE CARL SAGAN

"PASS THE BONG, MAN"

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134519]

>>2134506

It's good to see that you can formulate a sentence that is usable outside of 4chan.

And pic related.

[Charles !DARwiN.Ixs No.2134525]

>>2134512

Certainly.

The sources are:

http://people-press.org/report/?pageid=1546
http://www.gallup.com/poll/27847/Majority-Republicans-Doubt-Theory-Evolution.aspx

For the intro pic, the website is included in this pic.

[Anonymous No.2134558]

>>2134471
id be the first to admit that i wasn't entirely sure about all the questions they had, but the day i mistake france for australia and correct myself only to mistake N. korea for australia is the day I have no more desire to live.

[Anonymous No.2134582]

Educating a country is about making kids interested in knowledge. Its that simple. Its not about what you introduce when. Its not about how much money you spend on your schools. Just look at the myth and the culture of the countries.

Although the American founding fathers were brilliant and many were scholars, they most remembered for a Christmas-morning ambush, for war. The idols of today can sing, can sink a basket. And children are among the least educated in the OECD.

In contrast, the Canadian Fathers of Confederation are known for wit and tact in negotiating independence. Kids grow up with David Suzuki as an idol - and in fact, as an environmental activist, he's not even well respected by angst filled youths and the counter-culture. The dominant form of domestically-produced entertainment is political satire; a pillar of their national identity, even.

Is it any surprise that they ended up with a measurably superior education system? Despite spending a fraction the money.

[Anonymous No.2134610]

>>2134582
Anonymous might have a point: do we want to have stupid kids, or do we want to be as boring as Canada?

[Anonymous No.2134665]

>>2134610
Dear America: KEEP BEING AWESOME.