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2114388 No.2114388 [Reply] [Original]

is pie even or odd

>> No.2114400

Finish grade 9 math and get back to us.
>hint: irrational

>> No.2114407

is OP a fag or a faggot?

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>>2114388
>>2114400
doubles

>> No.2114439

>>2114410
btw thats OC

>> No.2114451

What the first loser meant was: even and odd only apply to whole numbers, ie 1,2,3,4,5...etc. Pi=3.1415926535...etc. Pi is a decimal number, therefore not of the set of whole numbers to begin with, and secondly, the decimal values are non-repeating so no final whole value for pi can be made from a base ten counting system.

>> No.2114484

is -1 odd?

is -2 even?

>> No.2114488 [DELETED] 

>>2114388
>>2114451
I believe <span class="math">pi[/spoiler] is even if we extend the notion of even and odd to irrational numbers. Consider the unit circle. It's circumference on an asymptotically flat plane is given as <span class="math">2\pi[/spoiler], it is also the zero point of the unit circle. Zero is even. I'm pretty sure that you could use that to prove that the digit of pi at infinity would have to be an even number.

>> No.2114495

>>2114488
did you just say zero is even? amongst incoherent nonsense? slap yourself.

>> No.2114498

well, if the definition of even is divisible by two with no remainder, then yes, -1 is odd and -2 is even.

>> No.2114504 [DELETED] 

>>2114388
>>2114451
I believe <span class="math">\pi[/spoiler] is even if we extend the notion of even and odd to irrational numbers. Consider the unit circle. It's circumference on an asymptotically flat plane is given as <span class="math">2\pi[/spoiler], it is also the zero point of the unit circle. Zero is even. I'm pretty sure that you could use that to prove that the least significant digit of pi at infinity would have to be an even number.

even * even = even
even * odd = even
odd * odd = odd

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>>2114388
>>2114451
I believe <span class="math">\pi[/spoiler] is even if we extend the notion of even and odd to irrational numbers. Consider the unit circle. It's circumference on an asymptotically flat plane (Euclidean circle) is given as <span class="math">2 \pi[/spoiler], it is also the zero point of the unit circle. Zero is even. I'm pretty sure that you could use that to prove that the least significant digit of pi at infinity would have to be an even number.

even * even = even
even * odd = even
odd * odd = odd

For those who doubt zero is even, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parity_of_zero
Zero is an even number. In other words, its parity—the quality of an integer being even or odd—is even. Zero fits the definition of "even number": it is an integer multiple of 2. As a result, zero exhibits the properties shared by all even numbers: 0 is evenly divisible by 2, 0 is surrounded on both sides by odd integers, 0 is the sum of an integer with itself, and 0 objects can be split into two equal groups. Zero fits into the rules for sums and products of even numbers, such as even − even = even, so any alternate definition of "even number" would still need to include zero. Within the even numbers, zero plays a central role: it is the identity element of the group of even integers, and it is the starting case from which other even natural numbers are recursively generated. Every integer divides 0, including each power of 2; in this sense, 0 is the "most even" number of all.

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>>2114388
>>2114451
I believe <span class="math">\pi[/spoiler] is even if we extend the notion of even and odd to irrational numbers. Consider the unit circle. It's circumference on an asymptotically flat plane (Euclidean circle) is given as <span class="math">2 \pi[/spoiler], it is also the zero point of the unit circle. Zero is even. I'm pretty sure that you could use that to prove that the least significant digit of <span class="math">\pi[/spoiler] at infinity would have to be an even number.

even * even = even
even * odd = even
odd * odd = odd

For those who doubt zero is even, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parity_of_zero
Zero is an even number. In other words, its parity—the quality of an integer being even or odd—is even. Zero fits the definition of "even number": it is an integer multiple of 2. As a result, zero exhibits the properties shared by all even numbers: 0 is evenly divisible by 2, 0 is surrounded on both sides by odd integers, 0 is the sum of an integer with itself, and 0 objects can be split into two equal groups. Zero fits into the rules for sums and products of even numbers, such as even − even = even, so any alternate definition of "even number" would still need to include zero. Within the even numbers, zero plays a central role: it is the identity element of the group of even integers, and it is the starting case from which other even natural numbers are recursively generated. Every integer divides 0, including each power of 2; in this sense, 0 is the "most even" number of all.

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>>2114545
Thoughts regarding extending the notion of parity to include irrationals: if the least significant digit of the number is even the number is even.
Intuitive basis for the conjecture: 0, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14...
It's a simple property of any even integer that the least significant digit is even.

Also, typo correction.
>it is also the zero point of the unit circle
>it is also *a* zero point of the unit circle

>> No.2114696

>>2114545
The main problem with proving the evenness of pi is the fact that it's a transcendental number.
>>2114388
The problem with proving the evenness of pie is the fact that it's a baked good. Assuming no typo was made.

>> No.2115234

>>2114696
/thread

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>>2115234
/thread