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2108040 No.2108040 [Reply] [Original]

people keep saying pedophiles are a minority but nobody really knows how many there are. the only thing we have right now is secrecy (people who are pedos in secret) and speculation (people guessing how many pedos there are)

suppose that pedophilia is attraction to underaged girls under 16.

what do YOU think is the % of the male population who are pedos?

if there were no restrictions and no political correctness, what would be a good way of testing each male for pedophiliac tendencies, to determine how many pedos there are in the community?

>> No.2108043

I'm a pedo.
I just ignore it, I'm not an animal. I'd never molest a kid. I don't even look at CP.

I hate it how in the media pedophiles = child molesters. We're just people with a sexual attraction to people it would be immoral to do anything with. That's bad enough.

>> No.2108044

http://gawker.com/5686953/internet-outrage-gives-amazon-pedophilia-guide-a-101000+percent-sales-boos
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>> No.2108046

what exactly is known about these...PDF files.

>> No.2108048

>>2108043
I wouldn't call myself a pedo, but yeah my mind sometimes wanders onto such things.
I hate the idea of thoughtcrime, pedophilia itself shouldn't be an issue unless it's likely to lead to molestation.

>> No.2108049

Pedophilia is being attracted to undeveloped girls. There are many 15 year olds that are devloped. Be attracted to them is not pedophilia, though it is still legally and socially wrong.

>> No.2108050

pedophilia means you are attracted to prepubescent girls/boys, the age at which puberty begins varies between individuals usually, puberty begins between 10-13. officially being a pedophile means being attracted to girls/ boys under 12, not 16.

>> No.2108051

What we call pedophilia used to be called wooing your future wife.
I think most people probably have thought sexually about someone under 16 at least once. It's just not something you're allowed to talk about. It's the great moral panic of our era.

>> No.2108054 [DELETED] 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't sexual development the determining characteristic of pedophilia? I'm pretty sure I'm not a pedophile because pictures of little girls do nothing at all for me, but there are definitely underage girls with hips and tits that I find attractive. I do believe in a legal minimum age to prevent predators from having legal access to young girls, but at the same time I feel that it's legislation, not biology.

In other words, I think most jailbait isn't pedophilia, although I understand why it's illegal. Being attracted to undeveloped, prepubescents is pedophilia.

>> No.2108055

>>2108049
>Be attracted to them is not pedophilia, though it is still legally and socially wrong.

See this attitude is what I hate. Since when do I have control over what I'm attracted to? How can it be "wrong" that I am attracted to certain things? This reminds me of homosexuality all over again.

I'm not stupid, I know it would be immoral to act on my impulses, and I never would. But calling the attraction itself immoral is completely unfair.

>> No.2108057

Honestly?

I believe almost all straight men would fall under your definition of pedophiles.

>> No.2108060

Your definition of pedophilia is absurd. Once a girl hits puberty she becomes attractive to males. And why wouldn't it be this way? Think about what puberty means.

>> No.2108063

>>2108055

Yeah, it's like telling people who are into vore
"You're disgusting! I can't believe that you want to eat people, you monster!"

It's just a sex fantasy. Some sex fantasies are achievable, some aren't. Vore isn't achievable for obvious reasons, and pedophilia would be immoral to achieve.

>> No.2108064

Sure is pedophiles in here.

But seriously guys it's a biological thing. Men are attracted to women, and a woman is defined by the age of her puberty.

I'm definately not defending it though, the laws are very important for the well-being of these minors. Just because their body is fully developed doesn't mean their brain has.

>> No.2108067

>>2108064
>Just because their body is fully developed doesn't mean their brain has.

This isn't so much a discussion between whether it's right or wrong, but whether it's common.

>> No.2108069

>>2108064
>Just because their body is fully developed doesn't mean their brain has.

You know what else is absurd? That a magic number on their birth certificate decides when it has.

And you know what is really retarded? The fact that in the US the age for driving a car is lower than the age of consent. That means that it takes less maturity to risk yours and everybody else's life than it takes to fuck. Great going, America.

>> No.2108071

>>2108067
Yes, I just didn't want to send the message that I was defending pedophilia though

>> No.2108073

>>2108067
>This isn't so much a discussion between whether it's right or wrong, but whether it's common.

yeah i think this discussion is becoming offtopic. the main issue is simply, how many pedos do you think there are, as a percentage of the male population?

if u dont like my pedophilia definition, make up your own before you guess how many pedos there are.

>> No.2108075

>>2108071
See, this is stupid. Everybody is scared shitless that something they say might brand them as a pedophile.

>> No.2108078

>>2108069
>magic number

Well, it's a good average. It's not practical to setup doctor appointments to tell you when you've officially become a woman for a number of reasons.

>> No.2108080

>>2108073
teh definition of pedophillia is being attracted to undeveloped children

>> No.2108081

>>2108075
How is this stupid? I don't give a shit what somebody thinks of me, I'm doing this because true pedophilia is absolutely atrocious.

>> No.2108082

real pedos are indeed a minority, ephebophiles however...

>> No.2108083

>>2108081
>How is this stupid? I don't give a shit what somebody thinks of me

would you give a shit what people might think of you, if you were a pedophile?

>> No.2108086

>>2108083
Probably not, but I can't say for sure. I know it would be very frustrating though.

>> No.2108090

Every white male is a pedo

>> No.2108093

post sum cheese pizza!

>> No.2108096

>>2108090
>implying asians are better on that subject

>> No.2108097

>>2108090

what about japanese males? they're the ones who popularized the term lolicon and they also worship youthful beauty through the junior idol industry.

i think white males and japanese males arent so different. the only difference is one is more honest about their lust for young pretty girls.

>> No.2108105

>>2108097
not to mention artificial sexual selection for neoteny traits

eastern Asian women are like 4 breeds: Mongolic, Indo-chinese, Indonesian and Japanese rorisu

inb4 Thailand but it's the exact opposite of Japan were 30 yo old women look like 3 yo girls

>> No.2108107

>>2108105
>inb4 Thailand but it's the exact opposite of Japan were 30 yo old women look like 3 yo girls

ive never heard of such as phenomenon. i thought 30 year old thai women look like 15 year old boys? or was that 30 year old men look like 15 yaer old girls

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2108108

Ok then every white male and every japanese male are pedo, now post sum!
>>2108105
>>2108097
>>2108096

>> No.2108115

its very tricky,

also can only guys be pedos?

id say a high rate, like 16 year olds don't magically stop being attracted to 15 year olds the day they turn....

you could use the cockring test and pictures of underage children (not naked of course) to see if the subject gets excited i believe they still do this, but i dont know how they rule out a reaction formation.

could anyone answer that?

>> No.2108123

>>2108107
it's a bit complicated : \

one thing is for sure... sex trafficking there is so intense that you have to be really hairy and fat to feel (relatively) safe that you won't end up as the litle girl after a few rounds of beer

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>>2108123
>sex trafficking there is so intense that you have to be really hairy and fat to feel (relatively) safe that you won't end up as the litle girl
travel agent detected!

>> No.2108138

>>2108040
Simple OP, just count how many Jew males are on earth then you'll have a rough estimate

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2108141

/b/tard here.
I have only seen like 5-6 person who are really pedophiles irl.
So they must be in really small number.
Or may be those guys are just too stupid to hide thier impression.

>> No.2108146

am i a pedo if i fapped to OP's image?

>> No.2108154

I'd say below 1%, op

I personally find little children fucking repulsive

>> No.2108156
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2108156

Why are people so confused as to the definition of the word pedophile?

>> No.2108157

>>2108146
>am i a pedo if i fapped to OP's image?

those crotches were certainlly under 15 years old, yes,

>> No.2108161

>>2108146
I have 80Mb more If you want.

And yes, you are a pedo if you want.

>> No.2108162

>>2108123
Allright, that does it.

I'm moving to Thailand.

>> No.2108164

>>2108154
>I personally find little children fucking repulsivees,

ALL of them? when u go to the mall, surely there'd be at least 1 10 year old girl in skimpy clothes that you might consider fucking?

girls are growing fast these days.

>> No.2108170

>>2108161
Upload it somewhere, faggot.

>> No.2108172

>>2108170
The link is still on onions man, if you know what I mean.

>> No.2108173

>>2108164
this, shit thanks to all those hormones in chicken ,milk and who knows what else. 10yr olds are sporting almost 36C's ffs...you see boob and your like 'it's awwwwright' then you see their face and it's like 'oh shit when's hansen gonna show up?'

>> No.2108175

>>2108161

Post some more on here.

>> No.2108184

>>2108172
I don't know what do you mean, you pedo. Just post the link.

>> No.2108196

there are more scientist pedophiles than i thought.

then again it shouldnt be surprising, there are "doctor pedo" child porn and there are also stories about real life doctors having access to young girls legally (examining their vagina etc)

lucky bastards!

>> No.2108202

>>2108196
And let's not forget about Doctor Dix Poppas, a real God among men.

>> No.2108207

>>2108184

It means you need at least 7 proxies to get the link, or you'll get v&

>> No.2108215

>>2108207
In Soviet Russia, you v& the feds.

>> No.2108252

>suppose that pedophilia is attraction to underaged girls under 16.

couldn't you try to avoid redefining words to suit your purposes, please? there's enough of this shit going on already

>> No.2108295

As a 20-something year old female with big hips, etc., I say to all the 30-50 year old men out there who gawk at 15 year olds with perky breasts in tight tank tops and short shorts this: it's perfectly natural to find these females sexually appealing and you're NOT a pedophile. An attractive female who is sexually developed is an attractive female regardless of how old she is. I was fully developed by the time I was 11 years old. Many older men found me attractive back then and some had no idea how young I was. Would it be wrong for them to still find me attractive if they knew I was 11? No, of course not.

Most of the people calling themselves pedophiles in this thread are probably ephebophiles, which, despite shows like To Catch The Predator who try to convince most Americans that a 33 year old wanting to have sex with an attractive 15 year old is wrong and evil, is--again--perfectly natural. Younger generally means healthier and more fertile/sterile. It makes evolutionary sense.

>> No.2108296

And some guys just like thin women. That doesn't make them pedophiles.

As for actual pedophiles, being a pedophile doesn't mean you're a child molester. Child molesters are sexual opportunists; they'll rape just about any vulnerable person. I think there's a genetic predisposition for pedophilia; they can't help their attraction. However, I think adults having sex with very young children is "wrong" because their brains aren't similarly developed and this can lead to unintentional manipulation, confusion, and possible psychological damage.

Children are easy to manipulate (even unintentionally), they may not know they have a choice in the matter ("Will Steve still be my friend if I don't let him touch me down there?"), and they can't clearly articulating how they feel and why they feel that way. How do you really know 5 year old Lolita is able to understand the consequences of her/your actions when you touch her down there, that she knows she's free to say no at any time? It's dangerous territory.

I'll agree that maybe our society's attitude exacerbates the damage by making a big deal out of intergenerational sex and making our children victims when they otherwise wouldn't feel that way. Some children might even grow up physically and emotionally intact from such an experience and consider it a part of their sexual exploration, but I still believe in an ideal pedophilic society some children would grow up feeling like they didn't have a choice. They might look back on the event and feel exploited by the relationship because the adult didn't understand she was appeasing and compliant because she was scared--of losing his/her friendship, or some other reason. That's too much of a risk in my opinion.

>> No.2108297

>>2108295
>I am a woman

No you are not. Even if you are one, why announce it? Because you're a fucking attention whore?

>> No.2108316

>>2108297
Yes, and because people automatically assume women wouldn't say the things I said in my posts.

>> No.2108333

>>2108297

l2troll

>> No.2108334

>>2108296
>they can't clearly _articulate_ how they feel and why they feel that way.

Apparently I can't either.

>> No.2108393

I'd like to also point out one very strange factoid: Did you know women get physically aroused watching bonobos fuck? Isn't that disgusting? Those bestiality-loving whores should all go to hell!

In all seriousness, maybe the men who found the OP's picture arousing found it arousing for the same reason the women found the bonobo porn arousing. Because it's sexually suggestive and leaves a lot to the imagination. It doesn't mean you want to actually fuck under 14 year olds, or that women want to fuck bonobos.

I'm only speculating though. Maybe you do.

>> No.2108410

>>2108296
>you can manipulate little children

this is such fucking bullshit, i manipulate full grown women every fucking time i'm at a bar/party/trying to get laid. Women are dumb, i'm smart. I manipulate them to have sex with me because i'm not very attractive.

This is a horrible argument and you should feel bad.

>> No.2108428

wtfamidoinginthisthread.jpg

>> No.2108459

>>2108295
>>2108296
>>2108393

thanks for your thoughts on this matter, anon-woman.

i study and have pedophilia arguments on the internet often and i notice that women, despite being stereotyped as emotional creatures, are often more level-headed and rational when offering their opinions on pedophilia. or at least the ones who identify themselves as female.

its always the men who are loud and violent-sounding when pedos are involved. i wouldn't be surprised if these are the same men who are against abortion.

i agree with most of your three posts.

>How do you really know 5 year old Lolita is able to understand the consequences of her/your actions when you touch her down there, that she knows she's free to say no at any time? It's dangerous territory.

well that's the question isnt it.

if 5 year old lolita doesnt understand, how about 6? 7? 8? 9? 10? 11? 12? ill touch her down there as early as possible.

>I'm only speculating though. Maybe you do.

yes, in fact, i do want to fuck girls under 14 years old. i'm not saying i will, but i want to.

>> No.2108465

>>2108410
There are adults you can easily manipulate, but there should be no disagreement that a child with a undeveloped prefrontal cortex on average would be easier to manipulate than some random Joe/Jane you picked up from the street. At the very least the women you meet at the bar are there to fuck and are able to tell you what they want and don't want. They know to _try_ to figure out if the average man of average intelligence is trying to manipulate them, sometimes unsuccessfully. Most adult women know it's a possibility. Children usually do not because they're normally very trusting unless you give them a reason not to be.

Also, these full grown women are usually drunk, aren't they? Doesn't that affect their judgment?

I'm willing to admit I made a horrible argument, but you have yet to explain why beyond using drunk women at a bar as an example. You can do better than that.

>> No.2108484

>>2108465
>Hi
>who the fuck are you?
>i'm a rich successful lawyer
>lets fuck
>yes.

>> No.2108499

>>2108459
>if 5 year old lolita doesnt understand, how about 6? 7? 8? 9? 10? 11? 12?

I honestly can't answer this question. If anything, I'm going to sort of destroy one of my own arguments by mentioning the prefrontal cortex isn't fully developed until we're 23 or so years old (correct me if I'm wrong). Does that mean our young soldiers shouldn't go to war until they're 23? Why is it they can fight for their country at 17/18 and not drink a beer until they're 21?

The world is unfortunately not as black and white as we humans want it to be.

Thank you for sharing your perspective, pedo-anon.

>> No.2108503

I sometimes I worry I might be a paedophile or a hebephile.
>suppose that pedophilia is attraction to underaged girls under 16.
I'm not attracted to girls and they need to be pre-pubescent to be paedophiles. ~11-14 is a hebephile.

>> No.2108530

Hey OP! If you want a good source instead of the guys posting here give a look at this paper from Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin, The World's Largest Web Site on Human Sexuality

http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/BIB/pedophilia.htm

Don't worry, it is in English

>> No.2108546

>suppose that pedophilia is attraction to underaged >girls under 16.

100%
- 10% of faggots
- 5% asexual
- 5% perverts who have mother issues
------
around 80%

>> No.2108552

/b/tard here. I can't say that CP is my fetish, but over time browsing and downloading some CP for trolling purposes numbs you quite a bit.
And i can fap to some of it while other stuff is just unappealing but not really disgusting.

So like >>2108295 said i might be a ephebophile, but i doubt i would ever hurt a child. If you meet them in person the empathy is quite different compared to some pictures.


Anyway, asking on 4chan about the prevalence of pedophilia will probably result in a skewed image. You could say that many of us are "battle-hardend". /a/nons and /d/eviants have their lolis and guro, /b/tards have their gore and CP threads. You can get used to anything.
So it's not necessarily a fetish but just another type of porn, with the added excitement that it's illegal.

>> No.2108569

>>2108040
>girls under 16.
Are you going by the age of consent? Because that's different in many countries, here it's 14.

>> No.2108572

>>2108546
>implying faggots can't be pedophiles

>> No.2108602

I fap to lolis and animals so I guess I'm even more fucked up. And yeah, I wouldn't have sex with any of the two in real life. What do you call a person that's attract to almost all things sexual? Omniphile? Pansexual? or just a pervert?

>> No.2108613

>>2108602
Oh! So you are the kind of person that fap even to this? http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=615384

Me too!!!

>> No.2108626

>>2108572

OP was correct when in his definition of pedophilia didn't mentioned boys, only girls, since attraction between males is sickness as opposed to attraction between healthy male and young female which is normal

>> No.2108627

People who are attracted to young girls aren't pedophiles.
People who are attracted to little boys are.

>> No.2108640

>>2108499
>not drink a beer until they're 21
in what country are you living , north korea ? china ?

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2108641

OP you do realize that the United States is one the few countries that sets the age of consent to be 18 right?

>> No.2108643

If you're American, you're sitting on 4chan arguing about pedophilia while your grandfather is carving the turkey and your fat sister is eating all the pumpkin pie.

Happy thanksgiving, Amerifags!

No judgment, as I'm obviously here too. I'm just so easily amused...

>> No.2108644

You guys realise that by using CP you are making a demand for it, which means that more CP is made, and the making of CP often harms the child in question. Just because you wouldn't fuck a child does not mean that it's not fucked up to watch CP.

>> No.2108653

Times have changed, but in the end Amerifags are still puritan pilgrims

>> No.2108657

>>2108644
those of us who downloaded CP either got it from certain other imageboards, file hosters or P2P. No money was provided for it. It's more or less publicly available if you just lurk a while on /b/.

The "real" pedos that actually have sex with childdren simply film it for later use and share with other pedos to fill their library.

>> No.2108664

>>2108644
You guys realise that by using pirated music you are making a demand for it, which means that more music is made. So download pirated music helps the music industry?

>> No.2108671

like i said EVERY WHITE MALE IS A PEDOPHILE!
sick fucking whiteys, NAO POST SUM!

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2108673

>>2108641
A pedobear le gusta Mexico
arriva arriva

>> No.2108674

>>2108644
I'm not a pedophile (you won't believe me)... but I imagine some do just fine jacking/jilling off to kids in candid beach pictures. Are the kids being harmed in this situation?

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mfw you'd hit that

>> No.2108684

>>2108673
Its the Caucasian part of the mexicans that make em pedo, their half white half red

>> No.2108687

>>2108530
>criteria for pedophilia
>acted on these sexual urges

Does that include masturbation. If it does then I guess I'm a pedophile. Nonexclusive type though.

>> No.2108689

>>2108681
probably too muscular for most anons, if anything it would end up as reverse rape.

>> No.2108694

>>2108641
My mom told me not to believe in any chart that displays information from NK.

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>>2108671

>> No.2108946

>>2108641
in most states you can do it younger if married. some states as young as 12

>> No.2108967

>>2108569

>here it's 14

I jelly

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>>2108641
>mfw mexico, south america, china, japan, and most of europe has a 12-14 legal age of consent
time to learn a new language

>> No.2109026

>>2108711
You wouldn't happen to know the source of that, would you?

>> No.2109028

>>2109018
Japan's age of consent is 13, but it's illegal to bed a girl under 18. The latter law was introduced in the last decade or so, I believe.

>> No.2109029

lmao, only attractive part of a woman is the tits and ass and kids have neither of those. I don't know why anyone likes them.

>> No.2109040

>>2109029
nice to know a woman with a dick isn't a problem for you

>> No.2109047

>>2109040
dont know where you pulled that out from

dont really care though

>> No.2109052

>>2109047
if you don't know, you must be stupid and half reading what you type yourself
of course you probably never even saw a cunt in real life, so what do you know

>> No.2109054

>>2109052
k, lmao

>> No.2109061

http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm

>It is illegal for an American citizen or resident to have sex in another country with someone aged under 16, unless the age difference is less than 4 years, in which case the minimum age is 12.

sucks for you amerifags

>> No.2109135

there's a study that apparently gave a figure of 20%, based on measuring blood flow to the penis. Personally i think this study is flawed. A slight increase in penile blood flow could just be a side effect of regular oxytocin/vassopressin release (oxytocin is known to induce erection in rats), in effect a symptom of their nurturing tendencies rather than true sexual desire (it's not like we're talking about enough of an increase to cause anything close to a boner here. the effect is tiny afaik).

Normal heterosexuality= some attraction for females of any ovulating age, but with a huge spike for those of simmilar age to yourself. If you deviate from this you are a freak.

I am proud to say i am normal.

>> No.2109151

underage is under 18, not under 16.
Dumbass.

>> No.2109186

>>2109029

You don't know shit about females. Typical American.

>> No.2109190

>>2109135

>derp, if I'm 40, I should be more attracted to a 40 year old woman than a 20 year old woman, or I'm a freak

>> No.2109236

>>2109151
nope

>> No.2109258

>>2109151
depends on the state

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2109282

>suppose that pedophilia is attraction to underaged girls under 16.
Not a very meaningful definition, pic related.

>> No.2109291

>>2109151
herp derp THERE ARE NO OTHER COUNTRIES OTHER THAN MERICA 3ND AMENDMENT ALL BLACKS HAVE MERICAN ACCENTS DERP

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2109295

>>2109282

It sure isn't. Commencing dump.

>> No.2109296

>>2109135
So being attracted to a 20 year old when you are 30 is abnormal now?

What the Christ are you smoking? Furthermore, where can i get some?

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She's 11.

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2109372

I fap to loli as much as the next /a/non but the actual number of real pedophiles in the population is extremely small.

Most of us would probably sleep with a 14 year old girl If we could get away with it but thats more ebebophilia, and chances are the 14-16 year old girls are having sex with their similarly aged boyfriends anyway, what difference does it make?

tl;dr
I wouldn't have sex with a child, thats disgusting, but a teenager is fine too.

>> No.2109383

>>2109372
>Pedophilia thread
>Forget I'm not on /a/

derp

>> No.2109389

>>2109372
What about this one:
>>2109313

Would you fuck 11 years old, or 10, if they were pubescent? Even that isn't pedophilia, bros.

>> No.2109401

>>2109389
If I knew they were 10 or 11, no. I'd probably question their mental capacity to consent while properly understanding the consequences. Though that might sound like an old-fashioned way of putting things thats my thoughts on it.

Though if I met some small DFC woman in her twenties, I'd probably hit that if possible.

>> No.2109406

>>2108644
>I download CP for trolling purposes
Christ, how delusional do you have to be to actually believe that? Just admit to yourself that you're a pedo already. No one would be dumb enough to download shit that could put you away for 10 years and completely ruin your life forever just for lulz, much less continue to repost it on a site that has a history of reporting such users to the FBI.

>> No.2109417

>>2109401

This is an interesting point many people seem to bring up, and is indeed the whole issue. What is "age of consent," how can we determine it? It should be obvious to all the people here that no strict age can be determined, so what qualities should a person posses that would make them "able to consent" and why are those qualities necessary?

>> No.2109421

>>2109372
I remember hearing about a psych study once that took a bunch of college aged guys and asked them that, if there was no chance of getting caught, if they would masturbate to child porn or have sex with a child. 20% said they would.

I think that figure is too high though. From what I've seen reported in most psych literature on the subject (what very little there is) the prevalence of pedophilia is something like 1% of the population (thus making it as common as schizophrenia and a slew of other mental disorders) of which 90% are males and 10% are females. 60% are attracted to girls, 40% to boys. The most common age that pedophiles attracted to girls prefer is 8 years old, for boys it's 10.

This is all going by the scientific/clinical definition of pedophilia mind you which limits "pedophile" to a person who is attracted to prepubescent children older than 3 years old (so an age range of about 3-11 years old).

>> No.2109449

to answer OP, [aedphilia is < 10. Ephebophilia is 14+, Hebephilia 11+

ephebophilia-------
Because most late adolescents have physical characteristics near (or in other cases, identical) to that of full-grown adults, some level of sexual attraction to persons in the age group is common among adults of all sexual orientations.
Ephebophilia is not listed by name as a mental disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition, Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR), or the ICD-10, nor is it listed as a paraphilia. This is as opposed to pedophilia, which is categorized as a specific disorder in those systems with its own diagnostic criteria.

Hebephilia ---
Debate is ongoing over whether hebephilia is a mental disorder

anyone who denies being attracted to jailbait is lying to themselves. its perfectly natural.

as to whether 11-14 is normal or not... its a grey area subject to debate.

>> No.2109453

forgot the wiki links,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia

"In 2008, Ray Blanchard was the lead author of an influential paper proposing the introduction of hebephilia in the DSM-5.[6] The paper, coauthored mostly with colleagues from CAMH and the University of Toronto, triggered a number of reactions, many of them critical on the basis that it pathologizes reproductively valid behavior in order to uphold current social and legal standards."

so its an emotionally charged area

>> No.2109466

>>2108040
On a somewhat related note--well, sort of anyway.

I think a certain percentage of humans are defective so you will see 'counter' behavior like this in a certain percentage of our population.

Yes, I said defective. What does that mean? It means lots of things but part of it translates to some people having an innate tendency to behave contrary to the way they are 'supposed to' behave based on some common principles that are pretty well accepted which are: we survive to spread our genes (individually) or of our species. And this pretty much seems to be true to all living organisms, not just humans.

In the case of pedophilia, sexual interest in children; it is quite apparent that most children are not sexually mature enough to procreate and although we all have a conscious choice whether to 'have' children or not,our innate function to perpetuate the species, or in the most individual state-spread our genes, makes it the "norm" to choose to mate with females/males who are mature, at the very least.

So, you might ask--well then why isn't ok to mate with, let's say a 12 year old who has started her menses, for example? Well, in addition to humans having instinctual drives they also learn based on their actual experiences, which forms a 'learned intelligence', so to speak.

Perhaps thousands of years ago it was determined by our ancestors that females who mated too early often died in child birth (something to do with non-fully formed birthing pelvis), or perhaps were too young to take on the excessive responsibility leading to a 'social' custom based on that history and on the general populace consensus.

Pedophiles are defective and are dangerous if they can't control themselves.

Also, important to not that not all "defective" humans are dangerous. You can argue that, let's say gay people can be labeled "defective" by the same standards written above but are they dangerous to children? I would say no, as I'm sure most agree.

>> No.2109470

>>2109466
>Perhaps thousands of years ago it was determined by our ancestors

You're fucking stupid.

>> No.2109476

>>2109470
You are clearly unintelligent if your only response is an insult. Learn to communicate with others via written form.

Also, if you don't understand what I meant by that comment--although there was more to it than that so actually reading the whole thing might have helped--then just simply ask a question, child.

>> No.2109483

>>2108641
That map is a lie.

>> No.2109493

>>2109476
"Some thousand years ago" the greeks were fucking little boys in the ass, some hundred years ago Mohammed had a 9 year old wife. Pedophilia never was a real issue until MAYBE some few hundred years ago. Thirty years ago CP magazines were being sold freely at the kiosk.

p.s. HURR DURR I IS INTELLIGANT, YOU CLEARLY IS NO MATCH FOR ME

>> No.2109495

>>2109406
>assuming that i don't know about truecrypt
>assuming that i don't know tunnels
>assuming that i live in the US

Try again.

>> No.2109525

I wouldn't call myself a pedophile, because that somehow suggests it's a predominant paraphilia in my life. I'm attracted to certain children and teenagers of both genders, but I don't act on it and I don't give it much thought.

So, occasionally attracted to children? Yes. Pedophilia? Depends on your definition.

>> No.2109552

>>2108040
Just because the Cult leaders (yeah I said cult) utilized their powerful positions to push their defective behavior so that they could go about their business untethered, doesn't mean it was the norm. The "people" were clearly disgusted by these acts and the incestual/podophelic 'reigns' did not last long. Quit exagerating about that and your arguing ability because nothing you said discounts what I said.

You can't name 2 abnormal examples, albeit of well-known historic figures and say that it was the norm thousands of years ago because there are no records that it was.

>> No.2109553

I like children. Little girls have such nice legs, and little boys are so damn cute and molestable.

I can't see myself actually touching them, though. Or even watching CP. It's gross.

>> No.2109569

I used to have STRONG pedo tendencies, but since I had a daughter I'm completely grossed out by the idea, even if she isn't even old enough for past-me.

I know being a pedo doesn't necessarily mean being attracted to your own daughter, but ever since she was born my penis doesn't react to ANY child whatsoever. I'm not sure why, maybe I project my father instincts on them or something.

>> No.2109643

Sometimes I wonder if, in another society where sex is considered something as natural as eating, if non-intercourse sexual contact (ie - oral) with children could be considered morally acceptable.

I don't see why not. There are pretty much no consequences.

>> No.2109686

>>2109493
>Thirty years ago CP magazines were being sold freely at the kiosk.

I have a hard time imaging that CP was ever sold anywhere other than the black market in America. Even if it was, I'm sure it didn't have naked kids in it much less hardcore sex acts, but probably just the erotica type of stuff that you see in Japanese child idol magazines.

>> No.2109696

I assume you pedofags are /jp/ophiles who moved to /g/ and then came here, right?

Well, I think pedophilia can be trained, at first you find it gross, and then you don't care, then you actually look at it for longer, start to fap, etc.

I think those are the lolicons, finding underage girls sexually attractive and fapping to them. And then there are the psycho/sociopaths with pedophile tedencies, they fuck children because it's easy to do that, also they don't give a fuck if the children likes it or not.

And then there are the real pedophiles who actually love children, I think there are some actual people who actually fell in love with a little girl, a real 'pedophilia'. Or just love little girls so much that they want to care about them and not use them for sex toys.

>> No.2109773

>>2109686
Hardcore cp stuff was sold publicly (well as public as any other adult videos) up until the late '80s in north America and as late as '99-02 for japan. For the past 100 years or so pedophilia has had a stigma attached to it but it didn't become outright illegal until recently.

>> No.2109780

>>2109773
>recently

Its mostly when it became wildly popular on the internet and alot of people started actually complaining about it

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2109814

>mfw /sci/ is full of pedos

>> No.2109854

>>2109814

deal with it

>> No.2109870

>>2109814
>he doesn't know that 4chan is full of pedos

laughinglolis.jpg

>> No.2110882

>>2108711
Sauce for this?

She looks like a well-educated and delicious loli.

>> No.2110902

The future of neurology is scanning subjects for a history of pedophilic desire to punish and re-educate accordingly.

>> No.2110912

>>2109814
hasn't it been been established time and again that every /sci/on is a homo(or bi-)sexual socialist pedophile atheist

>> No.2110924

they have tests for this and they use it if someone is accused of something even remotely pedo

they wrap an electrode or piezo type thing around someones dick and show them a bunch of pictures and if your dick tends to move when pics of little kids come up you are assumed pedo and treated as such

>> No.2112187

Electrodes on my dick?

Sounds fun, bro.

>> No.2112189

<16
Yes.
Under 12.
Maybe not.