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>> No.2079264

not really. It's hard to apply the scientific method to ideas.

>> No.2079268

>>2079261
No, it's not. However, before the Renaissance/Enlightenment, philosophy encompassed what was called the natural sciences.

>> No.2079284

Yes. Science is the observation of reality through empirical truth, and thought is part of reality. Just think of philosophy as part of the theory of neuroscience.

and

>>2079264

>herp derp scientific method

>> No.2079290

Philosophy is the study of the structures under which the sciences operate.

Science is a subset of philosophy.

>> No.2079298

Philosophy is what happens when you can't prove or test a hypothesis

>> No.2079299
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2079299

>>2079264
>It's hard to apply the scientific method to ideas.

lolwut. Whitehead's Process and Reality did a good job of it...

>> No.2079305

>>2079290

It's these kinds of people that think math is an invention

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>>2079305

>> No.2079334

No, but who cares? I'm not scared of the non-sciences, and I feel that there are some classes in the philosophy curriculum that should be mandatory for ALL students, formal logic/critical thinking/whatever your school calls it, chief among them.

>> No.2079335

>>2079305

You fail. Hard.

It's precisely because one can postulate an objective structure to the universe that one could even consider math to be a discovery, rather than a mere construction.

Learn to read and to reason, child.

>> No.2079336

>>2079305
Math IS an invention.

>> No.2079382

>>2079336
Invented by sand niggers

>> No.2079393

>>2079336

Mathematics is our attempt to systematize various objective qualities in the universe. When we say that math isn't an invention, we aren't referring to the field of study, obviously. We are referring to said objective qualities in-themselves.

In that regard, we discover math, not invent it.

>> No.2079398

Math is an abstraction!

>> No.2079408

>>2079398

As a system of thought, sure. But the properties it attempts to describe exist independent of the ability to abstract.

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2079411

How can philosophy be a science if it's just applied THC?

>> No.2079413

Yes, just like engineering.

>> No.2079416

Math is a big pretend-game. It's bullshit, just like astrology.

>> No.2079424

>>2079408
>exist independent of the ability to abstract.
Zero
∴
Your argument is invalid

>> No.2079428

>>2079335

Mathematical observations exist in the absence of postulation, child. You would not be here if it weren't for that fact.

>> No.2079432

Science would have never been discovered if philosophy didn't exist.

Thus science relies on philosophy, not the other way around.

>> No.2079438

>>2079424
  π
π  π

π force.

>> No.2079478

>>2079424
>implying absence isn't a property of the universe.

>> No.2079485

>>2079478

>implying you know what absence means

>> No.2079493

>>2079478
"absence" is a very disputed and difficult philosophical concept. In fact, not only philosophically, but scientifically as well.

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2079509

throwing some religion and more descartes into the mix

>> No.2079537

>>2079261
Science is a philosophy. Not all philosophies are science. Thank you - come again.

>> No.2079549

>>2079305
Well, I might use the word invention for math. At the very least, math is definitely not discovered.

>> No.2079556

>>2079537

And religion is attempting to create philosophy without reason. You twat.

>> No.2079552

>>2079322
ew, more boobs than my gf...

>> No.2079564

>>2079509
>>2079556
religion created maths
you know, jesus died for your sins
there could not be math without him...

>> No.2079566

>>2079556
>you twat
What? How are we disagreeing bro? I missed something.

>> No.2079572
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2079572

with the power of differential calculus let me present you my homosexual doubles

>> No.2079580

hey guys did you see the last ben 10?

>> No.2079583

>>2079580
thats more like ben GAY

>> No.2079589

Yes, and eating cornflakes and religion too.

>> No.2079592

>>2079566

My point was that your argument just stated ill-contrived facts without using any form of reason and is therefore as faulty as religion.

>> No.2079599

>>2079592
To be clear, first post in the thread. Second, I think I used the right definitions of the words. Third, either way that is no reason to liken me to religious people dude. That hurts.

>> No.2079642

>>2079583
oh god mah balls