>My face when hardly anybody I know is aware of the current model of the Universe I mean, okay, I don't expect everybody to know EVERYTHING, but standards need to be set. Many people don't even seem to know what the fuck a galaxy is. Stars? Not a damn clue. I mean, fuck. People just don't care, man.

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Anonymous Sat Nov 13 10:47:44 2010 No.2046979 [Reply] [Original]

>My face when hardly anybody I know is aware of the current model of the Universe

I mean, okay, I don't expect everybody to know EVERYTHING, but standards need to be set. Many people don't even seem to know what the fuck a galaxy is. Stars? Not a damn clue.

I mean, fuck.

People just don't care, man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 10:49:44 2010 No.2046987 most people don't care about what is beyond the realm of their local neighborhood. I feel we are losing our curiosity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 10:49:44 2010 No.2046988 a star is like a really famous celebrity, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 10:49:44 2010 No.2046991 Who the fuck are you hanging out with?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 10:51:44 2010 No.2046998 >>2046987 Most people HISTORICALLY never even LEFT their local neighborhood. Traveling 5 miles out of town? MAYBE for a special occasion. Only a small portion of humanity ever had the lust for exploration, and only a small portion even well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 10:51:44 2010 No.2046999 What do they gain if they know these things? For mother fucking trivias and shits. They can't even apply those IRL unless they're doing sciences. Deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 10:51:44 2010 No.2047000 File: 14 KB, 150x226, 1280393945891.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2046987 Sad, and true. Nobody cares about space anymore. Well, a small percentage of the modern world do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 10:51:44 2010 No.2047002 It's fucking miracles and magic, that's what it is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 10:52:44 2010 No.2047006 people here are not willing to look up anything they think they know that's why they're so autistic

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 10:53:44 2010 No.2047008 >>2046999 Understandable. However, basics should be common knowledge.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 10:53:44 2010 No.2047011 >>2047006 The human species in general... Or just /sci/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 10:55:44 2010 No.2047015 >>2046979 My university level astronomy class started with what scientific notation is. >mfw.jpg

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 10:59:44 2010 No.2047023 >>2047015 Seriously? Like... seriously seriously? That shit should've been learned in the 6th grade and having to teach it wastes the time of learning shit that's important.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:00:44 2010 No.2047027 Completly agree with OP, it's just kind of sad. >mfw i'm on /sci/ and have no idea how i came here

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:02:44 2010 No.2047034 >>2047027 God wills it

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:04:33 2010 No.2047037 >Many people don't even seem to know what the fuck a galaxy is. Wut? Aren't a bit exaggerating?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:05:44 2010 No.2047038 >Many people don't even seem to know what the fuck a galaxy is. Wut? Aren't you exaggerating a bit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:06:44 2010 No.2047042 File: 94 KB, 399x388, displeased toad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2047037 OP here. And no, I'm really not. Feels bad man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:07:44 2010 No.2047044 >>2047042 Was meant for: >>2047038

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:07:44 2010 No.2047051

>>2046999
This statement epitomizes the issue. Human beings survive by intelligence.

People who make inane statements like why do I need to know this demonstrate the failure of our education systems. You do not need a reason to learn anything. This is the same principle that drives governments to ask scientists what the practical use of their work is.
As if the massively overwhelming examples of beneficial products that result from scientific progress are not enough.

Essentially, the more the general populace knows about what science has discovered, the more we see random people creating new and useful ideas and generating more scientific progress.
The ideal situation would be that all of humanity were scientists in their spare time. That's much preferable to the masses being decades behind current knowledge and spending their time vegging out in front of MTV.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:09:44 2010 No.2047056 >>2047000 China and India care. They are in a bit of a race to build a base on the moon and get mining rights. :D This pleases me. I may go work for them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:10:44 2010 No.2047058 File: 3 KB, 208x208, 1274680576014.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2047056 They... are?? I DEMAND SAUCE.

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:13:44 2010 No.2047067

>>2047051
That statement is too biased.
Some people just don't give a fuck because it won't make any difference. They're cooking burgers at McDonalds and thinking shits about galaxies and ohlolbigbang will just be another way of them wasting time. Even if they know those things, it's very unlikely that they can create anything productive from that knowledge, unless as stated above, they're into science.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:13:44 2010 No.2047068 Shut the fuck up, seriously you live in a free society. That means you have the right to be a complete lecher and waste of skin. Stop complaining or go somewhere else. In the end nature will determine who is left.

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:14:44 2010 No.2047070

>>2047058
Here is a brief bit:

http://news.wikinut.com/The-21st-Century-s-New-Space-Race%3A-The-Race-for-the-Moon-Base./-pl3o3j_/

I saw a different one on /sci/ a few days ago that talked more in depth about the contention between China and India and really focused on China's intent to get mining rights one day.
I'm still looking for that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:16:44 2010 No.2047076 >>2047067 to be into science is to be into knowledge some people do get interested when you explain how stuff works, but it never occurs to them to look anything up themselves maybe a concentration issue

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:16:44 2010 No.2047077 Here's more: http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/22/181737.shtml >Ouyang repeated his view that the moon could provide energy and resources for Earth. "Whoever first conquers the moon will benefit first," he told Whitehouse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:17:44 2010 No.2047080 Most people think our solar system is the galaxy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:17:44 2010 No.2047081 >>2047056 Ten bucks say the first person to revisit the moon is either Indian or Chinese.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:19:44 2010 No.2047086 File: 132 KB, 250x250, 1275187938721.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2047080 >>2047080 >>2047080 >>2047080 >>2047080 >>2047080 THIS. WHY /SCI/, WHY.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:19:44 2010 No.2047087 >>2047076 or maybe they just don't give a fuck

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:22:44 2010 No.2047092

>>2047068
Your statement is rife with internal conflict.

If a free society entitles individuals to be leeches then why do you believe nature will determine who is left?
By your definition, the society will carry the leeches on.

>>2047067
Does it give you pause to consider that they may be flipping burgers because they did not care to learn?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:22:44 2010 No.2047094 I'm only a GCSE student and I find it really disappointing how barely 3 lessons of physics is devoted to Space when Space is so fucking awesome... I Fucking Love SPACEEEE!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:24:44 2010 No.2047100 >>2047080 No srsly, source please. I can't believe that level of ignorance is still widespread, especially among the young adults.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:31:44 2010 No.2047114 >>2047086 >>2047100 Go around and talk to people. Ask them what our solar system is called. They'll say the Milky Way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:38:44 2010 No.2047123 >>2047114 Your claim has a more broad scope than that. did you find a survey or poll somewhere which indicates this misconception on a broad sample group?

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:39:44 2010 No.2047125

nobody gives a shit.

a pro athlete or a tv celebrity, or a movie star or any shit like that have no idea what is the solar system and yet they make in a month what you (knowing these things) will make in your entire life.

so why should the general population care about this type of knowledge? if most of the successful, rich and famous people out there have no understanding of this basic scientific stuff why would anyone besides a scientist or a kid who enjoys science care?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:43:44 2010 No.2047133 Who cares, you probably don't even know what the benchmark model is yourself.

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 11:51:44 2010 No.2047149

>>2047125
Your lack of understanding is exactly why you should care. If you only knew the statistical likelihood of becoming famous versus getting good pay to something interesting you would not need to ask this question.
This is true for the general populace as well. Additionally, if people were more educated, Hollywood stars would not be so well paid. It's a matter of the society's priorities.
Would you rather live in a society where learning and honest work get rewarded or one where luck of the draw makes you rich and famous and everyone else works for shit?
We are somewhere in the middle but leaning on the wrong side atm.
Furthermore, look at the top richest people, they are not Hollywood stars. The richest people in this society are well educated in their field and decently educated in general.
Inb4 bill gates dropped out. He was well educated enough to know that he didn't need a piece of paper to make is goals happen.

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 12:02:44 2010 No.2047180

>>2047123
You're really blowing this out of proportion. In my experience, many people seem to believe that our solar system IS the galaxy, as evidenced by their belief that our solar system is called the Milky Way and their knowledge that the Milky Way is the galaxy we live in.

Happy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 12:07:44 2010 No.2047189 >>2047180 Absolutely. Arbitrarily broad statements are a potential issue in common language. In my experience, such statements encourage listeners to create superficial stereotypes and biases that may not actually have any support.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 12:16:44 2010 No.2047216 File: 13 KB, 410x240, morpheus sit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2047189 Welcome to the desert of the real.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 12:28:44 2010 No.2047255 Wait, does our solar system have a name? Or is it simply the Solar System?

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 12:35:44 2010 No.2047271

I am completely on track with you OP. While my social interaction with others is limited and superficial, the few opportunities I've had to discuss things with some few quickly reveal they are mostly ignorant and careless about the universe they live in. I by no means say that our social sphere of influence is meaningless and useless, but currently we live in a society (in the United Stadian sense) in which good looks and popularity at all levels of discourse, determine the amount of emphasis any particular subject gets.

It's a sad reality and one that I myself do not know how to even propose to fix. On a side note, I feel I'm one of the few people who bothers looking at the stars in a clear night sky, to the extend that I've noticed some weird looks from people who happen to stand by.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 12:39:44 2010 No.2047286 >>2047271 There is nothing to "fix". Nature will figure itself out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 12:47:44 2010 No.2047306 >>2047255 >>2047255 Segmentum Solar

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 12:48:44 2010 No.2047310 >>2047306 That makes me moist.

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 13:09:44 2010 No.2047367

>>2047286
Yea, in the form of those with a mind for science going to another planet as fast as possible, solving aging and creating a technological singularity leaving the religious nuts on earth to get wiped out by a meteor or nuke each other in the next religious war.
For the time being, however, we need these people to keep funding science and we need to train as many budding scientists as we can to come with us to space.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 13:13:44 2010 No.2047380 >>2047310 >>2047306 srsly tho, no it's just the solar system.

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 13:13:44 2010 No.2047382

>>2047367
I was mostly saying we live in a very free society, so it's their choice not to be educated, and i find it funny when people think they are light years ahead in intelligence when everyone is a mental infant to what will come. Don't get me wrong stupid people suck I just think there is some room for healthy humility.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 13:14:44 2010 No.2047383 >>2047380 I'm calling it that from now on. Just like I call Earth Terra, and homo sapiens Terrans.

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 13:18:44 2010 No.2047391

>>2047382
No doubt, but the point of this thread is that people should know that very basics. Agree/Disagree

I cannot speak for everyone else but I personally am humbled before the vastness of that which I do not know.
What surprises me is the attitude of those who do not even realize how much they don't know and therefore do not realize the value of learning.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 13:20:44 2010 No.2047400 >>2047391 I just say fuck it, nature will catch up with us one day. Its evolution. I'm not against what you are saying I just figure it's a waste when we could be focusing on other things.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 13:20:44 2010 No.2047402 >>2047383 The sun is solaris or sol and the moon luna then? I'm okay with this. Those names have a more grandiose ring to them, it think it may foster a greater respect for the objects themselves, even if only due to unfamiliarity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 13:22:44 2010 No.2047407 >>2047402 Yeah it is a little bit of pretentious bull shit on my part, but I prefer those names. I like them to have a bit of elegance and flair.

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 13:24:44 2010 No.2047419

>>2047400
A necessary waste then since knowledge evolves through learning. If we don't put forth the effort to teach then the masses will, in fact, continue to fall behind. And they have quite a ways to fall before they cannot even use the technology to survive and procreate so natural selection is no savior there.
It seems to me we have no choice but to continue this wasteful back and forth on education and the value of science until the public reaches a point where the average person is aware of how little know and begins to value learning.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 13:29:44 2010 No.2047436 >>2047419 We only need a few really smart trans-humans. I just think it would be a better use of time to work on science and technology.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 13:33:44 2010 No.2047451 >>2047436 I'll concede to that but I hold that the waste will continue until the trans-humans are created.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 13:34:44 2010 No.2047456 >>2047451 Nah man, there only need be a few people work on it. You don't have to live in this society.

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 13:41:44 2010 No.2047474

my ex-girlfriend didnt understand how the solar system worked...i mean what the fuck was she doing all through primary school.

conversation in the car one day while i was rambling on about the universe thinking she understood
>so where are the planets in the universe?
>lol (thought she was joking) oh wait you are serious
>yes, i mean, do we even know?
>......
>well?
>they move in a roughly circular orbit around the sun....have you ever seen a picture of them with circles traced all the way around the sun.
>yes, but i thought that was just a representation of what we thought could happen
>are you serious, haha (seriously thought she was trolling me)
>stop laughing at me, just because i dont find that stupid stuff interesting.

needless to say that got me thinking i should break up with her

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 13:50:44 2010 No.2047501

>>2047474
I think you need to try again.
>planets in the UNIVERSE
you answered around the sun.

miss-communication # 1
She said universe, you thought solar system.
There are likely planets around most stars.

miss-communication # 2
You said around the sun, have you seen the circles?
she thought sun=stars as in all stars have planets orbiting them like the sun does.
You emphasized that the planets are mapped she thought you meant planets around other stars have been mapped and responded that she was under the impression that scientists only postulated that other stars had planets like the sun does.

Just another intrepretation of what may have happened there. I think you may have had preconceived notions about her level of intelligence that lead to a misunderstanding there.
Take it as you will.

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 19:19:44 2010 No.2048930
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>>2047474

>my ex-girlfriend didnt understand how the solar system worked

I hear that. My CURRENT girlfriend didn't know what the fuck the Solar System was.

It's a good thing she puts out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 19:21:44 2010 No.2048936 File: 389 KB, 159x124, 1273483035045.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2048930 Annnnnd spoilers don't work on /sci/ God damn it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 19:48:44 2010 No.2049051 File: 103 KB, 1680x1050, M101.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is a Galaxy.

>>	Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. Sat Nov 13 19:51:44 2010 No.2049064 File: 249 KB, 1073x962, TechnocraticRepublicofSciscreenshot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Many of these people had the same dreams you do, before they were crushed by today's reality. Change is coming.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 19:54:44 2010 No.2049076 ITT: virginity and world of warcraft players, enjoy your faggotry

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Nov 13 19:54:44 2010 No.2049078 File: 127 KB, 1024x768, 1289092400240.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The whole of /sci/: Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 19:56:44 2010 No.2049085 >>2049064 Are you sure Australia doesn't mind us just, you know, taking a massive chunk of land?

>>	Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. Sat Nov 13 19:56:44 2010 No.2049087 File: 1.75 MB, 1512x1018, 1286035736382.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2049078

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 19:56:44 2010 No.2049088 File: 15 KB, 614x604, 1288509447309.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2049076 You sure told us.

>>	Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. Sat Nov 13 19:57:44 2010 No.2049090 File: 146 KB, 496x384, 1289126668239.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2049085 What I will offer will make them love me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 19:58:44 2010 No.2049097 File: 22 KB, 364x344, 1288254033820.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2049078 Quite.

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Nov 13 19:58:44 2010 No.2049100 File: 64 KB, 472x362, furever alone holding pic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2049087

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:01:44 2010 No.2049110 my astrophysics lecturer sent me a video where they interviewed harvard graduates and asked them what caused the seasons. 80% of them didn't know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:02:44 2010 No.2049118 >>2049085 Like we care about Tasmania.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:04:44 2010 No.2049133 >>2049090 Inurdaes, you're a pretty cool guy, but you have no idea how hard it would be to sell something like that. Historically speaking, people are resistant to any significant change, no matter how much it improves their lives.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:04:44 2010 No.2049135 >>2049110 Once I was debating with this Creationist, and he claimed that the workings of our Earth seasons is just a "theory". God, man. I ain't gotta explain shit.

Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. Sat Nov 13 20:04:44 2010 No.2049136
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>>2049118
This is what I'm playing on. The area I included has less than 15,000 people that could be relocated or given the option of dual-citizenship with free travel across Australian/TRS borders.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:05:44 2010 No.2049140 >>2049064 5/19/13

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:05:44 2010 No.2049142 http://www.youtube (dot) com/watch?v=DutJLb-c0vs You rage you lose.

>>	Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. Sat Nov 13 20:05:44 2010 No.2049143 File: 69 KB, 325x324, transhumanDPp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2049133 Oh no, the improvement in lifestyle has never seen before.

>>	Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. Sat Nov 13 20:06:44 2010 No.2049150 >>2049140 Actually closer to 2035.

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:09:44 2010 No.2049168
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I'm a physics major, so you would think most of the people in my classes are pretty damn sensible. However, even they are pretty damn... er, well, I suppose I'll just tell you what happened.

Physicists are more likely than the average population to be atheists, probably because they actually know how the world works instead of chalking everything up to magic. And, as one would expect, a good portion of my physics major friends are atheists. However, the other day I was rushing to get my thermodynamics homework in and someone brought up evolution. One guy, a damn decent programmer but a devout Christian shut in with proven psychological disorders (nice guy though), makes a remark about his doubts on evolution and looks at me, as me and him went on for about an hour last year about evolution. I say "last year I would have loved to spend an hour discussing this stuff with you [insert name], but I'm taking 17 credit hours so I just don't have the time". So he leaves. There are a bunch of other physics majors around, two of which I know are Christians and another who I have no idea. The topic continues for a minute, and wouldn't you know both Christians display doubt about evolution. They don't outright say they don't believe in evolution, but they say stuff like "I don't know, some things about evolution don't make sense to me... like how cingle celled things can become multicellular". Cringing at this, I couldn't help but explain to them how it could have happened and the modern day examples of the steps life too such as colonies of amoebas taking on special tasks in the larger organism.

I don't get it. I don't remember any sort of brainwashing when I went to my Lutheran elementary school or church, and yet it seems everyone else thinks to be a Christian one is required to take shots at science. If I have to put up with things like this in a physics department I can't imagine what "lower tier" majors are like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:11:44 2010 No.2049174 >>2049168 *single

Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Nov 13 20:11:44 2010 No.2049175
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>>2049133

Those who have vision can come in, those who don't, well, those are the masses of terminally future-shocked luddites that will drag the Singularity down to a crawl, and there will be no Singularity, and with time there will be no Century of Wonders, no Golden Hour, no America, no cities, no people, because of Conservatives who think they can barricade themselves with old ideas pretending the Universe is still and motionless and doesn't change.

To quote Pellegrino,

"So we named our rocket Valkyrie, after the beautiful Norse maidens who, in the shape of eagles, descended to snatch up the souls of the brave killed in war, carrying them heavenward, to Valhalla, the legendary Hall of Odin. If Earthly sapience cannot live up to its name, if we are foolish enough to ascend beyond Earth orbit with our old ways of thinking still intact, if we move to the march of tribal drumbeats, then surely the souls of the brave will fly up with Odin's eagles, for we shall all be killed in war. We carry with us, in our rocket's name, a chilling and timely reminder: Chose the wrong path, and we are, every one of us, flying to Valhalla."

-- Charles Pellegrino, afterword of Flying to Valhalla

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:13:44 2010 No.2049182

>>2049168
The trick is to not pretend that we're 100% sure of that being the answer, but remind them that it's just the best answer we have so far. Also, mention that it would be far more amazing for God to have spent billions of years making them, rather than waving his wizard wand 6000 years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:17:44 2010 No.2049204 >>2049175 I thought you didn't think the singularity was a thing? Or are you a nanotech > AI guy?

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Nov 13 20:19:44 2010 No.2049213 File: 573 KB, 2560x2048, fineMotionUL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2049204 Yes I'm the nanotech > AI guy.

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:26:44 2010 No.2049245

My whole neighborhood lost power yesterday for about an hour. This was at around 9pm so it was fucking crazy dark outside. Everybody walked out of their house complaining and bitching while I was in my backyard laying down, it was the first time in a long time I had seen more than 3 stars in the sky...

I can't wait to move away from everyone.

;~;

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:31:44 2010 No.2049268
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>>2049182
I'm pretty damn sure all but the programmer one aren't creationists so there really isn't much to argue about. The thing is not too long ago I realized I've become a lot less... "aggressively informative" when it comes to ignorance tied to religion. In fact I sometimes feel a pang of shame coming out of some conversations because I may ventured too close to be downright apologetic for being an atheist. I had excepted a very good portion of the nation is Christian and most of which have what they see as very good reasons for their belief albeit not all too logically coherent reasons. But this latest scientific "blasphemy" not only hit home in that it was coming from fellow physics majors and it drove the idea into my mind that to be even the slightest bit religious one leaves themselves open to wide range of absurd notions. I mean, if these people didn't accept single celled organisms can evolve into multicellular organisms then they have either throughout the book on the history of the universe or they believe life simply *POOF*ed into existence on this rock... as if it Earth's surface was a barren world complete with a rock zoo, an ocean, and another rock zoo and then in front of the eyes of onlooking aliens a big cloud of smoke enveloped the world and viola, life, as if it were some parlor trick.

I don't want to dwell on this despite my long post, I just wanted to write it all out. This is probably going to be some sort of existential formative event for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:33:44 2010 No.2049284 >>2049213 You do realize that AI would facilitate much quicker gains in nano-tech research right?

>>	Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Nov 13 20:36:44 2010 No.2049296 File: 612 KB, 2560x2048, fineMotionUL2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2049284 If we could make posthuman level intelligences, sure. But we won't. Not in this century.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:44:44 2010 No.2049325 >>2049296 You're right, sadly. Although we will see men on Mars! Uhhh what other major achievements are possible for the next sixty or so years?

Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q Sat Nov 13 20:46:44 2010 No.2049339
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>>2049325

Oh gee I dunno, molecular nanotechnology and molecular assemblers/"Nanofactories" revolutionizing human civilization, roughly three or four decades into the future?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 20:47:44 2010 No.2049343 >>2049325 I'm keen for decent prosthetic limbs, and also for people to let go of the idea that they need to be identical to what we have now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 21:16:44 2010 No.2049476 >>2049150 I'm fucking lost, what happens 2035?

>>	fizx !d75etXAowg Sat Nov 13 21:22:44 2010 No.2049505 >>2049339 Oh, I see coffee mug... Isn't it hypocritical of you to rag on singularityfags and then turn around and spout on about how candy and rainbows nanotechnology will be?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 21:26:44 2010 No.2049533 >>2049505 Jesus Christ, let it go. What good is arguing about it going to do? You each hold opposing viewpoints that won't be changed by yelling at each other online. Just chill.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 21:26:44 2010 No.2049535 File: 27 KB, 475x359, 1276263649631.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >My thread is still alive on the front page This pleases me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 21:40:44 2010 No.2049591 >>2049535 AND NOW I'VE JINXED IT.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 21:42:44 2010 No.2049601 File: 28 KB, 377x636, 1263096405014.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2049591 You fucker ;___;

Anonymous Sat Nov 13 21:43:44 2010 No.2049604

so what to most people it is irrelevant and they dont need to know anything about anything outside of their world.

how the fuck is knowing what a galaxy is going to help a builder, politician, writer etc (although there are some obvious replies, e.g. a writer writing about outer space, or a new galaxy. but they dont need to know)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 21:44:44 2010 No.2049613 >>2047474 >they move in a roughly circular orbit around the sun It sounds like you don't know how the solar system works either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 21:45:44 2010 No.2049618 >>2046979 This kind of thing depresses me too.

>>	fizx !d75etXAowg Sat Nov 13 21:46:44 2010 No.2049620 >>2049533 Opposite nothing. I don't hold any view on the matter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 21:56:44 2010 No.2049670 >>2049136 So I'm still lost, what's supposed to happen in 2035. Stealing land, and then what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 13 22:12:44 2010 No.2049747 >>2049613 I think he oversimplified on purpose to make it a bit easier for her to understand.

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