/sci/ - Science & Math

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2043851]

ITT, we discuss IRL trolling/april fools day pranks, share ideas/stories etc.
the moar science related and technical a prank, the better.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2043886]

erm, audiocapped prons and then set the mp3 of the sex noises as my mates startup sound for her laptop.
...booted it up in the library...fucking lol'd, she quickly closed the laptop and promptly left...we laughed about it later tho...

[Anonymous No.2043891]

>>2043851 april fools day

Surely you are aware the night of skulking is the first sunday of the second month.

[Anonymous No.2043893]

>the moar science related and technical a prank, the better.
>moar

gb2 /b/

[Anonymous No.2043894]

>>2043851
All the chemists at my university said they were now "chrisitan". Spent the rest of the day going around campus spouting bullshit christian rhetoric and getting no work done. It was so fucking funny.

We actually caused a few actual christains to denounce there faith, once they relized how full of shit they were. Feels good man.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2043901]

>>2043893
why would SCIENCE related pranks be appropriate on /b/? secondly, /b/ is shite, and thirdly, im fucking EK, /sci/ is my board bi-atch.
>>2043891
nope, never heard of that...

[Anonymous No.2043902]

>>2043894

[Anonymous No.2043909]

>>2043901
>implying this isnt josef's board.

[Anonymous No.2043911]

What about teaching EK how to fucking spell and capitalize?

Oh wait, it's supposedly a woman....

[Anonymous No.2043926]

>>2043901
>>2043909
Children, children, settle down

We all know this is my board

[Anonymous No.2043933]

>>2043894
u r my hero

[Anonymous No.2043938]

>>2043926

[Anonymous No.2043952]

>>2043894
WIN

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2043953]

who the hell is josef?
oh wait, i think ive seen him...anotehr tripfag yeh?
and lol, i dont need to no how to spell, you can all still understand me perfectly well, so whats the point of wasting time correcting everything? I CAN spell correctly, but this is the internet, so i can text language etc.

[Anonymous No.2043956]

>>2043933
>>2043902
>>2043894
the_samefag__it_hurts.png.tar.bz2.gpg

[Anonymous No.2043960]

wow that is awesome!

[Anonymous No.2043963]

>>2043926
This is Trollface's board

problem, physics dude?

[Anonymous No.2043970]

>>2043901
Zombeh, what did I tell you? What are you doing on MY board again?

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2043979]

come on, lets stay on topic. IRL trollin, go!

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2043985]

>>2043970
aww, come on, this board is big enough for the 2 of us.
and just refer to me as EK here.

[Anonymous No.2043991]

>>2043953
>who the hell is josef?

the only guy on this board who makes correct use of a tripcode

[Physics Guy No.2043994]

>>2043985
Agreed

[Anonymous No.2043995]

>>2043985
Fuck you Zombeh! >:(

[Anonymous No.2043999]

>>2043995
who is Zombeh?

[Anonymous No.2044001]

[Anonymous No.2044005]

>>2043963
someone explain this or I will roll a fair dice exactly three times.

[Physics Guy No.2044011]

>>2043851
Threw liquid nitrogen at highschool fags, shit was highlarious

[Anonymous No.2044014]

>>2043985
First off, I will refer to you as whatever I want. Second off, if I did not refer to you by name, how would you know who you were talking to?

I will leave you alone if and only if you are a model scientist. Study up, you will be tested.

Alternatively, you can drop the trip and identifier, and you can anonymously participate on this board without further harassment from people like myself. Your choice.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044017]

>>2043991
how is mine not 'correct use' ?

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044025]

>>2044014
hmm, u drive a hard bargain...and i would rather like to keep my trip without further harrassment.
very well, you have a deal. what do you need me to do?

[Physics Guy No.2044033]

>>2044005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_paradox

There really is no paradox, as it can easily be resolved using basic SR.

[Anonymous No.2044040]

>>2044033
Its a paradox because the word twin means the same age, not because the physics is at all challenging.

[Anonymous No.2044041]

>>2044025
TITS OF GTFO!

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044055]

>>2044041
lol, like your shithouse nigger opinion matters to anyone here! ROFL

[Anonymous No.2044059]

trollface's paradox

[Anonymous No.2044064]

>>2043953
>you can all still understand me perfectly well

well....

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044066]

oh wow, i just youtubed some pranks, the second half of this vid is awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCbnTkK2LdQ

[Anonymous No.2044069]

>>2044055
So you dont have TITS?

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044073]

>>2043963
>>2044001
>>2044059

for fucks sake this is NOT a troll physics thread!

[Anonymous No.2044075]

>>2044066
Are you a girl or not?

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044081]

>>2044069
yeh i do, but there are more tits in the world than there are people...true story...think about that!

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044087]

>>2044075
yeh, i thought everyone knew that by now.
i still have a sense of humour, i love pranks! what? is that not very femenine?

[Anonymous No.2044095]

>>2044081
haha jokes on you
50% of the population is women therefore there are as many tits as people

[Anonymous No.2044103]

>>2044087
Go away Zombeh.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044108]

>>2044095
jokes on you, split isn't exactly 50.000000000% men to women
us gals outnumber you!... slightly.

[Anonymous No.2044109]

>>2044025
First some advice. Don't identify your gender. It's really not important here. If you're using your trip and identifier to garner personal notoriety and attention, you are a camwhore regardless of your claimed gender.

The following article will help. http://www.cracked.com/article_18536_the-5-biggest-mistakes-women-like-me21-make-internet.html

Next, you need to brush up on logic and argumentation. Your trolling is terrible and needs work. Lrn2reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Fallacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Troll

Remember, when reading ED it's parody and satire. It inhabits the realm of the mirror world. The articles are POV and often written in character, the troll article is a troll. Figure out how and why.

Trolling is an art and the internet has rules. You will learn to become a proper /sci/duck.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044112]

>>2044103
aww, play nice :)

[Anonymous No.2044114]

>>2044108
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.2044118]

>>2044081
>a girl in /sci/

LMAO, Post a pic or shit didnt happen

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044120]

>>2044109
yeh i was never actually attention whoring, i never posted and was like "I am a woman! now hear this! ..."
i think they brought it up first...
anyway, yeh you are right, i wont mention it from now on.
also, thanks for those links, i'll get right on them (I love ED)

...thats 'encyclopedia dramatica' ...not 'irrectile dysfunction' ...i don't love that...

[Anonymous No.2044123]

>>2044114
at birth: 1.07 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.07 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1.02 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.79 male(s)/female
total population: 1.01 male(s)/female (2009 est.)

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/xx.html

Citation provide, now get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.2044125]

>>2044112
who the fuck is zombra?

[Anonymous No.2044140]

Sure is SCIENCE & MATH in here.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044141]

>>2044114
lets try logic shall we?
loads of people die every day, and even more are born every day, do you think it is logical that an EXACT 50:50 ratio would be sustained? that means, per day, at teh start of the day there are EXACTLY as many men as women, and EXACTLY equal deaths between men and women each day, and EXACLY equal births between men and women each day.
... it will be close, but not dead on, never.
so either, there are slightly more men, or slightly more women. and it is women... i'm not sure why...but i'm pretty sure it is.
as an example, lets say i throw 30 coins into the air, on average you woul expect 15 heads and 15 tails, but its quite unlikely for this to actually happen, (bonus points, mathfags work out the probability plx)

[Anonymous No.2044145]

>>2044120
I distinctly recall you specifically asking for people to pay attention to you. When I saw your first post, you identified specifically "I'm a girl." In this thread, you've confirmed you have tits and claimed a definitive gender. The only appropriate response is "TITS or GTFO."

Whether you are conscious of the fact that you are seeking attention or not and regardless of your intentions, you have exhibited camwhore behavior. Your trolling gets n00b sauce all over the place. You know what a party foul is?

Pic related, summary of proper netiquette.

[Anonymous No.2044150]

posting more troll physics since EK fucked up the thread

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044153]

>>2044123
wut? more men?
oh. ok,
>>2044125
*zombeh

[Anonymous No.2044165]

>>2044120
" i was never actually attention whoring"
What bs. Why did you post pics of ZOMGitsCriss whenever you replied as EK, then? If not to attract the eye of passersby, then why? Please, stop lying.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044167]

>>2044145
if so, it was done accidently and wont be happening again.
second, i don't know what a party foul is, and i challenge you to post the meaning of it here in less time than it takes me to ED it...
;)

[Anonymous No.2044180]

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044182]

>>2044150
>EK fucked up the thread
...
ITS MY FUCKING THREAD!! FFFFFUUUU!!

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044194]

>>2044165
as like emotion faces to go with the text...this IS an imageboard. but yeh, i realised its a bad idea, so i stopped doing it.

[Anonymous No.2044195]

Set up a trip wire set up to a paint ball gun's trigger. Set the wire in front of your front door and invite someone over and just yell for them to come in.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044206]

fucking with my mates itunes... you can audiocap speech, and just microphone into the laptop "harriet is a stupid bitch" as like a 5 second long mp3, then save it as like 'long road to ruin - foo fighters' and sync it with her ipod.
then when she's jogging with it on shuffle, randomly between 2 songs will just be me calling her a stupid bitch...hehehehe.

[Anonymous No.2044211]

>>2044194
fucking ek

[Anonymous No.2044213]

>>2044123
That's because that applies to India and China who happen to have slightly more men
But I think the ratio is around 50/50 here in the US
I don't know what leads EK to think there are more women though
If that were the case then women wouldn't feel entitled to everything like if they were a rare commodity.

[Anonymous No.2044220]

EK, you dont have the brains to weight some things.
Threads like this one aren't successful by nature.
Lurk moar attention whore.
inb4 your not.
YOU FUCKING ARE.
I seen you, in every possible chance you will advertise yourself like an attention craving cunt you are.

[Anonymous No.2044221]

>>2044125
who the fuck is zebra?

[Anonymous No.2044227]

>>2044213
You'll note in the statistics, around 65 men start becoming a notable minority. Women live longer on average than men and survive at higher rates.
US statistics:
at birth: 1.047 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.04 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.75 male(s)/female
total population: 0.97 male(s)/female (2010 est.)

[Anonymous No.2044228]

>>2044213
u fucking retard?

[Anonymous No.2044230]

>>2044206
Replace every song in her library with some shit music.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044231]

>>2044213
ah that makes sense... i heard chinks have overpopulation pronlems, and are only allowed 1 baby, and they prefer to have men, for some cultural reason, so if its a girl, sometimes they just garbage dumpster baby it,
it dies,
start again
?????
PROFIT!
... so that woudl explain why there are more men specifically to china, if they are favoured.... but i think in the rest of the world it might be women who are slightly nore common.
and the fuck is this?? we don't feel entitled to everything, and even if we were like a 48% that is hardly a rare commodity.
a wheelbarrow full of 52% coal and 48% diamonds...diamonds wouldn't be so rare then aye?

[Anonymous No.2044240]

>>2044227
>15-64 years: 1 male(s)/female
I'm assuming most of us are younger than 64 and older than 15...
>>2044228
Just saying it like it is bros

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044245]

>>2044230
nah, for a prank to be successful, you don't want something that will cause either harm, or like frustrating irreversible damage of some sort, you just want it to be lulzy, cause confusion or embarrassment, and be a temporary thing, and most importantly, for the victim to see the funny side. if i prank my housemates and do stuff that is too harsh, fairly quickly i wouldn't have any friends left.
so deleting all of a housemates music would just be harsh and not very funny...
>>2044220
lol fuck you, i don't give a shit

[Anonymous No.2044263]

>>2044231
Zombeh, I had heard that you were racist. Bad habit. China does have a population limit law in effect, and they do prefer male children over female because male children can inherit property via union under the law.

However, it creates a problem for their population overall. By the way human reproduction works, if you artificially limit the number of females available, you create cock-blocking competition between females as they strive for the most attractive (read richest, most powerful, social respected) males.

http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/20/is-there-anything-good-about-men-and-other-tricky-que
stions/

40% of all male humans who have ever lived successfully reproduced. 80% of all female humans who have ever lived successfully reproduced. What does that mean for an industrial society?

[Anonymous No.2044266]

>>2044231
>and the fuck is this?? we don't feel entitled to everything
Yes you do
You have the luxury of turning guys down. Most of don't have the luxury of turning girls down. Also we have to do all the effort.
>and even if we were like a 48% that is hardly a rare commodity.
Which is precisely why women make no fucking sense

[Anonymous No.2044268]

>>2044240
0-14 years: 20.2% (male 31,639,127/female 30,305,704)
15-64 years: 67% (male 102,665,043/female 103,129,321)
65 years and over: 12.8% (male 16,901,232/female 22,571,696) (2010 est.)

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html

[Anonymous No.2044271]

wow.

This thread = proof that people with trips are fucking retarded

You are not a girl.
You are horribly immature.
You are stupid.
You are crying for attention on a fucking anonymous SCIENCE board

and seriously STOP POSTING AND GET THE FUCK OUT

SAGE

[Anonymous No.2044283]

>>2044271

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044293]

>>2044266
thats because guys don't mind looking slaggy, you don't get stick for it, girls do, we are supposed to act all innocent and choosey. lol, if you knew some of the discussions we've had...
>Which is precisely why women make no fucking sense
.... 0.1% ..rare
48%...not rare
lern-2-rarity

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044303]

>>2044263
oh no i'm not racist. i didn't mean chink as an offensive word, just a shortened version of 'chinese people' its just slang, and non-offensive. i didn't mean anything by it
honestly, im really not racist at all
and FYI, when i say 'nigger' i don't mean that as offensive against black people, the meaning of that word has changed now...political correctness and all that. i don't dislike black people.

[Anonymous No.2044317]

>>2044293
You're not getting it
I'm saying women are not rare but they act like they are
That's why I said that they make no fucking sense

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044328]

>>2044317
how the fuck do we act like we are rare??
no we fucking don't! you are fucking deluded...

[Anonymous No.2044333]

>>2044303
Racism isn't about whether you hate people of other agricultural varieties. Racism is about how you treat and talk about others. Bigotry is the word your looking for. You exhibit racist behavior by using words which, while not offensive to your senses, would be offensive to the senses of others.

Similar to calling people retarded, gay, or lame. It's disrespectful and it reflects poorly on you.

[Anonymous No.2044334]

>>2044317
I've never met a woman that thinks they are rare. Maybe if she was shiny... maybe...

[Anonymous No.2044342]

>>2044317
In a sense women are rare. The only choose to breed with a small segment of the overall population. Historically by genetic distributions, we can see that 80% of women choose to breed with 40% of men.

[Anonymous No.2044351]

I have the incredible urge to post that this is the worst thread on /sci/ I have ever seen.

I've been here since week 2.

[Anonymous No.2044365]

>>2044351
Man fuck you and your lurking. If you ain't got nothin' to contribute then STFU and GTFO.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044368]

>>2044333
i like the pic
>agricultural
wtf?
erm... yeh ok you have convinced me. so just because i don't mean it offensively, doesn't mean people won't take it that way...they cant read minds etc... kk i shall choose words more carefully from now on. thankyou. ;)
>>2044342
how does that work? i thought people tended to pair off, like husband and wife, and then breed...so you would expect numbers to be the same.
not like 1 husband having 2 wives...that might get the 40% 80% thing... but that doesnt usually happen...maybe with mormons...

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044382]

>>2044351
see
>>2044055

[Anonymous No.2044412]

>>2044342
That makes no sense
But yeah women rather be alone and wait for prince charming apparently

[Anonymous No.2044431]

>>2044368
Wrong. Your view of historical breeding patterns is blind to the reality. Marriage as between one man and one woman is a modern construct mainly pioneered and enforced by puritanical Christianity.

Even with that, it's an open question at current as to what degree cuckolding, cheating, and brood parasitism contribute to the breeding pool. It's estimated that as many as 1/3 of all children born in the US are in fact "the milkman's".

http://www.jstor.org/pss/40166720
http://www.livescience.com/culture/adultery-website-infidelity-what-women-men-want-101027.html
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/evolutionary-psychology/
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/139/139613_women_lie_cheat_and_steal.html

What it comes down to is that exclusive pair-bonding aren't the prevalent mating strategies employed by homo sapien sapien globally or historically.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044443]

>>2044431
>although he was correct
on the pic...

erm, oh wow a third? really? americans cheat that much?

hmm...well i'm not crazy about monogamy anyway...how did it come about and why is it so universally accepted?

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044450]

>>2044443
Marriage as between one man and one woman is a modern construct mainly pioneered and enforced by puritanical Christianity.
oh, this sort of answers the question...disregard
also pents get

[Anonymous No.2044455]

>>2044382

does your opinion matter?

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044483]

>>2044455
of course, because i am always correct.

[Anonymous No.2044492]

>>2044443
In other cultures around the world, monogamy isn't accepted. Monogamy doesn't have universal acceptance. Looking out at the world from the US, it would seem like that because that is what we have been made to believe is the truth, but the data tells a very different story.

http://www.geneamusings.com/2006/07/world-records-for-number-of-children.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

Does this seem like monogamy to you? I'm excited about the up coming genetic revolution because we will finally get to see paternity tests become standard. Imagine what that will do to our mating strategies.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044514]

>>2044492
i don't know what it would do...
i wanna live in an awesome hippy eutopia where pretty much everyone can fuck whoever they like all the time, and words like 'slut' etc don't exist anymore and don't have meaning.
...of course i will have to eliminate STD's first for this to be a good idea...but hey, i'm a scientist, maybe i will...

[Anonymous No.2044524]

>>2044514
Let's hook up.

[Anonymous No.2044530]

>>2044492
I'm a liberal but even I have my limits
Monogamy is not a subject for discussion
Its the way society runs and the way it has always has run.
Its there because its what works best
The last thing we need is to have to worried 24/7 that our wives will leave us for someone else
We have enough problems in our world as it is, babysitting shouldn't be one of them.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044536]

>>2044524
lol, u like my idea?
INB4 "lol EK is a massive slag"
because i'm not, i just don't get why i would have to stick with 1 guy.
loads of my friends abuse the system anyway, dropping and then redating guys multiple times in a matter of weeks... the whole boyfriend/girlfriend relationship thing is pretty bullshit anyway and is so easy to abuse.

[Anonymous No.2044550]

>>2044514
>...of course i will have to eliminate STD's first for this to be a good idea...
Not necessarily. Condoms are idiot proof...

[Anonymous No.2044552]

>>2044514
More importantly than the STDs, you will have to develop a society of trust and respect wherein people won't choose to deceive and manipulate when given the choice.

Personally, fucking hippies! They are to the left as rednecks are to the right. Equally grotesque.

I'm all for free love and promiscuity among bodies but the 60s shat on that. Important note, your biology tells you that mating with those you find attractive is a fantastically good idea; hence, your attraction to that utopia.

Looks good on the chalkboard, but it would fail in any current formulation. You need the structure that supports that first.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044563]

>>2044530
erm... 4/10 if a troll.. im just not sure
did you not read what this guy was saying?
>>2044492
...i'll bite anyway. INB4 "hurr durr i trollulololol"
>Monogamy is not a subject for discussion
everything is up for discussion, this is /sci/ put forward your ideas in the academic arena, and see how you fare.
>Its the way society runs and the way it has always has run.
nope
>Its there because its what works best
what do you mean 'works best' it depends on what your aim is.
>The last thing we need is to have to worried 24/7 that our wives will leave us for someone else
in my system that wouldn't be an issue. noone is 'leaving' anyone, you don't own anyone, and you arn't pair bonded to them. all people have is friends, of both genders, with optional casual sex with any of them at any time, if mutual consent etc.

[Anonymous No.2044584]

>>2044563
That's great and all
Until you have a family...

[Anonymous No.2044601]

>>2044563
Asl?

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044604]

>>2044550
yeh i guess, but obviously if we can, it is even better to eradicate STD's, rendering condoms obsolete, so the only contraception we need is to stop unwanted pregnancy.
(+ IMO feels better without one)
>>2044552
yeh, with my idea there is no need for diception because nobody judges anybody about it, or expects pair bond relationships. as it is, people sometimes 'cheat' which basically means they probably want something similar to my idea, but arn't willing to be honest about it, so they will do what they like, but then just lie about it later.
I want to do what i like, be honest about it, and theres nothing to be ashamed of etc, i've not decieved anyone, no1 is the boss of me, so its all fine.
>You need the structure that supports that first.
which is?
hmm, i think you would probably just need a significant number of people with the confidence to just disregard the current social rules about this sort of thing, and start the system. if its a good idea, more people are converted...and after a few decades the system is almost universal..
and marriage etc wouldn't exist, it would be pointless.

[Anonymous No.2044610]

>>2044530
Your statement is pure fantasy unsupported by mountains of data.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/oct/13/love-drug-pain-relief-cocaine

http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html

Unfortunately, I don't have all my bookmarks here to dump on you. If you actually believe she has eyes for you and you only, you are deluding yourself. Not that truly exclusive pair-bonding doesn't happen only that when it does, it is exceedingly rare.

Monogomy is old like science is old. Developed mostly in the last couple hundred of years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044660]

>>2044601
18, USA
>>2044584
ah yeh, i though this might come up.
well at the moment i personally don't plan on having any kids. ever. i mean obviously this might change, but to be honest giving birth scares the hell outta me.
...this is probably really contraversial but... is there any reason we have to have like 2 parent familys raising children? do we HAVE to be raised by our parents? i mean we don't pick who they are, and they could be jerks (don't get me wrong, i love my parents)
but a society could exist, where it wouldn't even matter, nobody would know who their parents are, and it wouldnt matter, and loads of children would be brought up by a few adults. so kinda like if you stick 3 or 4 family units together in a big house, so like theres 8 parents, maybe around 20 kids, and nobody knows which are theirs genetically (you could genetic test, but nobody cares to do it) and all 8 of them raise the 20 kids together...more or less
also, i havent fully thought this through, or the ramifications of it, and i might not even agree with this yet... i'd have to think about it more... but i just thought i'd put the idea out there...

[Anonymous No.2044671]

>>2044604
You discount the issues of people. Here's the thing, the people have to be reconditioned to the new environment. They will bring in expectations of their upbringing. Probability holds that they won't be truthful and forthcoming in everything that is necessary for the operation of the proposed society.

The support structure necessary is that which renders it economically nonadvantageous to deceive and manipulate others. Where the golden rule is followed for entirely practical and visceral reasons.

http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/p132x146.htm
http://www.psychohistory.com/

[Anonymous No.2044696]

>>2044660
you're not the first one to have considered this, it shows up in a lot of postapocalyptic fiction and stuff

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044702]

>>2044671
... i can tell you are the same guy who was posting further up this thread, and you seem really really clever. seriously. can you like be a tripfag? i want to know which ones are you, rather than just guessing by the style of the post.
...well, maybe it doesn't matter.
just a thought
hmm... i would quite like some sort of truth syrum to be made...THAT would be useful, total overhaul on the justice system.
... i don't think lie detectors are particularly accurate, like the jeremy kyle ones... i would want something that is certain to be accurate, like a chemical/drug
does anything remotely like this currently exist?

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044707]

>>2044696
1984? shit like that?

[Anonymous No.2044726]

>>2044660
Here's a far more realistic and practical approach:
Let's talk about familial structures because there is not a single perfect structure for all people from all manners of upbringing.

The typical familial structure in the west is a mother, a father, children. A non-typical familial structure in the west is two mothers and children. Of these two, two mother families out perform the nuclear family.

Here's the thing, if we're looking for greatest breeding potential, greatest number of potential sexual partners, we're looking for a ring structure. Paternal testing is important to reduce the occurrence of inbreeding.

Say we have four people, Alice, Bob, Carla, and David. With this structure, we can go a maximum of two generations without inbreeding: Alice and Bob have a child, Carla and David have a child, Alice and David have a child, and Bob and Carla have a child. The children can similarly permute.

The number of generations the structure can support without inbreeding extends out according to the number of pairs.

Robert Heinlein talks about family structures like line marriages, chains, and clans. On beyond Zebra, children.

[Anonymous No.2044728]

>>2044707
im pretty sure it was in The Giver (read in 7th grade so not totally sure) and it might have come up in 1984

i dont remember about brave new world because that book was a piece of shit and im trying to forget it

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044741]

>>2044726
...how closely related do you have to be for it to count as inbreeding?
if you share granparents and are cousins, it definitely is....but supposing you shared a great great great grandparent, had different last names, and neither of you knew... is there still the chance of fucking up the offspring with a recessive disorder etc?
i know muslims like to marry there cousins a lot...saw a documentary about it where they can get really fucked up, blind from birth, cystic fibrosis, and shit like that... but still they don't change their ways...

[Anonymous No.2044746]

>>2044702
I am not a tripfag on the principle of the thing. Use your deductive and inductive abilities. Like I said, you will become a proper /sci/duck.

There are pretty decent deception detection methods, but it pales in comparison to a voluntarily truthful citizenry or an honest economy. Compulsion and coercion do not work anywhere near as well as voluntary compliance.

Our current system operates the way it does because people don't want to admit that they are deceptive and manipulative. They don't want to admit that they have responsibility for their choices.

They don't want to admit they have choice.

[Anonymous No.2044758]

>>2044741
The main thing is genetics. Every human being on the planet is at most 73rd cousins. Another reason for implementing compulsory paternal testing and genetic sequencing at birth. It would help us to maintain who's genetically compatible and incompatible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jK2QGCvdcQ

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044781]

>>2044746
>you will become a proper /sci/duck.
what will change?
>people don't want to admit that they are deceptive and manipulative.
well IRL reputation is rather important, people have to behave according to how other people want them to (at least to some extent) to avoid looking like an asshole, and being persecuted for it.
here, its anonymous, so if i want to be, i can be an asshat, and no1 can stop me (i tend not to...although i suspect some people will disagree)
like here, i can very easily kill that which is 'EK' and coudl post anonymously, or make a new name with tripcode, and no1 would be able to connect the 2. so getting a bad reputation somewhere like this doesn't matter at all, because starting a fresh is so easy.
...face transplants IRL...far harder to do, and more costly.

[Anonymous No.2044841]

>>2044781
Your ego will become less important. Making good arguments with sound scientific and logical reasoning will become the number one concern. When you troll, it will be to prove a point or support an argument not to show personal superiority or for personal entertainment. Those will become extraneous consequences rather than the purpose of the exercise.

When you make a claim, you will back it up with evidence, facts, data, sources, citations, and peer-review. When you discuss a claim, it will be on the basis of whether the claim can be refuted or not. It will be by criticism that you operate. Opinions, your's and their's, will become background noise to amplify your analysis of an argument or phenomena.

You will pick out controversial discussions, and you will argue them from the data, following strictly the data to wherever it leads regardless of whether it is popular or socially desirable.

You will come to judge people by the content of their character rather than by the color of their skin, the genitals between their legs, the chromosomes of their biology, or their religious beliefs. Wait... I mean you will come to judge people based upon the evidence-based reasoning.

If this leaks to your real life, you will come to test and judge people based upon these same criteria.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2044869]

>>2044841
who says my ego is important now?
so this kind of trolling is acceptable? (pic related)
...
oh wow, you i really like.
...ok, i will try to become that and follow what you said.

[Anonymous No.2044878]

>>2044781
>well IRL reputation is rather important
Important in what sense, to whom, or to what?
For me, reputation is unimportant. I'm an unpopular person. Social outcast among outcasts who's drawn further and further away from social opinions and concerns.

[Anonymous No.2044883]

>>2044869
Yes.

[Anonymous No.2044925]

>>2044660
I'm still not sure whether you're a troll or not...
If you're a troll you are seriously committed to it

[Anonymous No.2044969]

>>2044660
18,USA is pretty vague
You're a tease...

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2045014]

>>2044925
nobody IS a troll, unless that is all they do. i CAN troll, i just am choosing not to.
>>2044969
lol, california.
don't wanna be more specific than that... would rather not have /sci/ducks hunting me down IRL...
>>2044925
wait, 1 more thing, which part of that post did you think was a troll? you just thought the idea of 8 parents 20 children was that retarded it had to be a troll? or something else?

[Anonymous No.2045046]

>>2045014
I was thinking you are a troll because you have posted pictures of a youtube girl in the past and claimed it was you...
I guess what I'm saying is that it wouldn't hurt to post some kind of proof you know.

[Anonymous No.2045063]

>>2045046
Nice trolling. This would be a stealth troll suggestive-style. This person is a pro-predator, beware.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2045088]

>>2045046
i am a fan of her youtube channel, but i never actually claimed to BE her... i think people just assumed it must be who i am.
too shy to upload my own pics...but i liked he idea of emotion images to spice up the text.
anyway, seemed to piss people of and/or cause confusion, so i stopped that.

[Anonymous No.2045115]

>>2045088
>too shy to upload my own pics
You don't seem that shy around here <_<

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2045141]

>>2045115
well its just typing, isn't it? it's not like any harm can come of it, or i can be punished in any way. IRL i am extremely shy, your classic quiet sciencey type.
plus here i probably talk big, swear etc, wheras usually i wouldn't, pic sorta related.
ive been described as 'hipster' etc,
..anyway, you might see a slightly different EK from now on, this guy has been pretty enlightening..
>>2044841

[Anonymous No.2045142]

>>2045088
Remember, don't freak the norms. They don't like it. Most of these people are new to the internet, or they are used to the Use-net era formate of BBS.

Identity online is one of the funniest things to watch. How many conversations online have you had which started with ASL? Perhaps one of the most useless questions there are to a virtual person who can choose at any moment to be anyone they wish to portray themselves to be with almost no way to verify their claims.

People are conditioned to rely upon identities to communicate, normalize, and socialize. They depend on being able to name, label, and categorize things to associate them with pleasure, indifference, and displeasure experience.

Do keep experimenting with ways to use the medium effectively. The first go to for any good scientist is an experiment; therefore, /sci/ducks should be constantly devising and testing experiments and hypotheses regarding the use of the medium in which they exist.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2045153]

>>2045142
intriguing...
could i potentially temporarily remove my tripcode, go to /b/ or something like that, and stage an argument with myself and it will look like 2 different anons...ooh! that might be quite fun!
i doubt i could do it though, i'd need 2 brains to process 2 sides of an argument... hmm, maybe.

[Anonymous No.2045156]

>>2045141
Here's how to stop being a worldling.

http://deoxy.org/egofalse.htm

http://buddhisttorrents.blogspot.com/2008/08/sayings-of-buddha-read-by-jacob.html

[Anonymous No.2045165]

>>2045153
If you haven't done a sockpuppet argument, I recommend it. It's an enlightening experience. Try to predict how often people will correctly call samefag on you. It'll give you an idea of people's ability to identify you from your "voice."

[me !7HAMu23nPc No.2045167]

>>2045165
or you could just, not be crazy.

[Anonymous No.2045172]

>>2045167
I'm going to call samefag. Your commas give you away. Learn to use punctuation correctly before you break the rules. ^_^

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2045176]

lol, top 3 are all me. thread is on /b/
>>>/b/res/286753464

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2045180]

>>>/b/286753464
that

[Anonymous No.2045185]

>>2045141
post picture
please? :3
I won't judge you...

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2045189]

>>2045185
no, i know how these things propogate... screencapped by 30 anons, around 20% of which photoshop cocks and semen onto the picture..no thanx.

[Anonymous No.2045190]

Never change EK, never change.

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2045198]

lol, samefagged slightly more on the thread... i'm like a spy! :D

[Anonymous No.2045207]

>>2045189
No we won't
I'm pretty much the only guy here who has asked for pictures
Nobody else seems to care
You're on /sci/
We're boring

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2045214]

>>2045207
i don't think you are boring, i really like /sci/

[sage No.2045221]

>>2045214
Just do it. I'm curious to see what you look like. I believed you were the person in the images you were posting a bit ago.

[Anonymous No.2045227]

>>2045214
really?

[Anonymous No.2045239]

nah i'd still rather not...no idea who is lurking... fucking kill myself if aether or some fag like that gotta hold of it...
lol, check my samefaggery

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2045242]

>>2045239
this is me, just forgot to reinstate the tripcode...

[sage No.2045252]

>>2045242
Who was that blond girl you were using as your image?

[Anonymous No.2045255]

>>2045242
what's the worst that could happen?
If you want I'll post a picture of myself just to show its not a big deal. :\

[μαθμαν !!vnLoxcfyRGs No.2045264]

this whole thread makes me want to facepalm.
EK, get your shit together.
The rest of you, stop feeding the attention whore.
I've seen intelligent discussion from all of you before (ok, so the whole anonymous thing makes it hard, but i'll give you credit.)
There are some of us who use tripcodes to try and associate intelligent comments into something of a persona. I don't always use it, but normally I do.
Now please, post on topic. Saging for meta-discussion and irrelevance.
<span class="math">\fail(personal thoughts: josef is like harvey dent, i've never heard of Zombeh)[/spoiler]

[EK !D96TK2PSsI No.2045266]

>>2045252
http://www.youtube.com/user/ZOMGitsCriss
her.
she makes very interesting videos. like atheist videos etc.
anyway i'm sleepy. night.

[Anonymous No.2045292]

>>2045255
Okay here is a picture of me strangling my dog

[Anonymous No.2045320]

>>2045292
Okay then I'll just let this thread die now...

[Anonymous No.2045336]

>>2044841
>Making good arguments with sound scientific and logical reasoning will become the number one concern
>Cite a scifi writer as a referennce
>Cite shitty british newspapers as sources
>Post irrelevant links as sources


I wish i had the time to carefully dissect the mistakes in your reasoning, (some things seem alright), but i just dont have the time. So im hoping that pointing out these contradictions will deter most people of beliving any of your BULLSHIT.

[Anonymous No.2045350]

>>2045336
Then that's what happens. You got better evidence, better sources, better data? Criticize the fuck out of everything I said. I know it has holes not that most people can point them out.

Refute what you can. I'm eager for better sources, but I have yet to come across those with comprehensive research.

I'm willing to make mistakes. Can you say the same? If you can't, you're not a scientist.