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Anyone have the most recent revised version of this?

>> No.2015253

>>2015236
galileo is not low, top-mid

>> No.2015254

CARL SAGAN IN LOW TIER MAKES THIS BOARD RAGE

>> No.2015258

You forgot marie curie, at least god tier.
Even sexists acknowledge her, stop pretending, she is directly competing with einstein.

>> No.2015259

>>2015254
Actually as much i love Sagan he *IS* low tier.
Look at his achievements, nothing really important.
Only famous cause of his series.

Also Tyron(nigger)
Is BELOW SHIT TIER.
HE didn't do ANYTHING.
Just appering in shows.
He's an attention whore.

>> No.2015260

>>2015253
Galileo thought that the idea that the moon caused the tides was pure superstition.

>> No.2015264

Like I said in /new/, Planck not in God tier, nope.

>> No.2015266

wtf.
Who is the Low tier faaaaaaaaaaar right.
The young dude.

>> No.2015270

>implying dawkins isn't troll-tier

>> No.2015273

mfw i dont know ANY of the TOP tier row.

Anyone care to put names on everyone?
Plssss ;o

>> No.2015275

>>2015266
He's a CERN physicist who does a lot to popularize physics and is on tv sometimes. Brian Cox.

>> No.2015276

Who is that Top-right. I always get my marble busts mixed up.

>> No.2015285

Why is OP putting Edison and Tesla in with scientists? If you're doing inventors, you're missing a lot of important ones.

>> No.2015290

Add names please.

>> No.2015292

>>2015276
Aristotle. He's the only marble bust who did anything that is comparable to modern science.

>> No.2015301

mfw when tesla

>> No.2015303

>>2015273
3rd and 2nd to right are Planck and Feynman. 3rd to left might be that asswipe Crick, but I'm not good with faces.

>> No.2015305

>Leibniz, Galilei
>low tier

>rage

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I raged at this, how the FUCK can you say this is legitimate?

>> No.2015310

mfw when no Maxwell. GTFO OP.

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Hey OP, obviously you don't know WHAT CALCULUS IS, and obviously you are a faggot

>> No.2015315

mfw when mendell

>> No.2015319

>>2015259

Correct, Sagan had no mind blowing discoveries. He's important for other reasons presumably not used in the ranking of this chart.

>> No.2015321

mfw when tesla > mendell


OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

>> No.2015322

>>2015260
Galileo Galilei(1564-1642)
Isaac Newton(1643-1727)

Galileo didn't even know about gravity which causes the tides so it makes sense that he will reject that theory.
If you still don't agree then newton should be in a less tier because he believed in god.

>> No.2015323

>>2015319

correct sir, it should be noted that on another chart he is god-tier

>> No.2015324

I don't see Gell-Mann either. Who's that fucker next to Aristotle? At first I thought he was Gell-Mann, but his hair is too flat.

>> No.2015328

>>2015305
With Newton in the highest tier, what did you expect? It's obvious he's a Newtonfag.

>> No.2015329

OP

WHAT

THE

FUCK

WERE

YOU


THINKING

WHEN

YOU

MADE

THIS

CHART

OMG

PLEASE

GET

THE

FUCK

OFF

AND

AN

HERO

>> No.2015332

>>2015323


The fact that he's sharing a tier with Degrasse is down right insulting though.

>> No.2015334

>>2015292
Eratosthenes. How does degrees of a circle work?

>> No.2015336

>>2015319
sagan just did some tv series and some alien fanfic we don't even know if the target audience will like

>> No.2015341
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I am appalled OP, I am truly TRULY appalled!

>> No.2015344

Having Feynman on, but no Dirac?

Meh ..

>> No.2015345

>>2015322
Galileo believed in God and was almost as religious as Newton.

Every scientist who doesn't believe in God should automatically be Mid-Tier or lower. I might make an exception for Feynman, because though he was agnostic, he had a lot of respect for the contributions of religion to the ethics of society.

>> No.2015348

OP, I find your choice of placement on more than one occasion to be revolting, please proceed to the nearest bridge and jump off

>> No.2015351

>>2015336

Sagan was a "pop-Scientist"

He brought science to the layman and made children interested. He was brilliant in this respect.

Degrasse and Kaku are the same thing but their target audiences are in the 8th grade.

>> No.2015352

>>2015345


>>implying religion should not be condemned

Wait....you best be trollin', right?

>> No.2015354

>>2015334
Math=/=Science.
If we were doing a math chart, it would look completely different and have numerous marble busts. Aristotle published a work on physics which defined how western civilization viewed physics for over a thousand years. It was pretty severely wrong, but still...

>> No.2015356

>>2015345
>and was almost as religious as Newton

Hardly. Newton was an occult freak and thought he'd become famous because of his books on interpreting the Bible.

>> No.2015358

>>2015352
>enjoy your adolescence.

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2015360

mfw people in the year 2010 debate whether or not Newton was religous and imply that it makes any difference

>> No.2015363

>>2015345
Why they should be mid tier?
Most scientist doesn't believe in god but are panteist or agnostics

>> No.2015365

>>2015356
Galileo also wrote biblical interpretations. These are what got him in trouble with the Pope -- not the science behind heliocentrism, but telling people how to interpret the bible to be consistent with it.

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>>2015358


This is you, amirite?>>2015358

>> No.2015374

>>2015363
That's the fad with modern science. But a mind that can into religion And into science, like Newton, Aristotle or Maxwell (though the latter didn't write much about it) is a God-tier mind.

>> No.2015375

>>2015345

0/10

Nothing to see here, carry on.

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>>2015374


trolls are that way >>/b/

>> No.2015380

Who's the cowboy?

>> No.2015381

am going to watch bourne ultinatum.
When i get back i expect this faggotry to be fixed.
or else.

>> No.2015382

mfw OP posts on /sci/ and trolls us all

>> No.2015383

>>2015378
Why are you so threatened by people who take religion seriously? You must hate the fact of Newton's existence.

>> No.2015386

and who's the guy who looks like an old hippie?

>> No.2015390

>>2015383

because people who take religion seriously are in possession of a mindset that has single handily been responsible for more pain & suffering than any of us care to every see or hear about

that is why

>> No.2015391

>>2015380
indiana jones

>> No.2015394

>>2015390
wow. you're an idiot.

>> No.2015395

>>2015391

i lol'd

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>>2015390
>implying science cares about suffering

>> No.2015399

>>2015322
>implying Galileo didn't believe in God.
girlslaughing.pcx

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>>2015394

How the fuck can you honestly say that what I said was idiotic!?

PROVE TO ME THAT RELIGION IS BENEFICIAL TO HUMANITY

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>>2015400

>> No.2015406

>>2015400

It slowed down technological growth.

>> No.2015407

>>2015400
Maybe you should learn some actual history of thought in western civilization. Or read Feynman's lecture on religion and science.

>> No.2015409

>>2015399
But galileo didn't try to find a secret code in the bible made with the distance betwen the letters

>> No.2015411

>>2015406
It sped it up by 100x. Europe would not have invented modern science without it.

>> No.2015414

>>2015406
and that is benefical?

>> No.2015416

>>2015409
I've read Newton's religious writings and I didn't see anything like that. You're thinking of the "Bible Code", which is pure 20th century nuttery. Newton's biblical interpretations weren't based on anything that nonsensical.

>> No.2015421

Why is slow down the technological growth good?

Because of the environment? Thats no technology's fault, it's because human doesn't care about it enough to destroy it and get a little money.

>> No.2015426

>>2015416
Maybe you're right, in that case im sorry because i didn't know that.

>> No.2015427

>>2015421
slowed down the construction of the bomb allowing humans to remain alive for a few more centuries

>> No.2015434

>>2015427

mfw


Oh please!

>>implying humand will blow themselves up

>>implying cynicism is the way to look at history

>>implying you are correct

>> No.2015474

>>2015434
>implying we need all the humanity consent to blow ourselves up
>implying it's not enough with a few retards in the wrong places

>> No.2015489

Ok, stop bitchin about religion.

>> No.2015494

All of those should be god-tier, expect those in troll-tier, of course.

>> No.2015537

>>2015494
no

>> No.2015554

>>2015292

Aristotle was a fucking faggot.

You mean to say Euclid or Pythagoras

>> No.2015558

>>2015554
Euclid and Pythagoras were both god-tier mathematicians. They didn't do science though.

>> No.2015561

>Kepler is shit tier
What are you doing you fool

>> No.2015564

Needs more Hooke

>> No.2015566

>>2015561
This.
The goddamn list is still shit. Having Sagan on a higher tier than Kepler?

>> No.2015567

mfw no Schrodinger

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>>2015567
mfw you have no face

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>>2015568
mf

>> No.2015590

>>2015266
Brian Cox isn't that young btw, 42 years old if I recall correctly.

>> No.2015703

>>2015344
This. At least as far as physics goes, the chart needs Dirac and Landau. Once you include Dirac, he'll HAVE to go on the top tier, and Feynman will HAVE to move below him.

Watson and/or Crick should go on the Low Tier. You also need Mendel and Mendeleev (I don't recognize them).

I love Dawkins but he should CLEARLY be on the troll tier. He doesn't do research!

>> No.2015728

I would rearrange that a bit lol

>> No.2015735

>>2015400
Religion = Literacy

>> No.2015745

WTF is Aristotle doing in God Tier? All his "observations" about the world were wrong. Give me Democritus, OP.

>> No.2015836

Tesla doesn't deserve to be above feynman, Heisenberg, etc etc... (because these people revolutionized our understanding of the physical universe. Tesla was an engineer with a great understanding of Electricity and Magnetism. He didn't discover the laws nof E and M!)

>> No.2015847

>>2015236
Karl Sagan should be low tier. Or no tier. There is no logic to this list.

>> No.2015894

Don't see Nila Gaede

>> No.2015913

What the fuck. Aristotle? WHy?

>> No.2015916

>darwin on god tier
>nope

>> No.2015919

Can someone tell me all the names of the people in the list?

>> No.2015921

>>2015919
If you can't already name them all ( except for retards like Hovind ) then you need to open books and read Science magazines more often.

>> No.2015924

>>2015745
>Democritus
>The dude who thought the earth was flat, and had no system of science.

>> No.2015928

>>2015921
>mfw your science books are picture books.

>> No.2015930

>>2015913
Maybe because he invented science?

>> No.2015934

>>2015836
This is obviously the same adolescent who made the last supper pic and has a hardon for inventors

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SURE IS EUROPEAN IGNORANCE OF ISLAMIC, INDIAN, AND CHINESE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE SCIENCES AROUND HERE...

>> No.2015940

>>2015930
Are you kidding me? Democritus was much more scientific than he and Plato ever pretended to be.

>> No.2015944

>>2015940
lolno

>> No.2015945

>>2015390
>>2015390
>>2015390
>implying communism wasn't atheistic

>> No.2015947

>>2015928

>mfw I have read every issue of national geographic and scientific american published since 1999.

>> No.2015949

>>2015936
Those places aren't even real.

>> No.2015952

>>2015944
Name one contribution to science made by Aristotle. I guess you might say taxonomy, but his taxonomy failed hard.

>> No.2015974

>>2015952
Not that poster but:

Combining empiricism and rationalism. (The first scientific method)
Axioms

>> No.2015990

>>2015974
Maybe you're right, but I have a very hard time believing that Aristotle was in any way original when he decided empiricism was useful and rational. That just seems so obvious.

>> No.2016111

personally i think Archimedes should take newton's place on God tier.

He did so much more at this time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdIxX_58C_U&feature=related

Also have now idea why Leibniz is so far down in rank. I enjoy using his notation whenever i can.

yea, and Kaku is right were he should be

>> No.2016116

What is this thread about?

>> No.2016126

hivemind, celebrity worship

nature frelint

>> No.2016167

>Gene Kelly
>not GOD TIER

Nice troll, OP.

>> No.2016170

>Descartes
>Shit tier
No credibility.

>> No.2016181

>>2015990
>>2015990
>>2015990
>>2015990

The hardest things lie invisible in plain site.

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2016195

Someone should make a philosophy list.

Pic related, it's a God tier philosopher

>> No.2016196

Stephen Hawking is mid tier?
Harsh dude
He deserves atleast top tier
Also Mendel...
Well his contributions did change the field of biology. But it was simpler so I guess mid tier is fine.

>> No.2016213

>>2016195
>God tier philosopher
only for the criminally insane

>> No.2016229

No.
Ancient Greeks must have their own tier.
When they were being scientific,mathematical,philosophical etc other people (like today's nordic people) were in caves bashing eachothers skulls.

Shame on you to even compare Einstein with the ancients, Einstein had everything in his table.
Only Newton is barely comparable.

Ancient Greek Tier
God Tier
Top Tier
etc

inb4 why greeks suck today?
Because they are no greeks today.

Just countries from europe+asia =Todays Greece

Greek was conquered by romans bout 2k years, and became again a country 400 years ago.

In 1600 years all kind of sandniggers and europefags went to greece took a crap and left.

The tiny little number of original greeks got mixed with all the other countries.

Not a Greekfag.

But i acknowledge Ancient Greece as the greatest civilization/time.

And it doesnt exist now, only ppl that live in the same place they did.

All hail the ancient times.jpg

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>>2016195
>ayn rand
>god tier philosopher
Pick one.

Also
>philosopher
>god tier
Pick one again.

>> No.2016236

>>2016229
>became a country ~200 ago.
Fix'd

>> No.2016241

>heisenberg mid tier

sure why not, he was just one of the main characters (along with bohr, planck, schrodinger) responsible for the development of quantum mechanics and start of a scientific revolution in the beginning of the century that changed mankind's view of the Universe and made technological advancements such as the computer you're using or the internet which you're connected possible.

sure, why not?

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>>2016195
I assume troll, but...
Rand is about as God tier of a philosopher as a 13 year white rich old boy that read his first book on political ideologies.

pic related

>> No.2016247

>Kepler and Descartes shit tier

>Sagan didnt make anything other than smoke pot and recite beautiful things about the universe and is on low tier.

Yeah, no.

>> No.2016249

>>2016247
because sagan fanboys.

>> No.2016251

>>2016229
Ancient Greece 'stole' a lot from Ancient Egypt though, who were even earlier with stuff as mathematics, technology, medicine etc.

>> No.2016267

>>2016245

Question: Ever read Atlas Shrugged? Because that author didn't.

The "Shruggers" really did till the soil. They, by and large, became farmers. A judge, for example, raised pigs, and a former car factory owner made tractors more or less by hand. A man who owned an entire series of copper mines worked mined and smelted on the small scale himself, with the assistance of a few other dedicated men.

Seriously, if you're gonna try mocking Rand, do it right...

>> No.2016269

what are stephen hawking and leonard suskind doing in mid tier?

>> No.2016274

>>2016269
Yeah, it's preposterous that they're in the same tier as Heisenberg, they should be lower.

>> No.2016289

>>2016274
stephen hawking and heisenburg should be higher and suskind should be lower

>> No.2016295

Is that darwin next to einstein?
If yes, take him down from god tier god dammit

>> No.2016300

>>2016267
Considering the quality of her masturbatory ramblings i see no reason why you should need to provide any quality when arguing against her.

The society she so dearly wanted would degenerate rapidly, it would take approximately 20 minutes before you have a military dictatorship and 20 minutes more for all technology and knowhow to be lost. By the end of the week mankind would have reverted to a nomadic lifestyle.

>> No.2016304

> Descartes
> Shit tier
Go fuck yourself?

>> No.2016310

you think einstein > planck?
oh man...
and where is Wittgenstein?

>> No.2016313

Descartes introduced the method of skepticism

then used it to try to prove God's existence

>> No.2016320

>>2016313
He only did the god thing because all the cool kids were doing it.
Nobody is perfect.

>> No.2016322

>>2016300

That's a statement you're going to have to defend. Why would a society with limited government and a strong defense of human rights collapse overnight, hm?

>> No.2016328

>>2016320
3/4 of discourse on method is proving God's existence and talking about God's essence

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I'm in Low tier?

>> No.2016340

>>2016328
Precisely.

>> No.2016516

>descartes
>shit tier

I guess you like eating shit for breakfast.

>> No.2016538

Why is Darwin God-tier? He wasn't even a very good scientist.

>> No.2016540

>>2015554
Aristotle invented evolution.

>> No.2016561

>>2016516
Descartes, believed in dualism...... Not even Cartesian coordinates make up for that.

>> No.2016562

>>2016267
>implying the Randroids would till the land.
>implying that privatizing everything doesn't result in military dictatorship and the aristocracy that we were fighting against in th first place.

Your idea of limited government means that the government wouldn't have the power to enforce contracts, or the power to stop other individuals from infringing on your rights, or the power to ensure the free market. I can keep going. Basically, the regulation and taxes your are shitting on, is the main thing that is keeping people from taking your money.

>> No.2016570

>>2016562
>implying aristocracy is bad

>> No.2016582

>>2015236

Huge problem, what the fuck?

Why are there no mathematicians? Where in fucks name is Georg Cantor? or Godel? Gauss? Where's Euler?

Why is tesla god tier?

At first I thought, oh this must be only physicists, but then I randomly see in god tier...

>> No.2016585

>>2016582

*randomly see darwin in god tier.

>> No.2016593

WHO IS SECOND FROM RIGHT IN LOW TIER?

>> No.2016612

>>2016593
Leibniz

>> No.2016622

>>2016582
They're supposed to be scientists, you fucking retard. /sci/ thinks tesla was a scientist, because /sci/ is full of homosex.

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/sci/ you're so dumb

this thread made my day

>> No.2016659

>>2016570
>Implying there is a such thing as invention in aristocracy.
Given, if it were an achieved aristocracy, that's fine. But without regulation, it would be inherited elitism.
If you know anything about the history of these scientists and engineers on OPs tier sheet, a good number of them were born into poverty.

>> No.2016842

>>2016582
>Why is tesla god tier?
Gee I don't know
It probably has to do with the fact that he created the 20th century and all
You know alternative currents, xrays, radio, radars, etc...
He also created a frictionless actuator that could make a hold building shake by amplifying the metal bar's resonance, the death ray and towers that transmitted electricity wireless.
In fact the government started HAARP because according to Tesla we could modify the weather by lifting the ionosphere by sending millions of watts into it creating a budge in the atmosphere that would make air currents change trajectory.
In fact they have been using it successfully for the past 5 years to create a high pressure point in the east coast of Florida to fend off hurricanes.
They deem it just "weather research" though, because if the general public were to know the government could not wage covert damage to enemy nations through the manipulation of weather.

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>>2016842

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>>2016842