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Stupid question,

How does fire exist in space without oxygen?

>> No.2007013

It would need another source of fuel.

>> No.2007011

Cause the fire thats in space is a different kind of fire than that on earth.

>> No.2007016

>>2007004
>HTML
>Coding

>> No.2007014

>>2007004
Because nuclear reaction is not the same as fire!

>> No.2007022

>>2007016
progfag here.
mfw HTML is a prog language.
inb4 it is if you blah blah.
Its not i know more than you will ever know, go post cats on /b/

>> No.2007030

>>2007022
I really hope english is not your first language

>> No.2007047

>>2007030
seconded.
HTML is not touring complete, so is not a "true" programing language.

>> No.2007134

>>2007047
>HTML is not touring complete
HTML supports embedding Turing-complete languages, therefore it's Turing-complete by transference.

Also
>touring

>> No.2007172

What are you talking about? Fire from the shuttle engines? That is done by squirting out liquid hydrogen and oxygen and lighting it with a spark as far as I know.

>> No.2007178

>>2007134
the language itself isn't.

And I don't give a fuck if I spell something wrong, as long as its obvious what I mean.

>> No.2007179

>>2007047 HTML is not touring complete
HTML is as Turing complete as a text file.

>> No.2007212

Fire is a plasma. It is an "expression" if you like, of a lot of heat. Not necessarily something reacting with oxygen when it burns, like on Earth.
Fusion in the Sun is enough to release energy for fire to exist.

>> No.2007219

>>2007179
are you implying that a text file is or is not Turing complete?

>> No.2007218

>hypertext markup language
>markup

>implying markup == programming

nigger just went full retard

>> No.2007228

>>2007219
Dunno
Let's try out

1+1

Okay now wait until the result appears. ;)

>> No.2007243

HTML cannot into Turing completeness.

>> No.2007335

>>2007228
That works in a python interpreter, or some unix shells iirc tcsh.

Every single programming language is just text.

System.out.print(1+1);

Let's wait until the result appears ;)

It never will, unless you translate it into a hypothetical series of symbols for the universal Turing machine.

And guess what, some translators are called web browsers.

If HTML wasn't Turing complete, it wouldn't work on your computer.

It's like I'm really talking to idiots who just got a programming course here.

PS: Before some idiot tries to refute my point, here's the proof, clear as crystal:

http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/cut18.shtml

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2007368

>>2007335

>implying javascript is html

>> No.2007503

That hobo probably doesn't know how to make tables

>> No.2007532

>>2007335

Does 1+1 evaluate to 2 in HTML? NO, it just prints 1+1.

Does 1+1 evaluate to 2 in a programming language? YES.

Hence, HTML is NOT a programming language. QED.

>> No.2007541

HTML5 now allows Turing without needing Javascript or Flash. As well that HTML5 has the ability to write flash video player from scratch (or a default one with <video></video>) without actually needing flash or Java.

Just saying.

>> No.2007555

>>2007368
HTML includes DHTML. DHTML includes JavaScript.

>> No.2007563

>>2007541

Really? You can now evaluate expressions and write loops etc in html alone? Source pls.

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2007567

Heya guys, what's going on in here?

>> No.2007574

c++ > any other programming language

>> No.2007571

>>2007563
>http://boingboing.net/2010/07/16/game-of-life-in-html.html
One development is remaking Quake 2 off of HTML5 alone.

>> No.2007577

HTML can INCLUDE JAVA ETC ETC.
BUT ITS NOT ITSELF A PROGRAMING LANGUAGE.

Its like saying hard drive is a video cause it has vids inside.

>> No.2007580

>>2007047
are you greek? those are greek characters.

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2007582

>this thread

>> No.2007584

Never before have I hurped so much durp

>> No.2007587

haha i love how this entire thread is arguing about a post someone posted in the wrong thread

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2007591

>> No.2007603

>>2007574

how about I MOV in AND POP your AX

post related, ASM is as pure as it gets, NASM in paticular.

MOV AX,SHIT
INT 10
HLT

DB SHIT, "HOW ABOUT I SLAP YOUR SHIT", 0

>> No.2007611

>>2007555
Have fun finding DHTML in there
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/

>> No.2007626

>>2007603
real men program with individual transistors

>> No.2007638

>>2007626

no, real men program with BUTTERFLIES.

XKCD refrence, I'm too damn lazy to find the comic though...and I'm using my mobile phone.

>> No.2007653

>>2007638
http://xkcd.com/378/

>> No.2007673

>>2007577
It's a programming language, whether you consider it to contain javascript or not. You write statements that instruct the interpreter how to draw tables and shit. It's a fucking programming language.

>> No.2007684

>>2007673 (thinks pens are programming languages)
HTML can't display tables, HTML says "hey there's a table, do the fuck you want with that information".

>> No.2007846

>>2007684
how about no?
html is generally considered to be a programming (or rather scripting) language
your argument about an html table not being an actual table is the biggest nonsense
the fact that HTML only makes sense in a browser doesn't invalidate it as a programming language, any more than the fact that SQL does not work outside a database; that java bytecode doesn't work outside a virtual machine; or that javascript doesn't work outside a browser.

>> No.2007853

Oh fuck off 4chan wannabes -.-
Bedtime.

>> No.2007869

According to Wikipedia:
>Markup languages like XML, HTML or troff, which define structured data, are not generally considered programming languages.

>> No.2007930

>>2007869
hmm, I thought they were
however, the fact that they are not turing complete does not imply that they are not programming languages.

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2007947

space fire uses space fuel (like space oil or space propane) and space air (it also takes less energy than earth fire which has to fight against gravity)

>> No.2008392

>>2007930
> however, the fact that they are not turing complete does not imply that they are not programming languages.

True; there are programming languages which aren't Turing complete. But HTML isn't any kind of programming language, it's a data format. If HTML is a programming language, so is every other file format in existence.

Is JPEG a programming language? Is AVI a programming language? No? Well then nor is HTML.

>> No.2008410

Since when does a programming language NEED to be able to do loops or evaluate 1+1?