/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.1989250]

Stupid scientists "hey let's colonize Mars, it's slightly smaller than Earth and has like no resources whatsoever!"

Why don't we colonize Jupiter? It's fucking huge, we'd NEVER run out of room.

[Anonymous No.1989278]

You know, people always think for a planet to support life, all it needs is to be in the "Goldilocks zone" and have a certain atmospheric composition.

People always forget that having a fuckoff huge gas giant has its perks too.

Yeah, it's easy being a perfect planet, but it's not easy to grow life when you're constantly being pelted with comets and asteroids. That's where Jupiter and Saturn come in handy. They're like the solar system's bouncers. Comets try to fly in, and Jupiter's like "you got a reservation, pal?"

That's something you never hear about in the science news when they discover a new potential Earth or whatever. Do these other stars that have Earth-like planets also have gas giants?

[Sky Render !!+udySmPhFUM No.1989332]

Why don't we colonize the sun? Stick some solar panels on your hut and you're good to go.

[Anonymous No.1989354]

>>1989278
Gas giants are fairly common, at least from what we have observed so far which granted is not much.

[Anonymous No.1989365]

It doesnt really have a surface until you go really deep in, its gas on the top layers, liquid deeper than that, and becomes solid even metallic deeper than that. My question is this then where would one build their house?

[Anonymous No.1989380]

>>1989278
>>1989365
The gravitational forces would utterly smash you and/or anything build by mankind.

[Anonymous No.1989391]

Stupid /sci/entists "hey let's colonize Jupiter, it has crushingly high gravity and a poisonous atmosphere!"

[Anonymous No.1989397]

>>1989365

The moons of Jupiter offer the best chance of colonizing the Jovian system, but then there is the problem of radiation from Jupiter. Saturn (the moon Titan in particular) would be the better/easier option.

[Anonymous No.1989409]

>The moons of Jupiter offer the best chance of colonizing the Jovian system, but then there is the problem of radiation from Jupiter. Saturn (the moon Titan in particular) would be the better/easier option.

Did we really just abandon the idea of colonizing Mars based on it lacking resources, in favour of colonizing a moon of Jupiter or Saturn.

Because those moons are TOTALLY rich with resources..

[снайпер No.1989414]

>>1989250
Jupiter gives off lethal amounts of radiation.

Trying to colonize it is tantamount to suicide.

[Anonymous No.1989423]

when were we sipposed to colonize mars???

[Anonymous No.1989425]

>>1989414
>implying radiation will be any problem to the vacuum sucking cyborgs that will be our children

[Anonymous No.1989428]

when were we supposed to colonoze mars?

[Anonymous No.1989430]

haven't seen but inches under the soil...
>there are no resources

wut?

[Anonymous No.1989443]

>>1989409

No, it's something to think about after colonizing mars and the asteroid belt.

[снайпер No.1989462]

>>1989425
Well, you should learn something about radiation then, because it would be a problem.

juno related.

[Anonymous No.1989466]

>mfw mars is richer in elements than the moon, similar to earth
>mfw the asteroid belt is just as rich without the faggoty as gravity well of earth or mars

Stay classy planet fags.

[FOR SANITY!!!! No.1989473]

>>1989397
What type of radiation?

[Anonymous No.1989477]

See all that red and orange?
That's basically unrefined iron and silica.

See all that white?
That's unrefined carbon, hydrogen and oxygen.

See how small it is, know how low the gravity is?
That means we could build a space elevator there with current technology.

Notice how far Jupiter is?
Wouldn't it be nice to have a place midway there to stock up?

Then colonize the fucking asteroids, stupid!

[Anonymous No.1989488]

>>1989477
Or we could go straight to the asteroids, then build spaceships and leave this place forever.....

[Anonymous No.1989495]

>>1989397
Under the ice crust of Europa would be a decent idea, or on Callisto, since it's far enough out not to be receiving as lethal a dose as the other 4 sphere moons of Jupiter.

But the idea of building an under-ice colony on another world begs the question; why not an under-ice colony on this world?

[Anonymous No.1989496]

>>1989488
>Then colonize the fucking asteroids, stupid!
>Or we could go straight to the asteroids

4Chan Office of RTFM would like to thank you for reading the whole post.

[Anonymous No.1989529]

i was under the impression that we can only guess where the surface of jupiter is, it's under miles of storms the size of our planet. right? maybe jupiters moons, there are a few of them that could be of interest, possibly even the moons of saturn would be of interest

[Anonymous No.1989540]

>>1989529
He doesn't know about areostats.

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[Anonymous No.1989549]

>>1989529
Well you should be under the impression that there's no real surface in jupiter, just constantly increasing heat and pressure which first compress the gases into liquid and then probably into solids with boundary layers hundreds of kilometers thick.

[Anonymous No.1989550]

>>1989529
We can measure its volume by observation. We can measure its mass by it's orbit around the sun. We can then figure out its average density, and use thermodynamics to calculate pretty accurately where the interfaces of the gaseous, liquid, and liquid metallic layers are.

Granted, there's a lot of unknowns, but we're still in our infancy of studying gas giants without praying to them as gods.

[Anonymous No.1989582]

The further out into the solar system the less rich the resources (at least in heavy metals). If you notice the solar system is stratified by the temperature at which different elements freeze the closer to the center the higher the freezing temperature of the materials found. We go from rocky bodies to gass bodies to pure ice. If we wanted a rich source of materials we should look deeper not further out from the sun.