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[Anonymous No.1945170]

What if thread

What if Alan Turing lived in a world where the crucifixion of Jesus had never happened?

[Anonymous No.1945188]

who is Alan Turing and why is this jesus guy so famous?

[Anonymous No.1945195]

Jesus didn't exist, so it would be the exact same.

[Anonymous No.1945203]

>>1945195
You don't need to be a Christian for it to be obvious that Jesus, at the very least, EXISTED. Saying Jesus didn't exist would be like saying Newton didn't exist.

[Anonymous No.1945204]

Why does that porn mag have so many fucking words in it?

[Anonymous No.1945216]

>>1945203
The story is so vague and contradictory that at the very least not all of it is about the same guy.

[Anonymous No.1945227]

ohh ohh, I have one

What if mendellian genetics had been invented a thousand years earlier?

[Anonymous No.1945229]

>>1945204
It's a porn mag for girls

[Anonymous No.1945238]

>>1945203
Newton didn't exist.

[Anonymous No.1945244]

>>1945238
But then WHO WAS GRAVITY?

[Anonymous No.1945245]

>>1945203

Jesus, despite being supposed to have done things that would've been monumental and well worth recording by both the Jews and the Romans (not to mention his followers, some of which were mentioned as literate), is not mentioned by _anyone_ in _any_ literature in his own lifetime, or in the next two generations. 60 years after he was supposed to have died, the first historian mentions him in the oldest text known to have made reference to him, and it doesn't even say much about him. No mention is made again in any historical literature we have until the gospels started being written down ~100 years after he was supposed to have been dead, and then in the parts of the new testament that began being written down when Christianity started to become popular.
No Roman records, despite everything in the bible. No Jewish records contemporary with his life, despite everything that happened in the bible. Big miraculous guy, but no noticeable following until a century after he was supposed to have died.

Yeah, he definitely existed. You don't need to be a Christian for it to be obvious. I mean, there are non-Christian uneducated idiots too, right?

[Anonymous No.1945259]

>>1945245

you're an idiot. if he didn't exist, why do we have so much documentation about his life and teachings?

i mean, that would be like saying zeus never existed. we have the details of his life, recordings of his interactions with humans, hell we have his fuckin' geneology! just like jesus.

[Anonymous No.1945267]

>>1945259
oooooh shit
bitch just got TOLD.

[Anonymous No.1945281]

>>1945245
Ask any historian; the nativity story, crucifixion, etc. may not be historically accurate, but very few deny that he existed and preached. But this is 4chan, so I guess talking out of your ass and posting comical images makes your argument valid.

Can we please get back on topic?

[Anonymous No.1945283]

>implying people don't choose to follow the religious laws that best suit their ideology

[Anonymous No.1945293]

>>1945281
Ask any historian and they'll tell you the same thing this guy >>1945245 did.

Jesus has very very few [almost zero, what does exist probably doesn't even refer to the biblical Jesus] sources detailing his life outside the bible.

The entire Christian faith is built upon a deep web of lies and deceit.

[Anonymous No.1945300]

>>1945281
Really? You want to talk historian?
Ask any historian for any mention of his existence before Jocephus, 60 years after Jesus' supposed death. Ask any historian for any evidence of his having preached by anyone with direct observation of this preaching.
Ask any historian how likely it was that his life, even if he was just a major preacher and not a miracle worker, is to be completely lacking from Jewish and Roman records of the time.
Or, since that's just me talking out of my ass, I suppose you have an answer for it.

This is on topic; Jesus never existed, thus the world would be the same.

[Anonymous No.1945312]

>>1945259
>you're an idiot. if he didn't exist, why do we have so much documentation about his life and teachings?
>thinks the gospels = valid historical source

[Anonymous No.1945315]

>>1945312
Read the rest of the post.

[Anonymous No.1945316]

>>1945259
Hehe, I retract my criticism of the baseless belief that Jesus existed. I would never claim that Zeus was false, and they both have the same evidence supporting their existence.

Hail Zeus!

[Anonymous No.1945325]

>>1945315
oh i see...

[Anonymous No.1945341]

>>1945316
Jesus vs Zeus

who would win

inb4: see respective cult's prevailance

[Anonymous No.1945354]

I don't know if the OP intended to do this, but this became totally off-topic now. Honestly, guys, does it makes a difference if Jesus existed or not? If he did, fucking great, if he didn't, fucking great as well. Nobody is changing anyone's opinion here

[Anonymous No.1945363]

>>1945341
Zeus throws lightning bolts. Jesus got nailed to a cross by a bunch of humans. I think Jesus would have a hard time fighting Zeus.
However, even though Jesus doesn't have much for attack, he's got a killer defense. I mean, he died and that didn't even stop him from living. He's gonna be hard to kill.
But, with they whole "turn the other cheek" thing, Jesus probably is going to let Zeus have as much time as is needed to figure out how to defeat Jesus.

I'm gonna give this one to Zeus, but only after an extremely long battle where they're gonna seem evenly matched.

[Anonymous No.1945368]

Zeus would totally win. He's got thunders. Jesus' got the powel to heal leprosy

[Anonymous No.1945488]

>>1945170
Alan Turing did live in a world where the crucifixion of Jesus never happened.