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[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1938662]

/sci/verse thread!

Currently we have two timelines and two canons, we have to vote on which one to use.

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1938666]

Timeline 1:

http://uppix.net/9/b/3/8913f74bb285abe8e1971225cdf01.png

Timeline 2:
2000/2100: Diamond Age:
Nanotech revolution, interstellar exploration (Not colonization), expansion into interplanetary space.

2100/2500: Golden Age:

Economic growth thanks to nanotech and biotech, transhumanism, creation of human-derived posthumans (But no posthuman AI), posthuman-ruled Great Houses form.
Spacecraft, built out of dirt and rock turned to mechanosynthetized carbon compounds, leave the solar system and form minor outposts.

2500/3400: Interstellar Age:
Expansion into interstellar space by the Houses, wars on the Solar System. Expansionists find previously-established outposts, war. War between interstellar colonies.

3400/3500: The First Great War:
Large-scale war between the Great Houses, most of the Solar System left uninhabitable.

3500/Deep Time: The Long Years:
Expansion into galactic space, civilizations are created and collapse, most cultures remain in their home system due to the island nature of every star, and due to the problems involved in carrying entire armadas over interstellar space, interstellar war is not common.

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1938669]

Canon v1:

- No FTL
- Wormholes require a lot of mass-energy and are unstable, only advanced civilizations can identify, stabilize, and inflate a wormhole, and even then its only to a small size. Large wormholes can be used to transport cargo, but only small amounts at once, but have to be carried to the destination by slow-than-light spacecraft.
- The Laws of Thermodynamics hold (Small scale violations, with sufficiently advanced technology, are possible)
- The theories of Relativity and Quantum Mechanics have been extended, but never disproved.
- Matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed (Some civilizations, however, learn how to control quantum vacuum fluctuations, but those who have that technology can also create their own universes and live in them and don't interfere with most of the common civilizations)
- Posthuman AI took longer to develop than expected
- It did not enter an upward curve of self-modification as easy as expected, progress was slow and not exponential, sometimes the AI's refused to because it would increase Mankind's grip on them, sometimes they simply evolved their own goals)
- Magnetic Monopoles exist and can be manipulated
- Relativistic spaceflight is viable and performed regularly, however, it is not as easy as flying a plane. Interplanetary spaceflight is also done regularly, and while much easier, it is not for everyone.
- By the time posthuman AI was developed human augmentation was advanced enough to surpass AIs.

This is all I have at the moment. Feel free to add more or remove.

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1938672]

Canon v2:

- Not FTL.
- Wormholes exist and can be made stable but no coherent transmissions or matter can transverse them, everything is randomized.
- AI was much harden to obtain than expected.
- It's easier to upgrade humans to posthuman status than to create posthuman AI's
- Exotic matter exists and can be made stable, but rarely on a large scale
- No changes to the laws of physics, but new ones have been discovered by posthuman intelligences
- "Reality-hacking" is possible to a few species who survive long enough to achieve this secular apotheosis, and when they do, they remain in this Universe (Since transport to other pocket universes randomizes matter) but take a form that is nearly undetectable by lesser beings that have not discovered the new principles of physics. The need for mass-energy disappears, these civilizations rarely interact with others.
- There are no humanoid aliens.
- Dyson Spheres are not usually built because:
--- They are too complex and therefore vulnerable
--- Maintenance and repair are complicated
--- Computronium Dysons used by uploads and computer-based life are prone to information collapse*
--- They take too long for the collective attention span of civilizations, except "one-man civilizations", that is, posthuman intelligences that either control an entire solar system or are very powerful and highly distributed
- The universe in this setting is seen from the point of view of human-like or minor posthuman beings, the leftovers of the Singularity, except when one can use the POV or higher intelligences, but this is rare.
- Civilizations are more often than not cyclic:

Progress-Singularity-Setback

The only escapes are:
--- Extinction (From someone else's hands, by own hands, gradual decay, information collapse*)
--- Apotheosis

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.1938692]

>Deep Time: The Long Years:
Fuuuuuuck that still sounds badass no matter how I turn it

[Anonymous No.1938700]

Timeline 0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F94fh9gCX5M&feature=related

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1938704]

http://sciverse.forumotion.net/

And the link of course.

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1938711]

>>1938700

Well, there will of course be space colonies.

[Anonymous No.1938718]

>>1938711

Will there be sexy alien babes?
Because if it isn't going to be like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkxLO0uopmU&feature=related
I don't wanna know.

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1938739]

>>1938718

There wouldn't be any humanoid aliens, but there would be colonies that went back to pre-atomic tech, and have been separated from civilization for so long that they are effectively aliens.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.1938744]

>>1938739
What is a 'super-furry'?

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1938750]

>>1938744

You know, leopard girl.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.1938753]

>>1938750
Fffffffffffffffff

[Anonymous No.1938759]

>>1938750

[Anonymous No.1938762]

>>1938744

Females with that undefinable something, pushing them out ahead of Earth women.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.1938767]

>>1938762
Definitely not liking this.

[Anonymous No.1938772]

...and now for more
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Rhodan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtV5kJ7rKkg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkK0BhAffE0

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1938773]

Seriously though:

>Currently we have two timelines and two canons, we have to vote on which one to use.
>Currently we have two timelines and two canons, we have to vote on which one to use.
>Currently we have two timelines and two canons, we have to vote on which one to use.


Needs moar interest.

As soon as we have a defined canon and timeline I will start the wikia.

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1938777]

>>1938767

She's watching you, Inu, watch your mouth.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.1938778]

>>1938773
Needs moar Mars terraforman.
Also, if those screenshots are done by you, do you want someone to help with textures?

[Anonymous No.1938783]

>>1938767
more like this?

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1938786]

>>1938778

No, they are from the 160th Century Worlds Tour.

Pic related.

Though I'm making a few models for my stories and shit.

[Anonymous No.1938787]

Super furries eh? I'd be vouching for the cyborgs to start an Eugenetic war, massacring any furry in sight.

This time though, there shall be NO survivors.

[Anonymous No.1938788]

>>1938739
I hate to tell you this, CCM, but by the time we're able to engineer furries and cyborgs, all of us here on 4Chan right now are long dead and forgotten.

The singularity will happen one way or another, but it happens long after we're dead. It won't save us. We won't upload our minds into a computer 50 years from now and wake up 200 years later.

Sorry, but it's not happening in our lifetime. We can only focus on things that actually will happen, like human augmentation, proto-VR and stuff like that.

I was born too early :-(

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.1938792]

>>1938783
NOPE.avi

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.1938796]

>>1938788
Oh you. Don't you realize there will always be awesome nutbags like Aubrey de Grey that push research even farther? All we need is life expectancy to always be more than one extra year per year.

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1938799]

>>1938788

Human augmentation... It implies life extension...

Telomere reconstruction, stem cell rejeuvenation, bacteria genetically-tricked to consume free radicals, cellular autophagy... All of those will prolly be available in our timelines, for those who are wiling to give away a fortune, granted, but still.

We will live to see the future... I think... I give it a 60% chance...

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.1938801]

>>1938799
>getting hardon
That's it, goodnight internet.

[Scia !!cjW58FjfJHZ No.1938803]

>>1938739
Furries are the scum of the earth, and the surest candidates for dying alone. The furry fandom will accept ANYONE, and hence attracts the worst and most pathetic people in the world. Furries are so ugly that they make Brian Peppers look attractive, so stupid that they make autists look smart, and pathetic beyond compare. FAIL doesn't even begin to encompass how bad furries have done in life. Dying alone is the best they can do, preferably in the style of Mr. Hands.
To put furfaggotry in perspective, furries are to animals what Larpers are to medieval faggotry, and the differences are sometimes very subtle. Larpers are at least willing to admit what they do is all in pretense, whereas some furs actually believe that they are their fursonas. Furfags have gone as far as raising their kids as furs, although instinctively the children realize their parents are different and ultimately reject it, thus proving that there is some hope for the human race which the furries have sought to destroy with their faggotry.

[Anonymous No.1938805]

Canon 2, timeline 2.

[Anonymous No.1938845]

>>1938799
>>for those who are wiling to give away a fortune
And there lies the problem. Even the best tech is unusable if you're unable to afford it. Everything you mentioned will be available at some point, but it takes 20-30 years before ordinary people will benefit from them.

For example, eye-implantable AR systems will be developed around 2035-2040. Military will be it's first user. Ordinary people continue to use heavy goggles, glasses and contact lenses until 2060s at which point 75% of people living in the western countries will have it in <15 years and by 2080-2090 the number will be 100% because people get it installed the day they are born.

Or maybe I'm too cynical about the future? It will be glorious, but it won't happen to us.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.1938856]

>>1938845
http://www.marshallbrain.com/manna5.htm

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1938868]

>>1938845

Perhaps. Perhaps not.

I'm still pretty confident about my Century of Wonders timeline.

Pic related, not the latest version, but whatever.

Some day, Laura, some day.

[Anonymous No.1938871]

>>1938856
I know the Manna story. Again, not happening anytime soon. If it happens, we'll be too old and fragile to enjoy the Vertebrane.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.1938876]

>>1938871
http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/forever-young/manhattan-beach-project-end-aging-2029

[Anonymous No.1938882]

>>1938868
>genetically engineered furries
nope.jpg

[Anonymous No.1938941]

>>1938882
Shut up

>genetically engineered furries
YES

[Anonymous No.1939044]

Only one person voting?

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1939109]

>>1938845

For it to be feasible that cost has to drop so it can be mass marketed! Plus with nanotech the price of things will go down ridiculously.

[Anonymous No.1939115]

everybody loves nigger.

[Anonymous No.1939230]

bump

[Anonymous No.1939317]

>>1939109
We need to invent an actual and practical nanoassembler first.

[Anonymous No.1939346]

This is bad science.

Gtfo

[Anonymous No.1939355]

>>1939346
You want to leave now.

[Anonymous No.1939423]

>>1939317

it will happen... In time.

[Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q No.1939738]

>>1939423

2040: First fully-functional, reprogrammable, Drexlerian molecular assembler.

My bet.

[Anonymous No.1939776]

Bumping because:

>Currently we have two timelines and two canons, we have to vote on which one to use.

[Anonymous No.1939850]

>>1939776

second canon second timeline

[Anonymous No.1940306]

first canon, first timeline