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1932506 No.1932506 [Reply] [Original]

NANOMACHINES

>> No.1932520

>>1932515
Actually, I'm not that guy from /a/ who said he would, just someone else who felt like posting it.

>> No.1932515
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Wow you really did it.

>> No.1932523

I approve this plan.

>> No.1932525

Shit, I'd use this on myself.

>> No.1932526

I want this so bad.

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>>1932506
wtf is this nonsense

>> No.1932531

>see this on /v/, post it on /a/, someone posts it on /sci/

>> No.1932536

>>1932531
Where should we post this next then?

>> No.1932537

>>1932536
Uhh...

Uhm...

Dunno

/d/?

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>>1932506
>post a long story about my academic life dillema about nano-machinery vs. robotics
>file duplicate entry
>FFFFFFUUUUU
oh /a/non you card

Anyway... Machine-engineering student here
Can and /sci/entist prove if this is theoretically possible?

>> No.1932543

>>1932506

nanomachines are going to be possible only when atomic sub-sub particles movements are a bit more understood.

remember, when you're THAT small, you really have to move around in order to be seen at all!

>> No.1932547

>>1932538
Everything is possible with nanomachines
If you don't know that - stick with robotics, you dope.

>> No.1932577

>>1932538
If it's not possible... then it is our duty to make it possible.

>> No.1932600

Stimulation via nanomachines, yeah I bet that's possible. I bet you don't even need nanomachines.

Stimulation causing hypnosis... maybe, but hypnosis is no more than suggestion, you can't mind control people with it.

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>>1932600
No, but you can always make them hurrdederp. Rape tiem whenever I see that in normal life.

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>>1932547 If you've got a problem, Eddy's got a bomb!
Oh wait, nobody here is young enough to know what that's a reference to.

Anyway, did some nano-scale fabrication research a while back, learned a bit about the state of the art and the potential the field legitimately promises. Repeat after me:
NANOTECH. IS. NOT. MAGIC.

Now that we've got that out of the way, a formal critique of the technology presented by Mr. Anonymous:

1. Current carbon fibrous and CNT technology may allow the construction of objects large enough to be seen by human eyes. To build something large enough to wear would cost billions and would be incredibly toxic to the touch. Also there is limited ability to control CNT tech, so the 'human nerve endocrine stimulation - mechanized control system' interface would be quite impossible with modern materials science technology. If my memory serves, we are able to interact with nervous tissue via photonic stimulation but our control is very limited and equipment required exceeds the size limitation of the nano or micro scale.

continued

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Correction: Nobody's OLD enough to know what that's a reference to. Moving along...

2. Assuming you have perfect communication between all operating machines (no small feat even with macrorobotics) I would assume this step is largely a trivial challenge compared to the difficulty the rest of this project will have.

3. Not quite sure why Mr. Anonymous supposes a trance can be forced by stimulation of nerve endings, there are ways to induce a trance chemically which would be much easier and not rely on nanotech.

4. What the hell? How is it spreading? Where is it coming from? Even assuming it's just 'stretching' this is so far beyond current or even reasonably projected human technological progress...

5. You know, if you can figure everything out up to this point, this step is just an extreme case of pavlovian conditioning. I'm not sure where the trance or lack of personality comes in.

In conclusion, while I respect Mr. Anonymous's ingenuity, I must regard his design as a technical challenge unmatchable by the current state of the art. In my following post I shall propose an alternative that accomplished Mr. Anonymous's goal with a hopefully less technically challenging requirement.

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Mr. Anonymous's stated goal as I understand it, is to develop a device or method through which dominance of a person can be ensured in a manner resisted neither physically or psychologically by the subject. Mr. Anonymous's proposal includes a plethora of technology far beyond what is currently predicted as feasible by academia within the next four years.

What I propose, to subvert these design challenges, is to resort to chemical endocrinal stimulation as opposed to... whatever stimulation method you were using in your design.

1. Give your subject drugs. Lots of drugs.
2. Withhold drugs from your subject.
3. Withhold drugs from your subject lest subject obeys.
4. Subject obeys.

>> No.1932707

>>1932682
That is done all the time... Its a miserable existence for the subject. Why not do something better?

>> No.1932873

bamp for nanomachines