/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.1911856]

Hey /sci/borgs, I'm 16 right now. Do you think the Singularity is gonna happen before I turn 80? I sure hope so, I don't want to go bald, or grow old and die. The law of accelerating returns has never been broken before so I AM Pretty hopeful. What are your thoughts?

[Anonymous No.1911875]

It'll happen before you hit 30, just wait, kiddo.

That is unless we have to fight off the hordes of jews, Niggers, and Muslims who seek to prevent it.

[Anonymous No.1911879]

I'm afraid I was born too early. ;_;

Feels bad man.

Oh well. Anyway, have a cool gif

[Anonymous No.1911893]

It doesn't matter. We'll probably have age-halting or even immature reversal technology before the singularity occurs.

[Anonymous No.1911899]

>>1911879
You really expect me to fall for that?

[Anonymous No.1911901]

>>1911875
14 years? So by 2024 technology should be advancing so fast that we can not predict the future with any degree of reliability? Humans and machines will be more seamlessly integrated?

Well Just look at what happened between 1996 and 2010...

[Anonymous No.1911918]

>>1911901

No. I'd put it at around 2044, factoring in resistance from niggers/jews/religion, etc.

[Samefag No.1911927]

>>1911901
It's almost as though humans have become very highly integrated with and dependant on technology, and as though it's become an integral part of our daily lives, or something.

1996fag here, cell phones are just madness. The law of accellerating returns doesn't take into account the necessary limitations imposed by the bulk of transistors. You simply CANT fit enough of them in your devices, or else you'll be carrying around a room sized laptop. LOL good luck! Go wank to your futurist bullshit, Ima go listen to my walkman!

[Anonymous No.1911935]

>>1911918
Aw shet, I'll be 50 by then. I'm so screwed. My full head of long, curly hair might cease to exist temporarily between now and then.

[Anonymous No.1911962]

>>1911927
Wat? It's already possible to fit enough transistors into cellphones, if by "enough" you mean the amount needed to perform a cellphone's function.

[Anonymous No.1911964]

>>1911935

So?

[Anonymous No.1911979]

>>1911964
I'd be bald! There would be nothing to distract from my face, no mass to swing around in rhythm with heavy metal songs; life would suck.

[Anonymous No.1912002]

[Samefag No.1912008]

>>1911962
>>1911962
You just went full retard. NEVER go full retard.

[Anonymous No.1912012]

There is nothing scientific about the idea of the Singularity. Sure Kruzweil and them make it sound scientific, and--worse--make it sound inevitable, but their grounds for this claim are very slim if you really understand logic.

Sure, technology (whatever that is) has been progressing (however you measure that). We could look at processing power over time as an example. It's increased a lot. If you set it up on Kruzweil's nice little graph, it even looks to be a logarithmic increase.

But you can plot a lot of things on a graph and make them look like a lot of other things; these are just statistical correlations. They tell us nothing causal.

Future studies is complete bullshit. If we can't even make good statistical inferences for the causality of past events, why would we even begin to think we could do so for future events?

tl;dr Fuck turning science into religion with this crappy idea.

[Anonymous No.1912013]

bump

[Samefag No.1912031]

>>1912012
A lot of star trek technology was a far cry from inevitable too, but go look at "How William Shatner Changed the World" for an interesting perspective on how sci-fi gives a directive to R&D. People today see science fiction and go, hey that's cool, I could do that.

[Anonymous No.1912037]

>>1912012
You know what your problem is? You lack vision. You're one of the ones who wants to hold humanity back, you sick fuck.

[Anonymous No.1912042]

>>1912012
THIS.

Ten thousand times this.

[Anonymous No.1912044]

>>1912031
But no one claimed it was "inevitable" that we'd have music on a computer when they saw that on Star Trek.

We did indeed eventually get digital audio compression, but no one said it was "inevitable" that we'd get it.

This is a huge flaw of Singulatarianism.

[Samefag No.1912052]

>>1912044
Comparing your "singularitists" with people who want to bring about a technological singularity is like comparing suicidal muslim zealots to everyday people whose parents were muslim. They're described by the same adjective but they're two completely different points on a fanaticism gradient.

[Anonymous No.1912053]

>>1912044
>>1912012
Counter Saging these close minded fools.

[Anonymous No.1912054]

>>1912037
How.

How do I lack vision?

Did I ever say we shouldn't do this? No. Did I ever say we shouldn't try? No. Did I say it was impossible? No.

Why do people interested in this idea always respond like this? Don't put words in my mouth.

[Anonymous No.1912057]

>>1912053
Same here.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.1912080]

http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/forever-young/manhattan-beach-project-end-aging-2029
http://www.sens.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law
http://www.marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article4799369.ece

Stand proud, men. The future is going to rock with it's cock out.

[Samefag No.1912093]

>>1912080
http://www.marshallbrain.com/discard1.htm
is more interesting to me than Manna.

[Anonymous No.1912154]

The idea of a singularity is just crap. Technology will never progress so fast that people can't keep up with it. People don't like sudden or abrupt change. Nevertheless, change is always present, it's just not as sudden as singularitists think it will be.

It will always be *the next big thing* followed by *the next big thing* with gradual transitions. Cell phones increased gradually. The internet increased gradually. Texting increased gradually. Nothing is accelerating, it's all linear.

However, just because everything is linear doesn't mean you won't be immortal in 80 years. What may happen is someone invents a pill to stop aging. Maybe a few people will take it, 5 years go by and most people are on it, 5 more years and everyone is on it. Just like every other technology. However, it won't happen overnight, nothing does.

Then maybe the same thing will happen with mind uploading. Who knows. It's impossible to predict *the next big thing* even if it's more than one or two decades away (please don't take me for saying we'll be uploading by 2020, just that if hypothetically we were, we wouldn't have a clue right now).

[Anonymous No.1912197]

You can just kill yourself instead of relying on a singularity.

[Anonymous No.1912299]

>>1911856
Any kind of augmentation will be hellishly expensive early on, and will probably be met with fierce resistance by luddites and the heavily religious alike.
However, in about 40 years, it will be widely accepted, and consciousness uploading may in fact be possible for small animals.
For humans, it might not be until 2100, perhaps longer, but your augments will keep you going until then.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.1912324]

>>1912154
>The internet increased gradually. Texting increased gradually. Nothing is accelerating, it's all linear.

[Anonymous No.1912491]

>>1912154

> Cell phones increased gradually. The internet increased gradually.

Neither of these things existed when I was born. Now they are ubiquitous around the world. In the history of mankind things have never changed to rapidly. It's not a matter of "things have always changed" -- it's the fact that things are changing faster than ever and the *rate* of change is getting faster.

[Anonymous No.1912516]

Bump for futurism.
Sage for Raymona Kurzweil.