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Can science explain this!?!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEtTl9cGrJc

>> No.1904311

weather balloons

>> No.1904320
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Dude... IT'S THE THREE GODDESSES!

They're returning on their creation! There must be a great evil that needs to be vanquished or something along those lines.

>> No.1904340

>>1904311
>i don't know what a weather balloon looks like

OP, they are Unidentified Flying Objects. Doesn't mean their aliens though.

>> No.1904343

If a civilization was advanced to travel across light years of space, they would already have invisibility. Shit nigger, even we have done it, and we can't even make it to fucking Mars yet.

>> No.1904359

>>1904343
Assuming aliens, there is the possibility that they have invisibility technology, but want to be seen anyways.

>> No.1904371

>>1904359
They're a highly intelligent species capable of interstellar travel, yet they only choose to pull pranks on us every once in a while, flashin' some lights or making a crop circle. Sounds plausible.

>> No.1904372

>>1904309
This shit again? Really?

Tbh though I can't really blame people when the news is even so speculative. Far be it from anyone to really dig in and find out what these were.

>iwantobelieve.jpg

>> No.1904377

>>1904371
>implying you wouldn't troll the fuck out of less advanced species for fun

>> No.1904380

Some rock entered the atmosphere, got really hot, thus split into 3 pieces. those are getting really hot, causing them to lose mass which drastically lowers their speed. when their mass is approaching lower and lower figures they start to hover, probably caused by some jetstreams keeping the fragments in the air. when the fire's burned out, the lights dim. as easy as that.

>> No.1904381

>>1904377
Like cow tipping! It all makes sense now.

>> No.1904384

good point

>> No.1904405

>>1904380
> they start to hover,
wut

>> No.1904424

So it split into 3 part of equal mass?
As all three parts stopped at the same time.

'jetstreams' managed to stop an object that must have been travelling at hundreds of miles an hour and then keep all 3 parts in the same place?

>> No.1904437

>>1904424
Well later on in the video they do float around a bit, and a fourth one shows up.

>> No.1904453

>>1904309
This video evidence is so shitty that I can't even tell what's going on. I could go into my basement and produce a video that looks exactly like this.

>> No.1904458

Can science explain this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz1aOdwccbg#t=2m18s

>> No.1904461

>implying /sci/ knows shit about the paranormal and everytime there is ufo-alien thread they just copy paste "weather ballons /thread" and sage

>> No.1904464

>>1904458
It's amazing that all these alien spacecraft look like flaming pieces of shit.

>> No.1904467

>>1904461
Whoa whoa whoa, we got an /x/ in here, people! RED ALERT.

>> No.1904471

Let us consult Dr. Sagan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAUCr9OorXU

>> No.1904497

>>1904461
>implying anyone knows anything about the paranormal and insists that evidence of aliens exists.

you have a personal problem, possibly psychological if aliens are a reality in your life. of course they might exist, but if a youtube video and a schizo story are enough to convince you, i'm sorry for how frustrating life must be.

>> No.1904508

The convient thing with all UFO/ObviouslyAliensFromAnotherWorldNoDoubtAboutIt sightings is that the video quality is shit as fuck. Even in the decade of High Definition technology.

>> No.1904513

>>1904458
Take this Science:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faSEgSFVj2s

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>>1904508
Not every photo is super blurry.

But whenever you get higher quality photos, people say they're fake anyways.

Gonna dump some of the higher quality ufo photos I've seen.

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>> No.1904606

>>1904585
>>1904582
>>1904581
>>1904576
>>1904571
These look like some sort of cheap man-made toy, maybe even a frisbee someone threw up in the air
>>1904587
This looks like an RC toy

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>> No.1904617

>>1904609

Looks like a Vexor to me.

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a lot of images for this one

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>> No.1904640

>>1904637
wtf

>> No.1904639

>>1904609
>>1904602
dat blur

>> No.1904646

>>1904637
link pls?
or name or something i can google?

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derp

>> No.1904655

>>1904571
>>1904576
>>1904581
>>1904582
>>1904585

Clearly two metal bowls screwed together and tossed in the air.

Try harder.

>> No.1904657

aliens can't triforce

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>> No.1904659

>>1904651
oh god it's the death star

>>1904649
what's the source for this one?

>> No.1904661

>>1904651
lawl

>> No.1904667

>>1904309
>Can science explain this!?!?

Your paranoid dementia surfacing, and you thinking this is proof of alien intelligence watching over us to perform light shows.

>> No.1904669

Used tineye on >>1904637

it found me http://thenewsjunkie.com/2008/03/ufo-pics-create-online-buzz/

trying to find more on it

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>>1904646
I can't remember the name of the website

It had some images of alien artifacts, and an explanation by a guy who supposedly worked as a researcher for the government, studying them.

>> No.1904673

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/weird/Its-Not-a-UFO-Its-an-LED-Light-Plane.html

this kind of shit is what happens

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AHA, I found the website.

http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/

>> No.1904699

>>1904681
>>1904681
>>1904681
clearly fake.
look that the sky blue outlines, against the clouds

The other images look pretty good, accept for the lighting in some that looks too perfectly balanced against the brighter background sky.
The bottom should be darker, light the trees.

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Okay posting images of the alien artifact now.

It's supposed to be some kind of gravity manipulation device.

The two semi-circular objects go into a mode described as a "Rigid Spatial Relationship", where "An RSR can be thought of as creating an 'implicit solid' between two or more constituent parts separated by empty space. Once in effect, these constituent parts behave as if they are directly and physically linked, and are completely inseparable by pulling or pushing them in opposing directions."

He describes that this is what holds the UFO's together, rather than using rivets or welds.

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And the artifact in RSR arrangement with the two semi-circular I beams held in place by the device.

>> No.1904724

>>1904701
>>1904708
>>1904712
>>1904717
And from where do you summon these images?

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I ... I want to believe.

>> No.1904731

>>1904724
http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/

>> No.1904735

>>1904724
3d computah graphics

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I am glartnanor, taek me to ur leador

>> No.1904752

>>1904701

The CARET case is one of my favourites.

Clearly CGI but fascinating nonetheless.

>> No.1904765

>>1904752
I liked the stuff on their language:

Their hardware wasn’t operated in quite the same way as ours. In our technology, even today, we have a combination of hardware and software running almost everything on the planet. Software is more abstract than hardware, but ultimately it needs hardware to run it. In other words, there’s no way to write a computer program on a piece of paper, set that piece of paper on a table or something, and expect it to actually do something. The most powerful code in the world still doesn’t actually do anything until a piece of hardware interprets it and translates its commands into actions.

But their technology is different. It really did operate like the magical piece of paper sitting on a table, in a manner of speaking. They had something akin to a language, that could quite literally execute itself, at least in the presence of a very specific type of field. The language, a term I am still using very loosely, is a system of symbols (which does admittedly very much resemble a written language) along with geometric forms and patterns that fit together to form diagrams that are themselves functional. Once they are drawn, so to speak, on a suitable surface made of a suitable material and in the presence of a certain type of field, they immediately begin performing the desired tasks. It really did seem like magic to us, even after we began to understand the principles behind it.

>> No.1904769

Linguistfag here. The symbols and what I can assume are numerals on those pages and photos are arranged in a far too Earth-like manner.

>> No.1904781

>>1904765
First of all, you wouldn't open up their hardware to find a CPU here, and a data bus there, and some kind of memory over there. Their hardware appeared to be perfectly solid and consistent in terms of material from one side to the other. Like a rock or a hunk of metal. But upon [much] closer inspection, we began to learn that it was actually one big holographic computational substrate - each "computational element" (essentially individual particles) can function independently, but are designed to function together in tremendously large clusters. I say its holographic because you can divide it up into the smallest chunks you want and still find a scaled-down but complete representation of the whole system. They produce a nonlinear computational output when grouped. So 4 elements working together is actually more than 4 times more powerful than 1. Most of the internal "matter" in their crafts (usually everything but the outermost housing) is actually this substrate and can contribute to computation at any time and in any state. The shape of these "chunks" of substrate also had a profound effect on its functionality, and often served as a "shortcut" to achieve a goal that might otherwise be more complex.

>> No.1904787

>>1904781
So back to the language. The language is actually a "functional blueprint". The forms of the shapes, symbols and arrangements thereof is itself functional. What makes it all especially difficult to grasp is that every element of each "diagram" is dependant on and related to every other element, which means no single detail can be created, removed or modified independently. Humans like written language because each element of the language can be understood on its own, and from this, complex expressions can be built. However, their "language" is entirely context-sensitive, which means that a given symbol could mean as little as a 1-bit flag in one context, or, quite literally, contain the entire human genome or a galaxy star map in another. The ability for a single, small symbol to contain, not just represent, tremendous amounts of data is another counter-intuitive aspect of this concept. We quickly realized that even working in groups of 10 or more on the simplest of diagrams, we found it virtually impossible to get anything done. As each new feature was added, the complexity of the diagram exponentially grew to unmanageable proportions. For this reason we began to develop computer-based systems to manage these details and achieved some success, although again we found that a threshold was quickly reached beyond which even the supercomputers of the day were unable to keep up.

>> No.1904791

>>1904765
>suitable surface
>suitable material
>certain type of field
>no hardware
>wtfamireading

>> No.1904795

>>1904787
Our entire system of language is based on the idea of assigning meaning to symbols. Their technology, however, somehow merges the symbol and the meaning, so a subjective audience is not needed. You can put whatever meaning you want on the symbols, but their behavior and functionality will not change, any more than a transistor will function differently if you give it another name.

Here's an example of how complex the process is. Imagine I ask you to incrementally add random words to a list such that no two words use any of the same letters, and you must perform this exercise entirely in your head, so you can't rely on a computer or even a pen and paper. If the first in the list was, say, "fox", the second item excludes all words with the letters F, O and X. If the next word you choose is "tree", then the third word in the list can't have the letters F, O, X, T, R, or E in it. As you can imagine, coming up with even a third word might start to get just a bit tricky, especially since you can't easily visualize the excluded letters by writing down the words. By the time you get to the fourth, fifth and sixth words, the problem has spiraled out of control. Now imagine trying to add the billionth word to the list (imagine also that we're working with an infinite alphabet so you don't run out of letters) and you can imagine how difficult it is for even a computer to keep up.

>> No.1904804

>>1904791
fan-fiction, probably.

It's a cool enough concept that I'm probably going to end up using it for some sci-fi RPG's/worldbuilding. Maybe offer it as an idea to the guy doing the EP/ME crossover as some Reaper or TITAN AI technology.

>> No.1904819

"But their technology is different. It really did operate like the magical piece of paper sitting on a table, in a manner of speaking. They had something akin to a language, that could quite literally execute itself, at least in the presence of a very specific type of field. The language, a term I am still using very loosely, is a system of symbols (which does admittedly very much resemble a written language) along with geometric forms and patterns that fit together to form diagrams that are themselves functional. Once they are drawn, so to speak, on a suitable surface made of a suitable material and in the presence of a certain type of field, they immediately begin performing the desired tasks. It really did seem like magic to us, even after we began to understand the principles behind it."


BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>1904765
That was my favourite part.

>>1904791

...the power of nanotech?

Probably all a big hoax, but the concept of the primers is fascinating.