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1900588 No.1900588 [Reply] [Original]

So at some point the animals direct offspring is another species?

>> No.1900608

>>1900588
yes

>> No.1900618

No. Species aren't black and white. It's a scale and they overlap to some degree.

>> No.1900619

>>1900588
If we clone your great-great-150,000th-great grandparents and bring it into the future to meet you, it will be a different species from you.
This is like being amazed that the number 198,746 is much smaller than 937,625 even though all the integers between them are only 1 apart from the one before them.

>> No.1900621
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1900621

Not from the parent.
Species lines are vague.
Sometimes, even under the biological definition of a species (can interbreed and produce viable fertile offspring) there's controversy. For example, Red wolves <span class="math">Canis~lupus~rufus[/spoiler] were essentially driven to extinction in their historic home range due to hybridization with Coyotes <span class="math">Canis latrans[/spoiler].

So, yeah, it's complicated sometimes between species; none the less as you progress through time.

>> No.1900626

>>1900618
But at some point there is an immediate transition. An individual can't be more then one species.

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1900628

>>1900621
*<span class="math">Canis~latrans[/spoiler]

Also, I've seen Red Wolves pulled in and out of Gray Wolves (i.e. made a subspecies and then a separate species) a few times just since I've been paying attention, and I'm only an undergrad. I think Eastern Timber Wolf is a separate species now, which is weird.

>> No.1900633

>>1900626


Yeah fine, your argument works if and only if you regard EVERY organism as a seperate species.

>> No.1900652

>>1900628
Tell me a butthurt eurofag, but it seems that amerifags have a tendency to split species into many subspecies and seperate subspecies into different species for N. American fauna.