/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.1888618]

hey /sci/

i improved the design, what do you think?

[Anonymous No.1888706]

would work.

[Anonymous No.1888722]

>>1888618
Get rid of the spokes and put it on a chain system and it would come closer to working.

[Anonymous No.1888843]

Sorry. Pressure acts in all directions. It would take as much energy to push the balls in to the water through the 'seal' at the bottom as you could get from the flotation effect - less when you take account of the hydrodynamic drag.

[Anonymous No.1888857]

I think it's the most plausible looking troll perpetuum mobile's I've seen on /sci/.

[Anonymous No.1888976]

Equilibrium where when what?

[Anonymous No.1889012]

gravity is on both sides of the thing, you make it look like it's only on the right, this bothers me.

[Anonymous No.1889030]

gravity on both sides, impossible 'seal' design due to suction, sorry nope.

[Anonymous No.1889036]

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[Anonymous No.1889059]

why don't you people just stop trying to break the first law of thermodynamics?

[Anonymous No.1889068]

[Anonymous No.1889074]

>>1889068
I love it.

[Anonymous No.1889104]

>>1889068
>>1889068
flawed, block 6 on the left doesn't move up but down

[Anonymous No.1889107]

>>1889068
fuck. yes.
>>1889104
it weighs only 6 kg so the 9 kg weight on the right pushes it up.

[Anonymous No.1889114]

>>1889059
What fun would that be?

[Anonymous No.1889118]

Takes the equal amount of energy to push balls through seal as above posters said.

[Anonymous No.1889122]

>>1889068
GENIUS!

[Anonymous No.1889125]

>>1889118
no, it's just one ball
there's like 5 balls pulling 1 ball in

you could even make one where 100 balls pull one ball in, if you make it large enough

[Anonymous No.1889148]

>>1888618
1- replace the water with liquid Fe
2- place magnet under seal
3- seal actually works
4- air balls rise much faster
5- ???
6- PROFIT!!!

[Anonymous No.1889798]

srsly.

The seal thing seems a bit dodgy but if it works smooth the thing should just spin what?

[Anonymous No.1889830]

>>1888618
Still going to wear out, so no laws violated.
Sorry, you do not get to file a bug report to god :P

[Anonymous No.1889877]

>>1889830
>god
does not exists wait i'll start a thread

[Nuclearfusion42 No.1889881]

My guess is the balls wouldn't have enough buoyancy to spin the contraption, and I doubt you could ever make the balls big enough, the liquid dense enough, etc to compensate. Not to mention problems with the 'seal' which is vaguely mentioned but an essential part of the whole thing.

Perpetual mobiles never ever work, the concept just goes against the laws of physics. A perpetual mobile would have to create it's own energy which is impossible.

[Anonymous No.1889952]

>>1889798
Trust me, I had some guy on TV shitting about his great invention, blah, blah, blah. More less identical to this.

You can't make that seal. Either force required to push it inside water will cancel out with Archimedes law and gravity, or the water will leak out in about 10 seconds.

I'm trying to find site of that Russian guy who made some version of overbalanced wheel, and there is a video (which could of course be a fake) of it working. No motors are visible on video, and since the shit is like 2 meters high, and weights attached to it are few kilos, can't see how it is faked.

[Anonymous No.1889973]

Ya, i like this one, this one doesnt jump out as obviously stupid, although I know it is. Took me a minute of thinking about all the forces to see where its fucked up. When the bottom ball enters the seal, it has to push a whole column of water up above it in order to fit. Then as that column of water it pushed up flows past it (this is it floating up part) so you have conserved energy, the energy you put in is the energy you get out. (almost, friction and what not)

[Anonymous No.1890041]

>>1889952
Guy who whore this here, I'd really like to know if anybody can find this guy, I'm failing at it.
All i know is that he has 2 (possibly 3) Youtube videos about his engine, which are filmed in his basement. there is also a site with schematics and further info (calculations and shit). It is some sort of unbalanced wheel, with 2 weights being different distance from center of the wheel.

Where did this fucker hide ?

[Anonymous No.1890077]

>>1890041
>Guy who whore this here

[Anonymous No.1890091]

The pressure on the balls that are half-into the water would balance anything else out.

[Batbro !!JhxxtG5COHk No.1890122]

This is known as the float belt. Not a new idea. Doesn't work. Force required to push the balls into the bottom is greater than the force of the buoyancy.

[op No.1890240]

>>1890122
finally a reply with some insight, thx

[Anonymous No.1890289]

holy fucking shit its done
http://www.magneticperpetualmotionmachine.com
that thing fucking works

[Anonymous No.1890347]

Nothing new:
http://www.magniwork.com/?hop=clkbanking

[Anonymous No.1890485]

>>1890289
Ignoring the physics and whatnot, the most suspicious thing is that he just touches something that's spinning at thousands of RPMs and STILL HAS A FINGER.

[Anonymous No.1890526]

>>1889068
If I get a box of weight 9N and then put a number 9 on it and they i flip the box upside down, the box doesn't suddenely weigh 6N.

Nice try though. hehehehehe

[Anonymous No.1890586]

>>1890526
Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.1890595]

>>1890526
>>1890526

[Anonymous No.1890596]

>>1888618
I have to admit that this is the first perpetual motion machine that has actually forced me to think for a minute. And I'm still not sure I understand why it wouldn't work.

Can someone elaborate on the "force required to push a ball through the seal?"

[Anonymous No.1890603]

>>1890526

N6

also, caption: never anonfely

[Anonymous No.1890610]

>>1890596

water. It want's to go down into this seal. At some point you have to open it to let the ball in. That force.

[Anonymous No.1890731]

>>1890289
amazing, time to start building

[Anonymous No.1891439]

is OP really trying to pass this off as his own?

pic related, its on wikipedia