/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.1832419]

is it possible to genetically engineer or selectively breed trees that produce more oxygen? It would be super useful in a self sufficient colony in space don't you think?

[Anonymous No.1832424]

>>1832419
it would be good for earth too

[Anonymous No.1832428]

>>1832424
not for earth retard... too much oxygen on earth will bring back the time when we had big ass insects. And even more oxygen will make earth extremly flamable.

>imagine entire planet on fire for a few decades.

[Anonymous No.1832435]

>>1832428
>imagine entire planet on fire for a few decades.

Sounds good to me.

[Anonymous No.1832450]

>>1832419
there would be no point in doing so other than for purely aesthetic reasons

cyanobacteria are way more efficient in doing so

most eukaryotes, like true plants, consume oxygen and organic matter for ATP at some point

also when trees die the CO2 released by their decomposition can reach up to 90% of all the CO2 they photosynthesized into organic during their life

[Anonymous No.1832451]

>>1832419
Yes. Tree's are shit though.

It will be done with microorganisms, if it were to be used in space travel, they are much easier to transport and hold.

[Anonymous No.1832453]

>>1832428
oxygen doesn't make insects bigger. They're not inflatable balloons.

[Anonymous No.1832457]

>>1832435
>>1832435
dear lord I lol'd

[Anonymous No.1832461]

>>1832453
oxygen + selective advantage + short generations = huge fucking insects

it would eventually happen

assuming punctuated equilibrium is how evolution works some coleoptera would reach enormous size probably within a few centuries

[Anonymous No.1832464]

>>1832428
Wrong. Oxygen is ass-deadly to pretty much everything, when it first started to appear practically 99% of shit died.

[Anonymous No.1832465]

>>1832450
>>1832451
cyanobacteriamind

[Anonymous No.1832467]

>>1832464
>when it first started to appear practically 99% of shit died.

So that's what they do to all the shit we evacuate from our asses very day.

[Anonymous No.1832468]

>>1832461
Huge ass insects hold no advantage. The 'first' (poor term, im simplifying) slightly bigger cockroach wouldn't be able to hid in a certain hole of a certain size, and die by bird-eating.

[Anonymous No.1832470]

>>1832464
these were anaerobes

[Anonymous No.1832473]

>>1832453
richly oxygenated air could result in bigger insects.

DEAL WITH IT NIGGER

[Anonymous No.1832480]

>>1832468
The giant bugs start hunting and eating birds

[Anonymous No.1832482]

>>1832468
that's why I said specifically coleoptera

many beetles engage in intraspecific fights for mating

also it is a selective advantage against most insectivorous birds, lizzards and similar sized predators

[Anonymous No.1832481]

>>1832470
There's a reason divers don't use 100% O2 tanks.

[Anonymous No.1832502]

>>1832482
>implying carnivorous birds wouldn't form "wolf-like" flocks with coordinated hunting strategies because of the extra pressure of inferior minded insects competing with them

[Anonymous No.1832509]

>>1832482
oh god...

[Anonymous No.1832524]

>>1832480
I lold hard. Also unless the trees had a dual function in the colony, such as food, they would be a major space waster due to the fact that oxygen can be filtered in a much more efficent manner by microbes.

For on Earth use, the system would be reliant on the fact that earth currently has a higher level of CO2 than previously (not a global warming statement, just a fact) this would mean as soon as the CO2 level started to drop these new plants would start to die out in relation to the unmodified versions.

[Anonymous No.1832528]

>>1832468

Dear god you don't know shit about fucking anything.

Present day insects can't grow bigger then they are. Why? Because they relay on trachea to get oxygen around in their body. They don't have blood with hemaglobin, thus a high oxygen concentration would allow them insects to grow bigger.

[Anonymous No.1832534]

>>1832509
... WHERE IS HE NOW?!

[Anonymous No.1832541]

>>1832528
So if we want to get rid of insects, just decrease oxygen levels? Fuck yeah. Save some mammals in our special big-proof habitats, fucking deprive the earth of oxygen, presto-chango, a wonderful cockroach-free world.

[Anonymous No.1832542]

>>1832502
you are hopeless

you are dealing with a master of ambush and tactics, and all these without a sophisticated central nervous system

guess what... bigger size and oxygen also means bigger and more efficient ganglia

you are pretty much fucked bird

[Anonymous No.1832544]

>>1832542
Insects are the master fucking race. They will colonize space. Fuck, for all I know they did, and that's how they got on earth.

Space bugs.

[Anonymous No.1832545]

>>1832541
>So if we want to get rid of insects

good luck with that

[Anonymous No.1832555]

>>1832544
tardigrades up this motherfucker!

[Anonymous No.1832559]

>>1832555
Exactly!

And everyone thought Starship Troopers was just a campy action movie...

[Anonymous No.1832620]

>>1832542
where is your insect god now?

[Anonymous No.1832723]

starship troopers was a very good book. I liked his idea that in order to vote you had to do military service. We should implement that now.

[Anonymous No.1832769]

>>1832620
Thats not real.

[Anonymous No.1832787]

>>1832723
>>1832559

Heinlein's awesome.
Unfortunately, I haven't made my way to Starship Troopers yet. I've read:
Stranger in a Strange Land
Space Cadet
The Green Hills of Earth.
I'm currently working on Podkayne of Mars, and then I plan to read Revolt in 2100/Methusela's Children (they came bundled together in the same book.)

Has anyone got a timeline for the books and stories worked out? I am getting a lot of counter-referencing when I read them. (I would ask /lit/ but they're not like /sci/)