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How true is this?

I don't believe that people with medical degrees have the highest IQ. Their curriculum is memorize, regurgitate, rinse and repeat.

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>> No.1829589

>says someone who has never been to medical school

>> No.1829598

>>1829584
>implies medicine is a cookbook

>> No.1829602

>>1829584
>thinks IQ's are relevant measures of intellectual ability. but yes, most excellent doctors could be considered in the genius range

>> No.1829607

>>1829584

What else do you do? Go to classes which teach you how to "interact with patients in the workplace"?

>> No.1829615

PhD student here. I have friends who are MD, DO. They memorize things all day.

They have to memorize a shit ton of things (a test can cover 400-500 pages), but that's all they do.

>> No.1829620

>>1829598
It is actually. You just apply shit, like engineers do, except that engineers actually work on new stuff instead of always working on the same shit.

>> No.1829628

>>1829615

Medicine is not intellectually challenging, its just like working in trades. You don't do critical thinking, problem solving or design. You don't do challenging sciences.

>> No.1829636

>>1829615

>(a test can cover 400-500 pages)

holy fuck my what

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1829643

>>1829628
>>1829628
>>1829628
>>1829628
>>1829628
1/10

>> No.1829658

>>1829636

They can. Their tests are hard, don't get me wrong. But their tests are 95% memorization and regurgitation.

I am happy I am a graduate student. I read ~10 journals a week and have no life, but it's more intellectually stimulating than memorizing pages of information just to memorize them.

>> No.1829685

You guys are jelly
Med students have to learn as much science and math as most science students and then have to memorize a shit ton of procedures step by step.
Either way is not like any of you undergraduates are doing anything other than memorizing yourselves.

>> No.1829694

>>1829685

>med students
>learn math

lol no. There is no math in medical school beyond basic statistics.

>> No.1829712

>>1829694
I don't know about med school but I do know that premed includes calc II

>> No.1829734

>>1829712

>pre-med

I am getting a PhD in evolutionary biology. People rip on biologists for not using a lot of math....

And I use diff e q and linear algebra. I also use C++ to model things.

Med students use barely any math.

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1829742

>>1829712
>he thinks calculus 2 is real math

>> No.1829743

>>1829712

Most calc II courses are not real math. It is just more memorization - how to do integrals and derivatives. They don't do any proofs.

>> No.1829759

>>1829712
most schools require calculus 1 and 2 for any of their science programs whether it's physics, biology, math (duh), chemistry, engineering, comp. sci., etc.

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>>1829584
>Electrical engineers
>High IQ

LMAO.....sure bro...sure....lol

>> No.1829790

>>1829742
>he thinks that any math isn't real math
>he doesn't respect people who don't have as high a level in education in math
>he doesn't respect the fact that math builds upon itself meaning that all math through arithmetic and calculus should be respected despite the simplicity of the operations required to solve problems in those different levels of math

honestly math is hard for a majority of the population especially once you get past geometry the difficulty shoots up (not so much the difficulty in solving the problems but it understanding why you can solve problems in the way that is taught in calculus)

I'm a second year math major though but the major difficulty hike when it comes to mathematics for me was when I got past calculus (studying linear algebra)

the concepts aren't as difficult to understand but the computations become much more difficult. it has made me seriously consider getting my math minor and focusing on economics instead.

>> No.1829808

>>1829790

Linear algebra is easy. Every vector space has a basis is the answer to most of first and second year linear algebra. Wait until you get to compelx analysis, analytic number theory, etc.

>> No.1829825

>>1829734
wtf?
why would you need any of those things for evolutionary biology?

>> No.1829846

>>1829825

I get this question a lot because a lot of people don't understand evolutionary biology.

Alleles are variations of genes. They change over time due to selection, drift, etc. Diff e q is used to figure out the rate of change of an allele and the speed in which the population is evolving.

For linear alg and example is something known as lotka-volterra.

I can treat two populations as vectors and plot them in a matrix to see how they will interact. I use C++ to do most of this as doing it by hand would be retarded.

There are other examples, mainly dealing with population genetics, dynamics and structure.

Higher order biology (ecology, evolutionary biology, etc) uses more math than the molecular sciences. The molecular sciences of biology use more chemistry related math.

>> No.1829849

>>1829808
I honestly doubt I have the intelligence to comprehend the far more difficult mathematics. As a student that has only studied up to calc 4 (quarter system) linear algebra is fairly complex work. Of course I don't take time out to study anymore so it may not be that I'm too stupid to understand the problems but more that I'm not taking the initiative to practice how to solve them (if that makes sense at all.)

I also believe that math only seems simple once you learn it. That's the reason I hate professors that introduce entirely new and radical ideas to students by saying that it is easy to understand and that we should immediately understand it.

I mean derivatives were mindblowings when I first learned them but now they seem extremely simple.

>> No.1829870

>>1829846

>matrix

lol like the movies?

>> No.1829880

>>1829870

Just like the movies, bro.

>> No.1829893

>>1829870
3/10