/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.1807440]

This chart is pretty much perfect.

[Anonymous No.1807446]

>>1807440

i agree

[Anonymous No.1807450]

Drop engineering 1 or 2 tiers.

[Anonymous No.1807454]

Math > Art >> Linguistics >> Physics > Engineering > Chemistry > Bioligy > etc

[Anonymous No.1807458]

>engineering
>god tier
>laughinggirls.jpg

[econguy !!d2Pzyp675d3 No.1807460]

>Economics
>At the same level as History, Architecture, and Earth Sciences

No.

[Anonymous No.1807462]

samefag gonna samefag

[Anonymous No.1807465]

Is this some kind of "legitimate sciences" tier list?

[Anonymous No.1807471]

>>1807446

[Anonymous No.1807473]

>comp sci not middle tier
>chemistry not god tier

im an eng student but that is just bullshit

[Anonymous No.1807476]

You forgot Women's Studies. Goes in super high god tier. It's way up there.

[Anonymous No.1807481]

What was your methodology, OP?

[Anonymous No.1807482]

>CS
>god tier
>laughinggirls.jpg

[Anonymous No.1807488]

>>1807454

Art > Physics, huh?

[Anonymous No.1807491]

[Anonymous No.1807493]

If History's mid-tier, English and Philosophy should be, too. Employers tend to look at these degrees in the same light.

Disgruntled liberal arts grad here.

[Anonymous No.1807499]

>>1807482

Obvious Liberal Arts major is obvious

[Anonymous No.1807502]

>mfw i am computer science, biology, engineering, and mathematics, and considering a phD in econ (aka super god tier math)

fuck yeah

[Anonymous No.1807503]

>>1807491
im alright with this

[Anonymous No.1807506]

>>1807491

Yeaah, Low Tier representing!

[Anonymous No.1807512]

>>1807491
wtf is comp sci doing down there?

[Anonymous No.1807518]

>>1807502

and you're on 4chan, whatever buddy

[Anonymous No.1807523]

>go to jumba juice
>cute girl at counter is talking to old couple
>they ask her why she works here
>she said she couldn't find a job
>they ask her major and uni
>tufts, engineering
>"Oh hey, my son graduated from there... did something similar... graphic design! He's employed, though, makes good cash."

laughinghispaniccoworkerwomen.jpg

[Anonymous No.1807536]

I still want a list of criteria you guys. It can't be scientific contribution if engineering is so high, and it can't be salary if Business and Law are so low.

[Anonymous No.1807539]

[Anonymous No.1807541]

>>1807512

[Anonymous No.1807544]

Comp Sci is God Tier unless it's of the pussy Visual Basic/Web/etc. variety.

Fluent in Assembler = god among men

[Anonymous No.1807556]

>>1807544

I agree with this. I tried to learn assembler. Anyone who can do bitwise operations, and make do without IF..THEN statements is pretty much made of win.

[Anonymous No.1807558]

only CE/EE program in assembly.

[Anonymous No.1807561]

>>1807541

Hahahaha, you actually believe that

>conditioned by shitty CS programs

[Anonymous No.1807564]

What the fuck, why is astronomy only high tier? it has just as much work as physics and math... IT IS PHYSICS AND MATH

[Anonymous No.1807568]

I think I can see who is asking the questions and who is giving answers. There are limitations to all the replies so far.

First off -- >>1807491 this fucker who can't
even spell "Foreign Language" correctly displays his stupidity and shallowness.

I challenge all of you to teach any of the sciences in a second or third language, then come back to the debate table and see who has accomplished more.

If your goal is only money, you have tunnel vision. If your goal is human achievement, you have heroic vision. Adjust your priorities accordingly, but do not attempt to describe absolute values. Only Mathematicians can ever do that.

[Anonymous No.1807573]

>>1807558

Yeah, but some institutions still do CE stuff under their CS programs.

> aspiring CE M.S.

[Anonymous No.1807579]

>>1807564

because sitting around and "discovering" a new asteroid or two in the asteroid belt every week doesn't exactly contribute to society very well.

[Anonymous No.1807580]

>>1807499
>>1807440
>>1807491
You mad that you have no creative bone in your body?

[Anonymous No.1807581]

>>1807568

i think OPs chart was by "heroic vision" human advancement

calm down bro

[Anonymous No.1807584]

Seriously these tiers are retarded. You can major in women studies and still be rich/smart w/e. You just have to apply it. This coming from an applied math and economics double major.

[Anonymous No.1807586]

>>1807580

You mad that you don't have enough intelligence to contribute something worthwhile to humanity?

[Anonymous No.1807587]

Computer science here. Bump us down one.

[Anonymous No.1807592]

You're all retarded. The greatest scientists in the world had the utmost respect for the arts. Some of them were artists themselves. Any one heard of Leonardo Da Vinci?

[Anonymous No.1807597]

ITT: Psuedoscientists argue difference of opinion

[Anonymous No.1807600]

>>1807592
>Da Vinci
>scientist

lol. he was an inventor and innovator.

[Anonymous No.1807602]

>>1807592

Science has degenerated into trolling American religion. Keep up with the times, caveman.

[Anonymous No.1807609]

>>1807586
LOL, I bet you've watched like two shows on the science channel and now consider your self intelligent. Go to college fag.

[Anonymous No.1807619]

Where does meteorology fall?

[Anonymous No.1807621]

>>1807609

LOL I bet you made a shitty drawing of a house in kindergarten and now consider yourself an artist. Go work at McDonald's fag.

[Anonymous No.1807623]

SHIT MAN

I DON'T CARE

[Anonymous No.1807625]

>>1807579
>>1807579
>>1807579

> >>1807564
> because sitting around and "discovering" a new asteroid or two in the asteroid belt every week doesn't exactly contribute to society very well.

wtf?
wow, are you going to describe the shit on American television as a weekly contribution?

I'd say that a weekly update of asteroid activity (among other important duties) is a fucking important function, you pompous, forgetful, and near-sighted jerk

[Anonymous No.1807627]

Can I ask people who make this list some questions?

I love teaching. Its what I'm majoring in. English, Philosophy, History. I adore these topics. They make my life worthwhile. I just wasn't good at math and don't really care for sciences outside of encyclopedic knowledge (IE my own inquiries, not majors)
I'll be meh about my $30k-$70k paycheck, but its what gets me through life. How is that..."poor"?...

What this chart seems to do is separate things by pay.

Here's the flaw with that.


>Imply this is the best way to make money
The people who make millions are not physicians and engineers, it is the corporations and conglomerates who hire said people. You're only as rich as your boss, fellas.


To follow through with that, what's even more hilarious
>Imply you make more than ATHLETES, the anti-thesis of the geek/nerd high-tier culture

George Carwin's pay as an engineer for one year<<<<<His ten minute fight with Brock Lesnar.


So you fail on that category.


>Imply what you major in guarantees you top tier pay in that category, that position, and NOT EVER a shitty job.

Oh fucking lord.


So asides to troll and get wall of text replies like this, why do people make "tier degrees"?

[Anonymous No.1807635]

>>1807440
LMAO
Yeah, engineering should be no higher then Mid-Tier

[Anonymous No.1807640]

>>1807627

The list is about intelligence required, not expected pay. Also, you're assuming that the people making these lists put their field high to show that they make money or something? That's called being a "pompous ass".

[Anonymous No.1807645]

>>1807592
> You're all retarded. The greatest scientists in the world had the utmost respect for the arts. Some of them were artists themselves. Any one heard of Leonardo Da Vinci?

>>1807592
> Science has degenerated into trolling American religion. Keep up with the times, caveman.

Wow, I thought it was the other way round. American religion has rejected science, and enjoys trolling science.

[Anonymous No.1807656]

>>1807609
Actually musician, but I guess with your intelligence level you already deduced that and were just trolling... right

[Anonymous No.1807659]

yep, this graphic's format is fucked up

it needs a title like "according to pay" or "according to brain work" and then we can all fight like animals about how much we earn, or about how much brain work we expend

atm we are arguing about points we haven't agreed on yet

[Anonymous No.1807665]

God tier.

[Anonymous No.1807690]

>>1807656

Nah, musicians are cool. I like music.

Visual art, on the other hand, is a huge clusterfuck of retardedness. You can scoop a turd into a box or scribble with crayons and dub it art these days.

I'll always believe Science > Art though. Bitch at me all you want.

[Anonymous No.1807701]

>>1807556
bitwise operations are pro

[Anonymous No.1807704]

OP's pick is approximately correct in terms of intelligence required and how much each area of study contributes to the progression of society.

[Anonymous No.1807710]

>>1807690
The funny thing is I completely adore science, hence me being on /sci/. But you can't say it's greater than music cause they are completely different. Greatness is relative.

[Anonymous No.1807712]

i work at a grocery store, where am i?

[Anonymous No.1807715]

>>1807665

1/0 is not infinity

[Anonymous No.1807723]

>>1807710

Art and culture is important, but science is a more noble pursuit. Ultimately art is just a self indulgent past-time. Science the pursuit of objective truth and understanding. Hence, science > art.

[Anonymous No.1807730]

Chart Goes from most boring to most Fun.

It is perfect.

[Anonymous No.1807732]

>>1807710
Same fag here
>>1807690
If you mean Science is greater than visual art which I now think you are, then yeah I hate to say it but you're right =/ Part of me still wants to make the argument that I made for music in that they are completely different and relative in there greatness but I don't know.

[Anonymous No.1807735]

>>1807710

If greatness has another an additional condition associated with it, you can.

For example, look at this whole intelligence/pay argument people are having. Greater according to pay, or greater according to intelligence required?

Music and Science can be "greater" than each other in different categories, and whichever category a person thinks is on top is all opinion.

[Anonymous No.1807737]

>>1807723

>Ultimately art is just the enjoyment of life.

>Science is actually just another pursuit of income.

[Anonymous No.1807741]

>>1807730

> Chart Goes from most boring to most Fun.

Only if you're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.1807748]

>>1807723

I agree. Well stated.

[Anonymous No.1807753]

>>Chart Goes from most boring to most Fun.

It is perfect.

[Anonymous No.1807755]

>>1807737

Artists have the potential to make much more money than scientists. And science is highly enjoyable. Your argument is retarded and so are you.

[Anonymous No.1807757]

>>1807723
Well I personally believe that music effects a person as well as matter in general in a way that we don't fully understand. Ironically enough, it is something that science might one day learn to understand.

[Anonymous No.1807759]

>>1807737
Um, no.

[Anonymous No.1807766]

Chart is the product of a capitalist worker drone.

[Anonymous No.1807772]

>>1807757

It does, and I'm pretty sure people already study that sort of thing.

[Anonymous No.1807774]

>GEOLOGY

>Low tier

WTF AM I READING??!?!

It combines chemistry, mathematics and physics you half-wit cretins.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Anonymous No.1807776]

>>1807723
That is a very simplistic way of looking at things.

[Anonymous No.1807784]

Godel, Einstein, Russell, Duhem, Poincare, Mach, ..

A combination of physics or maths and a met-theoretical/philosophical perspective is ultimate tier.
.

[Anonymous No.1807786]

>>1807440

But what if I want Philosophy, AND physics.

Wut naow.

[Samefag No.1807788]

>>1807774
>rocks
>as low as you can get
If lavaology was its own discipline, you could say someone is lower than you (in the sciences, womens studies are excluded from this) but they're geologists too. Only geologists are lower than geologists.

[Anonymous No.1807789]

>>1807776

No, no it isn't.

[Anonymous No.1807791]

Science is a business. You pursue what they fund you to pursue. They fund whatever they think will increase their profit margin.

If a scientist is ignorant of Art and Philosophy he is simply a little worker drone waiting for his next pay-check.

The chart is fine. It goes from most dull to most fun. Ironic.

[Anonymous No.1807793]

>>1807757
they already study that sort of shit bro

SCIENCE FUCK YEA

[Anonymous No.1807798]

>>1807793
I know, I'm just saying

[Anonymous No.1807804]

>>1807791

If you really believe that's what true science is, I feel very sorry for you. No fucking wonder humanity is doing so poor, too many people deceived into thinking shit like that.

[Anonymous No.1807808]

>>1807788

>Geologists some of the best paid undergrads.

>Must have knowledge of physics, mathematics and chemistry.

>Programs shares courses with engineering programs.

2/10, Geology deserves at least a high tier. I would like to petition OP to place geology at high tier.

[Anonymous No.1807811]

>>1807791

You might have a valid argument if scientists actually made a lot of money, but they don't. Yes it takes money to fund research, but that doesn't immediately make it a business. Art in general is much more of a business in today's society than science ever will be.

Also, if you think that mathematics, physics and engineering are dull then I feel very sorry for you, because you obviously lack the mental capacity to enjoy the most fascinating subjects imaginable. What could possibly be more interesting than unraveling the mysteries of the universe?

[Anonymous No.1807817]

>>1807811
this this fucking this

[Samefag No.1807821]

>>1807808
>Geologists some of the best paid undergrads
>implying undergraduate faggots matter
oh you.jpg

[Anonymous No.1807826]

Medicine and Law should be the only things in God-tier. As they are the most important parts of any society. Without Law you revert to chaos.
Without medicine everyone feels like shit.

Technology comes and goes and is useless unless you have Medicine and Law. Thus all the other sciences can be downgraded easily.

Since philosophy is intrinsic to Law, philosophy would be God tier as well.

The rest is irrelevant. Medicine/Law/Philosophy = God tier.

The rest are for petty worker drones. Fucken plumbers and scientists lol <--

[Anonymous No.1807827]

Can't we just agree all those professions are awesome? Why do we have to act like "I'm better than you cause I like science"? Well except for woman's/African American studies... fucking bullshit

[Anonymous No.1807831]

>>1807826


100/100

>Plumbers and scientists

well we need trade skills too, engineers and scientists are good worker ants for any society. but like you said they are down on the ladder...

[Anonymous No.1807837]

>>1807831

LOL

>well we need trade skills too, engineers and scientists are good worker ants for any society. but like you said they are down on the ladder...

fucken true.

[Anonymous No.1807844]

OP here. Geez, you guys fucking ran with this. Damn. Anyway, I made some changes after reading the thread.

>>1807808

Added, my good man. Without Geologists, how would we know if volcanoes would spring up under our houses?

Also, I know the font is different, I didn't make the original picture.

[Anonymous No.1807847]

>>1807440
>mathematics
math
>physics
super math
>engineering
math for gays
>computer science
math for tools and drones
>chemistry
math for virgins
>biology
math for women
>medicine
biology, i mean math (for kids)
>astronomy
the fetal twin of super math
>architecture
math for hipsters
>economics
troll math
>earth science
math (just kidding this isn't a science)
>history
for people who are still learning to count dates
>linguistics
useless math
>political science
for those too stupid for math
>urban studies
math to control niggers
>psycholo- HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>business
punching bags of mathematicians
>english
because the lower masses cannot understand the world through math
>law
memorizing things to hide from math
>philosophy
math...
>art
applied math for humanoid robots
>anything else
the bitches and hoes of math

[Anonymous No.1807862]

>>1807826

You are incorrect. Maths, physics, engineering, etc are pure, in that they are universal. The laws of physics on earth are the same for everywhere in the universe.

No two civilizations on earth have ever had the exact same system of law. Law is an impure and trivial field of study. Law in today's society is about suing people and making money. It's because of people who study law that OJ Simpson got away with murdering his wife. People who study law do exactly shit to uphold a high moral or ethical standard, and are only out to make money. Unfortunately that's how our legal system works.

[Anonymous No.1807865]

>>1807826

Where does law come from? The human mind. How do you understand the human mind? Neurology. How do you understand neurology? Biology. How do you understand biology? Chemistry. How do you understand chemistry? Physics. How do you understand physics? Math.

My logic is sound. Science wins. Have fun wasting your time with philosophy.

I think XKCD did something like this actually.

[Anonymous No.1807875]

>>1807847
Math is simply the language of the universe. That's like saying "fuck books but english man, now that's legit" Which it is, but only because of it's use for communication. The stuff that math figures out is awesome and math is only awesome cause it can figure that shit out.

[Anonymous No.1807886]

>>1807875

This. Everything in the whole damn world can be reduced to math.

see >>1807865 , he stole it from xkcd but that doesn't make it any less true

[Anonymous No.1807888]

god tier reporting in. except i do chemistry and astronomy as well.

[Anonymous No.1807905]

you know whats ironic, Aristotle, one of the great fathers of modern science as we know it, wrote a books on why political science is the master science.

of course he was actually trying to defend his argument with things like logic and reasoning, which i think we can all agree has no business in /sci/

[Anonymous No.1807909]

>>1807491
I've seen this fucking tier everywhere and nobody has answered me WHY THE FUCK IS "engineering top tier EXCEPT MECH"? What's wrong with mechanical engineering? Fucking fuck fuck.

[Anonymous No.1807915]

>>1807826

there aren't many things that make me rage, but saying philosophy is "god tier" is one of them.

philosophy is a joke. philosophy is just a means for stupid people to pretend like they're smart. it's all relative and full bullshit ideas that waste time.

[Anonymous No.1807916]

I propose a new graph for us to argue about

an example will come next post

[Anonymous No.1807922]

>>1807886
And who created Math? God.
Theists: 1
Atheists: 0

[Anonymous No.1807923]

>>1807826
WOW THIS GUY IS SUCH A HUGE FUCKING FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.1807934]

>>1807916
>>1807916
I propose a new graph for us to argue about... and here is an example of what I mean

The hard sciences need to me absolutely ordered, because they can be so ordered objectively. (for the most part anyway)

The other subjects are great only when they have a great mind behind them. They are shitty with a crappy mind behind them. Hence the subject itself is not the metric to follow, but only specific examples.

I think we can all agree that some music is better than other music. Hence some examples of music are god tier, while other examples are lol tier.

[Anonymous No.1807935]

>>1807844

Damned straight. Geology is responsible for every single man-made item on this planet. From the ore metals to the omnipresent plastics which are derived from crude oil, which BTW is located and extracted by geologists with our engineerbros.

[Anonymous No.1807940]

>>1807915
just because philosophy deals with the intangible doesn't demean the nobility or worth of it's purpose

[Anonymous No.1807943]

>>1807905

>implying that Aristotle is the father of modern science

I believe you meant these guys

[Anonymous No.1807948]

>>1807440
YOU FORGOT FAGGOT TEIR!

[Anonymous No.1807954]

>>1807905
Aristotle liked the cock.

[Anonymous No.1807955]

>>1807935

Mining engineer reporting in. Much respect for geo's.

[Anonymous No.1807956]

>>1807940

yeah it does actually

[Anonymous No.1807964]

>>1807954
but he wasnt an engineer? was he?

[Anonymous No.1807969]

>>1807844

I like this new chart OP. Well done.

[Anonymous No.1807973]

>>1807955

[Anonymous No.1807975]

Actually being well versed in the economy is held in higher regard than being well versed in computers...Well, that and especially astronomy & biology

[Anonymous No.1807978]

>>1807969

You'd change your mind very quickly if every engineer on the planet went on strike. Either we're god tier or the world stops moving. We'll have our computers, sky scrapers, trains, planes, cars, and iphones back too.

[Anonymous No.1807985]

>>1807940

[Anonymous No.1807988]

>Mathematics
>God tier

Enjoy only being able to work as a teacher if you don't do something else too. A god tier degree should be able to work alone too.

[Anonymous No.1807997]

>CS
>God tier

Im ok with this. Computer science is a very quickly growing field with excellent job prospects, and they are vital for society to function.

[Anonymous No.1807998]

>>1807978

Engineers are still top tier dude calm down. It depends what KIND of engineer you are. Computer engineer or mechanical engineer? Fucking awesome is what those are.

[Anonymous No.1808001]

>>1807978
>>1807978
> You'd change your mind very quickly if every engineer on the planet went on strike. Either we're god tier or the world stops moving. We'll have our computers, sky scrapers, trains, planes, cars, and iphones back too.

I feel pretty powerful because I'm teaching these subjects to students who can't speak English well. They need to master the concepts and techniques in English as well as in their own language. If I stop teaching them, then they stop producing for an English-speaking market.

[Anonymous No.1808002]

Astronomy is almost entirely worthless

[Anonymous No.1808009]

Philosophy means thinking critically and outside the box about some subject.

That's why it applies to everything, that's why it gave birth to science. That's why it will always be Uber-tier.

If you dont infuse your discipline with philosophy, whether it is art or science, you will be doomed to mediocrity, just another little worker drone. Fact.

[Anonymous No.1808010]

>>1807997
Indeed. Think of one modern facet of human life that isn't touched by computers at some point. You can't. Computer Engineers/Scientists are extremely important these days.

Being a caveman doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.1808011]

Psych major here...you may be giving us too much credit

[Anonymous No.1808017]

ITT: Trolls and pretentious students who can't see the value in anything that isn't completely dull, standardized, and lacking enthusiasm.

Your career isn't objectively better than anyone else's, and all the formal education in the world just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to human experience.

Learn2Embrace, dicks.

[Anonymous No.1808019]

>>1808010
yeah they're somewhat important, but they belong in low tier.

well, they certainly aren't above chemistry, biology, medicine, economics, etc

[Anonymous No.1808021]

>>1808009

You actually believe that, don't you? That's precious.

[Anonymous No.1808022]

>>1807998
>>1807998
>>1807998
Every flavor of engineer is a fucktard without an English tutor. I have based my career on coaching Engineering students and professionals, teaching them how to write so that people can understand wtf they are thinking. It turns out that it is not the English language that makes this communication step so difficult, The problem is you fucktard Engineers can barely speak a language, whether it English, Korean, Japanese, Chinese or wtf ever you speak. You Engineers are lazy communicators!! Try harder! FFS!

[Anonymous No.1808024]

>>1807943
i said
>one of
not THE.

>>1807954
you know, a lot of greeks were gay so maybe

>>1807956
maybe.
the study of most sciences could be considered to deal with the empirical, I.E. that which we can observe through physical instruments. On the other hand, philosophy deals with ideals, logic, reasoning, truths and untruths, what is right and what is wrong. Does the empirical nature of something to determine its worth? Are things which we can taste and touch the only things worth studying? To answer this question you must ask why do we study things? for the sake of learning, for the sake of bettering society and oneself are two common reasons. is there anything which the intangible ideals study in philosophy disavow as concerning these two things? does the study of what is right and wrong not better society? does the study of what a human beings purpose is, and how he should live his life not serve some benefit to the individual? and, is not the study of the facets of logic, (for instance, the study of our intrinsic need for casualty as explored by Kant) do these studys not provide one willing to read with something to learn?

as for the counter argument of practicality, law and state come from philosophy, they do not exist as empirical in the world. they were created by those who would think. both are often considered practical.

as for the reliability of empirical study versus the study of relative intangible objects like good and bad, it is difficult to call one necessarily more reliable than the other since the instruments which we use to study the empirical, sight, sound, touch, these are arguably just illusions which occur uniquely in the kingdom animalia. of which they are reliable tools to measure, who can say?

[Anonymous No.1808028]

>>1808019
>They are important to us, but they definitely belong in low tier, computer science is nowhere NEAR as useful as economy majors are

I don't think I'm understanding your logic here. if something is required for society to run, it usually isn't just considered low tier.

[Anonymous No.1808029]

>>1808019
somewhat important, huh.

go ahead and live without anything computer related for a week. when you come back we can discuss why you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.1808033]

>>1807948
fuck you

[Anonymous No.1808038]

>>1808024
>is there anything which the intangible ideals *STUDIED in philosophy disavow as concerning these two things?

fixed for myself, here we have evidence of why i am neither a write nor an editor

[Anonymous No.1808043]

>>1808028
Yeah, computers are pivotal to society, i get that But somebody who has a career in any of the things I mentioned is more credible than than the guy who is well versed in computer science, so my point still stands.

[Anonymous No.1808044]

>>1808038
...of course i meant to say writer... you know what just dont even bother reading my post, i really need to proofread a lot more

[Anonymous No.1808047]

>>1808033
I dont know why, but that post made me laugh for some reason

I think it has to with the fact that it was so simple

[Anonymous No.1808050]

>>1808043
Also, I was referring to people who have a career in a computer science related field as "somewhat important" not computers themselves, obviously.

[Anonymous No.1808051]

>>1808024

You are the reason why humanity is sucking at things right now. If I hold up a banana and say "this is yellow", I am right. Science can explain why this banana is yellow in detail. All philosophy can do is sit in the back and yell "BUT WHAT IF IT ISN'T ACTUALLY YELLOW YOU GUYS LOL"

Philosophers are the trolls of the world.

[Anonymous No.1808053]

>>1808043
That doesn't even make sense, how would an economy major be more useful than someone in CS? What do you mean by 'credible'? Less money, or what? I don't understand

[Anonymous No.1808055]

>>1808050
oh shit, I missed business & law. People have careers in those fields are incredibly more credible than somebody in a computer science related career. This isn't even debatable

...Man, OP's list is so shitty. It's like a 14 year old made it or something.

[Anonymous No.1808060]

>>1808051

hahahahahaha first time i laughed in this thread

[Anonymous No.1808067]

>>1808055
Ok, now you're just trolling.

[Anonymous No.1808071]

Lol this thread is like teen angst. You guys mad.

Philosophy gave birth to science = fact.

Philosophy = Dad
science = little hipster kid lashing out

[Anonymous No.1808073]

>>1808055

You're fucking retarded. Modern businesses practically run on computers nowadays.

[Anonymous No.1808075]

>>1808053
I'm doing cal 2 homework, so I shouldn't even be posting here, but....

credible:

http://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=define%3A+credible&
amp;aq=f&aqi=g5&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1

and it's pretty obvious. Understanding our economy in this day and age can help you become far more notable as opposed to you having a little computer science related career. Especially in these times.

This an objective fact.

[Anonymous No.1808077]

>Salaries for all geoscience-related professions continue to exceed the national mean salary for all other science
occupations in 2008. Petroleum engineering salaries averaged $119,400, and salaries for geoscientists (except
hydrologists and geographers) averaged $89,300. Salaries for environmental scientists and specialists averaged $65,280, just $1,000 over the national average for other science occupations.

http://www.agiweb.org/workforce/Currents/Currents-024-Salaries99-08.pdf

Geology confirmed for Master Race tier.

[Anonymous No.1808090]

>>1808051
but... what if it isnt yellow? or, what if what i call yellow is really your blue? theres really now way to check

the point of philosophy, at least to me, seems to be to never stop learning, and to never stop realizing how much you don't know

[Anonymous No.1808088]

>>1808073
uh, no shit? On a personal level though, you'll become more wealthy by being more well versed in business.....

My god, you are supernaturally retarded.

That's like saying:

>Don't want to become an electrician? You ARE aware that you a electricity is powering your room.....right?


>>1808067
kill yourself. I don't have time for 12 year olds

[Anonymous No.1808092]

>>1808073
uh, no shit? On a personal level though, you'll become more wealthy by being more well versed in business.....

My god, you are supernaturally retarded.

That's like saying:

>Don't want to become an electrician? You ARE aware that electricity is powering your room.....right?


>>1808067
kill yourself. I don't have time for 12 year olds

[Anonymous No.1808102]

>>1808071

You're wrong on so many levels I can't facepalm enough times to keep up.

If anything, Science is the Dad and Philosophy is the angsty teen.

Science: "Here's how things work guys! Now run with it and make cool things so humans can be awesome!"
Philosophy: "But what if you're wrong?"
Science:"I'm not, see here's some experiments to prove it"
Philosophy:"But what if those are wrong"
Science:"Sorry, I couldn't hear you, I WAS FLYING THROUGH SPACE"

[Anonymous No.1808110]

I wouldn't mind getting classes in philosophy. I'd like to understand how humans think.

Seems like any logical move for intellectuals

[Anonymous No.1808116]

>>1808077
Fuck year! Future petroleum geoscientist here! Also, three cheers for nepotism!

[Anonymous No.1808117]

>>1808075
oooooo pikcahu thinks he's smart because he's in calculus 2.

enjoy wasting your time with unnecessary maths

[Anonymous No.1808118]

>>1808075
>far more notable

Linus torvalds, steve jobs, bill mother fucking gates? Do any of those ring a bell? Not like the third is the richest man in the US or anything.

[Anonymous No.1808121]

>>1808092

I'm retarded, huh? Just because I care more about actually learning things rather than just making money? Fucking hell man, your life must be boring as shit.

[Anonymous No.1808125]

>>1808102
hahahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.1808132]

>>1808102

>doesn't understand what 'philosophy' is

>doesn't know the history of empiricism and how philosophers created the practice and reasoned for it against speculation and religious explanations

girlslaughing.jpg

[Anonymous No.1808143]

>>1808118
yeah, they became notable during the foundation of it all.

However it's all fairly mundane work now.

Really, computer science being in god tier is actually more laughable than astronomy being anything above low tier. That's a pretty hefty achievement.

My point still stands that if you're well versed in say, business, your chances of becoming rich and notable increases ten fold when contrasted with a little niche job in computer science

Look, I know you're a neckbeard who spends his time on computers, so you have to justify your existence, but just let go on this argument. you're fighting an uphill battle

[Anonymous No.1808144]

>>1808090

Who cares? An apple is still an apple no matter what language you speak. Philosophy is just wasting time arguing about semantics when you could be doing real stuff instead.

[Anonymous No.1808146]

actually philosophy is still giving birth to some "sciences"

like cognitive science, consciousness...it is mostly philosophers doing all the theoretical work

[Anonymous No.1808149]

>>1807844
> Without Geologists, how would we know if volcanoes would spring up under our houses?

And more importantly, how would we find petroleum, without which our world would cease to function?

[Anonymous No.1808155]

>>1808132

>doesn't have an argument

>hides behind green text

fuckinglol.jpg

[Anonymous No.1808159]

>>1808146

Um, no? Try neurologists and biologists.

[Anonymous No.1808161]

>>1808143
>implying you will get rich as a business major

I know that you're clearly a mad business major who just finally realized that you will live the rest of your life making no more than 45000 a year, but that doesn't mean you have to take it out on everyone else.

[Anonymous No.1808163]

>>1808121
ahahahaha. Yeah, we'll see whose life is boring when I'm living in a very house.

You'll be across the st----no, you won't even be in the same neighborhood, who am I kidding? You'll be in the same middle class or upper middle class house with an average, mundane lifestyle.

Listen to Radiohead's OK Computer, it'll resonate with you

[Anonymous No.1808172]

>>1808161
>implying you won't get rich

Even if you won't be making millions, you'll no doubt be earning far more than a typical little computer science job

[Anonymous No.1808174]

>>1808143

> thinks computers are a "niche"

girlslaughing.jpg

[Anonymous No.1808175]

So, uuhhh..

I'm studying CS, am I making a big mistake /sci/?

[Anonymous No.1808177]

>>1808144

except semantics matter when you have problems and questions that dont make precise distinctions between different variables and your definitions are flawed and get misplaced

like space, time, gravity, energy, consciousness, momentum, everything needs a precise and coherent definition in order for a theory to be testable in some sense...

semantics are crucial also in law, math, economics, politics, not just science

philosophy of math gave birth to set theory, semantics are fucken crucial bro

[Anonymous No.1808179]

Computer Science graduate here. CS is instructed in a lot of different ways. Some institutions teach it as more of an applied mathematics (sometimes it is called this). Other institutions teach it as 'hurf durf programming'. The second approach tends to give CS a bad name.

Also, psychology can be much higher on the list (up there with CS and Engineering) if it's mathematical/cognitive psychology. Those are closer to AI degrees than they are anything else. The wishy-washy social psychology can die in a fire, though.

[Anonymous No.1808184]

>>1808163
Oh wow, he actually believes he will become rich with his major in business. I honestly want to believe it is a troll, but part of me says that he is really being serious.

[Anonymous No.1808187]

>>1808177

of course semantics are crucial, that is why philosophy is crucial

it always tries to clarify meanings, and protect against fallacies and bullshit

[Anonymous No.1808188]

>>1808174
no....Jesus Fucking...Wow.

the universe obviously isn't niche, but you won't become a millionaire by having an astronomy related career. get it? That's why shit like that deserves to be in low tier

[Anonymous No.1808190]

>>1808163

I would, but I don't listen to shitty music. Have fun in the rat race while I do something I actually enjoy. Hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.1808193]

>>1808175
Nah. I got my degree in CS and landed an $80k/yr job with full benefits and vacation. It's not a whole lot, but considering I'm strait out of college it's pretty good. Want to go back for my masters/phd because I fucking love research.

[Anonymous No.1808195]

>>1808184
Hmmmm? If you know what the fuck you're doing you can indeed become wealthy.

[Anonymous No.1808197]

>>1808187

hence why philosophy gave birth to science and jurisprudence

it tries to cut through bullshit and elucidate meanings...best subject there is for a human to study, everything else is a subsection of philosophy

[Anonymous No.1808202]

>>1808190
oh-hahahahahahaha. I'll understand that you'll be having fun, bub. I just came in here to tell you that CS inarguably deserves to be in Low Tier

[Anonymous No.1808203]

>philosophy gave birth to science and jurisprudence

>philosophy tries to cut through bullshit and elucidate coherent meanings...best subject there is for a human to study, everything else is a subsection of philosophy

Indeed ^

[Anonymous No.1808209]

>>1808188

Why the fuck does becoming a millionaire in something denote it's importance? How about the goal of making life better for billions of people? Is that not important?

[Anonymous No.1808212]

>hence why philosophy gave birth to science and jurisprudence

and gave birth to psychology, anthropology, medicine, etc

[Anonymous No.1808214]

>major in anything engineering, computer science, or math related
>get MBA
>make more money than the fucking retarded business undergrads

[Anonymous No.1808220]

>>1808179
>>1808193
One thing I forgot to mention that's kinda' nice about CS:

You can build anything in computers. With EE (another favorite of mine) you can do circuit design and simulation, but the actual cost of building a device is pretty high. You can drop $50 on a project pretty easily if you don't have a large base of components from which to draw. With computer programs you can say, 'hmm, I'd like a tool that will search porn sites for a certain face' and just like that, build it, no cost.

I did that last weekend. Still working on it.

[Anonymous No.1808221]

>>1808209
hey bub, electricians are involved with very pivotal stuff, too. Does that mean they belong in god tier? No. Just because you work in a field that's pivotal to society doesn't mean that you are on a personal level.

This is a tier list for careers. Something that's personal to you.

[Anonymous No.1808222]

>>1808209
Hint: He's trolling.

[Anonymous No.1808229]

>>1808222
nobody here is trolling. Almost everybody here has laughed at CS being in god tier. you're a delusional idiot

[Anonymous No.1808233]

What happens if you double major in mathematics and visual arts? That's what I did.

[Anonymous No.1808234]

one more thing...

I'm the guy who's picking on the little CS kiddies, however i gotta get back to this cal 2 homework. I'll periodically check your rebuttals at a less consistent rate

[Anonymous No.1808235]

>>1808175
>25% job growth over the next decade
>one of the highest paying fields for college graduates
>bad choice

[Anonymous No.1808238]

>>1808202

It is hardly "inarguable" when I'm arguing against it. Nice choice of words there.

Guess what, though? Computer Science and Nursing are the two most in-demand fields right now. Guess what else? Computer Science majors make the most money straight out of college.

[Anonymous No.1808242]

I believe
Long-term contribution to science and society > personal enjoyment > money made.
As the second criterion varies from person to person, we're left with the long-term contribution to society as the most important factor. Taking a functionality view (where if something does work or expands concrete knowledge) then the chart is pretty much right on.

[Anonymous No.1808257]

>make a tier chart with a few modest changes and a couple massive changes
>200 replies

[Anonymous No.1808260]

>>1808238
>It is hardly "inarguable" when I'm arguing against it. Nice choice of words there.


Just because you're making ill-conceived attempts at disputing it doesn't invalidate it's inarguable status. That's like a theist arguing whether or not evolution is real. You can try to argue, but it's never the less an objective fact and you're still wrong.


and I don't care how much money you'll be making right out of college, pal. Look up the word "hindsight'

[Anonymous No.1808261]

>>1808229

Awww, look at the precious little Math major! He thinks he can do something besides teaching with just Math!

[Anonymous No.1808267]

>>1808242
But you're wrong, you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.1808269]

>>1808242
No, business goes above everything else, because you are more likely to become rich from it. Major in anything math or physics related and enjoy never being rich, that's why business and economy belongs closer to the top, while physics and every other low paying degree goes to low tier, if not shit tier. Anyways, I have to finish this calculus.

[Anonymous No.1808270]

>>1808260

see

>>1808235

I win.

[Anonymous No.1808272]

>>1808143
I work for a company (which will remain nameless) in the top 10 fortune 500 companies. All the executives have degrees in computer science or engineering. ;)

[Anonymous No.1808287]

>>1808270
ok? I just told you to look up the word 'hindsight'

you'll stagnate where as somebody who is more well versed in business and the like are more prone to become more wealthy

okay back to cal 2 homework. Fuck this shit.

[Anonymous No.1808288]

>>1808267

He isn't wrong. He is right on. YOU are a retard for thinking that having a degree in "money-making" is viable with nothing to back it up.

Fucking wow.

[Anonymous No.1808296]

>>1808287

see

>>1808272

I win again. I can do this all day hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.1808298]

>>1808272
I'm pretty sure Bill Gates is well versed in business, too

[Anonymous No.1808306]

>>1808272
I said it somewhere earlier in this thread, but yeah, if you REALLY want to make money, get a degree in engineering, CS, or physics or anything related, then get your MBA. You will make way more money than any business major, the main reason why is because any dumbass can get a bachelors degree in business, getting a degree in engineering or anything similar and challenging proves that you are actually somewhat intelligent, and not just a braindead business major spewing out bullshit about how he will be a billionaire, with a mansion in miami driving 2 million dollar lamborghinis everywhere and shit.

[Anonymous No.1808307]

>>1808298
only when he had to be. he was a programmer first and foremost

[Anonymous No.1808314]

How about Psychiatry

[Anonymous No.1808318]

>>1808306
this this fucking this THIS

[Anonymous No.1808326]

>>1808288
But he isn't right on. Just because you're a drone that's a part of the mundane machine doesn't mean you're superior...That's god awful logic.

Let's put it this way:

Paul McCartney contributed more and influenced more people in a positive manner than any of your friends in any of those fields. His main thing was music, which according to that in the LOL tier.

I am going into business. If don't become slightly mentally retarded in the future, I'll become more wealthy than you. Thus I'll be superior.

This is how the game works. little romanticized shit like "But I'll be working for the greater cause" logic is plain horrid.

[Anonymous No.1808327]

>>1808314
If i were to go into medicine i would go for podiatry because i like feet

[Anonymous No.1808331]

>>1808287

R-R-R-R-R-R-RAGEQUIT

[Anonymous No.1808343]

>>1808307
"when he had to be"

Oh, like to get his business up and running and everything else? THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO, RIGHT? THE REASON WHY HE'S RICH AND FAMOUS NOW? RIGHT?


Of course, you won't be a bill gates. There never will be. Just like there won't be another famous astrologer.

Which is why CS & astronomy inarguably deserve to be in the Low Tier

[Anonymous No.1808350]

You fucking math and physics faggots don't get it. Youre NEVER going to be rich with your worthless degrees, sure, you can do research and make 60k a year, but you'll never going to be rich. I'm studying business, I'm going to be rich, and that's how it goes. I will make more money than you, so I will be superior. There is literally no way I won't become a millionaire with my business degree.

[Anonymous No.1808360]

You need to learn how to fucking read.

>>1808272

You use the term "drone" alot. That is precisely what YOU are. MAKE MONEY. MAKE MONEY. IF I MAKE MONEY I'LL BE BETTER THAN EVERYONE. MAKE MONEY. MAKE MONEY.

[Anonymous No.1808369]

>>1808326
>>1808343
>>1808350

this is a god tier troll right here

[Anonymous No.1808372]

>>1808360
>lulz I'll support my glorious nation and it's peoples by contributing to society! Heaven, I await you!

[Anonymous No.1808380]

>>1808369
Nobody is trolling, the fact is, you are NOT going to be making as much money as me, there will never be any famous computer scientists or engineers. You're going to be middle class at the very most, and therefore, you aren't as good as me. I already know I'm going to be greater than middle class.

[Anonymous No.1808379]

>>1808369
This is a full on retard, right here.


Look, I'm not denouncing math or anything.

In fact, how many people managed to get to calculus 2? It's not terribly hard but I've never the less noticed that it's not exactly popular on here. Maybe there's a reason for that.

[Anonymous No.1808393]

Nobody is trolling, the fact is, you are NOT going to be making as much money as me, there will never be any famous computer scientists or engineers. You're going to be middle class at the very most, and therefore, you aren't as good as me. I already know I'm going to be greater than middle class.

[Anonymous No.1808395]

>>1808350
>There is literally no way I won't become a millionaire with my business degree.
No trolling here, nope, none at all lol.

By the way, you don't get rich from working.

[Anonymous No.1808397]

>>1808372

Wow, you sure are dense and deluded aren't you.

[Anonymous No.1808398]

>>1808380
This is exactly what I was saying earlier, bro.

In fact, if you just scroll up a bit you'll notice that a variety of other people laughed at CS being that high.

Wanna know what's absolutely hilarious, though? I guarantee you that some of the CS fags are the same fags who denounced philosophy.

The irony is deafening

[Anonymous No.1808401]

>>1808395
I have a MUCH higher chance of becoming rich than you do, you can't be anything more than middle class with your degree. No matter how you see it, I WILL be making more money than you

[Anonymous No.1808404]

>>1808397
You sure are naive, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.1808409]

>>1808350
sadly for you my idiotic friend greed is not something most people interested in math and physics

pathetic consumer

[Anonymous No.1808413]

>>1808379

Okay. This is either a troll, or a 19 year old sophomore who still believes all the shit they told him about college.

Calculus 2, huh? That's pretty hardcore. Oh wait...

[Anonymous No.1808414]

Please stop using CS as an acronym for Computer Science, guys. I don't want to insult Counter Strike like that

[Anonymous No.1808416]

>>1808401
You don't even know what my degree is. And besides, an MBA with a focus in the energy industry is in my future, have fun with your undergrad business degree from a likely shit tier school brah.

[Anonymous No.1808423]

>>1808398

TROLL DETECTED

[Anonymous No.1808424]

>>1808409
Cool, that doesn't invalidate how CS should be in low tier.

[Anonymous No.1808435]

>>1808416
It doesn't matter, I'm better at business than you, so I will make more money.

[Anonymous No.1808444]

>>1808416
>shit tier school

>Harvard Law School
>Harvard Business School


the most prestigious school on the planet

[Anonymous No.1808451]

>>1808424

The entire rest of the fucking world has already invalidated it. You're just too naive and deluded and greedy to see it.

>Almost every executive of most Fortune 500 companies are CSCI/Engineers/Sciencemen of some sort

> HURR DURR BUSINESS MEANS MAKING MONEY RIGHT?

[Anonymous No.1808454]

>>1808444
Also...I mean...Fucking Harvard, man. Watch as these CS kiddies will still make an attempt to validate their career plans.

Just sit back and get ready for a gut buster

[Anonymous No.1808469]

>>1808451
First of all:
Link to greentext?

Second:
Most of them probably have one in business or law, too.

Third:
Most of them does focus on CS for their career

just look at their very career they have now to show you how worthwhile CS is

[Anonymous No.1808472]

>>1808444
>>1808454

you go to harvard hahahahahahahaha whatever you say bro

you sure do suck at arguing for someone going to harvard

[Anonymous No.1808479]

>>1808469
I think you're missing the point

[Anonymous No.1808483]

Math / physics double major here, I'm ok with this.

[Anonymous No.1808485]

>>1808469

see

>>1808296

Oh man. You go to Harvard Law huh? Why do you suck at arguing then?

[Anonymous No.1808494]

>>1808472
No I didn't mean to imply I attend there. I'm only 20 years old, you know. But like I said I'm doing my homework, so I didn't really articulate myself well.

I meant to make a point on how the most prestigious school on our planet focuses on those, so I found it peculiar that you automatically assumed that kid went to a "shitty business school" or whatever it was

And no, my arguments are impeccable. In the end the careers that make the money and what have you are the most valid. That's how a tier list in this regard is made

[Anonymous No.1808496]

>>1808485

he's coming up with a doozy, get ready for harvard educated LOLZ

[Anonymous No.1808501]

>>1808479
I think my point still stands

[Anonymous No.1808502]

>Be in College
>Study CS
>mfw Business Majors trying to crash CS classes in order to get a minor IN CS because only CS guys are getting hired.

That and the biochem guys but medicine is a given.

[Anonymous No.1808510]

>>1808494

Your entire argument is "i maek more money thus i is superior to you!" which is just simply isn't true.

Let me give you a tip: if you suck this bad at arguing you will NOT get into Harvard Law. Have fun working at Pizza Hut.

[Anonymous No.1808515]

>>1808485
ahahahaha that post was a logical fallacy, dip shit.

"I know people that support my claims. Therefore I'm right! By the way, don't bother asking who these people are associated with, silly boy!"


maximum trolling

[Anonymous No.1808524]

>>1808510
>which is just simply isn't true.

It's the only objective way can look at a list like this. Otherwise, either way you look at it the list is 100% subjective.

[Anonymous No.1808544]

>>1808524

Whatever man. I'm not going to bother arguing with a shit tier debater like you. Have fun getting into Harvard. (snicker)

One more tip before I leave: If you honestly think making money is what makes a man intelligent, your life is going to be absolutely miserable. Godspeed bro.

[Anonymous No.1808567]

>>1808544
who said anything about intelligence? That's completely irrelevant and has never once been referenced; almost as if you wanted to get it your system but didn't have the balls to articulate yourself earlier.

There's jobs that require a higher tier of intellect that's far above CS that isn't in god tier, though. So even if you want to bring that into the equation you'd still fucking fail.

Piss off

[Anonymous No.1808595]

>>1808567

I lied. I'm still here. Your argument lacks substance; you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. You also seem to have no idea what we were arguing about.

Your last two words proved my last point though. Perhaps I touched on a point close to home? The first few steps are the hardest buddy. Good luck. =)

I'm out for real this time.

[Anonymous No.1808613]

>>1807847

lol @ economics being troll math.

We CaN mOdEl AnYtHiNg!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.1808614]

>>1808595
my arguments don't really lack substance, you know. I don't need go in-depth when arguing over something so readily apparent and evident.

[Anonymous No.1808635]

all the people that make you feel things with their art and music fall on the lol tier

[Anonymous No.1808644]

Sorry, move over bros

[Anonymous No.1808653]

>>1808613
>If the CEO decides to innovate
>Decides
>mfw

Didn't know innovation was something you could just do...

What's next, economists modeling the number of pylons required?

[Anonymous No.1808659]

>>1807440
eh wondering what the criteria is though.

Brother got his J.D. with honors from Columbia Law recently, he's making about 100k a year starting. Not half bad.

Undergrad law? sure, shit tier. a lot of these fields vary based upon the level of education one attains though. For example, Physics is shit tier if you don't go beyond an undergrad.

[Anonymous No.1808667]

Computer Science isnt God tier.

[Anonymous No.1808671]

>>1808653

Well everyone knows that the amount of pylons required is always n+1

[Anonymous No.1808677]

>>1807440
Art shouldn't be on this list

[Anonymous No.1808679]

If this post is successful, then the /sci/ thread post cap >250.

[Anonymous No.1808690]

I heard that Computer Science, Engineering, and pretty much any math field is neckbeardus maximus teritory with a pinch of forever alone mixed in.

Are they right, yes, no?

[Anonymous No.1808693]

Fixed for accuracy

[Anonymous No.1808700]

wow you numbermonkeys are really insecure. who would've though?

[Anonymous No.1808705]

>>1808690

I'm an Ausfag studying engineering, and that could not be more wrong. Generally speaking I've noticed that engineering students are smarter and more attractive (no homo) than other degrees. psychology has the hottest girls but engineering is close second. All the bachelor of arts students are weird and kinda gross looking.

Basically engineer students are like the jocks at my uni.

[Anonymous No.1808707]

I'm sorry, but the touch of the woman, the smell of death, and even the awe felt when tripping on shrooms and recognizing all the mathematical patterns in nature are not things that can be "reduced" to an equation or some set of mathematical terms. Only complicated into it.

Mathematics is the language of how things move, but there's an entire dimension of feeling and consciousness you're missing out on. Things that are subjective and can't be defined or completely understood through the distance of empirical methods.

Without philosophy there would be no scientific method.

Without human consciousness there would be no curiosity.

Without art, there would be no means by which the absorption of scientific knowledge by a human brain would be practical or enjoyable.

Looking at someone else's life work and dismissing it as shit because you don't understand its value or don't want to is

A) A shitty philosophy.

B) Hardly scientific.

C) Enormously ignorant

and

D) Rather depressing.

Haters need to quit hating.

[Anonymous No.1808711]

>>1808707
They require such threads to feel better about themselves because their lives are such shit the only way they can feel better is by belittling others.

[Anonymous No.1808712]

>>1808705
>Basically engineer students are like the jocks at my uni
This is what engineering majors actually believe

[Anonymous No.1808715]

>>1808707

> I'm sorry, but the touch of the woman, the smell of death, and even the awe felt when tripping on shrooms and recognizing all the mathematical patterns in nature are not things that can be "reduced" to an equation or some set of mathematical terms.

You are wrong. We can't do it, because the equations would be too complex for us, but these things can theoretically be described mathematically.

The "dimension of feeling and consciousness" you refer to is not a dimension at all, but is caused by physical processes which occur in the human body. All physical problems can theoretically be described mathematically, and all problems are fundamentally physical.

[Anonymous No.1808720]

>>1808712

It's not what I "believe". It's a fact. You see, I actually attend university, unlike the majority of the people here.

[Anonymous No.1808730]

well it looks like I brutally owned the little CS kiddies

[Anonymous No.1808734]

how is law shit tier? divorce lawyers make more than most jobs i can think of that use the god tier degrees.

[Anonymous No.1808740]

>>1808734

Because lawyers are a detriment to society and hinder the progress of humanity in general. Fuck law.

[Anonymous No.1808743]

>>1808734
this list is widely discredited, and only a handful of 12 year olds take it seriously

[Anonymous No.1808745]

>>1807440
To be fair, philosophy and law (as an academic discipline, not a profession) belong at least as high as history

[Anonymous No.1808747]

>>1808740
maximum trolling or an angsty 12 year old

[Anonymous No.1808750]

>>1807491
>philosophy
>not top tier
WARNING: ASPIE SCIENCEFAG MADE THIS

[Anonymous No.1808756]

Anyone who thinks in tiers is a fucking retard. Full stop.

[Anonymous No.1808765]

>>1808747

No. The list is about two things. It's about how 'pure' the academic field of study is (hence mathematics at the top), and it's about how much that field of study / profession contributes to society. Law contributes nothing, and it isn't pure. Hence law is shit. QED

[Anonymous No.1808771]

>>1807665
The second step in the proof is not permitted, and it is not a property of limits.

Re-read the properties of limits closely.

[Anonymous No.1808780]

>>1808765
are you the OP? if so shoot yourself for taking tier lists seriously.

If you're not the OP, then I'm assuming the list is on how successful you'd be per career.

If it's not about that, though. Then the list shouldn't be taken seriously, and you'd just inadvertently make yourself look retarded for doing so if you do

[Anonymous No.1808791]

>>1808102
HEY FAGGOT, WHY DON'T YOU READ SOME DESCARTES DISCOURSE ON THE METHOD AND TAKE A CLASS IN THE HISTORY OF SCIENCE, YOU FUCKING RAINBOW ASS PUMPER

GODDAMN I'M A MATH GRAD AND I FUCKING MAD AT YOUR IDIOCY

[Anonymous No.1808794]

fixed.
/thread

[Anonymous No.1808801]

>>1807450
>>1807844
>>1807847
>>1808690
>>1808712

[Anonymous No.1808806]

>>1808765
>the list is about how 'pure' the academic field of study is (hence mathematics at the top)
No such consensus exists.
>and it's about how much that field of study / profession contributes to society
No such consensus exists.
>Law contributes nothing to society
Wrong.
>it isn't pure.
Subjective.
>Hence law is shit. QED
Ohh, lookit the wee lad using latin abbreviations; it's almost like he's got a real argument! oh wait

[Anonymous No.1808808]

>>1808715

You still don't get it. You're taking my use of the term "dimension" so literally, belittling my entire argument because I used it in more of a metaphysical, identifiable, easily-understandable, practical way, which basically adds to my point that thinking exclusively on the terms of math and science are dehumanizing and just not worth it.

You end up with all this information that you take so seriously, but nothing to do with it. You don't understand the value of human intuition; being able to feel around and explain, in a way completely understandable by the layman, what is going on without all the terminology and meticulous stuff.

I understand that math can theoretically describe these things.

But that's it, they can only describe. A long string of mathematical equations and relations outlining how each atom in two human bodies move and interact as the two humans make love would encompass millions of pages and certainly wouldn't hold a candle to actually doing it.

There's a time and a place for everything. EVERYTHING has value when used correctly. It's all good.

My point was is that the dismissive, pretentious attitudes of all these little students who want to assure themselves that they picked the "right" major (when they don't even realize that there isn't a right or wrong one because they don't dare consider the philosophical implications of the things they say) are cheating themselves out of being not only the smartest people they can be, but they're cheating themselves out of a life worth talking about.

[Anonymous No.1808810]

>>1808765
>law contributes nothing
>entirety of society runs on it
WARNING: 14 YEAR OLD ANARCHIST FAGGOT ALERT

[broncosfan !PHANTOM2V2 No.1808817]

boost biology and chemistry to god tier and you've got a legit chart.

[Anonymous No.1808820]

In order:

God tier: Autistics and low-payed sexually frustrated people, neckbeards.
Top tier: Statistically the most intelligent of any profession, dedicated researchers in the fastest-growing science, extremely hard working do-gooders, people who follow their dreams regardless of end gains.
Mid tier: Faggots, republicans, hippies, college bros too lazy to get a real degree.
Low tier: People who were shy and nerdy in high school, college bros too lazy to get a real degree, failed engineers, pseudo-intellectuals.
LOL: Republicans, lazy college party animals too lazy to get a real degree, people who dream of making a career out of arguing with people, kids who failed out of everything else, OH GOD LOL WHAT IS THIS, not true.

[Anonymous No.1808834]

>>1808820
i thought it was universally accepted that neckbeards have always been in shit tier - a reference point for all things bad

[­ No.1808933]

I don't differ too greatly from OP, but I'm going to college next year and I'm planning on taking:

History and Social Studies, Film and Computer Science. I wanna be better than everyone and prove it by knowing everything about their culture and shitting on it. :D

[Anonymous No.1808936]

>>1808933
culture is shit.

[Anonymous No.1808948]

>>1808936
aspie detected.

[Anonymous No.1808957]

I'm in school for Biochemistry and Genetic Engineering. Am I God Tier?

[Anonymous No.1808959]

>>1807440
It's ALMOST right, but exchange engineering with chemistry.

[Anonymous No.1808964]

Biochemistry should be it's own category...

Bitches don't know about my synthetic life and PROGRAMMABLE ORGANISMS!

[Anonymous No.1808969]

Double god tier here. Math and Comp Sci

[Anonymous No.1808988]

Doesnt this shit get annoying. It certainly is for me. Its all branches of the same thing. You can get a degree in whatever the fuck you want, but knowledge and innovation is what determines "success" Also they all relate to eachother. You cant have one without the other. Chemistry wouldnt be where it is without physics. And physics math, And math computer science etc. etc. Everyone who participates in these threads are disgruntled jellys that want to hate on people on a different path. But you are all on the path of knowledge so STFU with your hate.

[Anonymous No.1809001]

English major here. loling hard at this thread. So you have to spend 8-10 years of your life studying? What a waste of your 20's. Jeez.

But then again, color me surprised that /sci/tards need to collectively stroke their e-penises to mitigate the harsh pain of social rejection and a life spent scraping together funds for academic research.

Ah well.

P.s. I'm actually enrolling in law next year. Looking forward to being smart and getting any pussy lol. That's like daily life for you guys right?

[Anonymous No.1809002]

>>1808957
>>1808964
Literal God Tier - anything where you create life

also sage for tier thread

[Anonymous No.1809005]

>>1809001

Sorry, it was meant to read "not getting any pussy".

But i'm sure you already knew that.

[Anonymous No.1809011]

All of you are still young faggots if you speak only 1 language.

And Greek and Latin classics for 2 years makes everyone Gods.

Also, remember that Pythagoras murdered one of his students who disagreed with him! The lesson is that authoritarian philosophy isn't open to creativity. Don't be a dickhead!

[Anonymous No.1809021]

>>1808988
>>1808988
> disgruntled jellys

what's a jelly in this context?

[Anonymous No.1809023]

>implying that you will have a fascinating career in research and not immediately get a different job since the US is completely oversaturated in phds...

[Anonymous No.1809030]

>>1809021

It means "jealous". Try visiting /sp/ sometime.

[Anonymous No.1809038]

>>1808808
>>1808808
I think I missed some of the controversy, but I appreciate your quotation by Heinlein.

[Anonymous No.1809067]

>>1809023
>implying that you will have a fascinating career in research and not immediately get a different job since the US is completely oversaturated in phds...

who are you talking to?

Anyway, it sounds like you're stuck in the USA, which is quite a problem. I can commiserate with your dilemma but it sounds like you need more options. I can move around with a few options based on my language skills.

Maybe the problem with this thread is that it should have been started with every statement ending with, "IN THE ECONOMICALLY FUCKED UP USA"

... so drop the pretense of absolutes, and all the justification becomes clearer

[Anonymous No.1809084]

>>1809067

Where are you from? I'm currently studying my undergrad in geology in the UK.

[Anonymous No.1809253]

>>1809001
So wait, you did an english major before you even start law, and you're accusing people who do science of wasting time?

Not to mention that an english major isn't really going to help you with a career in law.

[Anonymous No.1809627]

>>1807978
physics and math double major here, enjoy your engineering without us.

[Anonymous No.1810263]

what a thread

[Anonymous No.1810682]

As much as I hate all the hating in this thread, I find the discussion really interesting.

I say archive this shit!

[Anonymous No.1810749]

[Anonymous No.1811064]

Hey /sci I was looking to find some tutorials on python. Its my first language so I thought I would start with something practical and easy. I would like tutorials that focus on practical applications and mathematics. Anything to point me in the right direction would be much appreciated