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Serious question /sci,
What do you all think of this site?
http://www.futuretimeline.net/
Immersive Virtual Reality by 2040, Being able to upload your consciousness into a vastly superior cybernetic host body by 2100, Antimatter Power Plants by 2120...
Does /sci think this is going to happen soon?
Pic related, my face when consciousness uploading allows for theoretical immortality.

>> No.1799618

>>1799610Antimatter Power Plants

ANTIMATTER DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!! RAWRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!

>> No.1799624

>>1799618

This. You can't get more energy than what you put in.

Antimatter needs to be manufactured, it can't be used for power production.

Simply because you need Von Neumanns to build a moon-wrapping carpet of photovoltaics around the Moon or Mercury, then feed power into Equatorial Supercolliders.

Then transport it.

Antimatter is only good as rocket fuel and as a good weapon. Can't use for power.

>> No.1799627

>>1799618
..yet

>> No.1799632

>my face when consciousness uploading allows for theoretical immortality.
mfw when you'd rather upload your brain into a computer instead of just dying and experiencing eternal peace

>> No.1799636

Maybe if you find the antimatter. I heard there is some in the far upper atmosphere as a result of high energy collisions or something.

Imagine how much there'd be in Jupiter's atmosphere, with the fuckhuge magnetic field

>> No.1799633

Everything else on the site is more or less legit.

It are fact, I know it because of my learnings.

>> No.1799645

>>1799636

Just nanograms, nothing that can support an entire country.

Maybe a high-energy industrial zone, but seriously, can you imagine the cost of catching antimatter from orbit, Penning trap it, then bringing it down to the surface without it slipping out of the trap, touching the walls and BOOM?

>> No.1799650

>>1799618
it does in 2120!

>> No.1799661

>>1799632
this could have been a decent thread.. but no, thanks to you.. its going to shit.

mother fucker.

inb4.... you know what the hell i mean

>> No.1799681

ok, and what kind of technology will we have in 3000?

>> No.1799695

>>1799681

Sticks and rocks.

>> No.1799716

>>1799695
awesome, can't wait for it

will we have discovered magic?

>> No.1799721

>>1799716
yes

>> No.1799727

>>1799716

If by discover magic you mean rediscover religion than yes.

>> No.1799744

Ask a libertarian transhumanist anything.

Also:

www.imminst.org

>> No.1799779

>Being able to upload your consciousness into a vastly superior cybernetic host body by 2100
>CORE Central Consciousness
Here we go!

>Captcha: CONCEPTS morosi
I agree.

>> No.1799854

Am I the only one here who thinks we are going way too fast?

>> No.1799860

>>1799854
Enjoy being left behind.

>> No.1799862

Virtually realistic porn, fuck yeah!

>> No.1799874

>projecting the rate of scientific progress over 100 year time scales.

no.

>> No.1800129

I read the shit on that site for 2 hours, and my mind was fucking blown.

It was kind of depressing, and makes me want to come to school with a couple uzis and mow everyone in sight down.

>> No.1800134

The 2040 IVR is what keeps me from suicide.

I personally think it won't be until 2060, though.

>> No.1800152

>>1799854
>Am I the only one here who thinks we are going way too fast?

Yes.

"Oh yeah sure we could save the starving billions of the third world and cure cancer and end all suffering from disease and all but THERE COULD BE EVUL ROBUTTS! MUST HOLD BACK TECHNOLOGY BY AANY AND ALL MEANS!"

>> No.1800160

>>1799854
>herp derp scientific and technological advancements are bad!

Fuck you, you are the worst kind of thinker.

>> No.1800167

>>1800160
>>1800152

We can slow down science but only at the chance of extinguishing all life.

I would argue that until we have substantiated evidence of non-terrestrial life it is an ethical imperative to spread life from our planet to any planet we can. This is because each planet which life colonizes increases the likelyhood of life's continuation - even in the event of a global catastrophe. Until we have proof that other life forms exist we much assume that life is rare and act appropriately.
Therefore it is an ethical imperative to put our resources towards developing the technology of spreading life to the local planets, and of course, the stars beyond.

>> No.1800175

>>1800152
>Oh yeah sure we could save the starving billions of the third world and cure cancer and end all suffering from disease
do we really want to do this?

>> No.1800184

just finished finally reading the entire timeline. the interesting thing about it is, while much of it may be fiction, and pure speculation, if you think about it, (i know this is a run on sentence) when there is enough time all of this can happen. Its scary but at the same time exciting. We were potentially born at either the best time in history, or the worst because we have to endure this future.

>> No.1800188

I think if this comes to pass, i will probably heavily modify my body and mind (if its all safe of course), but still retain my religion. This isn't supposed to start a religious argument here, but despite all of this, i hope to always believe there is something above. (even if it is a tiny bit higher than us when were practically gods)

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1800231

I don't understand how this site postulates variables like computing power growth rates. The Rate recently is hardly linear, its exponential with a new paradigm(quantum computing) just 5 years away. Fuck, there's nanomachines that WORK TODAY. The manhattan beach project is working for human immortality by 2030. The worlds first cyborg was created a few months ago. If anything, we could be most of shit shit thousands of years before this site predicts it.

>> No.1800237

>>1800231
>If anything, we could be most of shit shit thousands of years before this site predicts it.
>shit shit
What?

>> No.1800243

>>1800231

Should have proof read that.

"we should be seeing most of this shit thousands before this site predicts it."

>> No.1800293

Who here thinks there is a possibility of reversing local space expansion?

We could develop the technology to observe dark matter and dark energy, we could engineer some matter or energy using existing energy combinations and forms, that does the opposite of dark matter/energy, thus we could turn space into matter, and pull galaxies toward us?

>another surthenb

>> No.1800354

bamp

>> No.1800378

>>1800293
Matter and energy are conserved. The magical ability to reverse space expansion is called gravity. And energy and matter is what makes it.

>> No.1800381

Why does it think we'll continue to grow exponentially in our technology? After all, someone actually has to INVENT the shit and people/robots have to BUILD the shit before we can start using it. It takes a dedicated team of programmers months to program even the simplest of shit. You honestly think, once the technology becomes available, that people will be pumping out virtual reality cyborg time machines the next day?

>> No.1800384

>>1800378
So then we figure out a way to turn dark energy into matter? Should be easy enough, why does everyone doubt the idea?

>> No.1800877

>>1799610

I don't see some of these technolgies ever being produced or taking a long time to gain public acceptance.

In the US, we have a hard time building nuclear power plants, Europe seems a bit squeemish about GM foods, etc. I can't imagine that the general publi is going to be excited about a FUSION plant in their community when they protest a much less powerful and dangerous nuclear power plant in their city. I also don't see artificial meat gaining wide acceptance.

I think that's sort of a fatal assumption of a lot of futurists -- they LOVE technology and underestimate the technophobia of the average person. I just don't know if it's going to be easy to convince people to accept the idea of their desktop computer being smarter than they are. Judging by Terminator and Star Trek's Borg, I just don't buy wide acceptance.

>> No.1800887

>>1800384
Because dark energy is supposedly negative energy. If we turned it into matter, because of the conservation of energy, it would be negative matter, or exotic mater, which would repel other matter.

>> No.1800903

I'm sure someone here could whip up a formula to express the probability of a prediction holding true...

That said I wouldn't get excited about anything more than 10 years out, I imagine probabilities start shrinking exponentially around then.

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1800919

Prediction on 1968 made about how life will be at 2008. Quite amusing.

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/24/what-will-life-be-like-in-the-year-2008/

>> No.1800940

>>1800919
Funny stuff. He got a few things right, though, which I'm sure is more than will be said for OP's link.

>> No.1800942

>>1800919
From a technological standpoint the article is mostly correct on many things.

I find the inclusion of the phrase "keeping the economy running" highly ironic.

The only reason we couldn't have had cars traveling 150 MPH 20 years ago is because human operators can't handle or be trusted to operate vehicles moving at that speed. All we would have needed was guiding tracks built into the roadways to handle navigation but the infrastructures to do that would have cost trillions of dollars. And before someone mentions intersections, the expressways rarely ever stop. All of our roads should have been upgraded to use ramps and overpasses to phase out traffic lights at the very least but again that costs too much money.

An effective mass transit system would have been lovely, it's extremely lacking in most parts of the US. Maybe not moving sidewalks but automatic trams or shuttles would have worked wonders.

Pre-fab houses are currently possible in at least some form.

The major silly things are domes, rockets for transportation around the world, air pressure trains (though bullet trains would have been just as effective), robots doing chores (though we did get roomba at least), and an automatic food cooker is dumb because you'd have to fill your kitchen with conveyor belts.

I think I've made my point though.

>> No.1800953

>>1800942
He anticipated the ubiquity of frozen microwave dinners, though. Although, no woman is going to justify her existence as a housewife if that's what's for dinner. Also, in general, the ubiquity of the computer in everything... maybe to a fault -- that automated computer-controlled household and appliances reporting back to the central computer thing didn't really work out, though some people tried to push in that direction in the 80's and 90's.

>> No.1800970

>>1800919
I'll see tha and raise you...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Roads_Must_Roll

>> No.1800976

>>1800953
Various intelligent house designs are still in development though technology has become far more ubiquitous in the past 20 years.

>> No.1800999

>>1800231
>The worlds first cyborg was created a few months ago.
I'm trying to find a video on this, can anyone help?

>> No.1801014

>>1800999
I think it's a rat that's plugged into a computer, I forget the details and google keeps turning up resutls for gaming mice.

>> No.1801042

Still no Metric conversion? Future dosent seem right when people are still measuring things in terms of feet and thumbs

>> No.1801046

>>1801042
Soup I hear you'll be changing the definition of kilogram in the near future, what's it like to never know how much something weighs?

>> No.1801059

>>1801046
lolwut
Base unit is the gram (not the kilogram) and everyone knows its mass and not weight.

Or you going to start that it's different at 2 different places because of gravity crap agin?

>> No.1801064

I just read about Kevin Warwick's work and how he describes the human body as being so inferior to robotics.
>my face when cyborgs will take over the world
Before a particular dumbass replies saying robots aren't sentient. A cyborg is a human with robotic extensions you god damn moron, you know who you are, 0/10 effort.

>> No.1801066

I won't be around in 1000 years.... This makes me very very sad.

>> No.1801071

>>1801059
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilogram

It's probably being redefined either way...

>> No.1801075

>>1801064
I like the part where he thinks machines are going to go rogue and murder us all if we don't convert to cyborgs.

That's impossible if they were never programmed to kill humans at any point. Though who am I kidding the military will have killbots as soon as fucking possible.

>> No.1801079

>>1801075
Argh. You idiot, it's not a robot, it's a cyborg, a human and robot hybrid. The cyborg, which is still controlled by the human mind, sees all other humans as inferior.

>> No.1801083

>>1801079
No, I was referencing some of his other material. He's constantly talking about becoming cyborgs is the only way to protect ourselves from AI.

>> No.1801085

>>1801083
Oh, my bad then, there is a tripfag going around trying to say that cyborgs are robot controlled. Yeah, this guy is a bit crazy.

>> No.1801091

>>1801071
Seems its likely to be replaced by scientific formula rather than a physical object

So i can still go down the shop and ask for a kilo of cheese without any aggro such as the scales suddenly drifting off into space

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1801097

>>1799618
>Antimatter Power Plants

Wouldn't it be possible to trap anti-matter coming from a black hole and then annihilate small parts of it and converting the heat and light into electrical energy?

Pic related,

it's an anti-matter fountain.

>> No.1801099

>>1801091
Except you can't measure a formula, good luck finding the density of swiss cheese.

>> No.1801106

>>1801099
>Implying there isn't a formula for every action in life

>> No.1801110

>>1801106
>doesn't understand practicality

>> No.1801124

While I'm not sure about how accurate other things will be, I'm pretty sure they're right about Obama being reelected in 2012 under a weaker Democratic majority.

Say what you will about the guy, (and believe, how I do) he does know how to campaign successfully, and the Republicans really don't have a opposition that won't just charge up the main base while alienating everyone else.

>> No.1801134

>>1801110
>Wants to get pissy over micrograms

Suppose your foot is not a single thou over the exact foot (US or int?) as well right?

>> No.1801153

>>1801014
Isn't Kevin Warwick the world's first cyborg? Or are you trolling?

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1801155

how ever was writing this website was playing Eclipse Phase way too much.

this almost matches EP time line minus the Fall

>> No.1801171

2012:
>Brain-computer interfaces allowing the paralysed to walk again
>A cure for baldness

Ï doubt that will happen in 2012. I'm saving this page for future reference.

>> No.1801175

>>1801059
>Base unit is the gram (not the kilogram)
Yeah. Okay. Enjoy your shitty major.

>> No.1801201

>22,000 AD - The Chernobyl disaster site becomes fully safe
LOLOL
In thousands of years aren't we going to find a way to clean the area?
There's so much bullshit there that my head hurts.

>> No.1801228

>>1801171
Ive been keeping track of baldness cures for a couple of years now.

The two main ideas are histogen and hair multiplication, i think multiplication is the one thats going to do it.

Its where they get hair cells from the back of your head (where men dont bald) turn stem cells into them, replicate them then inject them into your scalp, its had good success in clinical trials.

I think by 2012 the cure for baldness will exist in labs, but it will have to go through all the FDA stuff before its available on the market, im sure China or somewhere will push it through early though to increase cosmetic surgery tourism.

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http://www.futuretimeline.net/21stcentury/2020-2029.htm

>The United States of Africa is established
>United States of Africa
>United
>Africa

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>One in five Europeans is a Muslim

>At the start of this century, less than 5% of the EU's population was Muslim. By the early 2050s, this figure has risen to over 20% - due to a combination of soaring immigration from Muslim countries and record low birth rates among Europe's indigenous population.*

>Britain, Spain and Holland have an even higher percentage. These countries, in particular, are going through significant changes to their culture, education, housing, economic and foreign policies. This is creating a great deal of social unrest.*

>This demographic sea change will continue, with some EU countries becoming majority Muslim by 2100. However, a significant percentage will be only "culturally" Muslim - rather than having a literal interpretation of the Koran - as mainstream Islam begins a reformation and modernisation.

FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>> No.1801329

>>1800188
religion is independent of science, thinking otherwise is backwards (athiests)

>> No.1801354

The way the site seems to be designed is that they simply collect all and every prediction with no critical analysis.

The end result is a mess of predictions made by futurists which have a hightechnologized vision of the future and some predictions made by laymen who simply looks at a graph and extrapolates it, finding out that we'll have a water shortage and see equal wages for men and women, some 40 years after strong AI is developed.

>> No.1801367

>>1801059
>Base unit is the gram (not the kilogram)

failure detected

>> No.1801400

>>1799610
Wouldn't upload your consciousness imply that its not tied to the brain?