/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.1784485]

Within the next week or two, the House of Representatives will debate two versions of the NASA Authorization Bill:

The Senate version – S. 3729:
- $2.6 billion for developing an American commercial spaceflight industry
- Restarts NIAC and funds new technological development programs
- Scraps the over-budget, behind schedule Constellation program in favor of a new launch vehicle
- The Senate voted UNANIMOUSLY in favor of this bill.

The House version – H.R. 5781
- Cuts funding for commercial development to just $164 million, shutting down COTS
- Cuts technological development and scientific research to continue funding Ares
- Continues Constellation's plan to return to the Moon... but doesn't fund development of a lunar outpost or even a lander.

If the House passes its version there will be no commercial replacement for the shuttle, no NASA LV for another seven or eight years at best, and NASA's scientific research, unmanned missions, and technological development will continue being cut, delayed, and stalled.

If you think the House bill is complete and utter bullshit, I recommend the following:

1. Look up your Representative.
2. Call your Representative, tell them to vote against H.R. 5781 in favor of the bill already passed by the Senate.
3. Convince at least one other person to do the same.

[Anonymous No.1784494]

We stopped caring about space after 69.

[Anonymous No.1784519]

So much for Mars I guess

Leave it to the Chinese

;_;

[Nerva No.1784595]

>>1784519
The Chinese space program is really primitive
they have only put men in orbit a couple times

Russia is far more advanced then the Chinese

But the truth is that the only ones with a chance of getting out of earth orbit in the next 20 years is NASA+private industry

and Britain might get a cheap ride to orbit

[Anonymous No.1784648]

>>1784595
>But the truth is that the only ones with a chance of getting out of earth orbit in the next 20 years is NASA+private industry

All the more reason to back the Senate bill.

[Anonymous No.1784651]

>The Chinese space program is really primitive they have only put men in orbit a couple times
> Russia is far more advanced then the Chinese
No shit. Gagarin was orbiting the earth before most of us were born.

But Russia is a shadow of the former USSR, while China is on the rise. China may be behind now, but eventually most of the US space program will have "Made in China" stickers on it.

[Anonymous No.1784939]

>>1784651
China's doing one launch every couple of years and is making little effort to accelerate that.
Given their history with space exploration (they scraped two entire space programs before this one) I wouldn't be surprised is Shezhou get's scrapped before the end of the decade.

[Anonymous No.1784946]

>>1784519
Fuck mars. We need to focus on the moon. I mean the chinese and russians need to focus on the moon.

[Anonymous No.1785096]

Stop focusing on where we'll be in twenty or thirty years, and start focusing on whether we'll be going anywhere at all.

If the House bill passes, space exploration will be grounded for the next 10+ years and stuck in LEO for a decade or more afterwards.

[Anonymous No.1785105]

When is the vote anyway?

[Nerva No.1785113]

>>1784648
agreed I back the senate bill

[Nerva No.1785119]

>>1785105
I remember hearing something that its at the end of the week

[Anonymous No.1785133]

>>1785105
Well, Congress is supposed to have a finished budget by the end of the month... though with all the squabbling and filibustering it could get pushed back... which would be very bad.

If Congress doesn't pass a NASA budget, they use the existing plan for funding, which means NASA won't just be stuck working on Constellation another year, they'll be stuck doing it on the same insufficient budget as before. NASA will essentially lose a whole fucking year.

Called my congressman today, sounds like he's going to back the senate bill. Keep it up guys!

[Anonymous No.1785149]

>>1785133
>>1785119
would putting up those flyers explaining the situation at my college still be worth doing

[Nerva No.1785160]

Do anything you can you help the cause

The best thing to do would be to call your representative

[Anonymous No.1785169]

>>1785160
I would, but I myself don't know much about the situation and I don't talk about things or try to convince others about things unless I'm 100% sure I know what I'm talking about

[Anonymous No.1785204]

>Implying calling your representative will change anything

They don't give a fuck. They really don't. I'm sorry.

[Nerva No.1785209]

>>1785169
then read up on the issue
http://www.nss.org/Press-Release-Sept-10-2010-NASA-Authorization.pdf

also are you an american?

[Anonymous No.1785217]

>>1785209
Yeah I'm in NC, about to read through the article now

[Nerva No.1785218]

>>1785204
if enough of us call they start to

[Anonymous No.1785233]

>>1785209
you know what thanks a lot for that man! I'm gonna print it out and highlight some key points. You're awesome man, I assumed you were gonna give me like 225 pages worth of info on the bill and expect me to read through all of that to find the benefits (which is what alot of people have given me and I can't be hassled to read all that)

[Nerva No.1785249]

>>1785233
Your welcome man
if you care to read it here are both bills in there entirety

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-5781
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s111-3729

[Anonymous No.1785277]

>>1785249
>Your welcome man
>your
just fucking with ya man

also
>here are both bills in there entirety
see pic

[Anonymous No.1785300]

sent an email to kucinich
knowing the way he feels about NASA he'll vote with the senate

[Nerva No.1785341]

>>1785277
I did not mean to offend just wanted to make it available

[Anonymous No.1785357]

>>1785341
>offend
you didn't offend man, it just that in >>1785233 I said
>I assumed you were gonna give me like 225 pages worth of info on the bill and expect me to read through all of that to find the benefits (which is what alot of people have given me and I can't be hassled to read all that)
and you posted it anyway (which isn't a bad thing). It just made me laugh and I decided to use a funny reaction image... This whole thing has just been funny to me, sorry if I have confused you I'm currently nodding right now and am in a weird but good mood.

[Nerva No.1785421]

>>1785357
happy to hear it

im tired and my brain is a bit week

[Anonymous No.1785442]

>>1785421
you're a cool guy nerva, thanks again for the shortened version :)

[Nerva No.1785461]

>>1785442
No problem mate

anyways i have to go to bed

[/scI/owan No.1785897]

>>1785149
I've been posting a couple fliers around my campus, certainly got people talking.

If you make your own, just keep it simple and to the point. Even an outline like the OP's post would work if you add in a few clever phrases.

[Anonymous No.1786438]

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[Anonymous No.1786660]

>>1784485
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ9QBdNs8pM
what does John Lear have to say about NASA?
pic releated.. John Lear - as in Lear Jet

[Anonymous No.1787539]

http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/09/22/still-playing-the-waiting-game/

Ugh... so it looks like Gordon plans on holding up the debate as long as possible. The stubborn asshole is refusing to even compromise on the House bill.

>>1785133 's "lost year" scenario is starting to look pretty likely... fuck

[/scI/owan No.1788513]

>>1787539
If that's true than we need more TN and FL anons calling Gordon and Nelson... try to convince them to come to SOME kind of compromise. And at the very least the rest of us can keep calling our reps and convince them to put pressure on Gordon and Nelson

If something isn't passed, it'll be disastrous for NASA and for private space.

[Anonymous No.1789708]

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[nerva No.1790151]

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