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1744825 No.1744825 [Reply] [Original]

Men often feel as if women are there inferiors, but are they justified? My argument is yes, although that does not necessarily mean that women are lesser beings. I have come to find that the reason many men hold women to be below them is that most women are lacking in the qualities (compared to men) that men value uniquely. Honor, courage, bravery, work ethic, sense of duty, ambition, fairness, justice, well-placed modesty, practicality, etc. This not to say that women are lesser beings, only that if all women were suddenly turned into men, they would still be greatly disliked by the male population because they lack what men value. As humans, women are not less, just different. They value different qualities that are not as "noble" as the ones that men value. A woman is unlikely to fight in a war simply because of a sense of duty, or because her honor is at stake. A woman is unlikely to come to a rational, fairly-judged conclusion because she values the interests of herself and her friends above any other. To men, this may seem childish and disgusting, but it is just different. What are your thoughts /sci/?

>> No.1744854

sage reoprted

>> No.1744864

>>1744854

Why?

>> No.1744872
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>> No.1744879

Very good observation tbh, but will be rejected by many because women will instantly be offended by saying men think they're lesser beigns and men will be offended by saying they're all the same but yes i liked it haha

>> No.1744884

>>1744864
Not enough religion

reported

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1744888

How do Homosexuals play into this theory?

(i.e. very effeminate men and very butch females.)

>> No.1744907

>>1744888

I really haven't considered them. Obviously this is about "averaged" behavior and values, and not gender. It just so happens that these values tend to correlate with certain genders. I would say it's probably the same. you don't see a lot of really effeminate men hanging out with very masculine men, and you don't see very masculine women hanging out with very effeminate women. My point is to dispel the idea of sexism as a belief of "inferiority," rather than a case of conflicting personalities. I would also say that there have to be jobs that women cannot perform as well as men, and vice-versa.

>> No.1744909

>>1744888

Homosexuality is a diesease caused by genetic difficenties. This Theory only deals with "Normal Human Beings"

In the same way that those with Down Syndrome don't apply to this theory, Homosexual's don't apply to this theory.

>> No.1744919

>>1744879
This. It seems like a great idea, but if you were to try and talk to someone about it, and if it was a woman she would instantly be offended.

The conversation would go a little something like this

"Well, I think that the idea that women are inferior to men is justifiable for the following reasons...." and you state your reasons/examples.
She retorts with "WHAT? YOU SEXIST CHAUVINISTIC PIG! HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT? I DON'T CARE WHAT REASONS OR EXAMPLES YOU GAVE ME, YOU'RE STILL WRONG BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU'RE BETTER THAN I AM"

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>>1744909
>Homosexuality is a diesease caused by genetic difficenties
>Homosexuality is a diesease
>Homosexual diesease

What is this, the 1980s?

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>>1744825
agreed 100%
There is nothing shallower than a woman.Except a black woman.

>> No.1744923

>>1744909

Homosexuality is genetic, but it isn't a disease, it's too common to be a real defect, and it spans across many species. I said silly things before I knew anything about biology too.

>> No.1744930

>>1744825
only problem is that out of all those values you state as beeing manly virtues, can all apply to woman as well, you also assume those are intrinsicly aligned with man, as though they are properties woman lack by definition. and even the arguement of if they were men they would still lack these qualities only makes your arguement less acceptable.

>> No.1744935

>>1744920
Why are you getting so mad? its the truth, homosexuality is a severe mental disorder.In all honestly homos need to be treated in asylums.

>> No.1744940

sereously, everything you said is 100 percent bullshit.

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>>1744923

>Rate of Homosexuality: 1 in 1000 among men, 1 in 900 among women
>Rate of Down Syndrome: 1 in 800
>Down's is a diffencity, Homosexuality is not
>FACEPALM

>> No.1744942

I believe OP is right, but not for some inherent, genetic reasons. I believe from the moment they're born, women are automatically treated differently, even in today's modern society where people try to say that everyone's equal, and it has its effects on their ability to make rational and honorable decisions.

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1744943

lesbians and dykes need to be either treated or exterminated.

>> No.1744950

>>1744930

Not OP, but I remember reading something about how estrogen or testosterone levels in the womb shape the brain to value different things when the baby matures. In this study, tomboyish girls held adventure, honor, duty, and justice in higher standing than very effeminate girls, and the same held true for males.

It could be an issue with brain chemistry which greatly affects which values take priority in an adult's life.

>> No.1744954

>>1744930

It does seem like it's easy to interpret it that way, so I apologize. What I meant was: Men tend to value these qualities because of genetic (yeah, some of them actually are intrinsic, believe it or not) and environmental factors. Women, on the other hand, are neither designed nor raised to value these things. Of course you could find many exceptions, but the vast, overwhelming majority of men and women will fall together in this statement.

>>1744919

I find that that is true with everyone, and not just women. Humans are very proud creatures, and yet we have enormous victim complexes.

>> No.1744957

>>1744950
agreed, tomboys make the best wives(less likely to cheat)

>> No.1744964

>>1744957

Wait. Is that true? Are men who are less macho more likely to cheat?

>> No.1744971

>>1744941
The rate of downs sounds right, but the rate of homos sounds too low.

Either anon is lying, or alot of people in California are.

>> No.1744976

>>1744964
woman with a princess complex have a massive sense of entitlement and no loyalty, and are incredibly selfish.They have no empathy.They will cheat, lie to you, and not feel the slightest bit bad about it.Woman without the princess complex are less likely to cheat because they have empathy.

Sadly about 80-90% of girls today have the princess complex, so if you find a girl that doesnt have it but also isnt a lesbian, you found someone special.

>> No.1744982

>>1744971

Google delivers.
"According to the U.S. Census Bureau 2000, 1.5% label themselves as gay. The 10% quoted is a myth. According to polls and public advocacy groups, at least 10% of the United States population labels themselves as homosexual. "

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_percent_of_America_is_homosexual

>> No.1744983

>>1744971
I can confirm his list is correct.By definition faggotry is a severe disorder/mental deficiency.

>> No.1744987

>>1744941

Down's is caused by an extra chromosome, homosexuality is caused by the naturally antagonistic X and Y chromosomes collecting genes to rival each other. "Ordinary" or not, homosexuality is a result of two genes functioning perfectly normally, just with some slight variations.

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1744988

fun fact- before 8pm /sci/ is infested w/scum. please set this thread on fire and all the ignorance within it.

>> No.1744992

>>1744982
1.5 is REALLY high.

For the Downs, 1 in 800 is only 0.12% percent.

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>>1744988

I don't think you read the whole thread. We're bringing some science into this, buddy.

>> No.1745002

>>1744987
No, faggotry is not normal behavior nor is it the result of normal gene interaction.I consider homos on par with retards and blacks.

>> No.1745009

>>1744992

Yup. That's one out of every 75 people, but that's what the US census counted. I don't know of a more reliable way to poll openly gay Americans for their numbers. Do you?

>> No.1745010

everything op has said and most of what ive read are just explaining pressures on gender from society, and what is expected from people but most people seem to ignore this and say it is part of their nature, when it is actually part of their environment, probly becuase it is easy to make issues like this an us vs them problem when it is actually something that effects and includes all of us

>> No.1745011

>>1745002

I'm going to stop feeding the troll now. I feel silly for allowing you to get this far.

>> No.1745028

Here's an interesting study.

>> No.1745030

Here's an interesting study.

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/48065/title/BPA_in_the_womb_shows_link_to_kids%E2%80%99_b
ehavior

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>>1745030
>http://www.sciencenews.org
>Nope

>> No.1745049

>>1745041

Look, dude. I'm just posting what science I can find on the topic. You're just trolling. Make yourself useful.

>> No.1745053

>>1744943
Treat the hot ones, throw away the butch ones.

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>>1745049

Sorry, /k/omando here, just be hanging around for a while, laughing at the lack of science on the /sci/ board.

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1745065

All women have to do is be morphologically attractive. Men require qualities aside from looks to be selected as a mate.

>> No.1745078

>>1745059
nobody thinks the real science threads are interesting

>> No.1745111

>>1745065
Think how shitty the human race would be if women were willing to fuck the first enthusiastic male that came along?

>> No.1745139

>>1745111
implying that the human race isn't shitty

>> No.1745197

>>1745053
Theres no such thing as a hot lesbian.Those hot "lesbians" you see in pornos only do it for our attention and aren't actually attracted to other girls.

>> No.1745211

>>1745065
oh god this makes me hate women so much more

>> No.1745228

>>1744825

sorry you got friend-zoned
next time, shower at least once a week

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WOMEN ARE BETTER THAN MEN! COME AT ME BETAS SEE WHAT HAPPENS.IM MORE A MAN THAN YOU MEN WILL EVER BE.

>> No.1745247

As a woman, I agree in general, excepting the long list of values that you ascribe to men. Work ethic, justice, modesty, practicality and ambition are not things I've ever considered to be the realm of man.

>> No.1745252

>>1745111
She doesn't have to become pregnant, putting out once in a while wouldn't hurt.

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>>1745111
as if bitches dont do this already? they ignore and shun genuinely good guys while spreading their legs the moment a douchebag asshole looks at them.When they get old and ugly they try to seek out these guys they formerly shunned, while still cheating on their good guy husbands with these assholes.

>> No.1745287

>>1745247
If women were modest the term slut wouldn't exist.
If women were just the term bitch wouldn't exist either.
And if women were practical, aside from reproductive purposes, we'd be seeing more women in both science and engineering and not the public library card, humanities, majors.

>> No.1745291

>>1745211

the problem is that men want to fuck all the time, and women just ... don't. So yeah, in an uneven playing field like that, the man will generally have to entice her with something other than the sex itself, or there's little appeal. Honestly, random non-loving sex is generally only gratifying for men. Even if the woman reaches climax (rare) there's the self-hate and guilt that make the experience not worthwhile.

Anyway, I could make an image exactly like that about trying to get a guy to stay in a committed and forward-moving relationship.

Only if you put out all the time
Only if you don't argue with me
Only if I don't have to keep treating you nicely anymore
Give me a lot of sex first, then maybe I'll think about it
Not if we have to actually hang out or do things not related to me getting laid
Only if I'm allowed to cheat if I see a chance of getting laid more often

>> No.1745306

>>1745287
your post makes so little sense it's astounding you cocksucking dick :)

>> No.1745308

>>1745291
>Even if the woman reaches climax (rare) there's the self-hate and guilt that make the experience not worthwhile.
So we have to suffer because of their illogical feelings?

>> No.1745309

>>1745291
>the problem is that men want to fuck all the time, and women just ... don't.
>Even if the woman reaches climax (rare)

rofl

spoken like a true virgin. 4chan is definitely your home for at least the next 10 years

>> No.1745323

>>1745291
Your idea of keeping a guy in a "committed" relationship is based on thinly veiled threats(my ex actually threatened to cheat on me with niggers before i dumped her ass) and traps(condoms irritate me, im on birth control(when you really arent) ) so you can trap a guy in a relationship and squeeze the life out of him.

Then you bitch about his friends, you don't want the guy to have any friends and hes not allowed to go and hang with his bros.But its certainly ok for YOU to go to the mall with your yapping bitch friends.Secondly you bitches almost always cheat and then you try to justify it.You are incredibly weak willed.

>> No.1745340

>>1745306
What other symptoms are you experiencing aside from your inability to understand simple sentences?

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>>1745291
woman are driven by emotion.They almost completely lack any logical train of thought.

Men are capable of emotion but we do not let it control us.We are driven almost entirely by logic.

>> No.1745353

>>1745343
what a lulzily trolly image

of course, the whole thread is shit, so...

>> No.1745358

>>1745343
>See a country full of irrational fucks in a male dominated society where going HOORAH and killing brown people is considered the epitome of civilization.
Yeah, awesome buddy.

>> No.1745359

>>1745343
that image is funny

>> No.1745361

>>1745353
butthurt liberal female detected.

>> No.1745366

>>1745358
They kill Muslims. Killing brown people based on skin color is wrong.

>> No.1745388

>>1745366
Nazis: JEWS ARE A RACE, NOT A RELIGION
Americans: MUSLIMS ARE A RACE, NOT A RELIGION

I'll tell you what: Any nation that is male dominated is probably either:

A) The one with the most imperialist tendencies.
B) Promotes conflict more than anyone else.
C) Probably has the most nuclear weapons.
D) Probably has the most political system.
E) All the above.

You decide.

>> No.1745403

>>1745388
>>1745353
woman libtards(are woman, other than religious nutcases, anything OTHER than liberal? thought so) SO asspained about being embarrassed and humiliated, and put in their place

>> No.1745409

>>1745403
I'm sorry, could you rephrase that? I don't speak the language of retarded conservative jingoistic xenophobic rhetoric.

>> No.1745413

>>1745388
Islam is a religion, people that follow Islam are called Muslims. If some people call them a race then its their faulty syllogism, not mine.
And I pick A for Awesome, why the fuck would I share my resources with someone else? I guess a world run by women would be communist.

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>>1745409
>>1745409
get back to the kitchen

>> No.1745422

>>1745409
So dumb that she can't even understand a republican.

>> No.1745426

do not even start on the debate of Judaism.

is it a religion? what about all those "jews" who dont practice the religion, but claim to be jewish?

is it a race? what about all those "jews" who have been "accepted into the faith" by the conversion of some ancestor?

what about the "jewish if mother was jewish" claim? how many generations of "jewish" blood does your mother's family have to have to be considered jewish?
honestly, the reality of the situation is this:

some people claim judaism is a religion. some people claim it is BOTH a religion and an ethnicity (these are typically hardcore Israeli rabbinical elders who make decisions about citizenship opportunities for emmigrants), and some claim it is purely an ethnicity that is simply associated with a religion.


there is no single answer and jews use whichever definition suits them at any given time.


Islam is a religion. if you practice Islam, you are a Muslim.

Arab is an ethnicity. Arabs were the first Muslims, and the "hard scrabble" nature of the Arab ethnicity in the middle first century AD (they were desert dwelling camel herders, they were hardcore motherfuckers that could fuck shit up all day long and were fanatical) is commonly attributed to be a major reason for the success of Islam

these Arabs swept over the competition, fucked shit up left and right, and took over the Arabian peninsula.

It was a relatively long time before Islam was sold as a religion to the masses.

it was originally a religion of Arabs (eg an ethnocentrically closed religion, limited in scope to those who shared ethnic Arab blood)

>> No.1745443

>>1745413
I don't know, maybe it's because there's always a Locke experiment- stating that resources would simply become exhausted. This excludes deliberate global conflict created by the monopolization of resources, and the casualties as a result. And also the effectiveness of the resource being minimized in such an environment.

To simply put it, a system without organized labor and equilibrium relationship towards resources is simply bound to exploit itself, and devour itself as a result.

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Women are also into such futile pursuits. Rarely do I ever hear of actual great women like: Marie Curie, Rosalind Franklin, and Linda Buck even with today's open-to-all-genders science community. Most women that we all know are either a Britney Spears or another spin-off of her. Also seeing as I went to the topic of music why do women listen to such garbage? Its either some hip hop song about being gangbanged or some black women yelling at the top of her lungs of what its like to be going through PMS.

>> No.1745516

>>1745492
Don't forget the quota universities have to make, that lets unqualified women that don't even belong in the class to pass with straight A's.(same applies to blacks but thats a different subject)

>> No.1745524

>>1745492
You forgot the all faggy boy bands and Justin Beiber.

>> No.1745531
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ITT butthurt manchildren who are angry at women because they'll never get laid

>> No.1745536

>>1745516
I starting to think that this isn't a patriarchal society anymore. Women needed to fill quotas, paying alimony for a child that you didn't want but the bitch had it anyway, and always doing as she tells you to.
Fuck, I wish I was gay.

>> No.1745539

>>1745531
Duh, but it still feels bad man.

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>>1745536
Blame the jew.The jew is the downfall of society.

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ITT butthurt virgin misogynists

remember to put the redundant "no girls"-sign on your little clubhouse door

>> No.1745617

>>1745596
ITT:an ugly, virgin(as in, no dick anywhere near you.no carpet munching doesn't count), fat dyke trying hard to defend lesbianism but failing utterly.

>> No.1745648

>>1745596
←/fa/

women's can't into science

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>>1745366
>They kill Muslims.

>> No.1745660

>>1745596

IDK about that, the worse I treat them the better they like it and the more loyal they are.

>> No.1745674

back to /b/ with you lot

>> No.1745696

>>1745674
back to the /fa/ and /a/ board with you

>> No.1745700

>>1745674
you forgot tits and timestamp

>> No.1745813

>>1745531
>>1745531
>>1745531
>>1745531
>>1745531
>>1745531
>>1745531
>>1745531
>>1745531
>>1745531
>>1745531
>>1745531

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>>1745813
ugly disgusting lesbians SO mad

>> No.1745898

>>1745660

>> No.1745900
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1745900

Gods! This thread sounds like a bunch of 11 year old kids from a shitty school.

Probably because this thread IS a bunch of 11 year old kids from a shitty school.

/b/ too jaded so you decided to troll here? Again?

>> No.1745923

ITT men saying that all men are reasonable, rational beings full of courage and goodwill, then demonstrating the opposite truth.

>> No.1745942

>>1745923
I don't think most of these people have hit puberty yet.

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>>1745900
>>1745923
>>1745942
samefag(or should i say samedyke?)

>> No.1746018

Currently i'm chatting regularly with a 20yr old chick, it's not a 10, but on my scale is a 8 or something like that, i like thin flat chested girls.

The thing is, she is studying to be teacher, and it's on her final year. She has the best scores.

At first, i was really atracted, but then during a conversation:

she: I don't watch black and white movies
me: Ah, well, it's allright...
she: Also i don't watch pre2000 movies.
me: ...

that's not a real problem, there are people that just don't want to watch movies

she: I don't read books
he: you don't have time i guess, with all the studying
she: no, it's boring
he: ...well...

then, she started to talk about Twilight, and how good it was, and how the actors were the best actors of the world.

I almost killed her when she critiziced Calvin & Hobbes.

The sad part, is that this chick is supposedly an intelligent, illustrated person. You don't want to talk with the rest of them in my country...

tl;dr Girls around here are like neanthertals, since I moved here i have not been able to have a word about nothing moderately intelligent.

>> No.1746039

>>1746018
lol didnt you know dude? teachers(dont confuse with college professors) are dumbfucks that dont know shit(except for high school math teachers they deserve some respect).

>> No.1746064

saged and reported for trolling

>> No.1746066

>>1746018
those who can't, teach

>> No.1746109

>>1746064
butthurt dyke

>> No.1746117

>>1746018
>Also i don't watch pre2000 movies.
lolwut?

>> No.1746124

>>1746039
my mom is a high school physicist

she was brilliant, but did not into research because she got prego

now she has 4kids and watch soap operas

I fucking hate myself and my siblings for that ;_;

>> No.1746135

>>1746124
your mom hates you for that and because you are on 4chan

>> No.1746164

>>1746124
physicist deserve respect same as math teachers.The rest of them are dumbfucks.

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1746182

>>1746135
>that post killed a part of me because it makes sense

>> No.1746188

>>1746182
Your pain brings me joy

>> No.1746192

ITT ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE AND EXCEPTIONAL CASES.

and you call yourself scientists...

>> No.1746241

>>1746018
did you move to Brazil?