/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.1744040]

Okay, I initially was going to ask this in /new/ -because they're the ones always talking about it- but I want a serious answer, so I decided to ask here instead. Please forgive my ignorance.

Essentially, they're always saying that all the wealthy, developed countries are wiping themselves out of existence with low birth rates. That once the population starts shrinking, the race is doomed. That Japan, Australia, and all of Europe will eventually no longer have their native population because Hispanics and Muslims are outbreeding them. That in 50-100 years time, whites will simply cease to exist or some shit.

So, if this is true... Why do we even bother with endangered species? Aren't they doomed to cease existing due to their limited gene pool, and shrinking population?

Just, someone explain this shit to me. Please.

[Anonymous No.1744062]

No. Especially not in 50-100 years' time.

[Anonymous No.1744067]

[Anonymous No.1744071]

You should probably stop reading /new/

No-one consider 500-600 million endangered. Immigrant birth rates after a generation or two tends to normalize anyways. .

[Anonymous No.1744075]

>>1744040

That's why Hispanics, Arabs, and Niggers will take over the planet.

In a couple million years, only the above will be left, we'll be back in the paleolithic age.

[Anonymous No.1744089]

Wow, /new/ sounds like a bunch of tea party conspiracy racists.

[Anonymous No.1744097]

>>1744089
>>tea party

Oh fuck you, don't compare them to /new/, you know nothing about the tea party.

[Anonymous No.1744105]

>>1744097

tards is tards, man

[Anonymous No.1744107]

>>1744097

Yea I do. I used to be a libertarian. the tea party is basically a libertarian revolt within the republican party (since that bloc of the big tent got ignored under Dubya) except, that it's been taken over by mainstream republicans with a power-hungry agenda and the inherent nationalism of the movent has filled the ranks with idiotic bigots and ignorant foxnews herp-derp rednecks who don't know what the fuck is really going on in US politics these days.

[Anonymous No.1744109]

>>1744097
>>1744089


Yeah, /new/ is much smarter, less racist and generally more well behaved the those tea party fucktards

I would rather elects one of the fags from new to a gov position, then any fucker who claism to be from the "tea party"

[Anonymous No.1744119]

>>1744105
>>1744107
>>1744109
ITT: People who know nothing about the Tea Party, but hate it on the basis that it doesn't agree with their political ideology, and therefore must be stupid, racist, and worthless. Ignoring the inherent bigotry and ignorance in their own statements to this effect.

[Anonymous No.1744136]

>>1744097
>"tea party"

LMAO, those retarded fuckers don't know history at all, and cant spell worth a damm.

They constantly misuse words like "facist" and "socialist". Even there name "tea party", is a historical term that they are using wrong. They really are the scum of America, and make the whole country look bad.

Democrats will end up in power for at least four more years, becuase the "tea party" make the republicans look so bat-shit crazy.

[Anonymous No.1744143]

Holy shit shut the fuck up about the tea party.

[Anonymous No.1744151]

>>1744136
>>cant spell worth a damm.
>>cant
>>damm.
>>Even there name

This is a troll... right? There's just an epic level of stupid in this post. For starters, the Democrats, by their own numbers, are just about to lose the house in the mid-term elections, and Obama can't possibly get relected at this point. His only opponent could be Gary Coleman, and he'd still lose, because he promised everything, and delivered jack shit.

[Anonymous No.1744155]

>>1744136
republicans ARE bat-shit crazy. And if they aren't bat-shit, then they're Gordon Gecko which is just as bad.

[Anonymous No.1744159]

>>1744119

Awww.....did we hurt the little "tea babies" feelings? I knew retards came to /sci/, but I didn't know complete fucking racist morons came to /sci/.

How do you even have time to use the internet? Shouldnt you be jacking off to Glen Beck right now?

You are no scientist, and a very narrow minded fuck. Please leave /sci/ and dont come back.

[Anonymous No.1744162]

>>1744119

No, actually, the Tea Party's politics are laughable by themselves, there aren't any coherent or reasonable points to address. So attention turns to the ignorant/redneck/bigot demographic- while it's not all or even most of them, they're certainly the ones who are shrieking the loudest. Fucking lool.

Anyway, birthrates? It's well known that birthrates fall as standard of living and life expectancy increase. Any population explosion is mostly due to social/cultural factors motivating childbirth lagging slightly behind lower incidence of disease due to modernization of medicine.

People have lots of babbys, lots of babbys dies.

Introduce medicine.

People have lots of babbys, babbys dies less.

O shit too many babbys.

Have less babbys.

The end.

[Anonymous No.1744164]

This thread went down the shitter quickly.

[Anonymous No.1744171]

OP, use the de-evolution of this thread as your base model for what will happen to the population.

I'm ashamed of you /sci/.

[Anonymous No.1744176]

this thread is dildoes

[Anonymous No.1744177]

>>1744119

And how does that honestly differ from any other president we've ever had?

Either way I'm up in the air on that one, people in 'murica still have a lot of idealism to burn off; Obama may just get himself elected again. If he actually had some balls, it might not be a bad thing, either.

[Anonymous No.1744178]

>>1744151
>Obama can't possibly get relected at this point

How fucking reatded are you? Of course he will get re-elected. Are you new to politics? GW had a much much much worse approval rating and still got elected.

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but despite what Fox news tells you, most of America is ok with Obama.

[Anonymous No.1744181]

>>1744164
I blame those who watch Glen Beck and think it is news

[Anonymous No.1744182]

>>1744178
It's not that America likes Obama, it's that the Republican party will manage to find someone that Americans hate even more to run against him.

[Anonymous No.1744183]

>>1744182

Like Glenn Beck

[Anonymous No.1744185]

>>1744040
This is now an anit FAUX thread, post if ya got'em!

[Anonymous No.1744197]

lol@people in this thread implying politics isn't reactionary sensationalism.

[Anonymous No.1744203]

>>1744182
Didnt say "like", I said was "ok" with.
Yeah, if someone better came along, maybe I woudl give them a chance. But it is not likely the republicans can produce a strong canidate. Plus you forget how "popular" Obama can get. He totally murdered McCain last time. He really knows how to give a good speech and get people on his side when need be. I imagine when election time comes, Obama will win by large numbers once again.

[Anonymous No.1744204]

>>1744136
What's a facist? I only know fascist from the latin fasces.

[Anonymous No.1744205]

contributing

[Anonymous No.1744216]

>>1744205
>obama/biden
>osama bin landen
hahaha oh wow

[Anonymous No.1744221]

>>1744204

[Anonymous No.1744225]

>>1744204

Fascist is something you call someone you dislike or disagree with. If your cat pukes a hairball on your rug, he's a fucking fascist Nazi sympathizer. Similarly if he scratches the couch he's a pinko commie socialist illegal immigrant nigger jew.

[Anonymous No.1744232]

>>1744225
I was commenting his obvious misspelling of the word. I do know what a faScist is.

[Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. No.1744235]

Probably won't be a problem by 2029, with the cure for aging and all.

[Anonymous No.1744236]

>>1744204

Fascism is a system where authoritarian nationalist rulers control society in a totalitarian manner, whilst usually letting the market system function in some way. HOWEVER, the hallmark of Fascist economics is that the authoritarian government can "hijack" the market economy at any time, and give both incentives and quotas to industry such that the market as we would call it ceases to exist and becomes a tool of the state's will (such as when Hitler went to war).

Leftfags has the mistaken tenancy to believe that Fascist economics = rampant unregulated capitalism such that a plutocratic oligarchy of evil corporations buys the government off. Of course, this is not fascist economics, it is just plutocratic oligarchy. Anyone in their right mind doesn't want that unless you're a Gordon Gecko motherfucker.

In any event, the Tea party people don't know thier ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to either of those definitions.

[Anonymous No.1744238]

>>1744232
statistically highly unlikely

[Anonymous No.1744244]

>>1744216
I know, seriously, Faux News is like some shit a 12 year old with down syndrome came up with. It really isnt news at all.

Its just entertainment, and it is pretty funny, cause they are so stupid. It kinda reminds me of the old school Bevis and Butthead cartoon. At least Bevis and Butthead showed music videos though.

[Anonymous No.1744261]

>>1744238
Maybe in herp derp America, but not where I live.

[Anonymous No.1744265]

>>1744225
According to Faux news and the Tea baggers, you are correct.

I can just use them however I want, and make up the meaning as I see fit.

LMAO...FAUX SO CRAZY
Its like CNN little retarded brother, who has serious anger issues and cant stop making shit up

[Anonymous No.1744309]

>>1744236
this is what Obama needs to man up and to. Hijack the fucking economy and force us all to make solar panels in the great patriotic war against global warming. Fuck freedoms. All for the state nothing against the state.

We shall call our great leader "Der Negro"

[Anonymous No.1744312]

derp

[Anonymous No.1744347]

>>1744236
When discussing fascism, one must look primarily at Mussolini's government, as this was the canonical implementation. Nazism borrowed much of it, but was different. Fascist economics included certain defining features such as 1) price and wage controls, 2) social welfare and public works programs, 3) nationalization of industries including the petroleum industry, 4) creation of syndicates for each industry -- which according to propaganda were for self-regulation of the industry and cooperation with the government, but in reality were mechanisms for government control over each industry, and 5) the confiscation of profits from industries accused of profiteering, such as arms makers.

I do not care for fascism, personally. I a tea party movement sympathizer.

[Anonymous No.1744373]

>>1744347

The problem is that Tea party (ist's) use the word facism as a description for anything they don't like rather than a political term.

They do they same thing with socialism and communism. That's why they can describe Obama as a communist facist in all seriousness.

[Anonymous No.1744376]

>>1744040
>I a tea party movement sympathizer

It is nice to sympathize with the mentally retarded, but you really shouldnt encourage there blunder through politics. They are only gonna get laughed at.

[Anonymous No.1744400]

>>1744347
Another problem with the scum (tea baggers), is that the movement has little, if no, prinicples.

They are not fighting or representing anything concrete, they are not trying to accomplish anything really. It is just a bunch of red necks that dont like Obama. It is not a political movement is it just a bunch of angry republicans.

[Anonymous No.1744409]

>>1744225
oh anon you make me lol

[moediggity No.1744505]

>>1744400
indeed

[Anonymous No.1744507]

>>Thread that has nothing to do with politics.
>>Butthurt liberal retards immediately turn it into an anti-conservative thread, screeching that any and everything they don't like is insane, retarded, and backwards as if simply spewing insults in a grade-school manner make for arguments.

Jesus fucking christ, THIS THREAD ISN'T ABOUT FOX NEWS, THIS THREAD ISN'T ABOUT GLENN BECK, THIS THREAD ISN'T ABOUT THE TEA PARTY, THIS THREAD ISN'T ABOUT IMAGE MACROS OF SARAH PALIN YOU GIANT FUCKING DOUCHEBAGS.

And holy shit, you're claiming Obama's popularity will get him re-elected? He isn't popular anymore retards, especially not with Liberals. We still have troops in Iraq. Gitmo is still open. He made the war in Afghanistan a much bigger, giant deal. The health care bill was watered down bullshit. He's managed to come down on BOTH wrong sides of every fucking issue he's spoken publically about. "The muslims are within their rights to build the mosque, but I don't approve of it." Great, now the people who don't want it built are upset with you for saying they have the right to -which, yeah of course they do- and the people who do want it built are upset with you for saying you don't approve of it.

And speaking of popularity, Glenn Beck is the second most loved television personality in the country, taking second place only to Oprah. O'Reilly comes in tenth place.

And while I'm at it, 37% of the country idenfities as Conservative, while only 17% identifies as Liberal.

YOU'RE THE MINORITY. YOU'RE THE GROUP CONSIDERED BAT-SHIT INSANE. FUCKING DEAL WITH IT NUTBAG.

[SkiddieKript !!D0wYNBTrK/I No.1744511]

What's more important than birthrates is territorial control.

Once nonwhites become any significant portion of the population the previously White country is essentially doomed.

To answer your question though, liberal morons obsess over microscopic things while purposefully ignoring the obvious.

It's not that White countries couldn't be kept White, it's that liberals do all they can to prevent it.

If I could permanently remove one group it would be liberals, the nonwhites would then be easily dealt with.

Also since we're on the topic of fascism I might as well chime in: I am full supporter of it, assuming it's the right kind ;).

[Anonymous No.1744517]

>>1744373
I haven't noticed that. I've listened to Glen Beck speak once or twice and I've never noticed a misuse of the word fascism or socialism. (I don't remember for sure if he used either word, but I would have noticed if he misused them.)

[Anonymous No.1744518]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fevga9jUC48
tea party at its best

[Anonymous No.1744524]

>>1744040

This thread is a fine example of why /sci/ is shit.

[Anonymous No.1744532]

>>1744507
and
/thread

[Anonymous No.1744530]

>>1744119

I don't know. I think I hate the tea party, because time and again they've shown themselves to be racist, ignorant, and stupid.

[Anonymous No.1744541]

>>1744507
>>1744511
>>1744517
>>1744524
butthurt conservatards from /new/

inb4 HURR YOUS A BUTTHURT LIB3REL

[moediggity No.1744542]

>>1744524
quit crying
>>1744507
first off, your stats are fake. all polls are fake. your propaganda about how this is a conservative nation makes me want to find you and kill you so we can up the collective iq of this world by at least 40 points.
now go ahead and source me a fox or other right wing owned media link because we all know how credible fox and all of them are.

[moediggity No.1744547]

>>1744541
dude, all of the conservotards are from stormfront. it makes the quality of the board go down.
they also think that its a conservative board. most of them samefag their own threads. its pathetic

[SkiddieKript !!D0wYNBTrK/I No.1744548]

>>1744541

I post here more then I post on /new/ dimwit.

[Anonymous No.1744562]

>>1744548

Your posts are shit. They always are. You're one of the most scientifically illiterate tripfags on this board. In addition to that you pawn off your meager knowledge as if you are actually an expert in anything.

Seriously, are you just a troll or are you actually that stupid, vapid, narcissistic, and mentally unstable?

[Anonymous No.1744578]

>>1744542
Actually, my statistics were wrong. I was recalling the statistics from the last year of Bush's term, when it was 37% to 17% respectively.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/52602

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/conservatives-single-largest-ideological-group.aspx

NOW IT'S 40% CONSERVATIVES, 20% LIBERALS. SUCK IT.

Also, Glen Beck:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/the-only-person-more-popular-than-glenn-beck-is-oprah/

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/Default.aspx?tabid=447&ctl=ReadCustom%20Default&mid=1508&am
p;ArticleId=252

Again, deal with it you delusional twit.

[SkiddieKript !!D0wYNBTrK/I No.1744584]

>>1744562

lol you sound mad bro. I don't engage in pseudo-intellectual circle jerking, that doesn't mean my posts are "shit".

You don't like my posts on principle. I think it infuriates you that a racist stormfront poster doesn't fit your stereotypes.

Needless to say I won't be changing :D.

[Anonymous No.1744587]

>>1744547
Is all you're capable of doing to argue against the other side comparing them to hate groups, and saying they're all the same? If I were to do that with Liberals, I could say you were all clan members who hate homosexuals, kill young girls with your cars, and patronize prostitutes.

I mean, you realize the Westboro Baptist Church are liberals, right? Please dispute this so I have reason to point out all the facts that prove they are.

[Anonymous No.1744594]

>>1744507
fucking true man, those liberals sure are dumb people.

[moediggity No.1744597]

>>1744578
mfw you source phony polls and right wing extremist and just generally right wing only sources.
lol, just fucking lol

[Anonymous No.1744599]

>>1744584

No, you post non-/sci/ shit on /sci/. I have no problems with your beliefs. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs no matter how correct or how ignorant they are.

You just happen to continually post non-scientific threads and posts. You have no clue about how science works and instead you post the evidence that fits your facts instead of looking for the truth.

So, I think you're wrong. You exactly fit what I think a stormfront stereotype would be.

[Anonymous No.1744604]

>>1744597
So Gallup and Harris are right-wing only you giant fucking retard?

Are all liberals this fucking ignorant?

[Anonymous No.1744605]

>>1744587

I don't know they sound pretty awesome. I went to their website and found this:

http://www.godhatesfags.com/reports/20060331_god-loves-everyone-lie.pdf

I'm sorry, but I laughed. It was just so over the top, even if it is true.

[Anonymous No.1744610]

>>1744604
yes, thats why jesus hate them.

[moediggity No.1744621]

>>1744587
>>I mean, you realize the Westboro Baptist Church are liberals, right? Please dispute this so I have reason to point out all the facts that prove they are.

1. the first sign of a conservotard is to out right lie and distort as seen in the green text here.
2.Always remember to pretend that you dont do the things you do when you do them publically ALL THE TIME ANYWAYS!
3.play the victim. spend days making anti intellectual,infactual posts and threads about *insert group here*, then get butthurt when *insert group here* says something back, and you fag up the thread with your whining and BAAAAAAAAWWWWWW IM SO OPPRESSED! fucking nonsense.

wbc,religious nut jobs who appear on fox all of the time,protest dead soldiers and rock musicians and other forms of freedom of expression, bad mouth science....somehow,they are liberals...why is it that the right wingers can never take personal responsibility of their parties actions and never own up for their mistakes and then pawn them off as liberalism when they get called on it?
the right wing party is nothing but scum most of the time. its a sad state of affairs.

[moediggity No.1744629]

>>1744604
no polls are bullshit because polling,say,a thousand people in a country, and then basing their opinions on that group alone, reflects the mood of the country. no thats bullshit. sorry I prefer the truth rather than lies made up by media outlets whose sole purpose is to manipulate public consent on *insert issue here*. polls,all polls, are bullshit.

[SkiddieKript !!D0wYNBTrK/I No.1744637]

>>1744599

Now this is funny.

You're butthurt over me occasionally posting about nonscience related topics in a board that is filled with threads on nonscience related topics?

You accuse me of not understanding how "science works" while clearly not understanding it yourself.

Science is not abstract, science is driven by ideology. Facts are used in arguments to support viewpoints, objective truth devoid of opinion does not exist.

You're clearly delusional.

[Anonymous No.1744639]

>>1744621
YAY! THE RETARD TOOK THE BAIT!

Here we go.

1. Fred Phelps, leader of the Westboro Baptist Church ran as a DEMOCRAT for governor of Kansas twice.

2. The Westboro Baptist Church has always voted for, endorsed, campaigned for, and donated money to the DEMOCRATS.

3. They routinely criticize conservatives, Fox News, George Bush, Ronald Reagan, and virtually every Republican there is.

4. They were good friends with Al Gore (see image) in the 80's and routinely held fundraisers for him when he authored anti-gay legislation. When he softened his position in the 90's they cut ties with him, labeling him a "conservative darling" and a "fag pimp".

5. The only form of hate speech they do not condone is racism, they go out of their way to attack that, as their background is as civil rights attorneys.

6. They protest the funerals of dead soldiers, and memorials of astronauts. Things which have nothing to do with homosexuals, but are pro-American symbols, and they have stated in no uncertain terms they hate and despise this country.

They're liberals. Those are the facts. Look it up. You were wrong, like you always are, because you're a fucking idiot, and you've just demonstrated clearly you don't know shit about a god damned thing. Now keep your stupid fucking mouth shut, and don't ever open it again dumbass.

[Anonymous No.1744640]

>>1744507
actually its MUCH MUCH higher then 17% who are liberals, its just that most liberals are fucking pussies and are afraid to call themselfs that because the Right wing has made it a dirty word.

Case in point, How many right wingers brag about being conservative? All of them.

How many Left winger brag about being really liberal?

Fucking none. Their mostly all like "hurr Im "centrist" or "moderate"

Pussies.

[moediggity No.1744647]

>>1744639
hey 10 years ago just called, they want their points relevant to their time back. do you have anything of value for maybe today?

[Anonymous No.1744655]

>>1744639
>>1744637

[Anonymous No.1744656]

>>1744637

And thank you and good night.

[moediggity No.1744658]

>>1744639
oh and btw, did you ever think that they would call themselves democrats just to bash them? none of the dems in congress are like that. none of the ones I know are like that in fact, no democrat Ive ever talked to acts anything like that. oh but wait, your a conservative,its just jesus for you. nevermind

[Anonymous No.1744662]

>>1744629
>>no polls are bullshit because polling,say,a thousand people in a country, and then basing their opinions on that group alone, reflects the mood of the country. no thats bullshit.

That's hilarious, because meanwhile in this thread:

>>1744048

Liberals are making the exact opposite argument, and claiming the poll from MSNBC that 1/3 of the country is against synthetic biology based on a poll of 1,000 people is infallible because of representive sampling.

How do you manage to get more idiotic with each post?

[Anonymous No.1744669]

>>1744662

I guess they didn't teach you that there are multiple people posting on 4chan.

[moediggity No.1744671]

>>1744662
wrong person. ive been here or on new the entire time

[Anonymous No.1744674]

>>1744658
>>oh and btw, did you ever think that they would call themselves democrats just to bash them?

BAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA, YOU'RE SAYING THEY DONATED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO GET PEOPLE ELECTED WHOM THEY DON'T AGREE WITH? THAT THEY RAN AS PART OF A PARTY THEY DIDN'T LIKE BECAUSE- HOLY SHIT, THAT'S SO STUPID, OH GOD MY SIDES HURT, BAHAHAHAHAHA.

>>none of the dems in congress are like that.

Yes, because you've met all of them personally, you high-roller you. Like Clinton who said Obama should be getting them their coffee for instance, or Hillary, Obama, and Biden who are all against gay marriage.

>>none of the ones I know are like that in fact, no democrat Ive ever talked to acts anything like that.

Are you twelve years old, or just retarded? That's anecdotal evidence, in other words worthless. I could say "every single Democrat I've ever met has told me he rapes children." It's an anecdote. The fact is: WBC are liberals. DEAL WITH IT BITCH.

>>oh but wait, your a conservative,its just jesus for you. nevermind

I'm an atheist. Are you capable of getting anything right, moron?

[Anonymous No.1744676]

>>1744507
>Thinks the Tea Party is the "majority"

Im literally LMAO, you are so so so so funny.
Looks like someone has been brainwashed by the FAUX.

Its americans like you that are causing the downfall of our society. You need to stop listening to hate speech, "entertainment news" and actually educate yourself fool!

[Anonymous No.1744678]

>>1744671
>>1744669
I didn't say same person, I said liberals. Read the post you're quoting kiddo. In that thread, liberals are arguing that any poll with at least a thousand people chosen randomly is accurate due to representative sampling. No matter how you slice it, you're wrong about everything you've said in this thread. I know it stings, but you'll be a better person for realizing you're a fucking idiot, and everything you've ever believed in is wrong.

[moediggity No.1744686]

>>1744678
no im right,and your the stupid,poopy face

[Anonymous No.1744688]

>>1744676
>>Greentext's an obvious strawman fallacy
>>Pretends "conservative" means "tea party"
>>Posts image macro
>>Pretends this is an argument, spouts crappy memes, and then declares the other person an idiot.
>>Has thus become a living definition of irony, and a giant fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.1744692]

>>1744678

Yes, and you paste that guys mistakes as all liberals mistakes. I guess I shouldn't expect more from someone such as you.

[Anonymous No.1744693]

>>1744686
Libfag status: TOLD.

[Anonymous No.1744694]

>>1744040
Im glad this thread is still here. I love making fun of FAUX and the scum (tea party)....this will be fun!

I cant believe there are actually tea party people here in my /sci/, WTF? I didnt think they were mentally aware enough to use a computer.

[Anonymous No.1744697]

>>1744040
OP that is a slippery slope fallacy

[Anonymous No.1744700]

>>1744694
>>1744203
>>1744185
>>1744136
>>1744109
Samefag.

Butthurt some conservative took his job, married his mom, or went out with the girl he had a crush on in high school.

Demonstrates hilarious lack of intelligence by repeatedly demonstrating he believes "faux" is pronounced the same way as "fox".

[SkiddieKript !!D0wYNBTrK/I No.1744702]

It's a dam shame liberals had to hijack this thread with their bullshit. Part of the OPs question is one I have wondered myself, why do liberals hurrdurr over keeping animal habitat in order to preserve a species of rat or plant or try to prevent species contamination of a landmass while ignoring the obvious implications of human immigration?

Conservationists appear to be huge hypocrites.

[Anonymous No.1744705]

>>1744692
I post that his exact words, specifically disagree with the prevailing liberal logic in another thread. I didn't see him storming into that thread to tell them the statistics were wrong because 1,000 people isn't enough.

It was just, fucking hilarious to me that he exactly said "1,000 people isn't enough" and in that other thread every liberal is screeching it's more than enough for an accurate sample to validate *those* poll results.

[Anonymous No.1744706]

>>1744702

One can be changed by the action of the "victims". The other cannot be changed by the action of the "victims".

I'll let you figure out which is which.

[Anonymous No.1744709]

>Curious person asks /sci/ a legitamate question
>Four posts relating to OP's post
>One post mentions the tea party
>300 posts of people calling each other "stupid poopy heads"

Well, I guess four posts relating to the subject at hand is a 4chan record, but come on /sci/, you're better than this.

[Anonymous No.1744717]

>>1744705

There are people who label themselves one thing and yet disagree with the majority of people who label themselves another. How hard is this concept to grasp?

[Anonymous No.1744722]

>>1744040
>Glenn Beck is the second most loved television personality in the country

Sounds Like bullshit.....
In anycase people love laughing at retards. Dont you watch TV? You never heard of Snooki before?

Every now and then I watch a few minutes of the show, just to get a really really good laugh. It is fucking highlarious. He takes himself so seriously, and acts like he knows shit, when all he spouts is incohernt gibberish. That guy really needs to take a basic Poly sci or History course, he is a very very ignorant man.

Also, Hitler was the most popular person of his time....LMAO

[SkiddieKript !!D0wYNBTrK/I No.1744727]

>>1744706

That's not correct.

There is no difference between an environment being created where a nonhuman animal species cannot survive in and an environment being created where a racial/ethnic group cannot survive in.

The direct affect on the groups may be different but the outcome is the same.

[Anonymous No.1744729]

>>1744578

The reason for this is because Conservatives had demonized the word Liberal to such a great degree that even Liberals themselves try to avoid the word.

Most of the Americans who describe themselves as Centrists or Moderates often hold Liberal views. They view themselves as Moderate because of the negativity associated with the word Liberal.

[Anonymous No.1744743]

>>1744700
Look everyone, the tea-bagger is crying again.
You ok little guy? You shouldn't take yourself so seriously. You really need a good education, that is the only way to fight your ignorance. Grow up a little...its not that hard.

Also, wtf are you even on /sci/?
Scienist are supposed to be smart? You are fucking retard. Are you just a pop-science guy?
Or maybe you are just lost?
Is the computer confusing your?
Too many keys?

"SCROLL UP AND CLICK THE "/b/", THAT IS THE BOARD FOR YOUR KIND

[Anonymous No.1744745]

>>1744727

Yes there is. You can fuck and make a shit load of babies. Almost everyone has more than enough money and food to do that. I think I can use an example you'll love: black people. They end up having more children and they're poorer.

There's nothing preventing white or Japanese or any other group from having more children than any other. It's just simple greed.

Animals can't do shit against humans if we go into their habitat. It's one of the immense pleasures and benefits of being human.

[Anonymous No.1744758]

ITT: People think that claims of political party are more important than action.

You don't get to just throw around labels. Words have definitions, figure out how to properly use them.

[Anonymous No.1744761]

>>1744722
Way to invoke Godwin's Law.

The point -which you can't in any way refute- was that despite you idiots trying to claim conservatives make up a very small percentages of the country, and Glenn Beck's a nutjob, and blah blah blah, Conservatives actually account for 40% of the country, 35% Moderates, and only 20% liberals. And Glenn Beck is extremely popular.

They're not the fringe, you're the fringe. That's just a fact. No number of insults, no assortment of image macros will ever change those facts. Deal with it, and grow the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.1744762]

>>1744729

The truth is though, regardless of whatever the fuck you call yourself, tradiational "conservatives" are dying out.

Conservatives that get elected now of days have to be more liberal then ever before, just to get elected. Most conservates now are actually "moderate" or have very "liberal" policies. This is a trend that has been seen in the US, as well as the UK and Western Europe.

In 100 years time, what we consider "conservative" will actually be very very liberal by todays standards. Conservatism by definition is always "chipped" away at by society. At its core, Conservatism is associated with the "mindset" of the old, and well the old always die......LOL.

[SkiddieKript !!D0wYNBTrK/I No.1744764]

>>1744745

>There's nothing preventing white or Japanese or any other group from having more children than any other.

There obviously is as they aren't, which is my point.

As stated above there is no difference between the creation of an environment that leads to the destruction of animal population and one that leads to the destruction of a human population.

The process may be different but both have the same outcome.

In this case the immigration of nonwhites and liberal thought has created such an environment.

Actually it's all liberal thought as nonwhites wouldn't be allowed to immigrate without it.

[Anonymous No.1744765]

>>1744743
>>empty insults
>>shitty grammar
>>image macro in place of an argument

Are you really this stupid, or are you just a troll trying to make liberals look like giant retards?

[Anonymous No.1744772]

>>1744762
>>1744729
Jesus fucking christ on a cracker, YOU'RE DELUSIONAL AS SHIT, SON.

40% of the country identifies as conservative, and how do you deal with this FACT? You claim the group that said they weren't liberal, is actually liberal, they're just pretending not to be because liberal is an evil word. And despite being larger now than any other group in the country, conservatives are "dying out".

You're a fucking idiot. You're not making a damn bit of sense. You bring stupid to a whole new level. Holy fuck.

[Anonymous No.1744777]

oh god. first of all, "muslim" is not a racial group. Arabs only make up 30% of the muslim demographic. 18% of muslims are white.

second of all, white non-muslims, just for you, are not going anywhere. just like blacks never disappeared after the US stopped importing slaves. races don't just "disappear".

race-mixing is still very, very rare on a statistical level. as for low birth rates, thats what happens when people reach a certain level. kids are expensive and require a lot of attention, the developed world on the other hand encourages living for yourself, enjoying life, which is a lot harder to do with 3-5 children.

when whites become poor again, birth rates will shoot up as people will have less things to spend their time on. spirituality or religion are great stimuli for kids, both concepts temper temptation and encourage giving rather than receiving.

[Anonymous No.1744780]

>>1744764

Look man, there's a little something called free will that humans have that animals don't.

People choose not to have more kids, because kids fucking suck.

[Anonymous No.1744784]

>>1744762

I'd say it's the complete opposite. Compared to today's standards, many old presidents would be considered very liberal. You get too tied up in bullshit media blanket issues like GLBT rights, pro-life, and gun control. Oh, don't forget immigration, which btw; it's one of the founding tenants of our country.

Do some research. America is getting more and more stupid, politicians (namely Republicans) are getting elected on sensationalism.

[Anonymous No.1744789]

>>1744777
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

[Anonymous No.1744794]

>>1744784
>>Pretending that in the past when gay rights, and abortion were both completely unthinkable and pretty much universally scorned, politicians would have been more likely to be fore them.

[SkiddieKript !!D0wYNBTrK/I No.1744808]

>>1744780

I don't consider humans having more "free will" then animals.

Actually I look at humans the way I look at other animals.

Create an event and the human population will respond according to their biology and past experiences.

Should the population continue down this path of self destruction then it's clear an environment was created that the population could not appropriately respond to.

It's no different a process then what happened to extinct nonhuman animals.

[Anonymous No.1744812]

>>1744761

You are so fucking funny. I have not laughed this hard in a long time. You really think the "tea party" is the majority. Dude, where the fuck do you live? I need to go see this shit? How fucking secluded are you from society that you could believe such a bat-shit crazy idea?
Do you live in some really small town in the middle of nowhere?

You really need to get out and travel the country a little bit bro. Take Gleen Becks Dick outta your mouth, and experience life! It may seem scary at first, but you can do it!

The validty of your numbers is probabaly bullshit. Where did you get them from? Let me guess FAUX? You know they have a history of lying about numbers, events, people, altering pictures, and inserting there our narritive and agenda into there programming. Also, by there own admission most of there shows are not news at all. GLENN BECK IS NOT NEWS!

It isnt even funny how lost you are. You really are just way too naive and gullible. Do you have anykind of education at all? Do you know how to think for yourself?

Im am starting to reallly feel bad for you. I guess I shouldnt be making fun of retards.

[Anonymous No.1744826]

>>1744794

>Pretending that media bullshit blanket issues honestly have anything to do with the state of affairs our country is in.

Oh look I can green text too.

[Anonymous No.1744830]

>>1744812

I'm pretty sure they're trolling.

[Anonymous No.1744834]

>>1744812
You're not even trying. The statistics are from Gallup and Harris, two of the most reputable polling outfits in the country. The links were provided further up in the thread.

Simply posting stupid image macros, and even more worthless insults won't change the facts, but if you feel like admitting you've lost this argument, have nothing to add, and feel utterly ashamed of your overwhelming stupidity and worthlessness, by all means, post another reply with an image macro and a slew of meaningless insults. It'll demonstrate clearly the typical intelligence of your ilk, and the worthlessness of your "arguments".

[Anonymous No.1744838]

/sci/ - Politics and Religion.

I believe that you guys are looking for /new/. Here, let me point you in the proper direction.

>>>/new/

[Anonymous No.1744840]

>>1744789
nice try. unfortunately sensationalist pseudo-intellectual youtube shock videos are generally very shitty sources.

after the collapse of the soviet union russia encountered a complete collapse in birthrates, 0.98 fertility rate between 1993-1999. thats 0.82 points lower than your "unrecoverable" mark.

today? 2.3 fertility rate. so thats bullshit.

[Anonymous No.1744847]

>>1744830
Yeah, probabaly.

I dont feel so bad for making fun of the retards now. No one can honestly think that the "tea party" is the majority.....that is just to fucking absurd. He must be Trolling

[Anonymous No.1744849]

So hey, if you're not all too busy flaming each other and achieving nothing, could I maybe see some more pics like the one the OP used? I like them curvy.

[Anonymous No.1744855]

>>1744834

[Anonymous No.1744860]

>>1744834
0/10

[Anonymous No.1744869]

>>1744830
First off, obvious samefag.

Second, he/you have repeated twice now that conservatives = tea party. That's the very definition of a strawman fallacy. The poll says that conservatives outnumber those who identify as moderates, and double those who identify as liberal. The tea party was never mentioned, but again, you don't have an actual argument against the statistics, against the facts.

And the links were already posted, feel free to google if you can't scroll the fuck up to find them. Harris poll and gallup poll. Facts.

[Anonymous No.1744882]

>>1744834
what argument? wtf are you smoking dude?
no one is arguing with you. I am just enjoying calling you a retard. Note I use "retard" and not "faggot", becuase you lack mental capabilities.

Why would I have any sort of arugment or debate, with you? I would be like me arguing a tensor cal proff to a dog. It is just pointless, the dog (you) are just to dumb to understand.

But, you came off as too stupid. Bad move, no one can be that stupid. Nice trolling bro! Better luck next time!

[Anonymous No.1744887]

>>1744847
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern:

1. Person A has position X.
2. Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
3. Person B attacks position Y.
4. Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person

To repeat:

"According to a gallup poll, 40% of the country identifies as conservative."

Your idiotic, poorly written strawman reply:

"OMG, YOU'RE SAYING THE TEA PARTY IS THE MAJORITY LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL *image macro*"

http://www.gallup.com/poll/141032/2010-conservatives-outnumber-moderates-liberals.aspx

>>PRINCETON, NJ -- Conservatives have maintained their leading position among U.S. ideological groups in the first half of 2010. Gallup finds 42% of Americans describing themselves as either very conservative or conservative. This is up slightly from the 40% seen for all of 2009 and contrasts with the 20% calling themselves liberal or very liberal.

[Anonymous No.1744895]

>>1744882
>>lol i don't have a comeback, so i'll just declare you a retard and post image macros because i'm butthurt i lost an argument on the internet. lol sucks to be you! check out my crudely drawn picture of a political figure as a creature of horror, surely that will prove i am right and you are wrong lolz

[Anonymous No.1744898]

>>1744869
>conservatives = tea party

but thats the assumption you made. I was aruging about the tea party all along. I never euqated them with conservatives, thats is somthing you did. You need to go back and read the thread little man.....lol.

[снайпер No.1744904]

>>1744151
>because he promised everything, and delivered jack shit.

The problem isn't that he's delivered nothing, it's that he's delivered the exact same bullshit george bush was. Why if I were cynical, I'd be betting that the only reason he was even put forward as a candidate was because it'd create a spectacle and take everyone's minds off actually doing something about fixing America.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/09/08/obama

The country is getting dangerously close to the time when the 4th box is needed. There's no difference between the Republican and Democrats when you actually look at what they do. The country is ruled by one corporatist party and is full of scoundrels and crooks.

[Anonymous No.1744914]

>>1744898
You replied to a poll about conservatives and said "LOL TEA PARTY" a good three times. You've been proven wrong again, and again, and again, and again. Every time you post, you demonstrate for everyone how profoundly stupid liberals are. You demonstrate exactly why no more than 22% have ever identified as being one of you. Because you're immature fucking jokes who think image macros, the word "retard" and "lol" account for arguments.

I honestly can't tell whether you're a troll, or a stupid fourteen year old who got lost on their way to Gaia.

[Anonymous No.1744916]

>>1744040
>>1744040

[Anonymous No.1744918]

Sweet Jesus, you guys are still arguing?

[Anonymous No.1744928]

>>1744916
You replied to the OP post, which doesn't even reference politics with an image macro about fox news.

Did Sean Hannity break into your house, and hold you down while Greta Van Susteren raped you with a strap-on, as Geraldo jerked off in the distance holding a camera? You are fucking obsessed man. You're not even trying to make sense anymore. Not that you were to begin with, but I actually thought you were trying.

[Anonymous No.1744929]

>>1744849

[Anonymous No.1744932]

>>1744914
nope, I did not.

Wow, you have been watching so much Faux you cant even keep your shit straight anymore. Kinda Sad. I think you were arguing with someother dude. I have only been here for a few posts, and it was pretty much just to make fun of you.

[Anonymous No.1744945]

>>1744932
Yes, some other person posting image macros, with the same shitty, hilariously pathetic grammar, and empty insults towards conservative figures.

Maybe I'm giving liberals too much credit, but I'm pretty sure that level of idiocy is coming from just you in this thread.

[Anonymous No.1744948]

>>1744928
No, I am really replying to >>1744185
Sorry. I often just reply to the main.

[Anonymous No.1744963]

>>1744840
I didn't say I agreed with the video, just that what it says is shocking.

I was actually hoping for reasoning that proves it wrong.

[Anonymous No.1744967]

>>1744948
So you're replying to a thread hijack post you made.

How sad.

[Anonymous No.1744974]

>>1744945
Wow, just WOW...I thought I had stopped with the laughing, but you sir are good!

Yeah, bad grammer, insults, and image macros......you NEVER SEE THOSE ON /sci/?
Very good deductive skills, are you a detective by chance.....LMAO

R U NEW To 4chan?

Naw, serioulsy, not all those posts were mine.
You were talking to a good 3 people at one time at least.

[Anonymous No.1744981]

>>1744967
Nope, just contributing.

[Anonymous No.1744984]

[Anonymous No.1745006]

>>1744967
Has this been posted yet?

[Anonymous No.1745024]

>>1744040
So the dumbass left?

[Anonymous No.1745037]

>>1745024
Yeah, I think I made him cry. Or he is too busy jackin off to FAUX.

Also, im outta FAUX Pics! Anyone got anymore?

[Anonymous No.1745045]

>>1745037

[Anonymous No.1745050]

>>1745037
enjoy

[Anonymous No.1745051]

>>1744887

I'll bite

Just because people identify with "conservative" more, does not necessarily mean they'll automagically vote Republican.

The old guard of the GOP has been systematically gutted and turned inside-out (look what's happened to McCain), and the more rational-minded intellectual conservatives are considered "too liberal" and thus forced to either conform to the RNC's demands or be ejected from the fold. More and more people are being alienated from the Republican Party, and this includes those who self-identify as "conservative."

Hell, environmentalism used to be a conservative ideal. What could be more conservative than preserving the world for your kids and grandchildren? Now being an environmentalist is mutually exclusive from being a conservative.

In sum, since Republicans are aiming for the votes of the stupidest, least rational demographic in the United States, while shrinking their base of support by defining ever-increasing numbers of conservatives as LIBRULS, there is now a major disconnect between American national interests and the body politic as a whole, and the Republican Party. Your poll numbers, while interesting, provide no indication of the likelihood of Republican success in 2012.

[Anonymous No.1745071]

[Anonymous No.1745075]

>>1745050
>>1745045
>>1745037
>>1745024
>>1745006
>>1744984
>>1744981
>>1744974
See kids, this is what happens when liberals lose arguments. They bitch and throw a fit and ruin things for everyone.

Also, lol @ "posting these images is valid because it's in response to a troll post to hijack a thread with an unrelated divisive topic".

You're unbelievably fucking pathetic.

[Anonymous No.1745088]

>>1745024

Nope, I guess I was wrong. The dumbass is still here >>1745075.

WElcome Back retard

[Anonymous No.1745093]

>>1745075
topics change all the time
R u new?

[Anonymous No.1745104]

>>1744904

This man, seems to know his shit.

You guys still think this is about some bi-partisianship, and are arguing conservative vs. liberal based on what the media riles everyone up about. Aside from the serious nutjobs that get ostracized from either party like Palin, they're all working for the same basic goal. And whose to say that they aren't put out there so that the other guys don't seem so ridiculous?

[Anonymous No.1745113]

>>1745075
You know whats unbelievably fucking pathetic?
A guy who lurks threads where he is not wanted. This is a good old fashioned Anit-faux thread, nothing more. Contribute or GTFO