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Hey /sci/, /g/eneral /sci/entist here, and we need some help.
>>>/g/13213068

If your not informed, wikileaks leaked a 1.4gb encrypted file named "insurance". We plan to brute force it. But were gonna need atleast 5,000Ghz to do it... so we figured we'd ask CERN.

Theres a problem with that though, as we don't speak french. Any french/swiss/german fags in here wanna call cern and ax em if we can use their computers for a little while?

>> No.1741329

just so you know, once that insurance file is decrypted, it's no longer insurance and wikileaks/julian assange are essentially dead.

>> No.1741332

>he wants to brute force a 116bit encryption
hahaohwow.jpg
>using cern
actually, that would work..

>> No.1741334

>>1741312
No, they will not let you use there computers.
Stop being a faggot!

>> No.1741344

>>1741334
We at /g/ figured if we asked nicely they might let us

>> No.1741353
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>Using CERN to decrypt files

BRILLIANT!

>> No.1741355

>>1741329
>channep
>already knows all about it

iexpectedthis.jpg

>> No.1741364

>>1741344
No, they wont even give you the time of day to ask. Stop being a faggot

>> No.1741365

>>1741353
thats /g/ for ya

>> No.1741369

cool project, but if the insturance file held anything awesome in it, Assange would have already released it

>> No.1741389

>>1741369
hes using it as blackmale for the united states gov't. They just dumped 70,000 illegal documents containing important information about the afgan war.

Thats technically a war crime and can get you in Guantanamo, or just killed. hundreds of thousands of people have downloaded insurance.date by now, and if wikileaks gets closed down because of their warcrimes, he gives out the encryption key by a third party and the worst of the worst shit hits the fan.

Its speculated that its a video of school children being air raided by soldiers in Afghanistan

>> No.1741402

>>1741389
>video
>1.4gb
... that would have to be like 1080p...

>> No.1741404

Aren't there English speakers at CERN? Why can't you ask in English?

>> No.1741415
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>>1741402
>mfw schoolchildren being bombed in 1080p

>> No.1741423

>>1741402
I doubt that would be the ONLY thing in the file.

Point is, Wikileaks goes down, that file is opened, and hundreds of thousands of people will know what's inside, followed by millions if the media picks up on it.

I hope it's something big enough that the US will shut down its military operations overseas. This "war" has gone on long enough, goddamit.

>> No.1741425

>>1741404
Well, the answering machine was in French. We just kinda thats it.

Also, that they would be nicer to a European than a american, asking to use their 10billion€ equipment to crack a encryption

>> No.1741462

I'm a frenchfag, and it says they don't open for a few more hours.

also, it goes to english half way thru you fuckers

>> No.1741474

>>1741425
Use an accent from the UK or Ireland? Unless they don't consider them real Europeans or some faggot shit like that.

>> No.1741484

>>1741415
I'd really like to see that

>> No.1741528

imagine if it was actually a no-CD version of GTA III

>> No.1741531

ok, so things we may have established so far...

file has a .AES256 extention, so it probably is AES256
file is salted, so to speak, so it would be impossible to brute force within our lifetime

>captcha twelar sciences

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>>1741425
>answering machine was in French

Your a faggot. They will not help you! Take your faggotry outta /sci/

>> No.1741544

>>1741531

It's widely believed that AES encryption has a backdoor for the NSA, so it's probably not actually AES.

>> No.1741548

>>1741531
>salted

uh, they put salt on it?

>> No.1741558

>>1741544
Well then it could just be teasing at the NSA, so they'll end up seeing what it is and relaying the fear.

>> No.1741561

>>1741548
Yeah, it tastes delicious now.

>> No.1741562

>>1741544
Except that it doesn't matter if the US government knows what's in the file or not, if it really IS some earth-shattering info.

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>>1741531
>file has a .AES256 extention, so it probably is AES256

>> No.1741565

>>1741425
>call
hey guies
we all know the amuricunts are lying fags amirite? Wanna crack some supposed top secret shit that can reveal a LOT of truth on Afghanistan?
>hang up

i think it would work

>> No.1741571

I FUCKING LOVE WIKILEAKS.

DEMOCRACY IN ACTION MOTHEFUCKERS.

>> No.1741584

CERN just opened, anyone wanna make the call?

>> No.1741590

100 years from now no one will remember or know what wikileaks is :'(

>> No.1741593

>>1741584
don't bother them. There is not enough entropy in the universe to crack 256bit AES

>> No.1741596

>>1741593
Its actually 116

>> No.1741597

Hi ciscofag here
they r trollan saying its aes256 theyd never do that they hate americunts remember
and yes apparently aes does have backdoor they arent rtards
it'll be 3des you muppets

>> No.1741605

the folding@home cluster couldn't even crack that shit anytime soon. and cern is a little pink tricycle compared to that.

>> No.1741609

Okay, I have an idea. Let's network all the computers of 4chan users. We will create a networked computing power equal to CERN's. Any questions? the plan is infallible.

>> No.1741612

>>1741593
If you crack one bit per year, it'll only be two and a half centuries.

>> No.1741619

>>1741609
>make a botnet of 4chan user's comptuters

go ask /g/ why thats a bad idea

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>>1741590

>> No.1741630

>>1741619
they just told me to reformat and reinstall windows. That's all they ever say on /g/.

>> No.1741634

>>1741389
>Its speculated that its a video of school children being air raided by soldiers in Afghanistan

wait
what
and this can just be swept under the carpet how?
this isn't vietnam you asswipe. If this happened the perpetrators would be SEVERELY punished. the armed forces fucking hates civilian casualties, and if you aren't aware of that you're just as dumb and ignorant as the flag waving hillbillies

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>>1741634

>> No.1741645

>>1741634
>doesn't know wikileaks already leaked two videos of soldiers killing civilians that were just "swept under the rug"

>> No.1741656 [DELETED] 

>>1741634
you're stupid.

they have killed 100,000's of people, you think they have 100% precision?

>> No.1741659

>>1741634
Bullshit.

There have been over 1000 (or maybe it's 500) times as many civilian deaths as "terrorist" deaths because of the US in Afghanistan/Iraq over the past 9 years.

>> No.1741664

>>1741634
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/25/afghanistan-war-logs-military-leaks

>A huge cache of secret US military files today provides a devastating portrait of the failing war in Afghanistan, revealing how coalition forces have killed hundreds of civilians in unreported incidents, Taliban attacks have soared and Nato commanders fear neighbouring Pakistan and Iran are fuelling the insurgency.
>revealing how coalition forces have killed hundreds of civilians in unreported incidents
>killed hundreds of civilians in unreported incidents

hurr durr?

>> No.1741673

Who gives a fuck if US soldiers kill a bunch of sand niggers

alpha as fuck

>> No.1741678

hey guys I opened the file
it's got a lot of interesting stuff
what do i do now?

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>>1741640
>>1741664
>>1741659
>>1741645
trolled hard

>> No.1741696

>>1741682
>i said something retarded
>oh guys jokes on you i was only pretending

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>>1741696

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>>1741682

>> No.1741708

>>1741673
because they are a bunch of redneck fuck-ups who try to act like they are helping society.

also, if you think a police-state where the military can do no wrong is cool then see russia:

http://www.policebrutality.info/2009/01/police-beating-woman-in-station.html

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>>1741701

>> No.1741713

>>1741708
hahaha

Thanks for the video, really gave me some laughs

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>>1741709

>> No.1741726

>>1741708
>implying russia isn't awesome
I love russia

>> No.1741729

Fuck Wikileaks. You bastards say your leaks will not harm US troops, yet in 5 minutes of checking said documents I found the names and locations of several soldiers and allied civilians. So go to hell.

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>>1741718
>post eight lines of caps with multiple insults
>implying you aren't mad

>> No.1741737

>>1741729
>implying we couldn't find them anyway

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>>1741731

>> No.1741746

>>1741718
why you mad though?

>> No.1741750

>>1741726
http://jotman.blogspot.com/2010/01/timeline-of-police-brutality-in-russia.html
>have fun getting almost killed, just because you drive a lexus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ynWdWhw1Kc&feature=related

>RFE reported on a 2007 study by the Russian Academy of Sciences that "every 25th person in Russia is tortured, beaten, or harassed by law enforcement officials each year."

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>>1741746

>> No.1741761

>>1741645
Wait killing Iraqi civilians is bad why?

>> No.1741766

Just build a distributed computing initiative like the Folding@Home initiative.

>> No.1741771

>>1741761
Its a waste of bullets. they're suppose to be used to kill people who are a direct threat, not random shit. Might as well have everyone use all of their ammo to the shoot the ground or something

>> No.1741776

>>1741750
Yeah, and they love it. Russia is hardcore. They love misery and domination. if you don't like it you're a pussy. Russia forever

>> No.1741782

>>1741771
They DO waste lots of bullets on the ground when they get bored.

>> No.1741794

>>1741782
That shits expensive, they need to stop that

>> No.1741803

It'd be helpful if we had a link to the wikileak and had an idea of what "insurance" mean
That way we will not waste our time trying to decrypt one of your files

>> No.1741812

>>1741782

Most bullets are wasted on the ground or inanimate objects anyway even if you're trying to hit a threat.

>> No.1741816

>>1741766
It'd be like LOIC but for bruteforce...
BRILLIANT!
Now if only someone on this site actually knew how to program...

>> No.1741818

>>1741803
noone knows what it is, and check the /g/ thread

>> No.1741819

>>1741812
AND THEREFORE IT MAKES SENSE TO WASTE EVEN MORE BULLETS. HERP A DERP.

>> No.1741834

>>1741819
Infantry munitions are cheap to the point of almost being a non-cost under the total budget. The price of a box of ammo may sound expensive to you but that's because you're poor.

>> No.1741865

>>1741819
Its just lead faggot
Its the same crap they use to paint the cheap plastic toys the Chinese make

>> No.1741868

>>1741761
>Wait killing Iraqi civilians is bad why?
Because that's Iran's job

>> No.1741903

>>1741816
>Now if only someone on this site actually knew how to program
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>> No.1741925

>Killing people is bad because of wasting ammunition and money
>Implying that killing people isn't fucking bad in general

>> No.1741930

>>1741925
>implying you haven't killed anyone

>> No.1741932

>>1741930
wait
what?!

>> No.1741939

>>1741312
ba6809b651bb00e2689a91a14e6bb151335d0646

>> No.1741945

so how is wikileaks getting all this classified information again?

>> No.1741957

>>1741939
HOREE SHIT IT WORKS.

OH THE HUMANITY!

>> No.1741983

>>1741945
people submit it to them

>> No.1741985

>>1741957
Goddamn it
I went to the damn twitter link and all I found was a bunch of news articles
Where is the file?

>> No.1741990

>>1741985
but do does people get it by hacking or are they actually working for the army?

>> No.1741991

>>1741985
leakmirror.wikileaks.org/file/straw-glass-and-bottle/insurance.aes256

>> No.1741994

>>1741957
post pic or it didn't happen

>> No.1742001

>>1741957
LOLITROLU
I think...
My download is still going, due to shitty university internet, so I'm not able to try.

>> No.1742010

>>1742001
>>1741985

Yeah bros, I was trolling, but I didn't post the key either.

but I know that person is trolling, and i am not going to wait 4 hours to download that shit to find out.

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>>1742001
tell me how to do it and ill attempt to, just finished

>> No.1742016

>>1741990
They're actually working for the army.

Okay it works like this: You're in the army/CIA/NSA/insert-government-branch and you come across information that you morally object to, and think it is reprehensible that it is being censored. So you send that data to wikileaks, hopefully without being caught, and wikileaks publishes the data.

The guy who leaked a lot of the material on the afghan war has been caught, I'm not sure if he's been courts-martialed yet.

>> No.1742017

>>1742001
you're wasting your time downloading it
Its not like you'll magically find the bruteforce combination of a 116bit salt encryption

>> No.1742022

>>1742016
>The guy who leaked a lot of the material on the afghan war has been caught, I'm not sure if he's been courts-martialed yet.
Well that guy's fucked
RIP

>> No.1742026

>>1742010

I posted the key, but I have no idea if it works or not. I found it on the twitter link.

Only 37 minutes until I can be disappoint.

>> No.1742023

>>1742017
If the US government makes a move against wikileaks, a 3rd party will release the decryption key to the insurance file.

>> No.1742038

It would be easier to kidnap Assange and waterboard him until he gives up the password; that's what will happen to him if he loses his insurance anyway

>> No.1742037

>>1742026
Tell us if it works bros

>> No.1742118

>>1742038
It doesn't matter if the government knows what's in the file or not. What matters is that what is in it doesn't reach the general public.

Personally, I'd be betting money that he's already given the key to the government so they could download the file themselves to see if it's legit.

>> No.1742121

>>1742038
That'd be a fantastic "fuck you."

"Here you go, US. Here's what I have. Yeah. You best make sure I don't have any 'accidents' anytime soon, or else this baby gets leaked everywhere."

I really hope it's something ridiculously unexpected, like that the 9-11 truthers were right, or something along those lines.

>> No.1742129

>>1742026
>>1742015
you guys realize that you have to decrypt it, right? and I assume that requires a special program. I don't think it's just like you click it and it asks to enter the key and then it decrypts it.

>> No.1742146

You guys are underestimating how hard this will be to decrypt this
I wonder if the person who leaked it had the password
look this up so you can get an idea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_%28cryptography%29
we're dealing with a 116 bit salt here

>> No.1742160

>>1742146
yes, it would basically be impossible to find the key brute force, using current technology.

but according to this guy
>>1742026
he found the key >>1741939

now you just need to find a program which takes the key and decrypts the file.

>> No.1742165

http://twitter.com/ioerror/status/24236337668

>> No.1742190

>>1742160

I used TrueCrypt.

It didn't work.