Is it possible to bring back Neanderthals?

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Anonymous Fri Sep 3 14:00:35 2010 No.1698311 [Reply] [Original]

Is it possible to bring back Neanderthals?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 14:01:35 2010 No.1698320 Probably not. But I wish we could.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 14:05:35 2010 No.1698338 >>1698320 What are the restrictions we need to overcome?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 14:07:35 2010 No.1698350 Only by cloning.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 14:07:35 2010 No.1698353 >>1698338 Not a biologist, but my understanding is that we don't have a complete, undamaged genome of a neanderthal. The remains we've found don't contain usable DNA.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 14:07:35 2010 No.1698355 InB4 "they're called Slavs".

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 14:08:35 2010 No.1698360 Well white people are 4% neanderthal and 96% black. If we eliminate all the black jeans in a white person we should be left with a neanderthal.

>>	Fri Sep 3 14:10:35 2010 No.1698367 >>1698311 You want Neanderthals? >>>/fit/

Anonymous Fri Sep 3 14:11:35 2010 No.1698368

We have then here, they are call negros. Look at the extended craniums look at the improved speed and height of jumps, they are used to hunting sabretooths and the heat on earth back then was more intense making the melanin improve making the skin darker. its right there in front of you. they have bigger ears for better hearing and larger bottom lips to protect the teeth .. in our evoutionary time now ie: asians whites they dont need these

i am a mexican i am aware i am under evolved. eh at least im not a negro.

Samefag Fri Sep 3 14:12:35 2010 No.1698373
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>>1698360
>>Well white people are 4% neanderthal and 96% black. If we eliminate all the black jeans in a white person we should be left with a neanderthal.
>>If we eliminate all the black jeans in a white person we should be left with a neanderthal.
>>eliminate all the black jeans in a white person
>>black jeans
>>jeans
>>JEANS
>>J E A N S

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 14:13:35 2010 No.1698378 File: 88 KB, 315x338, 1273700747703.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1698360 >white people >96% black

Anonymous Fri Sep 3 14:14:35 2010 No.1698381

I would love it if we could eventually recover enough Neanderthal DNA to clone one. I hope I'm still alive when we do it. Unfortunately, it doesn't bring back Neanderthal culture, which will determine most of what they were like -- as ours does now -- but it will still be interesting. We can end the argument about whether or not they were smarter than us.

Anonymous Fri Sep 3 14:16:35 2010 No.1698387

I think Neanderthal DNA infused into all of the human race, but different attributes ended up in different populations. Africans ended up with some of their denser, stronger muscles and wider noses. Europeans ended up with some of their white skin, red or white hair, and larger brains.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 14:25:35 2010 No.1698414 File: 85 KB, 300x280, Mad-Scientist-300x280.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1698381 If they are, we shall proceed in breeding the master race!

Anonymous Fri Sep 3 14:28:35 2010 No.1698424

>>1698387
agreed and since we moved and thought and changed and invented we progressed further while the africans still stuck in africa chasin butterflys and getting aids they devolved so a dying aids infected baby in africa = a true neaderthal grats
/thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:03:35 2010 No.1698571 File: 380 KB, 1024x766, STAND DOWN.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1698367 COME AT ME BRO.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:10:35 2010 No.1698589 >>1698387 >Europeans ended up with some of their white skin, red or white hair, and larger brains. lol wat? Neanderthals were black too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:12:35 2010 No.1698593 The only question: Will we be able to breed with Neanderthals? I mean, Neanderthal women are going to be my only success in having sex.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:14:35 2010 No.1698608 >>1698387 >Europeans inherited white skin and larger brains Neanderthals were black and had small-sized brains due to smaller and more compact cranium.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:18:35 2010 No.1698620 >>1698593 different species = breeding don't work retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:19:35 2010 No.1698623 File: 41 KB, 300x439, liger[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1698620 Uh huh.. oh hey don't mind me, just bein' a liger.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:21:35 2010 No.1698633 >>1698623 I fucking love that picture. Ligers are my favorite animals

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:21:35 2010 No.1698634 >>1698623 liger is not a species, its sterile.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:22:35 2010 No.1698637 >>1698620 Except.. we already did breed with them?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:22:35 2010 No.1698638 >>1698589 Neanderthals were not black. They had lived in Europe for many hundreds of thousands of years. There is no way they could have been black.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:22:35 2010 No.1698639 >>1698608 Oh ho ho so, whenever you see neanderthals on anything, they are white, but you want to call them stupid and black now? Spoiler, the first humans were black, and so was Jesus. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW, IS HE A THEORY, A GOOSE?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:23:35 2010 No.1698643 >>1698634 And what bearing does that have on whether or not we can successfully produce offspring with Neanderthals? P.S. We already did breed with them, you know that, right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:23:35 2010 No.1698645 >>1698634 are they always sterile? how do you know?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:24:35 2010 No.1698649 File: 22 KB, 356x367, gallery_napoleon_dynamite_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1698623 It's pretty much my favorite animal

Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:25:35 2010 No.1698651

>According to Wild Cats of the World (1975) by C. A. W. Guggisberg, ligers and tiglons were long thought to be sterile: In 1943 ,a fifteen-year-old hybrid between a lion and an 'Island' tiger was successfully mated with a lion at the Munich Hellabrunn Zoo. The female cub, though of delicate health, was raised to adulthood.[8]

ZUPOW!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:25:35 2010 No.1698654 ITT: idiots who don't understand evolution or species you faggots need to take biology

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:26:35 2010 No.1698657 >>1698608 Idiot/troll. Neanderthals were white and had on average around 15% larger brains than homo sapiens.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:27:35 2010 No.1698660 >>1698654 ITT: random accusations with no clarification or countering evidence

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:30:35 2010 No.1698671 File: 87 KB, 469x428, trollface.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] In this thread, niggers don't know about li-ligers, li-tions,ti-tions, or ti-ligers. Look it up

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:34:35 2010 No.1698689 File: 4 KB, 120x120, images[1].png&amp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1698671 Or octoroons!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 15:35:35 2010 No.1698699 Wait, neanderthals can have white hair?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 16:50:35 2010 No.1699020 >>1698657 They also had red hair!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 3 16:51:35 2010 No.1699025 god never created the neanderthals. so no.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 01:40:35 2010 No.1701049 >>1698368 >Mexican >Doesn't understand basic biology Why am I not surprised....

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 01:50:35 2010 No.1701073 >>1698387 OH WOW looks like we have a Scientist ITT /sarcasm

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 01:55:35 2010 No.1701084 >>1698620 There is an argument that they were a sub species, though.

Anonymous Sat Sep 4 01:58:35 2010 No.1701090

>>1698608
>Neanderthals were black and had small-sized brains due to smaller and more compact cranium

Neanderthals were white because they lived in northern climate where evolution selects for lighter skin. They had bigger brains than modern humans and a bigger cranium. LEARN 2 NEANDERTHAL. Also, they had larger body masses and red hair. Europeans and Asians have Neanderthal DNA which Africans lack.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:00:35 2010 No.1701096 >>1698387 >Africans ended up Nothing. They don't have neanderthal DNA. That's why they have smaller cranium capacity.

Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:02:35 2010 No.1701100

Europeans don't have Neanderthal DNA at all. All humans on the Earth now are Homo Sapiens, not at all biologically related to Neanderthals. Pbs.org just put up a great special on this topic, the third video states that no one living has Neanderthal DNA. Also; we do have complete Neanderthal DNA; we could conceivably clone one.

Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:05:35 2010 No.1701106

>>1701100
>Europeans don't have Neanderthal DNA at all. All humans on the Earth now are Homo Sapiens, not at all biologically related to Neanderthals. Pbs.org just put up a great special on this topic, the third video states that no one living has Neanderthal DNA

Guess you missed the big news a couple of months ago when it was discovered that Europeans and Asians have some Neanderthal DNA.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:08:35 2010 No.1701113 >>1701100 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/07/neanderthal-dna-found-in-_n_567177.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/may/06/neanderthals-dna-humans-genome

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:10:35 2010 No.1701117 >>1701100not at all biologically related We are biologically related to turnips at a certain level.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:13:35 2010 No.1701122 >>1701106 where did you see that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:16:35 2010 No.1701132 >>1701122 You must not follow news.. It was fucking everywhere. It was huge news.

Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:20:35 2010 No.1701146

>>1698639
Jesus didn't exist, at least not what you have conceptualized as him. The majority of what he supposedly taught was borrowed from various speakers of the time and the majority of his life story was borrowed from various pagan legends. If there was a man he has been so covered up with other crap you cannot consider him the same character as is in the bible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:21:35 2010 No.1701152 http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100506/full/news.2010.225.html yes we could at great expense and difficulty recreate something damn similar to a neanderthal. I do in fact know what I'm talking about. Nobody is going to do it, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:26:35 2010 No.1701168 >>1701146 Just going to let you know, Jesus did exist and we do know something about his teachings from sources outside the bible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:26:35 2010 No.1701171 >>1701146 There are written accounts of him other than the bible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:30:35 2010 No.1701179 You're talking about Josephus - Jewish historian - there's decent evidence that his mentions of Jesus were later additions by Christians.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:30:35 2010 No.1701181 >>1701171 I didn't say that there wasn't a man named jesus, I said that if there was he was so different from the bible's depiction of him that you may as well be talking about different people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:32:35 2010 No.1701191 >>1701171 There is one passage in Josephus that may apply to him. That is all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:33:35 2010 No.1701194 >implying niggers are extinct

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:36:35 2010 No.1701203 >>1701194 wtf racism

Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:37:35 2010 No.1701207

>>1701171 No there aren't. All accounts of Jesus originate from the Bible. What's more, the whole story of Jesus is ripped off from earlier religions. The holidays are all yanked from pagan holidays, and the Eucharist is stolen from Egypt, where people worshipped the sun-God Baal and ate a wafer so they could be closer to their god.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:38:35 2010 No.1701212 >>1701203 nigger detected

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:38:35 2010 No.1701215 >>1701203 You are actually surprised by unnecessary illogical racism on on 4chan? You must be new here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:39:35 2010 No.1701217 >>1701212 >>1701215 butthurt whitefags jealous because of their inferior penis sizes

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:39:35 2010 No.1701220 >>1701212 >nigger detected How clever of you, that must be why you're mommy's special snowflake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:41:08 2010 No.1701228 >>1701217 Me >>1701217 >>1701220 Im black and you are an idiot

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:41:35 2010 No.1701231 >>1701217 sup nigger, how's that inferior genetics working for you? The fact that you start off by attempting to dishearten us, "by making fun of our dick size," even proves further you are a mere uneducated Neanderthal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:42:35 2010 No.1701234 >>1701228 what the hell does this even mean

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:42:35 2010 No.1701235 >>1701217 Me >>1701215 >>1701220 Im black and you are an idiot

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:43:35 2010 No.1701241 >>1701231 >my penis is only two inches long

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:43:35 2010 No.1701243 >>1701220 >mommy's special snowflake Nigger detected with mother issues* Fixed

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:43:35 2010 No.1701244 >>1701234 I messed up and miss quoted. Then it took forever until deletion limit let me delete it.

>>	fizx !d75etXAowg Sat Sep 4 02:44:35 2010 No.1701245 >>1698311 Possible? It's done every second of every day. We are all (except Africans) partially Neanderthal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:44:35 2010 No.1701246 >>1701241 >my brain has the capacity of a retarded child

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:45:35 2010 No.1701253 >>1701245 lol whitefags are part caveman >>1701246 butthurt white caveman

Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:45:35 2010 No.1701255
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Dude I'm european background. You and I are much closer to Neanderthal than anyone with an African background.

Of course most American black people have a significant component of white in them as well, so the whole thing is meaningless really.

let's all make fun of australian aborigines

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:45:35 2010 No.1701257 >>1701191 >>1701179 Learn2historicaljesus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:46:35 2010 No.1701260 Dear god I know I am and atheist and don't believe in but please if you get rid of all the retarded underage bans on /sci/ I would build 10 churches in your honor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:47:35 2010 No.1701266 >>1701253 I'd say hell has a better chance of freezing over before a nigger can do simple calculus

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:48:35 2010 No.1701268 >>1701257 >wikipedia link >The neutrality of this article is disputed. Please see the discussion on the talk page. Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved. >14 [citation needed]s

>>	fizx !d75etXAowg Sat Sep 4 02:48:35 2010 No.1701269 >>1701253 Yeah, wait, wut? Homo sapiens has lived in caves for hundreds of thousands of years. We have all been living in caves since our species was even around!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:48:35 2010 No.1701270 File: 11 KB, 320x240, 1283396008411.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] "Neanderthal" My Anthro teacher pronounces this word as "Nee-an-der-TALL". I thought it was "Nee-an-der-THAL"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:49:35 2010 No.1701272 >>1701257 Woops, meant this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:49:35 2010 No.1701273 >>1701253 Whitefags descended from cavemen Nigger ancesters were too stupid to even live in caves Hmm

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:50:35 2010 No.1701279 >>1701270 They kept saying it on the PBS special too. I chalked it up to their Euraccents.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:52:35 2010 No.1701282 I'd say this thread proves that we're all still a bunch of stupid monkeys throwing rocks and shit at each other.

Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:52:35 2010 No.1701284

>>1701266
How surprising a math fag being a racist troll.

You know I think all /sci/ needs to be a better board is to get rid of the math fags. They don't care or know nothing of science they're just super butthurt asspies that are mad becase everyone hates their favorite subject.

>captcha: biopolitical comesonc

lol almost captcha almost

>>	fizx !d75etXAowg Sat Sep 4 02:52:35 2010 No.1701285 File: 108 KB, 600x400, racist.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1701273 >>1701266 >>1701253

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:54:35 2010 No.1701290 >>1701282 Well im not a racist and never was so what does that make me?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:54:35 2010 No.1701291 >>1701284 >Racist troll confirmed for liberal that doesn't want genetic testing done to prove blacks are inferior. Science is nothing without math. Name one decent science you can do without math?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:55:35 2010 No.1701293 >>1701270 It's named after a site in Germany, so it's obviously a t originally because Germans don't have the th sound. But Englishmen do, so they're allowed to say either.

Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:55:35 2010 No.1701295

>>1701284
I'm a racist biofag. Niggers are dumber and more violent. It's in their genes and culture. They have smaller craniums too. Those who left Africa 100,000 years ago > those who stayed. The reality of evolution can be harsh, but it's just reality.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:55:35 2010 No.1701297 >>1701284 does this mean you don't like me any more? :'(

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 02:55:35 2010 No.1701298 Http://www.conservapedia.com/Historicity_of_Jesus&ved=0CCgQFjAI&usg=AFQjCNElLtrs1-E1vivHEcWK h7oBaZFT6w

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:00:35 2010 No.1701309 >>1701298 Please tell me you're trolling by quoting THAT thing.

Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:02:35 2010 No.1701313

>>1701291
Never said math wasn't important it's fanbase is just really bad. Kind of like pokemon.
>>1701297
??? I don't even know who you are
>>1701295
You are no true biofag. I feel bad for you.
You must have some kind of serous insecurity's to think the way you do I hope when you get older you can catch up with the rest of the civilized world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:02:35 2010 No.1701316 >>1701309 Obviously he is trolling, but the article is somewhat correct. Most historians agree that Jesus existed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:02:35 2010 No.1701317 >>1701113 Huffintonpost is hardly a credible source. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-patricia-fitzgerald/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-carrey/the-judgment-on-vaccines_b_189777.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:03:15 2010 No.1701324 >>1698623 HEY YOU KNOW WHATS AMAZING??? I CAN TOTALLY BREED MY PITT BULL WITH A GERMAN SHEPARD. WOOOOOOOOW. JUST LIEK WaT U DID THERE.

Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:07:35 2010 No.1701341

>>1701313
I'm not interested in what is "civilized," I'm interested in what is true, that's why I am a scientist. I am not a big fan of niggers. Evolution has endowed them with traits I do not care for. They are genetically built to be more violent and less intelligent. Why would I like them? I value non-violence and intellect. It's just that simple. The changes that humans who left Africa underwent has made them more to my liking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:07:35 2010 No.1701342 >>1701324 >Implying?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:09:35 2010 No.1701351 File: 12 KB, 385x278, 1270519111808.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1701341 >I am a scientist Sure you are kid sure you are

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:11:35 2010 No.1701357 >>1701341 The problem with that stance is you include Sarah Palin in the cool kids club but exclude David Blackwell. As a maths fag you should know well enough that racial profiling is not a terribly efficient way for screening out idiots.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:11:36 2010 No.1701360 >>1701317 I just used google and those were the first to results. In any case the news was everywhere. There were literally hundred of sources reporting the story, it was big news.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:14:36 2010 No.1701369 >>1701357 I didn't say every nigger was garbage. There are exceptions to the rule.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:16:36 2010 No.1701372 >>1701357 >racial profiling is not a terribly efficient way for screening out idiots. Have you not lived with niggers are something? It's very easy not to be racist when you don't live and interact with niggers every day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:19:36 2010 No.1701377 >>1701369 You're thinking about black people, niggers are all trash.

Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:22:36 2010 No.1701383

>>1701369

Then it's a shitty rule. This is /sci/ence, not /social sci/ence.

>>1701372

Indeed I have not. The only black people I interact with are those who attend my university, and they are gentlemen to the last. If you choose to live in a working class neighbourhood you really have no one to blame but yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:27:36 2010 No.1701396 Wow this thread proves that not only /sci/ is filled with idiots that dont know jackshit about science. Please moot delete this board!

Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:34:36 2010 No.1701411

>>1701383
>If you choose to live in a working class neighbourhood you really have no one to blame but yourself.

So you are saying niggers are highly concentrated in the working class and that the working class is undesirable? Looks like we can agree on something my fellow racist. Anyway, I do not live in a working class neighborhood, but I do leave my neighborhood in order to go to stores and businesses, and their are plenty of niggers there. I drive through many parts of town that are plagued with niggers, and what a plague they are!

Once upon a time though I was a part of the working class, and niggers were frequently my co-workers. I would trade that nigger for any white or mexican. Niggers are too fucking stupid to do even simple tasks properly. They are also very unreliable and show up and leave work when ever they feel like. One nigger even use to run off and smoke crack then show up latter with a big burn on his lip from the pipe. When I started college I would also see lot's of niggers in class for the first weeks of a semester, they would all drop shortly after. Typical niggers.

Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:58:09 2010 No.1701455 [DELETED]

>>1701372
OP do you "niggers every day"?
For some reason I doubt that you do
Im African American/Puerto Rican my neighborhood is mostly middle class and lower middle class blacks, indians, hispanic and white. Some of them are assholes but most of them are just people living dad by day not bothering anyone. There are bad and stupid people of all kreeds and colors and if you cant see that then I have no fucking clue what your deal is.

>>1701396
Agreed, is there any other good /sci/ boards out there that are free of angry middle school kids?

Anonymous Sat Sep 4 03:59:36 2010 No.1701457

>>1701372
OP do you live with "niggers every day"?
For some reason I doubt that you do.
Im African American/Puerto Rican my neighborhood is mostly middle class and lower middle class blacks, indians, hispanic and white. Some of them are assholes but most of them are just people living day by day not bothering anyone. There are bad and stupid people of all kreeds and colors and if you cant see that then I have no fucking clue what your deal is.

>>1701396
Agreed, is there any other good /sci/ boards out there that are free of angry middle school kids?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 04:18:36 2010 No.1701485 >>1701457 99 has one but it's quite slow (for better or worse)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 4 04:57:36 2010 No.1701577 >>1698360 >>1698373 don't mind my new DNA jeans by guess(tm) so hawt

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