/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.16507727]

Spaceflight - Edition
Previous >>16504921

[Anonymous No.16507731]

>>16507727
>spaceflight edition
Imaginative today, are we?

[Anonymous No.16507733]

Appreciate the staging. Now let us marvel at Dragonfly and Titan bros...

[Anonymous No.16507738]

>>16507727
space is so fake and gay, I mean look at that "photo". the moon is bigger than the earth. they always claim its the other way around. the story isnt even consistent

[Anonymous No.16507740]

4th for space-cavemen

[Anonymous No.16507744]

>>16507738
yeah! and they say mars is a whole world, but I've seen it, it's just a tiny dot!

[Anonymous No.16507746]

>>16507740
I hate caves

[Anonymous No.16507747]

[Anonymous No.16507750]

spehs

[Anonymous No.16507754]

Remember this?

[Anonymous No.16507760]

https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/live

booster 14 static fire soon I guess

[Anonymous No.16507765]

>>16507760
static fire happened

[Anonymous No.16507766]

>>16507760
its over

[Anonymous No.16507768]

>>16507760
>>16507766
*yawn* when launch.

[Anonymous No.16507770]

>>16507768
Jan 11

[Anonymous No.16507773]

>>16507768
>is there a sign on my station that reads "dead astronaut storage?"

[Anonymous No.16507778]

>>16507768
Firing up the OMS and slamming everyone into the wall

[Anonymous No.16507784]

>>16507754
what would happen if it didnt have an escape system??? like starship...

[Anonymous No.16507785]

>>16507727
was pretty far out from da moon wasn't it

[Anonymous No.16507786]

>>16507784
it would be extremely painful

[Anonymous No.16507788]

>>16507731
magnificent silver lips edition

[Anonymous No.16507789]

>>16507786
you're a big guy for me

[Anonymous No.16507790]

[Anonymous No.16507791]

>>16507784
REALLY hot staging

[Anonymous No.16507792]

>>16507790
Nellg Wen

[Anonymous No.16507793]

>>16507790
NN37D M?

[Anonymous No.16507796]

>>16507792
Z
Z
W
_|
U

3

[Anonymous No.16507801]

>>16507796
>>16507790
Z
Z
ш
」
ט

ろ

[Anonymous No.16507803]

>>16507733
Cancel Dragonfly not visiting the lakes gay as fuck mission

[Anonymous No.16507804]

>>16507798
Uhhh can we please stop deifying Elon Musk??? Problematic!

[Anonymous No.16507814]

>>16507804
>/sfg/ don't ragebait LARP challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

[Anonymous No.16507816]

>>16507804
The First Elon of Mars will be the divine ideal every subsequent Elon aspires to. It's more about the idea than the man. As it is written in Marsprojekt by the father Wernher von Braun, as it shall be. Amen

[Anonymous No.16507818]

Lead us to greatness.
Amen.

[Anonymous No.16507822]

>>16507818
Who even made this painting?

[Anonymous No.16507823]

>>16507727
Bro you're going the WRONG WAY. The Moon is over THERE WTFFFF

[Anonymous No.16507824]

>>16507790
It actually looks awesome with the navy blue looking text and brown heat material. way better than the all white, kind of like the leap between f9 full thrust and v1.5

[Anonymous No.16507825]

>>16507822
It was made by a computer. The machines themselves sing His praises

[Anonymous No.16507828]

>>16507822
it was divinely inspired, so Musk essentially made it himself by channeling through the artist.

[Anonymous No.16507829]

>>16507825
Absolutely not, this predates AI art by years.

[Anonymous No.16507830]

s80rwnew gwennhop?

[Anonymous No.16507832]

>>16507824
Wrong, it looks gay and artisanal and unavailing

[Anonymous No.16507833]

>>16507747
that was quite funny

[Anonymous No.16507835]

>>16507824
I agree, the contrast of the clean white and dirty panels is a good aesthetic. Hope it launches some time soon.

[Anonymous No.16507836]

>>16507830
It shouldn’t be surprising to anyone paying attention how each NG kuiper launch will be $225 mil a pop

[Anonymous No.16507838]

>>16507836
There's no fucking way
That's so much

[Anonymous No.16507840]

>>16507818
Trump should've hanged this painting in the Notur Damm a few days ago when the visited

[Anonymous No.16507841]

>>16507804
its b8 m8

[Anonymous No.16507842]

>>16507823
it's not that straight forward in spaceflight

[Anonymous No.16507845]

>>16507731

[Anonymous No.16507846]

[Anonymous No.16507847]

NSF did an interview with the astronaut who took the "space traffic" video from the ISS where you can see starlink in orbit. Seems like a super cool dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYlPy7DwOw8 (Scroll back in the live, the interview is already over)

[Anonymous No.16507848]

>>16507846
is this real? redpill me on it

[Anonymous No.16507849]

What lurketh at the bottom of the Europan depths?

[Anonymous No.16507852]

>>16507803
>Cancel Dragonfly not visiting the lakes gay as fuck mission
Is that confirmed? What the fuck? How do you fuck up the most exciting mission since the Mars rovers?

[Anonymous No.16507853]

>>16507849
roggs

[Anonymous No.16507854]

>>16507849
what the fuck is that?
looks like some fungal growth on a peice of chicken left out for 5 months

[Anonymous No.16507855]

>>16507854
some weird deep sea sponge type animal. So fucking bizarre

[Anonymous No.16507856]

>>16507848
That's what bacteriophages evolved from.

[Anonymous No.16507859]

>>16507849
nothing because pressures will be too high there the ocean there is significantly deeper, even if we were to take the shallower approximations it's still likely to be at least 40 miles deep almost everywhere, about 4x deeper than challenger deep.

[Anonymous No.16507860]

>>16507849
There is 100% life on Europa, I'm convinced of it now. The water there has been around longer than it has on Earth.

[Anonymous No.16507861]

>>16507849
Your mom

[Anonymous No.16507862]

Watching this spaceflight related video right now:
https://youtu.be/ryRcPeOM1sY?feature=shared&t=313

[Anonymous No.16507863]

>>16507860
there is no life on europa

there might be life inside of europa :^)

[Anonymous No.16507865]

>>16507788
God you're such a fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.16507866]

>>16507863
there's no life *on* earth because we're all under the atmosphere >:3

[Anonymous No.16507867]

>>16507848
its the spiders on the moon

[Anonymous No.16507868]

>>16507862
holy shit that tiny squid just got fucked up.

can't wait to see what kind of tentacled rapemonsters are down in europa's oceans.
maybe some sexy ones?

[Anonymous No.16507869]

>>16507845
this edit always gets a slight chuckle out of me

[Anonymous No.16507872]

>>16507859
Pressure doesn't really matter. Do you feel 15 pounds pushing against every square inch of your body right now?

[Anonymous No.16507873]

CZ-5B with YZ-2 upper stage to launch on Sunday 15 at 11h00 UTC (Backup on monday), with the first bach of Guowang/Zhongguo XingWang LEO Broadband constellation (LEO Group 01)

[Anonymous No.16507874]

>>16507804
no

[Anonymous No.16507876]

>>16507873
I love fat five, best chinese rocket unironically

[Anonymous No.16507877]

>>16507849
I've seen that on my cum sock pile before. Nothing special

[Anonymous No.16507878]

>>16507818
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.16507880]

>>16507847
Did he finally find the technology? Was it painful?

[Anonymous No.16507884]

>>16507872
it really does matter
enough to make people change their recipies when baking in different altitudes and climates

[Anonymous No.16507887]

Reminder that ultrareliable ramjet powered helicopters used to exist

[Anonymous No.16507888]

>>16507887
fuck helicopters

[Anonymous No.16507890]

>>16507849
ugh... evropa

[Anonymous No.16507891]

>>16507849
Compositionally and physically identical to Earth but completely sterile

[Anonymous No.16507892]

>>16507867
the spiders were on mars numbnuts

[Anonymous No.16507893]

>>16507888
fuck you

[Anonymous No.16507895]

>>16507891
>but completely sterile

Unless the submarine we send there accidentally introduces some microbes

[Anonymous No.16507896]

https://x.com/Tesla_Optimus/status/1866171391156113740

Optimi on mars will be a thing

[Anonymous No.16507899]

>>16507896

[Anonymous No.16507900]

>>16507899
lmaooo

[Anonymous No.16507906]

>Sednoids
What's up with the freakishly long orbits? Do you think we'll find more in the coming years?

[Anonymous No.16507908]

>>16507906
Captured interstellar debris?

[Anonymous No.16507909]

>>16507906
PlanetX

[Anonymous No.16507910]

>>16507896
https://x.com/_milankovac_/status/1866181640147652980

[Anonymous No.16507916]

>>16507906
Protoplanets and/or captured debris from interstellar space.

[Anonymous No.16507917]

We should expand the EL-N religion lore.

[Anonymous No.16507923]

>>16507906
WE GAAAAANNNNN

[Anonymous No.16507925]

https://x.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1866186474346991896
>Austria and Panama will sign the Artemis Accords on Wednesday (Dec 11) at NASA HQ, bringing the total to 50.

[Anonymous No.16507926]

>>16507923
Too slow

[Anonymous No.16507927]

>>16507923
What kind of science are we planning to do with a 27km/s flyby speed?

[Anonymous No.16507929]

>>16507925
now we just need jamaica and cuba. start building those launch sites

[Anonymous No.16507930]

>>16507927
Scanning things

[Anonymous No.16507931]

Clipper and JUICE health status?

[Anonymous No.16507934]

>>16507923
My brain is glitching trying to understand how merely flying close to certain objects can increase the velocity this much. Also wouldn't the spacecraft get fried going that close to the sun?

[Anonymous No.16507935]

>>16507930
New Horizons had a flyby speed of about 13.5 km/s and was looking at something the size of a planet. Oumuamua is only between 250m and 1km long

[Anonymous No.16507937]

>>16507906
>freakishly long orbit
That's cute, HOWEVER.

[Anonymous No.16507938]

>>16507930
what sort of weapons does it have just in case it spots aliens

[Anonymous No.16507939]

>>16507935
Also the thing would be not well lit by the sun. Taking a picture could be problematic considering the high speed and long exposure time needed.

[Anonymous No.16507941]

>>16507937
kek, I know there are some 2017 MB7 posters lurking here

[Anonymous No.16507942]

>>16507927
just slow down when you get to it?

[Anonymous No.16507943]

>>16507935
use hand brake

[Anonymous No.16507944]

>>16507938
24oz of New Horizons weight is dedicated to a FTS set to explode if the spacecraft is ever opened.

[Anonymous No.16507946]

>>16507944
We already discussed this in the context of Perseverance using explosives to dig up deeper rock layers but came to the conclusion that explosives in space are problematic.

[Anonymous No.16507949]

>>16507946
>explosives in space are problematic
I don't have a problem with it

[Anonymous No.16507954]

>>16507949
We need to leave these native Martian lands clean and pristine, do peaceful science, not blow the place up you bigot.

[Anonymous No.16507957]

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1866159337997029856
>Former NASA Administrator Mike Griffin recently released an updated version of his dual-launch Artemis plan to get humans to the Moon. It relies on two SLS Block II launches and a lander that doesn't exist.

https://figshare.com/articles/journal_contribution/A_System_Architecture_for_Human_Lunar_Return_12_Oct_2024_pdf/27237888
>A System Architecture for Human Lunar Return 12 Oct 2024.pdf
>The history of and the present approach to U.S. human lunar landing missions are discussed, with attention to the importance of maintaining leadership in space from the perspective of U.S. global stature and influence. The NASA Artemis lunar mission architecture and plans are outlined and programmatic and technical issues contributing to the complexity and fragility of the present mission design are discussed. An alternative dual-launch architecture is offered and a point-design within that architecture is assessed. The proposed design assumes a crewed lander based on existing technology, incorporates flight proven systems for other elements, and is shown to meet NASA’s basic Artemis requirement – four crew to the lunar South Polar region for a week – with significantly reduced complexity and crew and mission risk.

[Anonymous No.16507958]

>>16507942
nothing has 27000m/s dv

[Anonymous No.16507961]

>>16507925
Lol imagine the future where China and Russia have a solid moon base and America is forced to cope about gateway
Every day I thank God for SpaceX

[Anonymous No.16507962]

>>16507934
>Also wouldn't the spacecraft get fried going that close to the sun?
Yes. It's a meme, but maybe possible with some of the parker solar probe tech.

[Anonymous No.16507963]

>>16507896
when will these things stop walking like they're trying to take a shit?

[Anonymous No.16507964]

>>16507927
impact study

[Anonymous No.16507965]

>>16507954
aliums must be presumed hostile, we have to strike first

[Anonymous No.16507967]

>>16507937
>only 18 light days away

[Anonymous No.16507968]

>>16507958
lithobrake

[Anonymous No.16507969]

>>16507957
Isn't this just constellation?

[Anonymous No.16507970]

https://x.com/blueorigin/status/1866198298090000481

[Anonymous No.16507971]

>>16507896
Remarkable. Tesla was years behind competition, but this is actually on par with what other robotics companies can do.

[Anonymous No.16507977]

>>16507958
Not even Orion drive?

[Anonymous No.16507979]

>>16507910
>Desperately asking for people to work
That gives me the ick. You shouldn't need to constantly advertise that if you were really worth it

[Anonymous No.16507980]

>>16507958
wrong

[Anonymous No.16507982]

>>16507968

[Anonymous No.16507983]

>>16507958
You could get that much delta-v using one of Starlink's ion thrusters on a probe with a 3:1 mass ratio. The problem is that those engine need about 4.2 kW to run and Cassini's RTGs only could put out 800W at their freshest. A big RTG array or an actual reactor could get the job done, but the best that a fully expended Falcon Heavy could fling to LYRA's launch C3 of 50 km2/s2 is about 9,000 kg. You'd only be looking at about 2 tons of probe, and you'd still need to include some mass for the best heat shield NASA has ever built so it can survive flying that close to the sun. More likely you'd need to use Starship or New Glenn with a big kickstage to get the whole mess outbound to Jupiter

[Anonymous No.16507984]

>>16507977
not real
>>16507980
prove it

[Anonymous No.16507986]

>>16507899
I loved the first one, is the second any good? on mars I mean

[Anonymous No.16507989]

>>16507917
his name is 异龙 (Yilong), alien dragon

[Anonymous No.16507990]

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1866205160693010587

[Anonymous No.16507991]

THEY SHOW THE BOTTOM POV

FUCK YEA

[Anonymous No.16507992]

>>16507983
does that have enough thrust to slow down significantly in that amount of time?

[Anonymous No.16507993]

>>16507990
ENGINES

[Anonymous No.16507994]

POV: Your a stupid fucking beetle that just wandered onto a steel plate

[Anonymous No.16507995]

>>16507990
the amount of beetles and ants that died there...

[Anonymous No.16507996]

>>16507822
https://www.conorwalton.com/figure_paintings3/salvator_tuesday.html

[Anonymous No.16507997]

>>16507929
lel, you can't even sell old cars to cuba
no one is sending ballistic missile technology there (last time everyone got really mad)

[Anonymous No.16507999]

>>16507995
do they have to move any ant nests near their rocket sites????

[Anonymous No.16508002]

>>16507997
>last time everyone got really mad

[Anonymous No.16508004]

any news about solid snake anon??? He had infiltrated Starbase the night before ITF6, and then completely disappeared. I hope the secret service is taking good care of him...

[Anonymous No.16508005]

>>16507847
Nigga Don Pettit is not simply "an astronaut"

[Anonymous No.16508006]

>>16507996
Thank you very much

[Anonymous No.16508007]

[Anonymous No.16508009]

>>16508005
He’s king autist I love him so much

[Anonymous No.16508011]

>>16507738
They also say that the "Moon" has a diameter of 2160 miles and yet it's no bigger than an aerial marker on a power line. Lies upon lies.

[Anonymous No.16508013]

>>16508007
BEETLE HOLOCAUST

[Anonymous No.16508016]

>>16508007
TOTAL
ANT
DEATH

[Anonymous No.16508017]

>>16507986
I liked it, but I'll elaborate. It's not the same game, but more. There is a heavier story focus and a lot of dialog (most of which is optional, characters just walk around the level while you solving the puzzles). This replaces a lot of terminal reading (which still exists). The levels are more open form and scenic, but this creates a walking time issue. The puzzles (the most important part) are still quite plentiful and there is a bunch of new mechanics. And as for the DLC, it's great all around, except that its third part was so hard that I just gave up. Personally, 8/10.

[Anonymous No.16508018]

>>16508007
area looks fumigated to me

[Anonymous No.16508019]

>>16507997
? we could annex cuba in a matter of hours

[Anonymous No.16508024]

>>16508019
You should’ve paid attention in 9th grade history anon, come on

[Anonymous No.16508030]

>>16508007
https://x.com/thunderf00t/status/1863146387724005519

[Anonymous No.16508032]

>Micrometeoroids and Orbital Debris (MMOD) flying at hypervelocity speeds in space can pose a threat to spacecraft. For Haven-1, we are building a shield that will cover the entire station to protect against these impacts.

>Here, our Senior Mechanical Engineer, Michelle Carlomusto, is installing the outer aluminum bumper layer of our shield. Behind that, there is a composite middle layer and then the pressure hull. Together, this shield can stop a 1/4" aluminum projectile at 6.5 kilometers per second.

Progress report for /sfg/. Incoming NASA admin takes notice

[Anonymous No.16508035]

>>16507906
>What's up with the freakishly long orbits?

Planet 9

[Anonymous No.16508037]

>>16507970
>hotdog in a hallway joke

[Anonymous No.16508038]

>>16508035
Fake and gay meme made by Kike Brown the astronomer in Hawaii to perpetuate funding to his laboratories.

[Anonymous No.16508040]

>>16507887
>ultrareliable

[Anonymous No.16508042]

>>16508032
and heres a picture of a secretary with colored hair pretending to work

[Anonymous No.16508044]

>>16507930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDOwK8wn__U
Every time I see this

[Anonymous No.16508047]

>>16507934
>My brain is glitching trying to understand how merely flying close to certain objects can increase the velocity this much
It's stealing a little bit of the velocity of the larger object

[Anonymous No.16508048]

>>16508042
>Colored hair
Retard-kun...

[Anonymous No.16508049]

>>16508042
Anon has never seen a ginger before

[Anonymous No.16508052]

>>16508011
>planes fly at 40,000 feet
>need to avoid wires barely 20 feet off the ground

[Anonymous No.16508053]

>>16508042
everyone's hair is colored dipshit

[Anonymous No.16508054]

>>16508042
>doesnt know what a ginger is
you have 2 orders of magnitude less iq than her.

[Anonymous No.16508055]

>>16508042
>Incel loser who has seen more anime girls then real women taking shots at a Senior ME working in the space field
Cope, seethe, and then kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.16508058]

>>16508053
Some people have black or white hair.

[Anonymous No.16508060]

>>16508054
do dyslexic people hate gingers?

[Anonymous No.16508061]

>>16508058
those are colors

[Anonymous No.16508063]

Elon replied to Manley again
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1866144824832778332

[Anonymous No.16508065]

>>16507754
Still in awe of the camera operator zooming on the capsule to avoid showing the rocket exploding (though they may have been broadcasting with some delay)

[Anonymous No.16508067]

>>16508054
>>16508048
>>16508049

thats not a natural hair color idiot

[Anonymous No.16508068]

>>16508063
There's also that the government is absolute garbage at (among other things) project management and making not-retarded requirements

[Anonymous No.16508069]

Google CEO and Elon chatting about quantum supercomputers launched on Starship someday
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1866176382411145602

[Anonymous No.16508070]

>>16508067
Everyone laugh at this anon

[Anonymous No.16508071]

>>16508067
does she also dye her eyebrows?

[Anonymous No.16508074]

>>16508067
>very white skin
>hair down to roots is same color
>eyebrows also same color
>is within range for gingers
>arm hair also same color from outline
but since you dont talk to women and have never seen a ginger woman its not natural right?

[Anonymous No.16508075]

>>16508071
there are a few more areas to check if we want to assess all the evidence but even then it'll be inconclusive without more data.

[Anonymous No.16508076]

>Multiple /sfg/ anons self reporting they don't know what a woman's natural hair looks like
I'm cracking up right now

[Anonymous No.16508077]

>>16508067
There are more GINGERS out there than you'd expect.

[Anonymous No.16508078]

>>16508074
>>16508071
yes women dye eye brows too
u can see the roots are much darker

[Anonymous No.16508080]

>>16508078
Anon... just stop. You're just making it worse

[Anonymous No.16508081]

>>16508078
THATS CALLED SHADOWS YOU FUCKING MORON THE ABSENCE OF LIGHT THAT IS OBVIOUSLY A GINGER EVEN THE ARM HAIR IS THE SAME COLOR AND NOBODY DYES THEIR EYEBROWS GO TALK TO SOME WOMEN BEFORE GETTING ON HERE AND TELLING US ABOUT THEM

[Anonymous No.16508082]

>>16507934
for this one specifically there's a STAR solid rocket motor at least once

[Anonymous No.16508083]

>>16508081
>>16508080
post proof that isn't a woman with dyed hair & eye brows and waxed arms

[Anonymous No.16508084]

Can they leave?

> Well...

Then they are stuck.

[Anonymous No.16508085]

>>16508083
>Make retarded claim
>Get called out
>SOURCE? SOURCE?
lol faggot

[Anonymous No.16508086]

>>16508084
Based Kuiper Belt anon

[Anonymous No.16508087]

>>16508069
Google still own something like 5% of SpaceX IIRC

[Anonymous No.16508088]

>>16508084
they could if they really wanted to. they just don't since this is the last chance they'll get to live in space. If I were them i'd be milking it too. If there were an emergency they would be down and on Earth in 5 minutes.

[Anonymous No.16508089]

>>16507990
>>16507994
this is the FIRST TIME EVER that we've gotten an upskirt shot of the booster while all the engines are lit.
nobody cares?

[Anonymous No.16508090]

natural red head behind her, she clearly colors her hair, and is also a man

[Anonymous No.16508091]

>HES STILL GOING

[Anonymous No.16508092]

>>16508080
She was 35?! She looks maybe 14 or 15

[Anonymous No.16508094]

>>16508090
>Incel who doesn't know what women look like is also a transvestigator.
IMAGINE MY SHOCK

[Anonymous No.16508095]

>>16508089
there are two posts exclaiming about the engine shot in between the two posts you linked?

[Anonymous No.16508096]

>>16508090
did you know that there are different shades of natural red hair?
also, retard or troll?

[Anonymous No.16508097]

>>16508091
how many people in this photo are German or Jewish. im curious

[Anonymous No.16508098]

>>16508080
hot

[Anonymous No.16508099]

>>16508090
ginger on the left is a man, I can tell by the way he ties his hair

[Anonymous No.16508101]

>>16508092
We need astronauts like this again.

[Anonymous No.16508102]

>>16508101
why can't we send actual 14 year old girls to space?
we need to know how microgravity affects their wombs.

[Anonymous No.16508103]

>>16508098
yes

[Anonymous No.16508104]

>>16508090
you've gone off the deep end nigger, i wouldn't be surprised if you end up unironically trannyfying yourself and shoving your axe wound in people's faces to say
>LOOK AT ME LOOK AT HOW DISGUSTING TROONS ARE YOU FUCKING TROON

you are sorely lacking in pattern recognition capabilities, i'd wager a good amount of money you can't even keep a pajeet and a chink apart.

[Anonymous No.16508105]

>>16508104
>>16508099
>>16508096
>>16508094
4 brown people who have never seen a white person in their lives

[Anonymous No.16508106]

>>16508102
That's the plot of pic related, "Rocket Girls", where a tiny space agency launches from the equator and selects the lightest test pilots possible: teenage anime girls.

[Anonymous No.16508107]

>>16508105
Post a picture of yourself with a woman.

[Anonymous No.16508108]

>>16508105
>seething instead of apologizing for his spergout
i accept your concession.

[Anonymous No.16508109]

>>16507812
The Elon will be eternal, after his ascension to the Golden Throne of Mars

[Anonymous No.16508112]

>>16507795
>only the penitent man may pass
But in the Martian alphabet, Elon begins with an I...

[Anonymous No.16508114]

>>16508101
Tomboy astronauts for the win

[Anonymous No.16508116]

>>16508106
flat chest would seem to be a nobrainer though

[Anonymous No.16508118]

>>16508116
They're ballast.

[Anonymous No.16508119]

[Anonymous No.16508122]

no way

[Anonymous No.16508124]

>>16508092
Before smartphones were microwaving people's faces people looked younger

[Anonymous No.16508125]

>>16508118
ahhh, planning for splashdown contingencies, very clever. perhaps saves weight on other flotation devices.

[Anonymous No.16508126]

>>16508103
looks like a touch of injun blood in her

[Anonymous No.16508127]

>for the price of one shuttle flight you could launch the entire international space station twice
>in 6 months
NASA is really ignoring the falcon 9 aren't they

[Anonymous No.16508128]

>>16508127
life support is an unsolved problem and it would take a few trillion if you want to build a new space station

[Anonymous No.16508134]

>>16508128
>life support is an unsolved problem
what do you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.16508135]

>Why is Blue Ring so important?
>There is a growing demand to quickly move and position equipment and infrastructure in multiple orbits.
>Blue Ring has advanced propulsion and communication capabilities for government and commercial customers to handle these maneuvers precisely and efficiently.
>This Blue Ring Pathfinder is equipped with storage and compute virtualization to demonstrate anomaly detection using machine learning.
>Its mission kit provides high-performance, radiation-tolerant compute and storage akin to today’s cloud-based offerings.

[Anonymous No.16508140]

>>16508128
I just meant launch costs. ISS as is.

[Anonymous No.16508141]

>>16508135
>There is a growing demand to quickly move and position equipment and infrastructure in multiple orbits
Like what

[Anonymous No.16508143]

>>16508032
>ESA

ASTEROID DEFLECTION BY MEANS OF ELECTROMAGNETIC FORCES DURING AN EARTH FLYBY

>THE PENNSYLVANIA STATE UNIVERSITY
>SCHREYER HONORS COLLEGE
>DEPARTMENT OF AEROSPACE ENGINEERING

PLASMA AND MAGNETIC SHIELDING FOR SPACECRAFT PROTECTION

>An approach for electromagnetic deflection of high energy particles, space dust, and micrometeoroids for the purpose of protecting spacecraft is investigated.

First, a general equation system is established, with the most significant force component being that from the Lorentz force.
An additional mechanism for aiding the deflection through the means of increasing the charge of the particle when in contact with an artificial plasma is presented.
Various results from simulations are shown, taking into account different spacecraft and plasma parameters.
High energy protons are successfully deflected by solely using a field on the order of 10 -4 Tesla.
Some micrometeoroids in the microgram weight range are also deflected with magnetic field and plasma density on the order of 100 Tesla and 1015 m-3 , respectively.
Heavier micrometeoroids on the range of a microgram are seen to be deflected at extremely high magnetic fields on the order
of 4000 Tesla at head-on trajectories.

Unless a new technological breakthrough occurs in this area, such a high field is impossible to currently engineer. However, a 100 Tesla field makes deflection possible for 70.8 percent of 1000 particles simulated using random trajectories for the same microgram particle in a 10 15 m-3 artificial plasma.

[Anonymous No.16508149]

doing pallet math on the bananas heading to Starbase from Chiquita

[Anonymous No.16508152]

>>16508149
Im seriously shocked at the amount of idiots i’m seeing on my twitter timeline who are just now realizing the last flight patch was supposed to be a banana sticker. People are so dumb it’s unreal

[Anonymous No.16508155]

>>16508152
what's a good program to help me lay out pallets in a cylinder

[Anonymous No.16508156]

>>16508155
Sketchup

[Anonymous No.16508161]

>>16508143
No idea why people ignore Ruth Bamford's work on creating a charge separation in the solar wind using a relatively then using that to enhance the shielding effect.
Yes if you model a beam of protons it requires a high field to deflect. But in reality you have electrons too and that changes things

[Anonymous No.16508162]

>>16508155
Just remember that with Starship’s new header tank, the actual payload area has now been reduced to approximately 1 cubic meter

[Anonymous No.16508163]

>>16508162
wow, a whole cubic kilomillimeter

[Anonymous No.16508164]

>>16508162
the interior payload is still just an 8m cylinder right? the height doesn't matter because I'm only putting a single layer of pallets in because building a whole scaffold/payload adapter would be too expensive

[Anonymous No.16508167]

>>16508162
but that cubic meter could easily contain 100 tons to the moon

[Anonymous No.16508169]

>>16508005
>4/20 69

[Anonymous No.16508170]

>>16508162
That's fine, I can easily fit in a cubic meter.

[Anonymous No.16508174]

>Elon-Mueller alliance is over
WTF

[Anonymous No.16508175]

>>16508174
He washed out.

[Anonymous No.16508176]

>>16508174
Mike Griffin has gone senile

[Anonymous No.16508177]

>>16508174
Made me check faggot

[Anonymous No.16508178]

>>16508141
Like what

[Anonymous No.16508179]

>>16508174
>>16508176
so he isnt even talking about Elon? so this is how fake news starts

[Anonymous No.16508180]

https://richcurtisdesign.blogspot.com/2012/09/falcon-shuttle-mars-erv.html?m=1

[Anonymous No.16508181]

>>16507986
Also, they are remaking the first one.
https://youtu.be/xfJhq3wY4Vk

[Anonymous No.16508182]

>>16508176
sad

[Anonymous No.16508183]

>>16508176
Now we need Zubrin to propose an alternative architecture with Jupiter

[Anonymous No.16508184]

>>16508180
In awe of this thing

[Anonymous No.16508185]

>>16508184
This made me lean forward in my chair and raise my eyebrows involuntarily

[Anonymous No.16508186]

>>16508176
moon landing for 2035

[Anonymous No.16508187]

You get ONE(1) close flyby of a single TNO for a detailed analysis, Which do you choose?

[Anonymous No.16508188]

WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY PLANNING?

[Anonymous No.16508189]

>>16508184
>>16508185
CANCEL BFR RIGHT NOW AND BUILD THIS WTF?

[Anonymous No.16508190]

>>16508187
Proxima Centauri

[Anonymous No.16508191]

>>16508032
>>16508090
Must suck living in a place there blonde and red heads are so uncommon that one would genuinely believe this hair color doesn't exist naturally.

[Anonymous No.16508192]

>>16508180
>>16508188
/sfg/ used to be actual autists finding interesting things in the corner of the internet.
Now all you faggots just repost shit you see in your twitter fyp like 12 hours after it’s already been posted

[Anonymous No.16508193]

>>16508188
I'm going to give a mass estimate soon

[Anonymous No.16508195]

[Anonymous No.16508196]

>>16508188
Had to block this retard for shitting up my feed constantly.

[Anonymous No.16508197]

>>16508188
jelly banana

[Anonymous No.16508198]

>>16508192
I'm going to post things here and then post them to twitter

[Anonymous No.16508199]

>>16508187
Aren't most of those just asteroids? I guess getting detailed images of Sedna or Eris would be neat.

[Anonymous No.16508200]

A FUCKING BANANA COMPANY

[Anonymous No.16508203]

>>16508187
PlanetX>>16508189

[Anonymous No.16508204]

>>16508200
we live in a banana republic

[Anonymous No.16508205]

>>16508197
We're already on a good worldline don't start fucking around with it now

[Anonymous No.16508206]

[Anonymous No.16508207]

>>16508206
that’s insane

[Anonymous No.16508211]

>>16508206
Imagine showing this pic to someone from like circa 2005 they would simply die if you tried explaining Starship to them

[Anonymous No.16508220]

ye standard pallet
starship payload bay

[Anonymous No.16508228]

>>16508220
>he actually used sketchup
Based

[Anonymous No.16508233]

>>16508228
loads of banana

[Anonymous No.16508235]

>>16508211
just tell them it's like the space shuttle if the space shuttle didn't suck ass

[Anonymous No.16508236]

>>16508188
Probably going to stack the V2 paylaod bayto the brim with banana palletes to BTFO payload to LEO deniers.

[Anonymous No.16508238]

>>16508236
Woah, one whole cubic banan pallet

[Anonymous No.16508240]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothetical_moon_of_Mercury

[Anonymous No.16508244]

>>16508038
First he killed off Pluto purely to serve his own interests (he openly admits this)
Now this Planet 9 grift

[Anonymous No.16508246]

>>16508220
Stick one of these in a Starship and send 'er

[Anonymous No.16508251]

>>16508184
>>16508185
>The forbidden Tenga.

[Anonymous No.16508252]

>>16508007
It's gonna be wild when they mount 33 Ratpor3s and the thrust output seen in that gif basically goes up 30% even at the lowest threshold

[Anonymous No.16508255]

>>16508030
Surprised that faggot hasn't hopped onto bluesky instead.

[Anonymous No.16508257]

>>16508161
the beam you're describing could be captured if natural forces were reoriented artificially, doesn't occur under normal conditions

not the one here who knows about relativity, personally I think it's supposed relationship with light is somewhat arbitrary
light is weird, moves like a wave and a particle

[Anonymous No.16508263]

>>16508240
>Hypothesis: Mercury has a moon
>Analysis: No moon can be found
>Synthesis: Mercury has no moon

[Anonymous No.16508264]

[Anonymous No.16508265]

>>16508263
well it's a good thing we checked

[Anonymous No.16508267]

Monkey business
https://x.com/Starlink/status/1866277205078360111

[Anonymous No.16508277]

Future Mars robot (blind right now)

[Anonymous No.16508278]

>>16508277
Put one in the desert and have it walk 10 miles. I don't doubt that it'll be able to, I just wanna see it.

[Anonymous No.16508279]

Which would be more based and Orc pilled? Orion, or the Fizzer?

[Anonymous No.16508280]

>>16508277
Is that Joe Biden? xD

[Anonymous No.16508285]

>>16508278
We'll get one later. Right now they're just doing this for the sake of it. I want to see a better locomotion from these bots.

[Anonymous No.16508287]

>>16508277
why don't they give him some boots?

[Anonymous No.16508289]

>>16508176
either they go with starship(maybe falcon heavy) or china gets humans there first. It's that simple

[Anonymous No.16508291]

>>16508252
The first booster with Raptor 3 will probably be a Block 2, which will probably have 35 engines. As Elon says ~triple a Saturn V's thrust.

[Anonymous No.16508294]

>Raptor 3
Will never be reliable enough

[Anonymous No.16508297]

>>16508287
Funnier this way

[Anonymous No.16508298]

>>16508185
You can't just take 12 Falcons and put them together. It's not that easy in rocketry.

[Anonymous No.16508301]

>>16508279
I mean it's not a NSWR but the fizzer is pretty based

[Anonymous No.16508303]

>>16508301
NSWR is simply a sensible and practical idea and nobody can convince me otherwise.

[Anonymous No.16508314]

yall sleepin on Grok

[Anonymous No.16508317]

>>16508314
Im not the artistic kind, so i have limited capacity in that regards

[Anonymous No.16508325]

>>16508314
Incredible

[Anonymous No.16508329]

>>16508314
No way this is real? I run flux locally and it cant do that out the box.

[Anonymous No.16508334]

>>16508329
Grok Aurora is some in-house magic apparently

[Anonymous No.16508335]

>>16508314

[Anonymous No.16508338]

>>16508335
Wtf are those marks

[Anonymous No.16508341]

>>16508338
Shit the script has been told to put there to avoid blind people thinking it's real.

[Anonymous No.16508342]

you guys are just joking about new glenn being a flop, right?
in 2025, the US will have some decent reusable rockets that arent just spacex, right?

[Anonymous No.16508343]

>>16508342
new glenn is a flop.
but new armstrong is the real deal

[Anonymous No.16508351]

>>16507984
>not real
Was considered feasible until the project was cancelled due to the nuclear test ban treaty and the lack of need to send thousands of tons to other planets.

[Anonymous No.16508353]

>>16508329
Its not flux. Its new model they trained in house

https://x.ai/blog/grok-image-generation-release

[Anonymous No.16508355]

>>16507873
First pc of CZ5B Y6

[Anonymous No.16508359]

>16508105
>going full retard
holy shit its' been a while

[Anonymous No.16508382]

>>16508314
Do you have premium or something? I can't even get it to draw a decent falcon 9

[Anonymous No.16508385]

my math suggests ~60 tons of bananas if you just fork them into the payload bay on pallets in the boxes they come in and then ratchet strap them down

[Anonymous No.16508409]

>>16507727
fuck you.

[Anonymous No.16508411]

accidentally did my math for 18m diameter starship

[Anonymous No.16508412]

>>16508409
good night, anon

[Anonymous No.16508416]

>>16508385
Can bananas stand up to the G forces involved in launch? or would you be delivering banana pudding to the mars colony

[Anonymous No.16508419]

sfg - squishy fruits general

[Anonymous No.16508424]

>>16508416
they get stacked pretty deep for transport, and the third and fourth derivatives of position are much much lower than on road transport, so I think overall the ride will be pretty gentle from their perspective
~30 tons if you stack em as they come out of the truck

[Anonymous No.16508432]

>>16508382
Nah, it is a weird beast. have you used it since they made changes?

[Anonymous No.16508434]

>>16508279
Orion
>Actually works
>Possible with current technology
>75,000 Isp
>0.08-0.1c
Fusion orion is literally some Isaac Arthur shit and we could launch one right now if we wanted.

[Anonymous No.16508436]

>>16508055
erm rocketgirl posters...
how do we recover?

[Anonymous No.16508445]

>>16508434
is this with the casaba howitzer efficiency modification? boosted fission or outright two-stage teller-ulam device

[Anonymous No.16508446]

>>16508436
you're projecting your own insecurities on the rest of us, anon
not all of us don't know what a woman looks like

[Anonymous No.16508447]

>>16508446
i know what a fox women looks like tho

[Anonymous No.16508448]

>>16508447
do you have any drawings of where the tail connects to the spine

[Anonymous No.16508452]

>>16508314
>>16508382
This is what it thinks a female blue anthropomorphic fox looks like

[Anonymous No.16508453]

>>16508385
>first Starship payload to orbit will be flatpak crates of bananas yeeted into low earth orbit
>it will literally be raining bananas
>the entire world seethes as a private company puts up sixty tons of fruit
>as a fucking joke
>and nobody else has that capability
>and it would cost less than any of their current rockets to do that
this outcome is the most hilarious one, which per Elon's axiom, is the most likely

[Anonymous No.16508454]

>>16508453
30 tons, I did my math for 18 meter starship and decided to be charitable and stack it twice as deep on the second round

[Anonymous No.16508455]

https://youtu.be/g-DjBHroA1I

[Anonymous No.16508456]

>>16508453
>nooooo, you can't just launch food into space, you could've fed the poor, rocket man evil, reeee
I can already see it lmao

[Anonymous No.16508458]

>>16508446
It's pretty good sometimes

[Anonymous No.16508459]

>>16508434
Sure, but you're going to have to upgrade fusion weapons production by several orders of magnitude to have any kind of useful fleet. That's going to be insanely expensive, burning nukes as starship fuel. Also how long can you sustain that kind of operation? Going to be uranium ore issues pretty fast when you only get like 2% yield into fissionable uranium.

Just invest that into beamed power stations instead. Laser sail, laser thermal, microwave, whatever. High upfront cost, upkeep minimal. As opposed to burning expensive high technology as fuel.

[Anonymous No.16508462]

>>16508459
>fissionable uranium
harvest plutonium out of a uranium breeder plant
harvest uranium out of a thorium breeder plant
either one works

[Anonymous No.16508465]

>>16508462
You're going to need a LOT more nuclear reactors dude. And they are all fed from uranium fundamentally.

[Anonymous No.16508467]

>>16508465
thorium is not fed from uranium
also you can just harvest uranium out of seawater

[Anonymous No.16508468]

>>16508434
>0.1c
>30,000km/s
>2.92 days to Mars
Problem is that you'll have to slow down, so 5 days to Mars. That's pretty good. But you'll run out of fissible first before you can scale this architecture out in a meaningful way. Also extraction of nuclear material and use of it in such a way, at scale, creates immense environmental and strategic/national security risks, as you'd need hundreds or even thousands of facilities producing basically nukes to supply fleets of Orion ships. Which makes it easy for any disgruntled yahoo to walk off with a pocket nuke or detonate one in any such facility, grinding the efficiency of it all, to a halt. Orion is a cool concept, but a really shit architecture because the security and management overhead costs to keep it flying is nightmarish and vastly in excess of anything chemprop or just waiting long enough to do traditional fusion torches or just skip that step straight to anti-proton engines.

[Anonymous No.16508469]

>At 0.2c for a 6 light year distance, erosion is estimated to be in the order of about 30 kg/m2 or about 1 cm of aluminum shielding.[24][25]

Erm am I reading this right. 30 years at 20% of lightspeed and all you lose is a piece of aluminum thinner than my finger? One ref is a dead link and the other has nothing to do with that.

[Anonymous No.16508472]

>>16508458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH96kCLdhUM

[Anonymous No.16508474]

>>16508469
No, you'll likely need 10x that. Space is big and space is empty, but the problem is we have no data of anything beyond our heliopause. The probability of a lot of rogue material out there is significant and 1cm of aluminum is going to do jackshit if over the course of a 30 year period you encounter anything bigger more than a miligram of material out there. e = mc^2 right, so 0.1g of material x 0.2c^2 means a kinetic impact is 8,990,000 MJ of energy or 2.1486615679 kilotons of energy released. Let's assume that the ship instead encounters 1mg of material or 0.001g of material. At that velocity, the impact will generate 21T of energy. Based off a quora answer, a WW2 sherman tank does around 390g of explosive charge against a target. 21T is like a million times that at least. 1cm of aluminium is going to do absolutely jack fucking shit in terms of protection. The erosion across long distances from encountering stray hydrogen isn't the risk, but its the fingernail sized stuff that floats out there too. You need waaaaaaaaaaaaay more shielding against 21T of energy conversion on impact.

And whatever that shielding is, needs to be able to handle probably hundreds if not thousands of those; because the journey is going to take you 30 years, and that's 6 light years is really really really REALLY FUCKING FAR when you're only going 0.2c

[Anonymous No.16508485]

>>16508474
>e = mc^2 right, so 0.1g of material x 0.2c^2 means a kinetic impact is 8,990,000 MJ of energy or 2.1486615679 kilotons of energy released.
You're a fucking moron

[Anonymous No.16508491]

>>16508445
The upper figures are for fusion-powered tungsten shaped charges with an ablative pusher plate. Keep in mind these studies were done in the 1960s, so we might be able to do even better now.

>>16508468
You can't reach 0.1c within the solar system, that would be used for interstellar travel. It would take years to accelerate if you have humans on board due to G force limitations. That's just the theoretical upper limit anyway, this can scale down to "small" Earth orbit launches too.
And who says we need a fleet, or that this needs to take place on Earth? Kickstart a space nuclear industry in one 1000-ton launch with a few hundred bombs.

>>16508459
>high cost of atomic bombs
You're forgetting something: Ships can be thousands of tons, even millions. The overall cost per kg to anywhere in the Solar system is pennies.
You're also forgetting that we were producing thousands of warheads per year at the height of the Cold War, and those were weapons-sized. With modern nuclear technology, bombs can be made very small and cheap, especially fission-ignited fusion charges.
>but then a mission would need to be huge
Yes, that's why we haven't done it yet.
But if we did want an actual self-sustatining colony or any kind of industry in space on on the Moon or Mars, Orion is by far the best, maybe even the only way.

It's amazing what you can do with 75,000 Isp. I don't know if y'all play KSP but it's hard to overstate how ludicrous that is. It completely rewrites the rules of space travel.

[Anonymous No.16508495]

>>16508459
>Just invest that into beamed power stations instead. Laser sail, laser thermal, microwave, whatever. High upfront cost, upkeep minimal. As opposed to burning expensive high technology as fuel.
Think in terms of cost per Joule. Fusion is far and away the absolute cheapest source of energy, the problem is we can't use it to generate electricity. But we can use it to propel spacecraft, very efficiently in fact.
If you built a fusion reactor (hypothetical future technology) and used it to power a highly efficient beamed power station (hypothetical future technology), you would still be propelling spacecraft with nuclear energy, but in a way more convoluted and expensive way than the simple way that's already available.

[Anonymous No.16508498]

>>16508176
OMFG...TWO LAUNCHES AND A LANDER THAT DOESN'T EXIST...?!!!

[Anonymous No.16508500]

>>16508452
yikes

[Anonymous No.16508502]

>>16508495
The lasers are solar powered doofus. Existing tech right here. Starship throws up 9999999999 solar panels into SSO, connect them onto structure with two giant fuck off laser batteries, facing opposite directions so station maintains orbit.

[Anonymous No.16508506]

>>16508502
I didn't think I would have to explain this, but here goes. I suggested some hypothetical ultra-efficient ultra-cheap fusion power because that's the best possible theoretical scenario, in order to demonstrate that it STILL can't come close in terms of efficiency or cost. If you substitute that for solar panels that are literally 100x the cost per joule of current fusion warheads, you're not doing yourself any favors. And you can think more like 1000x the cost if you put everything in space.
And at the end of the day, you still end up with a thoroughly inferior propulsion system. The best electric or thermal propulsion can only scratch the thousands in terms of Isp, all while making millinewtons of thrust.

[Anonymous No.16508511]

>>16508506
Erm laser sails can send u to whatever percentage of c u want

[Anonymous No.16508512]

>>16508511
Not on human timescales. Lasers would be great for interstellar probes, and not much else.

[Anonymous No.16508521]

>>16508498
just launch a lot
if you can't launch a lot, then whats the point of doing anything?

[Anonymous No.16508526]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1866393471902453901

[Anonymous No.16508530]

>>16508526
You don't need to post your own tweets retarded attention whore.

[Anonymous No.16508532]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1866382902424138210

[Anonymous No.16508534]

>>16508532
Spaceflight?

[Anonymous No.16508537]

>>16508512
erm, breakthrough starshot sends something at 60,000 gee for 10 minutes. Pretty sure you could fire something at 1 gee for several days.

>but you have to build terrawatt sized solar arrays

ok and?

>but you have to build 100km diameter sails

uh huh

>b-but you have to build hundreds of gigawatts of laser arrays

Cool.

Now you have a system that requires no input other than sunlight and maintenance. Unlike the ongoing endless consumption of expensive ass nuclear bombs.

[Anonymous No.16508543]

>>16508342
>you guys are just joking about new glenn being a flop, right?

Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.16508545]

BO has no plans to launch more often than 12 times a year
their reuse is just a gimmick

[Anonymous No.16508547]

>>16508416
bananas are actually pretty firm unless they are overripe

[Anonymous No.16508552]

>>16508498
starship is real; you've seen it down at boca chica

[Anonymous No.16508558]

nsf: next flight in january then the next after that is in february
so we're already at monthly launches...

[Anonymous No.16508559]

>>16508558
by the end of next year two weeksposting will be Real and True

[Anonymous No.16508608]

>>16508314

[Anonymous No.16508610]

[Anonymous No.16508612]

>>16508263
The scientific method

[Anonymous No.16508617]

What would need to change to make SSTO a viable reality? Laws of physics?

[Anonymous No.16508621]

>>16508187
Wait for the object whose existence is the implication of this graph to be discovered and then go there.

[Anonymous No.16508625]

>>16508608
>>16508610
How did it suddenly get so good?
Can you ask it to make Bezos with his head full of hair?

[Anonymous No.16508631]

>>16508625
they cooked up their own image generator, previously they were using a third party one (Flux)

[Anonymous No.16508632]

>>16508631

[Anonymous No.16508634]

>>16508236
>the V2 paylaod
ziss is gut...serr gut

[Anonymous No.16508635]

>>16507892
these are close relatives but you see the difference in leg quantity

[Anonymous No.16508643]

I wonder if bezos still has his old Honda? He should launch it into space

[Anonymous No.16508644]

New Glenn is NGMI because Blue Origin as a company doesn't have the 'crazy' ethos of SpaceX. I don't seem them breaking even 12 launches a year.

[Anonymous No.16508645]

>>16508617
probably materials science to be able to make the structures associated with generating lift from the atmosphere significantly lighter and resistant to breaking on reentry

[Anonymous No.16508647]

>>16508617
Move to Mars

[Anonymous No.16508648]

>>16508617
RDEs might do the job.

[Anonymous No.16508651]

>>16508617
It's always just materials.
Imagine if Starship replaced its heat shields with some kind of regeneratively cooled skin

[Anonymous No.16508653]

>>16508644
Wow all 16 pixels on full display here

[Anonymous No.16508655]

>>16508617
Earth's gravity I suppose

[Anonymous No.16508662]

>>16508653
*237208 pixels

[Anonymous No.16508667]

Japanese are getting ready for colonization of the Moon
https://youtu.be/rZ7WkQkp8sA

[Anonymous No.16508674]

>>16508667
lunar dust is probably so fucking bad for tank tracks and earthmoving equipment

[Anonymous No.16508680]

has new glen done literally anything yet?

[Anonymous No.16508682]

>>16508680
it took some pretty pictures

[Anonymous No.16508685]

>>16508680
not sure its done even as much as the Old, Original, Glen

[Anonymous No.16508686]

>>16508644
12 launches a year would be a win, much less than that and a reusable rocket isnt economically viable. Its like if you were only doing 2 launches a year the increased cost of reusability doesnt make sense.

[Anonymous No.16508688]

>>16508353
there's no way. How does Musk keep winning? Will he ever open soruce the model?

[Anonymous No.16508693]

>>16508685
literally who?

[Anonymous No.16508697]

>>16508693

[Anonymous No.16508698]

>>16508680
They stood it upright and filled it with cold stuff.

[Anonymous No.16508700]

>laughs in New Armstrong

[Anonymous No.16508701]

>>16508700
this wont be built before jeff is dead

[Anonymous No.16508703]

>>16508700
GAY

[Anonymous No.16508705]

>>16508700

One thing I like about this design is the diameter, Starship's 9m while easy to manufacture makes it harder to scale later on

[Anonymous No.16508706]

>>16508705
nigga what

[Anonymous No.16508709]

>>16508647
Honestly this is it. The major space infrastructure in the solar system including the first interstellar ships will be built from Mars.

[Anonymous No.16508710]

>>16508474
>e = mc^2 right, so 0.1g of material x 0.2c^2
/sfg/ is ______

[Anonymous No.16508711]

remember when Tory said ULA wanted to ramp up launch cadence and now they’re just sitting here doing fuck all

[Anonymous No.16508712]

>>16508706
its going to be a thin and tall rocket like falcon again, v3 is 120m+
making starship dia 12-15m (and shorter) is better for all sorts of reasons: stronger structural support, more aerodynamically stable, clustering even more engines etc etc

[Anonymous No.16508713]

>>16508667

[Anonymous No.16508714]

>>16508502
>Starship throws up 9999999999 solar panels into SSO, connect them onto structure with two giant fuck off laser batteries, facing opposite directions so station maintains orbit.
What you're describing is not an existing technology and your description of it suggests you haven't even thought about the challenges involved.

[Anonymous No.16508717]

>>16508714
He's literally describing the Sol side setup in the Avatar movies lol

[Anonymous No.16508718]

>>16508706
>>16508705
wider boosteris critical because it lowers the terminal velocity. the engine bells get fucked up badly on the present booster because it was designed with a much lower height to width in mind, and the switch to stainless made it heavier so it really should be even wider than they were initially planning

[Anonymous No.16508719]

>>16508537
>argument by credulous appeal to someone else's delusions
amazing

[Anonymous No.16508720]

>>16508717
they couldve done with much sharper shadow contrast and exposure on the ship. its experiencing lighting conditions as if its in an atmopshere. wouldive been epic if large parts were occluded by shadow, apart from theglowing radiators

[Anonymous No.16508721]

>>16508718
cant they just use engine fairings?

[Anonymous No.16508722]

>>16508617
Change economics so that people always do things the most expensive way

[Anonymous No.16508728]

So if raptor is actually reliable enough, could you realistically build an 18m+ Starship? That’s a fuckload of engines [math]\unicode{x1F602}[/math]

[Anonymous No.16508734]

>>16508728
im pretty sure theres some kind of 'golden ratio' involved, the original BFR is probably near the limits of what you can do

[Anonymous No.16508738]

>>16508720
It's the Alpha Centauri system. Three stars and a blue gas giant. There's light sources all around

[Anonymous No.16508739]

>>16508734
>the original BFR is probably near the limits of what you can do
no, original BFR was the minimum viable product to kick off Mars colonization. Present starship is way too small for that but can be a stepping stone to thereal thing and could support a few dozen people on a permenant moon base.

[Anonymous No.16508741]

>>16508738
Pandora is that close? I don't remember them saying where the system was, but then I never finished the whale movie.

[Anonymous No.16508745]

>>16508738
i know, but shading is still way yoo soft as if its experiencing atmospheric scattering. underside could have a low light blue hue but thats about it

[Anonymous No.16508746]

Found a wild berger hater.
What kind exactly of misinformation do these people think berger is spreading anyway. They never say...

[Anonymous No.16508747]

>>16508741
Avatar is so ass it’s unreal

[Anonymous No.16508752]

>>16508746
hes spaceguy5's friend

[Anonymous No.16508754]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/12/intrigue-swirls-as-blue-origin-races-toward-year-end-deadline-for-new-glenn/
>Additionally, Blue Origin needs to fly its New Glenn rocket in order to identify where the vehicle has margin. Sources have indicated that the payload capacity of the current iteration of New Glenn is closer to 25 metric tons than its advertised mass of 45 tons. This is not uncommon for new launch vehicles, and the company will be able to use real-world performance data to refine the vehicle's hardware and software for future flights. Still, those improvements can only be made after a launch occurs, when data is collected and analyzed.

Oh no

[Anonymous No.16508755]

>>16508741
I think it was implied by the length of the trip. No other star system is that close.

[Anonymous No.16508757]

>>16508754
Yeah no way in hell NG was ever going to realistically carry NASA’s Escapade probes to Mars on a maiden launch this year lmao

[Anonymous No.16508758]

>>16508752
Makes sense but I'd still like to hear what kind of misinfo they think berger spreads rather just saying he does.

[Anonymous No.16508760]

>>16508758
lol

[Anonymous No.16508762]

>>16508758
mostly about vehicle capabilities, the ease with which he thinks certain projects can be done (starship expendable version, docking with cryo upper stage in orbit etc)
he's certainly biased but its not really 'misinformation' tho

[Anonymous No.16508764]

>>16508762
>starship expendable version
Why would this one be hard? Especially when spacex already has experience with expendable rockets. Just strip off all the reuse stuff and fly it.
>docking with cryo upper stage in orbit
By cyro do you mean hydromeme? If so I see an easy solution here.

[Anonymous No.16508765]

>>16508746
Holy shit I've pissed this guy off on YouTube before

[Anonymous No.16508766]

>>16508765
Holy fuck, this is the same guy? I remember going through point by point and refuting everything this boomer said lol.

[Anonymous No.16508768]

>>16508765
Holy schizo

[Anonymous No.16508769]

>>16508745
There are likely other moons orbiting the yuuuge gas giant so there's your light sources

[Anonymous No.16508771]

>>16508063
omggg how come truthful gets elon to reply to him(her)?

[Anonymous No.16508772]

>>16508771
it’s a real mystery, anon

[Anonymous No.16508773]

>>16508769
looking at the landing blast, that little green dome is ngmi

[Anonymous No.16508774]

>>16508746
>yellow
What the hell! you can’t call people that that’s so racist.

[Anonymous No.16508786]

>>16508771
>we somehow missed
Don't put that on me dumbass
>they're going to deploy a bunch of bananas in space
Flight 6 already happened, what the fuck is this retard on about?
Why would you post this here?

[Anonymous No.16508787]

>>16508774
>herro
>I rove stalship

[Anonymous No.16508788]

>>16507926
and too fast. it will just give a flyby at 99999999 kmh

[Anonymous No.16508789]

SpaceX will send 100 tons of bananas to space
https://x.com/Chiquita/status/1865072727800902130

[Anonymous No.16508790]

>>16508789
As speculated they will fill the payload bay with tonnes of bananas to prove payload capacity and reentry with a payload

[Anonymous No.16508791]

>>16508789
BANANA

[Anonymous No.16508792]

>>16508791
"LOL" Mind if I save this?

[Anonymous No.16508793]

>>16508789
On starship? wont the bananas have gone off by the next flight? my guess is its going on a falcon heavy to demonstrate its full payload to LEO thats never been reached.

[Anonymous No.16508795]

>>16508789
>flight 6 was just a test to make sure starship could actually carry bananas

[Anonymous No.16508796]

>>16508789
Pro CIA messaging, yet another piece of evidence that the CIA controls SpaceX and Elon. Remember that the CIA helped him found the company.

[Anonymous No.16508798]

>>16508789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_KunwmbAbk

[Anonymous No.16508800]

>6 intentionally made to look like a b
>four leaf clover
elon confirmed for /b/tard

[Anonymous No.16508801]

>>16508789
they should use 100 tons of feathers because its easier

[Anonymous No.16508802]

>>16508792
Actually, I do mind.

[Anonymous No.16508804]

>>16508787
Eric Ricer

[Anonymous No.16508805]

>>16508789
That's absolutely bananas.

[Anonymous No.16508806]

>>16508801
whe?

[Anonymous No.16508808]

>>16508800
lurk more

[Anonymous No.16508809]

>>16508808

[Anonymous No.16508810]

BACK TO MONKEEE

[Anonymous No.16508811]

>>16508789
watch it just be a limited run of SpaceX stickers on the banan

[Anonymous No.16508812]

>>16508811
kek

[Anonymous No.16508814]

>>16508789

[Anonymous No.16508815]

>>16508800

[Anonymous No.16508824]

[Anonymous No.16508825]

>>16508814
its a very slippery slope

[Anonymous No.16508826]

>>16508824
>>16508825
kek

[Anonymous No.16508838]

>>16508754
It fits given the 45 ton figure was several design revisions ago.

[Anonymous No.16508842]

>>16508754
>the Falcon 9 killer can get the same amount to orbit for only 15x the price

[Anonymous No.16508844]

>>16508789

[Anonymous No.16508846]

>>16508814
>starship GNC fails
>starship auto-destruct sequence fails
>starship continues to burn until it is in a 1000 km orbit
>automatically releases bananas
>humanity is trapped in a tomb of frozen hypersonic bananas for thousands of years.

[Anonymous No.16508849]

>>16508814
>>16508844
:o wow hivemind. only posted 49 minutes apart

[Anonymous No.16508851]

>>16508844
we will train monkeys to control spacecraft and orient them into particular orbital inclinations by placing bananas there.

[Anonymous No.16508857]

I'm going to grow bananas in Martian soil

[Anonymous No.16508858]

>>16508754
How long until we see New Glenn with SRB?

[Anonymous No.16508859]

>>16508858
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.16508864]

the martian rainforest is rich in bountiful bananas

[Anonymous No.16508865]

>>16508789
they are sending the neuralink-enhanced monkeys on the next flight, aren't they...

[Anonymous No.16508867]

>>16508864
it will be an important trading commodity with earth

[Anonymous No.16508869]

>>16508754
just like starship

[Anonymous No.16508870]

>>16508865
gotta treat the simps when they do a good job

[Anonymous No.16508871]

>>16508865
Those are Latinos. anon...

[Anonymous No.16508875]

>>16508789
eat-the-bugs-bros it's over...
banana-bros, we gaaan

[Anonymous No.16508876]

>>16508870
The work is only half done until they're smart enough to be wisecracking sidekicks on space adventures.

[Anonymous No.16508878]

>>16508876
>tfw will never have uplifted dolphin gf

[Anonymous No.16508880]

>>16508878

[Anonymous No.16508881]

>>16508858
Oldspace problems require oldspace solutions

[Anonymous No.16508883]

>>16508878
>ywn spend a summer on an alien world fighting a guerilla insurgency against asshole birds with your ayy gf
Brin was way too proud of the "gorilla warfare" pun but I can't fault him for it.

[Anonymous No.16508885]

>>16508789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPhRV7SaE9M
Would the bananas taste any different after being in space

[Anonymous No.16508886]

Typical Martian cuisine
entrée: boca chica beetles en brochette
main course: piping plover à l'Orange, accompanied by a glass of Teslaquila.
dessert: banana cream pie.

[Anonymous No.16508892]

>>16508867
in the lush warm rainforests of mars, you will be able to walk naked with your lover, and pluck genetically engineered banana trees that provide bananas with aphrodisiac and fertility boosting effects. every 3 years, during the month of april, according to a tradition imposed by the third Elon of mars, couples will venture into the wooded areas of mars and ingest these bananas, copulating furiously on the forest floor and creating another generation of little martians. you will hear screams of extacy in the distance and a faint aroma of lustful juices and refreshing fruit will waft by the windows of those who stayed home, enticing them to find a lifelong mate of their own.

[Anonymous No.16508894]

/g/ and /o/ seethe about musk.
are we wrong about spacex, is spacex his only good company, or are they wrong and just suffering eds?

[Anonymous No.16508897]

>>16508892
is giving a handjob haram?

[Anonymous No.16508898]

>>16508894
tesla and solarcity are scams and most people know him for tesla since grug buy car and not care about rock in sky.

[Anonymous No.16508899]

>>16508897
only if the possible ejaculation that arises from it is not inserted into the womb.

[Anonymous No.16508900]

>>16508894
>/g/ suffering from EDS
of fucking course, that board is filled with communists. also, they still believe "spacex's rockets keep exploding", and then post CSS's videos as proof...

[Anonymous No.16508902]

>>16508892
The rainforests will be on Venus. Mars sunlight is too wimpy to support them.

[Anonymous No.16508904]

>>16508792
It's all yours my friend

[Anonymous No.16508909]

>>16508892
sounds and, especially, looks hot

[Anonymous No.16508912]

>>16508902
Mars can't just be planet Arizona, that state sucks.

[Anonymous No.16508915]

>>16508892
This place got really cringe REALLY fast

[Anonymous No.16508917]

>>16508714
>What you're describing is not an existing technology

Pretty sure it is. Can you explain what new technology needs to be developed?

[Anonymous No.16508918]

>>16508915
It's that communist guy that thinks going to Mars will get him laid

[Anonymous No.16508921]

>>16508892
this place got really based really fast

[Anonymous No.16508924]

>>16508892
did you generate that pic with grok?

[Anonymous No.16508925]

>https://x.com/Chiquita/status/1866498746491842725
How many fucking bananas are they sending?

[Anonymous No.16508926]

>>16508925
100 tons of them probably. Seems to be a stunt to show starships payload capacity.

[Anonymous No.16508927]

>>16508925
not that many, remember that starship is only able to put 45 tons into orbit

[Anonymous No.16508929]

>>16508925
le banana for scale joke is so funny!

[Anonymous No.16508930]

>>16508925
>>16508926
i cannot support such conspicuous bananalogical waste

[Anonymous No.16508932]

>>16508927
Actually it's only 30 tons >>16508765

[Anonymous No.16508933]

>>16508926
With how the last couple ships survived (mostly) their water landings there's a pretty good chance we'll see a bunch of bananas floating around the buoy after it comes down.

[Anonymous No.16508937]

>>16508925
Whats in the boxes?

[Anonymous No.16508938]

What is the shelf-life for refrigerated bananas? Could give us a clue towards the NLT date for Flight 7

[Anonymous No.16508939]

>>16508938
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.16508940]

>>16508938
No more than 2 weeks, if they're green right now and kept cool. More like a week and a half really, they could just freeze them though since nobody's gonna be eating them after.

[Anonymous No.16508941]

>>16508937
guess

[Anonymous No.16508944]

>>16508940
>elon MUSK's SpaceX wastes 100 TONS of FOOD in latest space STUNT

[Anonymous No.16508949]

>>16508937
Schpiders

[Anonymous No.16508950]

>>16508944
Who do you call for clearance to land on South Africa?

[Anonymous No.16508951]

>autists thinking they're launching the bananas
This is just the flight 6 collab. SpaceX was able to launch a rocket before this company could manage to make new stickers for their bananas. That's all it is.

[Anonymous No.16508957]

wait, have all mass simulators been bananas?
do bananas have real mass or simulated mass?

[Anonymous No.16508960]

>>16508957
>do bananas have real mass
what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.16508966]

>>16508960
I don't know what you're confused about.

[Anonymous No.16508968]

>>16508960
depends - are they greener or browner banans? how do the spiders effect the equation?

[Anonymous No.16508969]

The bananas are being used to lure King Kong to Starbase. What does that mean?

King Kong vs Mechazilla

[Anonymous No.16508977]

>>16508498
>build entire launch system around rapid reuseability
>people point out that your mission architecture will need rapid reuseability as a "gotcha"

[Anonymous No.16508978]

>>16508968
huh, I don't know that

[Anonymous No.16508979]

>>16508977
In the minds of the bureaucrats, thats "program risk" or something

[Anonymous No.16508980]

>>16508789
2 billion years in the future these space bananas will be responsible for panspermia in a distant star system.

[Anonymous No.16508981]

>>16508552
The astronaut that said this on the NASA stream was definitely referencing the quote, right? Is he a knower?

[Anonymous No.16508983]

>>16508912
There will be more like pre-Columbian Arizona, with agriculture confined to valleys and cities built up the sides.

[Anonymous No.16508984]

>>16508980
courage already predicted this
>Courage and the family encounter the Banana People after the Earth is hit by a meteor, spinning them 1000 years into the future, where this race of intelligent bananas has become the dominant form of life on Earth.
>These bananas inhabit the Banana Republic, which has a police force, and are led by the Top Banana, who wears a cape.
>However, the leader is revealed to be a monkey in disguise that acts on plot next to his uncle King Kong to carry bananas to Bananahalla and then devour them.

[Anonymous No.16508985]

for the love of god keep bananas out the space, i'll lose my mind if the clown slips me on a banana peel one more time

[Anonymous No.16508988]

>>16508985
>put banana in space
>"step" on it
>slip and fall "down"
>repeat as many times as needed to reach mars
It's that easy in banana-ry

[Anonymous No.16508990]

>ugliest city on Mars, 2070

[Anonymous No.16508991]

>>16508951
probably true

[Anonymous No.16508992]

>>16508498
>A LANDER THAT DOESN'T EXIST
Truly unprecendented for NASA to leave development of a lunar module right until the last minute

[Anonymous No.16508993]

>>16508924
nah it's an artist that draws very nice casual nudity in natural settings.

[Anonymous No.16508994]

>>16508892
Enjoy your venusian vacation nigger. Youre also ESL
>extacy

[Anonymous No.16508995]

>>16508990
KINO, mattress-anon, I kneel...

[Anonymous No.16508996]

>>16508938
>spacex gets delayed AGAIN
>ground crew have to clean up the pallets of rotting bananas that had gone bad a week earlier.

[Anonymous No.16508997]

>>16508994
it's the spacex form of ecstacy

[Anonymous No.16508999]

>>16508978
its details like this which make rocket surgery so hard

[Anonymous No.16509000]

>>16508995
I'm trying to spread the vision

[Anonymous No.16509004]

>>16508990
>/sfg/ ACTUALLY thinks this is going to happen

[Anonymous No.16509015]

>>16508994
Martians won't be able to travel to Venus. The change in gravity will be far too large for them to handle.

[Anonymous No.16509016]

>>16508771
truthful is some canuck male

[Anonymous No.16509020]

>>16508796
>Remember that the CIA helped him found the company.
Proof? First I ever heard of it

[Anonymous No.16509022]

>>16508865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q24EDA0AlK4
HIT THE GREEN BUTTON

[Anonymous No.16509024]

>>16508993
Sauce

[Anonymous No.16509028]

>>16509024
>>/sci/image/rYTn4RxcBgcksfUeRZC5Eg
click iqdb

[Anonymous No.16509030]

>>16509028
found it, giwtwm

[Anonymous No.16509032]

>>16509024
bigrbear, there's also some pregnancy stuff so fair warning if you're not into that.

[Anonymous No.16509036]

>>16509032
funny that's more concerning than the tentacles

[Anonymous No.16509037]

https://x.com/peterrhague/status/1866389249072755034

[Anonymous No.16509038]

>>16509037
>Lucianne Walkowicz
>Her Wikipedia article refers to her as "They(singular)"

demons walk among us

[Anonymous No.16509040]

>>16509004
tunnel cuck detected

[Anonymous No.16509041]

>>16509038
these fucking astronomer activist types man I swear, getting really sick of them, they're gonna be a growing problem, will push to restrict our access to space/mining/colonizing via Planetary Protection excuse no doubt, we need to accelerate and get to the point that its impossible to stop before they can suppress us with regulations/space environmentalism

[Anonymous No.16509044]

>>16509037
>Within 20 or 30 years, crewed missions could make giant leaps toward Mars

[Anonymous No.16509045]

>>16509040
cozy

[Anonymous No.16509047]

>>16509044
These people are so resentful they always pick a timeline in which Elon is dead by the first Mars landing

[Anonymous No.16509050]

>>16509044
more like 4 to 6 inshallah
>>16509047
They hate to see him win. So they lie about every win he makes and pretend none of his future wins will come.

[Anonymous No.16509053]

>>16509047
EDS (Elon Dick Sucking)

[Anonymous No.16509055]

>This political faction basically has a single idea which is replaying the racial politics of the 60s with new oppressed categories, and so in this case are literally trying to create a civil rights movement for rocks.

[Anonymous No.16509058]

>>16509032
His artstyle is really nice, incredibly soft looking booba

[Anonymous No.16509059]

>>16509055
gender politics of the 20's
more like

[Anonymous No.16509060]

>>16509040
low effort backrooms rip off

[Anonymous No.16509064]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1866571568266219998?s=19

[Anonymous No.16509065]

>>16509055
Kek

[Anonymous No.16509073]

>>16509064
No fucking way kek we are so back

[Anonymous No.16509074]

>>16509064
I wonder what this means in practice, can Trump waive a bunch of regulation with an executive order?

[Anonymous No.16509075]

>>16509074
Elon buys the FAA

[Anonymous No.16509077]

>>16509064
WE ARE BACK

[Anonymous No.16509078]

>>16509074
It's just theater for retards, by retards.

[Anonymous No.16509079]

>>16509077
fuck yeah

[Anonymous No.16509081]

>>16509077
>>16509064
What /sfg/ thinks this means
>OMG musk can do whatever he wants!
What this actually means
>Oil barons and manufactures can dump their toxic waste into your water as long as they pay enough

[Anonymous No.16509083]

>>16509074
It doesn't mean anything lol, Trump says stuff and then is informed it's legally impossible later. I say this as someone that voted for him. This goes nowhere

[Anonymous No.16509086]

>>16509081
thats based

[Anonymous No.16509088]

99.9% of people that call themselves environmentalists don't actually give a single shit about the environment, they just use it as a cudgel to try to implement their own pet ideologies (usually communism)
you can see this in the anti-nuclear stance they have

[Anonymous No.16509090]

>>16509088
We get it, you don't talk to real people and base your opinions off twitter and reddit.

[Anonymous No.16509091]

>>16509090
He's right, you're either clueless or severely lacking in pattern matching

[Anonymous No.16509092]

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1866546431231992163

[Anonymous No.16509093]

>>16509090
He’s right

[Anonymous No.16509096]

>>16509088
>>16509091
>>16509093
This is true for the people that control the narrative but most normal people care about the environment. This is a very online opinion.

[Anonymous No.16509097]

>>16509091
>>16509093
I know multiple people who work for the EPA, none of them are communists, and every single one is pro nuclear. Also know multiple environmental science grad students, again none are commies and all agree nuclear energy is the future.
But you read a tweet from a commie's basement so you definitely know best.

[Anonymous No.16509098]

>>16509081
this

ofc it's also happening already
RFK might be feeling kind of nervous rn

[Anonymous No.16509099]

>>16509088
99.9% is hyperbole. but yes a majority of them are virtue signaling urban socialites who are completely disconnected from the actual scene of production of their necessities.

[Anonymous No.16509100]

>>16509096
We’re talking about people who self-describe as “environmentalists”
Not the average normie who obviously thinks about climate change and clean water and the elephants and BP oil spills. Obviously most people want a healthy environment.
But people who do it for a career or an extreme hobby (e.g. joining Sierra club) have malicious intent and ulterior motives

[Anonymous No.16509102]

>>16509098
RFK realized he was on the wrong side the first time trump brought out mcdonalds for dinner. There's a reason he's faded into the background.

[Anonymous No.16509107]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1866571416969285954

[Anonymous No.16509108]

>>16508917
You're sure it already exists?! You're sure there are "two giant fuck off laser batteries" connected (somehow lol) to 9,999,999,999 solar panels in sun synchronous orbit right now?
You're delusional or retarded.

Apparently you think this is the same thing as putting a single solar powered laser into orbit somewhere.
Admit it. You're a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.16509112]

>>16509107
that rich coming from the worlds number one beetle slaying methane burner!

[Anonymous No.16509114]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1866529881607246292

[Anonymous No.16509115]

>>16509114
elon "order of magnitude" musk does it again!

[Anonymous No.16509116]

>>16509102
There is no "wrong side" of the election tbqh. Both options were fucking awful, one is just more palatable and didn't bring the entire world to the brink of WW3.

Dems forced him out, that's why he was able to be cajoled into throwing in with the red hats.
The fact that the Don has elevated him to such a prestigious station is the best thing that came out of it, and that is why you see the footsoldiers of the biochemical corpvs forming ranks against his confirmation.
The bulk of the people who aren't deluded or comped are behind his program and want change.

[Anonymous No.16509117]

>>16509116
Spaceflight?

[Anonymous No.16509118]

>>16509107
It's sorta true, look at Al Gore and his predictions in An Inconvenient Truth.

[Anonymous No.16509121]

>>16509107
>the worlds going to end in X years
I've always had an issue with how short term people think climate modeling around Climate Change is. The IPCC tracks it from 1850 and ends its predictions at 2100. Solar, Wind and Nuclear are great and but it's going to take longer than 20-30yrs to wean ourselves off of Oil and Gas (barring some massive breakthrough in fusion) and then you've got the "developing nations" like India and China and huge growing populations in Africa and bullshit terms like 'Net Zero' or 'Carbon Footprint' which will just undo any progress new renewables make.

[Anonymous No.16509125]

>>16509118
didn't Gore predict Florida would be mostly underwater rn
they showed the film to us once in science class 15 years ago for to prime our response to their doomsday cult messaging as if it were authoritative, science says trust the science le experts say etc etc
his predictions simply did not pan out IRC

[Anonymous No.16509130]

>>16509121
Not my problem

[Anonymous No.16509135]

>>16508709
We'll get the 40k future we deserve, ahead of schedule

[Anonymous No.16509136]

>>16508741
At some point yeah that outright say it's Alpha Centauri A

[Anonymous No.16509137]

What Earth could've looked like 4 billion years ago.

[Anonymous No.16509139]

>>16509121
>barring some massive breakthrough in fusion
LENR is already actionable
all you would need to do is sign off on production, form a regulatory body, and people will have their own home element transmutation devices

this makes utilities companies shit themselves in fear, just as Starlink has done to the telecoms
so it's unlikely this tech will ever be released to the public, and will continue to be a military project or (as is tradition for the field) the garage experiments of independent inventors

[Anonymous No.16509140]

>>16508741
>>16508755
>>16509136
Literally in the opening scene they say Alpha Centauri.

[Anonymous No.16509141]

>>16509137
It's just America
Lazy world building

[Anonymous No.16509144]

>>16509081
Why not both? Both are based

[Anonymous No.16509145]

[Anonymous No.16509148]

>>16508149
How many truckloads can Starship lift?

[Anonymous No.16509147]

He's right you know.

[Anonymous No.16509149]

>>16509145
Several of these things are not like the others, which ones!?

[Anonymous No.16509150]

>>16509148
You could fit a semi into a Starship payload bay, don't tell Elon

[Anonymous No.16509152]

>>16509148
inb4 they actually just put in the entire truck itself loaded with bananas into the Starship

[Anonymous No.16509156]

>>16509150
imagine sending the truck with the bananas still inside. would be funny.

[Anonymous No.16509157]

>>16508789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Eyhq-D9yM

[Anonymous No.16509158]

>>16509107
I don't recall Elon speaking so positively about fission before? Is he planning to have the DOGE put the NRC in their place (the trash)?

[Anonymous No.16509159]

>>16509156
fill a tesla with bananas and send that. this is most likely

[Anonymous No.16509160]

>>16509158
didn't he corrected trump to his face when he said nuclear was dangerous

[Anonymous No.16509162]

>>16509158
That's Peter Thiel's main public goal with all this. I imagine they chat

[Anonymous No.16509166]

>>16509121
>and then you've got the "developing nations" like India and China and huge growing populations in Africa and bullshit terms like 'Net Zero' or 'Carbon Footprint' which will just undo any progress new renewables make.
Solar is already cheaper than anything else and will be 100x cheaper soonish and these countries have much higher sunlight hours than any developed country. EVs are cheaper and much lower maintenance (important for retarded countries) than ICE cars. No third world country is going to start industrializing on gas or coal.

[Anonymous No.16509167]

Now available for bullycide on xwitter!
https://x.com/Kyplanet893

[Anonymous No.16509169]

>>16509162
>>16509160
Getting large scale nuke plants built without the regulatory/legal/insurance burdens dragging their profitability into the red would be a huge win for the economy. Cheap energy makes everything better.

[Anonymous No.16509170]

>>16509166
Solar is dogshit for the economy and EVs can never compete with Japanese built ICE cars, which you can easily put hundreds of thousands of miles onto with negligible maintenance.

[Anonymous No.16509187]

>>16509170
>solar bad
wow great argument retard

[Anonymous No.16509193]

>>16509187
The more solar is pushed, the more the economy goes to shit. It's not a coincidence.

[Anonymous No.16509194]

>>16509193
yeah the texas economy is so bad right now

[Anonymous No.16509203]

>solarfag is back
ghastly

[Anonymous No.16509205]

>>16509139
>LENR
Kek they renamed cold fusion after everyone realized it was a scam.

[Anonymous No.16509206]

>>16509137
How would there be that much visible lava without the entire sky being blotted out by ash?

[Anonymous No.16509207]

>>16509193
Solar is shit as grid power but it's a very cheap form of energy. The problem is that it got cheap faster than anyone was expecting, so solar adaptive industry has only just begun to be worked on. There's also the issue of large footprint industrial processes making it through environmental review. Cheap energy is good, so solar is good. The problems lie elsewhere

[Anonymous No.16509208]

>>16509203
oh noooooooooooooo it takes spaaaaaace in spaaaaaaaace if only we had a whole planet to put it on what are we gonna do, it's not like we have space in space fuuuuuuuuuuck I have been obliterated and my arguments have crumbled

[Anonymous No.16509210]

>>16509207
>>Solar is shit as grid power
The economy runs off grid power, ergo solar is shit for the economy. The big problem here is saboteurs masquerading as activists deliberately undermining all other forms of power, burdening them with lawsuits and regulations, to artificially raise costs, which in turn inflicts immense economic damage.

[Anonymous No.16509213]

>>16509208
>I have been obliterated and my arguments have crumbled
So true!

[Anonymous No.16509214]

>>16509205
no they didn't
cold fusion was always a corpo psyop to shut it down
good job consulting wikipedia instead of DARPA

[Anonymous No.16509220]

>>16509214
I googled "LENR" and got a DoD presentation from 2016. This is the summary page.

[Anonymous No.16509221]

>>16509214
>>16509205
>>16509139
Reminder that NASA put out a report with favorable comments about LENR in 2021
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20210016143

[Anonymous No.16509224]

>>16509220
>Interesting anomalous effects exist that are difficult to reproduce and control
coughQIcough

[Anonymous No.16509226]

>>16508617
Some take on the same concept as the now-never-to-be SABRE engine. I think the "viable" part really does require some kind of hybrid approach where you're using free oxidizer to get up to an appreciable velocity and altitude.

[Anonymous No.16509229]

>>16509064
elon said to try grok, so I'm trying grok

[Anonymous No.16509233]

>>16509083
Illegal? If the Supreme Court signs off on it anything is legal

[Anonymous No.16509234]

>>16509220
"The committee is aware of recent positive developments in developing low-energy nuclear reactions (LENR), which produce ultra-clean, low-cost renewable energy that have strong national security implications. For example, according to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), if LENR works it will be a "disruptive technology that could revolutionize energy production and storage." The committee is also aware of the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency's (DARPA) findings that other countries including China and India are moving forward with LENR programs of their own and that Japan has actually created its own investment fund to promote such technology. DIA has also assessed that Japan and Italy are leaders in the field and that Russia, China, Israel, and India are now devoting significant resources to LENR development."

>bro it's all just a scam trust me that's why three of the big five have funded R&D
utilities petrochem industry shill detected
recent means recently eight years ago

[Anonymous No.16509235]

>>16509081
>earther is worried about earth
and the sky is red

[Anonymous No.16509236]

[Anonymous No.16509238]

>>16509234
>introduction: cold fusion would be amazing if it were real, so we will discuss it
>conclusion: it still isn't real
But as you know, governments and corporations only put their money toward things that will definitely pan out, which is why everyone is investing a few million out of their multi-billion-dollar budgets on this world-changing technology

[Anonymous No.16509240]

>>16508491
>tungsten shaped charges
yeah, the optimal casaba howitzer design
are they boosted fission or a two-stage design? boosted fission gets really efficient while still allowing for sensibly sized vehicles
no, it doesn't get much better than that
>>16508722
this was called the New Deal and Cost Plus and it didn't get us SSTOs
>>16508789
>>16508790
you only get ~30 tons
>>16508932
that vibes nicely with a Starship full of pallets
>>16509148
each truck is like... 24 pallets? I forget, it's been a while
I think it's just under two truckloads of bananas for my math to work out
I used to know this

[Anonymous No.16509241]

>>16509210
Isn't grid power like 20% of energy usage?

[Anonymous No.16509242]

>>16509238
>DOE
"funding is part of the Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy (ARPA-E) LENR Exploratory Topic"

>governments and corporations only put their money toward things that will definitely pan out
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.16509243]

>>16509233
Despite what they're saying the supreme court is very neutral right now and they aren't likely to overturn environmental regulations written in blood at the request of the president.

[Anonymous No.16509245]

BILLIONS FOR SLS
>crickets, Musk posting

a few million just for show towards something that could actuallly change regular people's lives and has been in the literature and garage industry for decades
>damage control

every
single
time

[Anonymous No.16509247]

>>16509245
>JEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWSSSSSSS
shut up

[Anonymous No.16509248]

>>16509245
>they're spending money on it so it must be real
The fact that this supposedly world-changing technology that's supposedly very feasible and is supposedly having a revival due to recent supposed breakthroughs is only getting a few million in funding is telling.

[Anonymous No.16509249]

>>16508467
>thorium is not fed from uranium
Kek he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.16509250]

>>16509158
Mars used up all their fissionable material in the second and third great martian wars (science fact)

[Anonymous No.16509251]

>>16509245
Is there a single fucking thing you aren't completely and utterly wrong about? Even rolling a dice would give a better hit rate. What the fuck is wrong with your head?

[Anonymous No.16509253]

>>16509241
No.

[Anonymous No.16509254]

>>16508754
>we don't need test launches
>but we still need to launch it to find out how much it can lift

[Anonymous No.16509256]

>>16509253

[Anonymous No.16509259]

>>16509158
He's always said that we dont need any breakthrough fusion. Just fission alone can power human civilization for thousands of years. That and the fact our sun is a giant fucking fusion engine. We just need to collect the free energy.

[Anonymous No.16509260]

>>16509203
Anyone done the math on the cost/weight of the entire architechture for solar vs nuclear plus the shipping costs (starship)?

[Anonymous No.16509261]

>>16509251
>>16509248
the reason FCC Starlink contract was denied in favor of the telecom giants is because their results can't be reproduced in a controlled setting
oops, despite the billions invested there are still ZERO people hooked up and Starlink is the only option for reliable search and rescue comms in a real emergency (see WNC)

jk it's because industry concerned lobbists pulled some strongs behind the scenes to keep their con going
lmao at how absolutely retarded the shills here are
trust me, Starlink constellation is not world-changing tech

UAPs
fake and gay, there is no such thing and no reason to talk about the means by which they achieve physics defying propulsion
now lets sperg out a little more about "dark matter" instead of fixing our models and DEFINITELY never talk about the UAPs in this general even though it's all over the news and sightings are mainstream now

>>16509247
neat strawman
why is that your automatic go-to anyways
like, mention damage control once and this is what you get

[Anonymous No.16509262]

>>16509261
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.16509266]

>>16508878
Why does she need to be uplifted?

[Anonymous No.16509267]

>>16509254

[Anonymous No.16509269]

>>16509266

[Anonymous No.16509270]

>>16509269
I have some doubts about this

[Anonymous No.16509271]

>>16509262
greentext
>implying

[Anonymous No.16509272]

>>16509261
>90 iq cold fusion shill belives in another recently-renamed classic 1980s scam

[Anonymous No.16509273]

>>16509272
It's the communist just tell him to fuck off

[Anonymous No.16509274]

The First Elon of Mars

[Anonymous No.16509275]

>>16509270
DPJ is real. Why else are dolphins smiling all the time?

[Anonymous No.16509276]

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1866629114964111830

[Anonymous No.16509277]

>>16509272
yes, the only people advocating for consumer level nuclear powered appliances are shills
oh wait, that industry doesn't even exist publically in the first place

???
>profit
this is the average level of familiarity /sfg/ damage control has with the meaning of words like "shill"

[Anonymous No.16509278]

>>16509276
https://x.com/business/status/1866626847737340090

[Anonymous No.16509279]

>>16508754
>We will gather data by test launching expendable Starship
[math]\unicode{x1F600}[/math] [math]\unicode{x1F600}[/math] [math]\unicode{x1F600}[/math] [math]\unicode{x1F600}[/math] [math]\unicode{x1F600}[/math]
>We will gather data during our maiden launch of New Glenn, while still reusing the first stage
[math]\unicode{x1F621}[/math] [math]\unicode{x1F621}[/math] [math]\unicode{x1F621}[/math] [math]\unicode{x1F621}[/math] [math]\unicode{x1F621}[/math]

[Anonymous No.16509280]

>>16509278
the whole article in pic

[Anonymous No.16509281]

>https://aviationweek.com/space/launch-vehicles-propulsion/iran-tests-space-tug-rocket-upper-stage
>Iran’s space agency has for the first time launched the Simorgh rocket equipped with a space tug as an upper stage.
>The rocket placed the payloads—the Saman-1 space tug with associated research payload and the Fakhr-1 communication satellite—into a low-Earth orbit with an apogee of 410 km (255 mi.) and a perigee of 300 km
>The head of the agency, Hassan Salaryieh, confirmed it was the heaviest space payload for Iran, totaling nearly 300 kg (660 lb.). Most of the weight is likely to be from the Saman-1 and its payload, as the Fakhr-1 is a 3U cubesat that weighs less than 10 kg.
>According to Iran’s Ministry of Information and Communications Technology, whose subsidiary Iranian Space Research Center developed Saman-1, the space tug can reach orbits up to 7,000 km.

[Anonymous No.16509284]

>>16509277
I've gotten used to calling useful idiots shills. You're right that I misused the term as you're a useless one.

[Anonymous No.16509285]

>>16509284
Kek

[Anonymous No.16509286]

>>16508789
BANAN
>>16508814
>>16508844
BANANA SYNDROME
>>16508925
All of them.
They really should have saved this for the Starship catch, then they could show off all the bananas after landing. But they might be a bit of a mess if not secured properly.

[Anonymous No.16509287]

>>16509276
Imagine when future xAI/Grok goes BRRRRRRR and starts printing money. His net worth will climb another 100B

[Anonymous No.16509289]

>>16509256
>including oil and gas for heat and transportation
oh what a coincidence, they hate those things too

[Anonymous No.16509290]

>>16509286
BACK TO /UHG/ RIGHT FUCKING NOW PIG

[Anonymous No.16509292]

reminder
>>16359129
>for 4chanx users you can mute all replies from the original post here

>>16509285
>>16509284
see above samefag shill
>checks timestamp
>posts are one minute apart and the next number
every single time

[Anonymous No.16509293]

NASA used to dream so big

[Anonymous No.16509294]

>>16509289
Who is "they"? Oil and gas exist, so do industrial heat and transportation. We're having a technical conversation in the spaceflight general, maybe you've forgotten where you are?

[Anonymous No.16509295]

>>16509292
Nice try faggot and I'm phone posting
We all hate you
This shouldn't be shocking

[Anonymous No.16509296]

>>16509292
I would never samefag one minute apart. That was an organic kek.
>next number
tends to happen in by far the most active thread on the board. Oh look, your post is the first of three consecutive numbers all within a minute.

[Anonymous No.16509297]

This thread is bananas

[Anonymous No.16509298]

>>16509287
we will have people being born, living, and dying all in the asteroid belt before xAI does anything useful

[Anonymous No.16509299]

>>16509296
pure coincidence

[Anonymous No.16509300]

>>16508765
this guy is right.

[Anonymous No.16509301]

>>16509297

[Anonymous No.16509302]

>>16509294
The same "environmentalists" who are sabotaging the economy by crippling the power grid with regulator and legal warfare. Are you so fucking stupid you lost the context of this conversation already?

[Anonymous No.16509303]

>>16509298
I dont see people on asteroids. Grok is already a current event roller on regular basis. Anything in the world thats happening, Grok knows. Power of twitter + grok makes a happy couple. Now that grok also has free limited use, it can easily be used daily.

[Anonymous No.16509304]

[Anonymous No.16509306]

>>16509303
Grok 3 should be coming out this month, has the possibility of being the best LLM for the time being if the scaling laws hold

[Anonymous No.16509308]

oh cool a forced meme and United Fruit Co is the sponsor
neat milhouse general you got there

[Anonymous No.16509309]

>>16509290
seethe harder, mongoloid

[Anonymous No.16509311]

>>16509308
You aren’t whimsical and enjoying the moment
>>16509301
kek

[Anonymous No.16509313]

>>16508459
You're comparing apples to a forest full of orange trees. One single Orion launch could loft more mass than humanity has thus far put into space, and the bombs would cost less than the SLS program so far. One launch. Now if you /want/ to start doing that at the pace we currently do Falcon 9 launches, by all means go ahead.

[Anonymous No.16509314]

>>16509311
lmao
top jej
are we memeing yet
this is a meme, are you winning son

[Anonymous No.16509315]

>>16508789
They gonna smuggle cocaine with starship? Chiquitas were packed full of coke in storage here.

[Anonymous No.16509317]

>>16509308
Leave if you hate it so much

[Anonymous No.16509318]

4chanX user detected

[Anonymous No.16509319]

>>16509308
Your country exists to feed Americans bananas. Get over it.

[Anonymous No.16509321]

total twitter poster death when

[Anonymous No.16509323]

>>16509321
All the space news is on twitter newfag

[Anonymous No.16509324]

>>16509323
no, it isn't
buy an ad

[Anonymous No.16509326]

>>16509324
buy a diaper since you want to piss and shit and cry about this so much.

[Anonymous No.16509327]

>>16509249
thorium is bred into uranium
the feedstock is thorium

[Anonymous No.16509344]

yes, Microsoft is allowed to purchase and reactivate Three Mile Island to run their proprietary AI
no, you are not allowed to live off the grid with LENR and Microsoft will not be held criminally liable in case of catastrophic failure

that's a superweapon, not safe unlike Three Mile Island which has an impeccable track record
the nuclear reactors going supercritical we can build are trusted science
everything else is a scam and not real
LENR definitely IS NOT free from dangerous levels of radiation
also cell phone microwaves are perfectly safe

>George Washington University
NUCAT Energy LLC
LENRIA Corporation
ARPA-E Workshop on Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions
21-22 October 2021

>Production of Other Elements in LENR Experiments

Distributed LENR Generators
Relief for the Power Grid
Easy Disposal of LENR Generators
Production of Clean Water
Possibly Beneficial Waste
Negligible Radioactive Waste
Abundant Hydrogen Fuel

[Anonymous No.16509347]

>>16509344
NOT SPACEFLIGHT FUCK RIGHT OFF

[Anonymous No.16509351]

>>16509279
The difference is that SpaceX makes orbital rockets but Blue Origin makes a discontinued carnival ride.

[Anonymous No.16509357]

>>16509347
LENR has relevant spaceflight applications and you hate why that's easy to prove

[Anonymous No.16509365]

>>16509327
Still need uranium to start the reactor

[Anonymous No.16509368]

will there be martian hicks that listen to bugle call rag while rocking a chair on their enclosed starship lift out on the ice caps, or will that be relegated to belters?

[Anonymous No.16509370]

>>16509365
yeah but it's self-sustaining once it starts

[Anonymous No.16509372]

Chief Scientist
NASA Langley Research Center

>“Energy is really the key to Space
Travel”

•IS IT REAL? - Over 2 decades with over 100 experiments worldwide indicate LENR is real, much greater than Chemical, Transmutations, Minimal radiation
• WHAT IS IT? – Theories indicate is weak interactions/ beta decay, NOT “Fusion”
• IS IT USEFUL? – There are several experimental claims of “useful” quantities of heat, thus far in the watts-to-KWs range

>Summary of Evidence in Expts. For Weak Interaction/ Nuclear Effects

• He4 produced
• Transmutations, which/what dependant upon experiment details
• Energy produced at levels beyond chemical
• Little worrisome radiation, no dead graduate students, No way to overcome Coulomb Barrier via strong force physics

>Summary of Evidence for Weak Force
• Metal hydrides of both H & D
• High H loading required
• Not just 4He being produced
• Range of elemental transmutations
• Energy input needed
• Forcing at resonant hydride frequencies is effective
• Only Sporadic detection of neutron or gamma radiation

Benefits of LENR Technology
• LENR may solve Global Climate and Energy…..
• A 10KW device would solve oil issues, power transportation, provide distributed generation for homes, some industrial applications, desalinate water
• Theory indicates scales from PDAs to GW Power plants, could possibly replace petroleum, natural gas and coal, as well as Fission Nuclear. Possibly less expensive than “conventional “Renewables”

LENR Technology could alsopossibly clean up radioactive waste via transmutation as well as produce elements in short supply [e.g. rare earths].

>NASA Interest[s] in LENR
• Direct and potentially massively/ truly “game- changing” Applications across the board to NASA Mission Areas:
- Science
- Exploration
- Aeronautics

[Anonymous No.16509378]

>>16509372
please stop posting

[Anonymous No.16509379]

btw now that you are unequivocably BTFO for all time by the mere mention of Langley and stop responding

LMAO at the impotent hackneyed seethe of retard shills as I merely post background knowledge about deliberately ignored spaceflight related technologies that I find personally interesting and compelling
deal with it pleb
YWNG spess

[Anonymous No.16509382]

>>16509379
You need to get a life dude

[Anonymous No.16509384]

mad
every response is nothing but damage control

[Anonymous No.16509386]

>>16509384
Consider touch grass

[Anonymous No.16509387]

>>16509368
my fantasy is to play nintendo switch legend of zelda on mars. take a stroll in the desert. come back and chill, drink some mars rum. clean the panels. play switch again in bed. that would be the life

[Anonymous No.16509390]

>>16509387
>Thing, Earth :(
>Thing, Mars :O

[Anonymous No.16509392]

>>16509387
Mars alcohol will be better than Earth alcohol because fermentation happens more efficiently and produces a stronger product in low-G.
Same goes for pickles, miso, and the like.
This same effect has significant implications for human health, as bacterial growth in the gut and elsewhere is positively affected by fermentation.

[Anonymous No.16509397]

mmm regolith blast

[Anonymous No.16509401]

>>16509397
Mmmm cockship

[Anonymous No.16509404]

>>16509397
Just clean up the dust, ez

[Anonymous No.16509407]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeTs0lMbEAAdW9W?format=jpg&name=medium

[Anonymous No.16509412]

>>16509407
Not high enough.

[Anonymous No.16509414]

>>16509407
ORDER OF MAGNITUDE

[Anonymous No.16509415]

Chemists Unravel Reaction Mechanism for Clean Energy Catalyst
>Brookhaven National Laboratory (.gov)
Pulse radiolysis experiments at Brookhaven Lab revealed rapid reactivity that has never been observed before

>May 15, 2023
Chemists at the University of Kansas and the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) Brookhaven National Laboratory have unraveled the entire reaction mechanism for a key class of water-splitting catalysts. Their work was published today in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).

Brookhaven’s Accelerator Center for Energy Research (ACER) is one of only two locations in the United States where this technique can be conducted, thanks to the Lab’s advanced particle accelerator complex.

“When these electrons pass through the chemical solution we’re studying, they ionize the solvent molecules, generating charged species that are intercepted by the catalyst molecules, which rapidly alter in structure. We then use time-resolved spectroscopy tools to monitor the chemical reactivity after this rapid change occurs.”

pentamethylcyclopentadienyl rhodium complex, or Cp*Rh complex, was demonstrating reactivity in an area where molecules are usually stable
precise chemical details will make it significantly easier for scientists to design more efficient, stable, and cost-effective catalysts for producing pure hydrogen

>pure hydrogen
>LENR

[Anonymous No.16509416]

>>16509407
most valuable private company in the world, btw

[Anonymous No.16509417]

damn..

[Anonymous No.16509418]

>SpaceX valuation Dec 2025- $500 Billion
>SpaceX valuation Dec 2026- $900 Billion
>SpaceX valuation Dec 2027 (post Mars landing) - $1 Trillion

[Anonymous No.16509422]

>>16509417
>>>/toy/

[Anonymous No.16509423]

>>16509407
Ermmmm no. I dont think so.

[Anonymous No.16509424]

>>16509407
so, in a hypothetical scenario, it would easily hit a 2 or 3-trillion-USD valuation overnight if it were to go public today, right? I know it won't happen, and I don't want it to go through an IPO, just saying

[Anonymous No.16509425]

finance shills >>>/biz/
real science posted ITT

[Anonymous No.16509426]

>>16509423
why is his hair always so unkempt, he looks like a bum

[Anonymous No.16509429]

>>16509426
He IS a bum.

[Anonymous No.16509430]

>>16509384
You are sick in the head

[Anonymous No.16509431]

>>16509424
It's possible. I'd put my retirement into it for sure, but maybe not everyone knows where this is headed

[Anonymous No.16509433]

>>16508314
>grok

[Anonymous No.16509434]

>>16509433
>"Answer yes or now"
>Quizzing AI in general

[Anonymous No.16509435]

go back to your board

[Anonymous No.16509436]

Sad that even /sfg/ has JIDF presence

[Anonymous No.16509443]

>>16509436
>JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS
>JEWS ARE WHY I CANT TALK TO WOMEN
>JEWS ARE WHY I AM A SAD LONELY SACK OF SHIT
holy shit please shut the fuck up ywngts >>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.16509444]

>>16509433
Maybe don't be racist?

[Anonymous No.16509445]

>>16509444

[Anonymous No.16509446]

>>16509443
>starts frothing at the mouth

[Anonymous No.16509448]

The only "people" I hate are urfers. You might say I'm planetist.

[Anonymous No.16509450]

>>16509445
Ai just has a better world model than you. superintelligence, like elon, make seemingly illogical decisions and actions, but it always wins in the end. whites and jews are not equal.

[Anonymous No.16509451]

>>16509450
Part of the chosen people tribe huh?

[Anonymous No.16509461]

So the next launch is going to be banama themed?

[Anonymous No.16509464]

>>16509461
most probably.
First deployed payload should be a Tesla Semi, though. Maybe for ITF-9 or 10?

[Anonymous No.16509466]

>>16509397
>/sfg/ anons will never be this good at art
sad!

[Anonymous No.16509470]

>>16509466
We had that one guy that made the moon city

[Anonymous No.16509471]

>>16509466
hey, I'm trying :(

[Anonymous No.16509474]

>>16508754
>25 metric tons
>literally only 7 tonnes more than reusable Falcon 9 and like 5 tonnes less than all reusable boosters Falcon Heavy
lmao

[Anonymous No.16509475]

>>16509471
behold,
/sfg/'s masterpiece!

[Anonymous No.16509478]

>>16509474
there's no way New Glenn is that big lmao

[Anonymous No.16509481]

>>16509478
It is

[Anonymous No.16509485]

A thousand nuclear-powered tunnel boring machines. Underground habitats conservatively 600 meters tall and 400 meters wide with a parabolic cross-section and arbitrary length.

[Anonymous No.16509486]

>>16509417
>https://x.com/eugeneawi/status/1853792057304740329
Eugene's is better

[Anonymous No.16509487]

>>16509474
>>16509481
How the fuck is this possible? Is methalox just that fucking awful as a booster stage fuel?

[Anonymous No.16509489]

>>16509415
sweet

[Anonymous No.16509490]

>>16509487
Hydrolox second stage is more to blame.

[Anonymous No.16509491]

>>16509490
Isn't hydromeme suppose to be the best upper stage fuel?

[Anonymous No.16509493]

>>16509487
Be-4 is actually really shit, that's the answer

[Anonymous No.16509494]

>>16509466
it's a cool picture but I don't personally predict the eye of terror appearing in the next fifty years or so like this

[Anonymous No.16509495]

>>16509493
why

[Anonymous No.16509498]

>>16509495
Terrible thrust/nozzle area. Brutally mogged by Raptor. First stage is a gutless piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.16509497]

>>16509493
Wants the point of making it ORSC if you're going to make it underperform

[Anonymous No.16509499]

>>16509495
To expand

>>16509481
>2x the thrust of a Falcon 9
>4x as much fuel weight as a Falcon 9

Yeah

[Anonymous No.16509500]

>>16509491
Some anon smarter than me had explain with details why months ago. I think he said the velocity at staging is too low, the second stage is too big and too heavy, and it needs a third stage that doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.16509501]

>>16509499
The propellent comparison is not about fuel weight but about volume. New Glenn would be way heavier if it used RP-1 like Falcon 9.

[Anonymous No.16509504]

>>16509498
>Terrible thrust/nozzle area. Brutally mogged by Raptor.
seems irrelevant. If it's reliable, has good ISP and makes rogget go up then it's a good engine

[Anonymous No.16509509]

>>16509504
Not when can replace it with an existing engine that would be able to double its payload capacity lmao.

[Anonymous No.16509510]

>>16509509
>Not when can replace it with an existing engine
and what engine would that be?

[Anonymous No.16509513]

>>16509510
It starts with the letter "R" and ends with "aptor"

[Anonymous No.16509517]

>>16509504
You are tarded

[Anonymous No.16509525]

>>16509495
They don't push it too hard. Supposedly for reuse

[Anonymous No.16509528]

Ive been busy with finals today so couldnt post this but here I am

https://x.com/vast/status/1866573393958731986

>Haven-1’s primary structure qualification article has officially completed its final weld. The article is now ready for painting, window, and hatch integration before being shipped for pressure and load testing at our Mojave, CA test site.
PROGRESS!!

[Anonymous No.16509529]

Also Ax4 crew got announced.

[Anonymous No.16509532]

>>16509513
why would they buy a competitors engine? Use your head

[Anonymous No.16509533]

>>16509532
Why can't they just make their own engine competitive?

[Anonymous No.16509536]

>>16509533
If it's adequate for their mission what's the problem? It's like saying a 4 cylinder engine in a Civic is bad just because it's not a v8. It's engine is suited for their application

[Anonymous No.16509542]

>>16509536
You have been added to the no mars list

[Anonymous No.16509550]

>>16509542
you have been added to the no argument list

[Anonymous No.16509553]

oh oh, I wanna be in a list, too

[Anonymous No.16509558]

Since Gateway is useless in NRHO, especially if SLS is kill, would it make sense for NASA to sell the hardware that's already been made and the contracts to one of the commercial station companies or have them operate it as an ISS replacement or whatever and instead focus on a Moon base?

[Anonymous No.16509567]

add that guy to the ignore list

[Anonymous No.16509571]

fuck you

[Anonymous No.16509589]

>>16509558
No, it makes sense to keep the HALO module but swap out the ion thrusters and prop tanks on the PPE module for QI aether drives and add an 8-node and a cockpit to the front so it can become an inner-system cruiser.

[Anonymous No.16509592]

>>16509571
good night, anon

[Anonymous No.16509596]

https://x.com/herbertong/status/1866559179949056275

Musk personally solving Xai supercomputer buildout problems

[Anonymous No.16509599]

>>16509558
I still think if EUS ever happens the whole thing will get dragged to a high moon orbit and we'll pretend the NRHO was a great joke the Euros told us

[Anonymous No.16509601]

>>16509596
sigh
elon "order of magnitude" musk does it again

[Anonymous No.16509602]

>>16509596
lmao praising Elon for doing a web search and turning up Clos architecture

I wonder if they picked glass or copper

[Anonymous No.16509604]

>>16509532
Retard, I was disputing your claim it was a good engine.

[Anonymous No.16509605]

>>16509602
Sounded way more than that if this was supposedly an unsolved problem before xAI actually implemented the 100k gpu cluster

[Anonymous No.16509606]

https://x.com/shaunmmaguire/status/1866651686993006651

The information apparently wrote an article about SpaceX valuation

[Anonymous No.16509616]

>>16509604
I argue that if the engine fulfills the mission parameters then it is a good engine. Can you make an argument as to why that premise is wrong?

[Anonymous No.16509621]

>>16509616
When you have to scale back the mission parameters because your engine is so shit it's a faulty premise.

[Anonymous No.16509626]

>>16509621
non sequitur

[Anonymous No.16509629]

>>16509616
the mission parameters can be anything and by that logic any engine can be good
doesn't make sense

[Anonymous No.16509633]

>>16509629
Of course it makes sense. If for mission A engine X fulfills all requirements it's a good engine. If for mission B engine X does not fulfill the requirements then it's a bad engine. You seem to have some universal view of engines which doesn't make any sense considering you don't think that way when you buy things unless you're a billionaire

[Anonymous No.16509634]

>>16509626
>lost 20 tonnes of payload capacity because of the underperforming engines
>fulfills the mission parameters

[Anonymous No.16509637]

>>16509634
>if the engine fulfills the mission parameters

[Anonymous No.16509639]

>>16509637
>didn't do that
>had to change the mission parameters because of it
You're not very bright.

[Anonymous No.16509642]

>>16509639
yes then it's a bad engine then. I haven't changed my belief

[Anonymous No.16509651]

>>16509397
>Starship with Shuttle colour scheme

[Anonymous No.16509666]

>>16509589
>QI aether drives

[Anonymous No.16509670]

>>16509494
At the rate the tranny apocalypse is proceeding I wouldn't be surprised
You know what happened to the eldar

[Anonymous No.16509689]

>>16509571
>my daddy will hear about thi-ack
kys, seriously, not a penny.

[Anonymous No.16509690]

>>16509466
>39 star flag
>earth's continents are all fucked up
nice try, AI

[Anonymous No.16509695]

Raptor 3 is advanced wizardry. Does Elon have a ring of power or something?

[Anonymous No.16509703]

what will startships sunlight and meteorite shield look like?

[Anonymous No.16509704]

>>16509433
>8 billion deaths
What kind of normiefag trash is this?

[Anonymous No.16509706]

>>16509704
Oh wait, so it's AI-slop? I thought GNN was some small-time leftoid news network.

[Anonymous No.16509714]

>>16509167
uhhhhhh
is kyplanet actually based?

[Anonymous No.16509718]

>>16509690
the continents aren't fucked up, it's north and south america upside down
if you think this is AI you have brain problems

[Anonymous No.16509728]

>>16509714
He's so close, I don't know what his deal is. I'm guessing he's just young and will come around when he graduates highschool and has to get a real job

[Anonymous No.16509733]

>>16508765
>>16508789
this shit makes me think that the actual purpose of Starship isn't spaceflight, it's fast cargo on earth (incl military, of course) and launching tons of sats to LEO

[Anonymous No.16509740]

>>16509733
SS is aspirationally a mars-first rocket, but for practical reasons it’s a starlink-first rocket.
E2E is a fun little hypothetical byproduct of the design and if you think it’s a main goal or purpose of the program then you’re probably taking rides on the short bus

[Anonymous No.16509750]

>>16509733
It's a crewed Mars ascent and return vehicle, which means it's extremely overpowered for everything else.
Ultimately it was built for Mars, but in the meantime the cost and cadence is useful for a LEO constellation (capital) and military E2E (state protection).
Elon really is a genius.

[Anonymous No.16509752]

>>16509733
Also those crates have special stickers, they aren't going on a rocket

[Anonymous No.16509760]

>>16509494
thats supposed to be mars i guess

[Anonymous No.16509762]

>>16509166
>No third world country is going to start industrializing on Fossil fuel
They absolutely will, the Paris Agreement allows them to do so without any condemnation and COP is turning into a way to extort money from the west so the 3rd world doesn't have to pay for its' own energy infrastructure

[Anonymous No.16509764]

>>16509690
so what prompt did they use then?

[Anonymous No.16509767]

>>16509606
The dis-information. They've been writing hit pieces on Musk for a while now

[Anonymous No.16509770]

>>16508765
you guys are not open to information, but the guy actually makes many interesting and true points. I trust Elon Musk so I think they will be solved, but without his magic factor Starship is fucked.

[Anonymous No.16509771]

>>16509444

[Anonymous No.16509772]

>>16509770
What interesting and true points does he make exactly?

[Anonymous No.16509777]

>>16509772
fuck you chud

[Anonymous No.16509778]

>>16509777
Wasted trips

[Anonymous No.16509779]

>>16509733
thats bananas

[Anonymous No.16509781]

>>16509778
gets don’t matter when you generate like 95% of traffic, lurk more

[Anonymous No.16509783]

https://spacenews.com/geomagnetic-storms-cause-mass-migrations-of-satellites/

>The first problem was the low accuracy of forecasts of the timing, magnitude and duration of the storm. “As a result of this low skill in our forecasts, SpaceX saw 20 kilometers of position error in their one-day computations” of the orbits of Starlink satellites, he said. “If we’re uncertain in where our spacecraft are by 20 kilometers, then you can throw collision avoidance out the window.”

>Those mass maneuvers further complicate collision avoidance efforts already hampered by the position errors from the storm. “Then we have no idea when a collision is going to happen. We lose that capability for days at a time,” he said.

Bad solar weather forecast does seem to be the largest risk for orbital collisions.

[Anonymous No.16509785]

>>16509781
It matters when I don't get them

[Anonymous No.16509790]

Insane how Butch and Suni are STILL in space for what was supposed to be a quick test mission lol

[Anonymous No.16509791]

>>16509790
>this is why we test

[Anonymous No.16509803]

>>16509781
Please consider numbers of the form:
a*10^n+b*(10^n - 1)/9
where a,b,n are non-negative integers, n >= 2 and b <= 9
It's not in the OEIS

[Anonymous No.16509807]

>Petit proposed that this second moon had an elliptical orbit, a period of 2 hours 44 minutes, with 3,570 km (2,220 mi) apogee and 11.4 km (7.1 mi) perigee.[8] This claim was soon dismissed by his peers.[9] The 11.4 km (37,000 ft) perigee is similar to the cruising altitude of most modern airliners, and within Earth's atmosphere. Petit published another paper on his 1846 observations in 1861, basing the second moon's existence on perturbations in movements of the actual Moon
wtf I'm a Petit's moon truther now

[Anonymous No.16509808]

>>16509807

[Anonymous No.16509809]

>>16509807
funny how nobody has observed it since

[Anonymous No.16509814]

>>16509809
>having a high opinion of astroonomers
go back

[Anonymous No.16509817]

>>16509814
it doesn't take much of an astronomer to notice a moon orbiting at 37000 ft.

[Anonymous No.16509821]

>>16509817
it would be moving so fast your eye couldn't catch it

[Anonymous No.16509822]

>>16509276
It was just 330 billion like last week, where did the extra 100 billion come from

[Anonymous No.16509825]

>>16509822
A change to a friendlier administration

[Anonymous No.16509826]

>>16509821
skill issue

[Anonymous No.16509829]

>>16509733
brilliant pebbles schizo detected

[Anonymous No.16509830]

>>16509822
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1866789126814699824

probably the massive growth in Starlink and the de-risking of Starship (and its effect on Staralink for instance)
they also got the D2C online recently

[Anonymous No.16509839]

>>16509790
the west is falling

[Anonymous No.16509840]

>>16509158
Elon has always been favorable to fission from a technical standpoint but acknowledged that regulations hold it back too much to make it an easy go to. He's openly said he'd love to work with nuclear if it weren't for the regulations.
>>16509166
>Solar is already cheaper than anything else
Solar is only cheaper because of the "everything else." You can't just extrapolate current trends and conclude solar will magically solve energy by the end of the decade. Solar can't be the foundation of an energy grid without massive energy storage infrastructure or getting a bunch of countries to work together on a massive interconnected global energy network. Neither of which are factored into how "cheap" solar would be for a solar grid.

[Anonymous No.16509844]

>>16509825
That was a month ago (or a month from now) though

[Anonymous No.16509846]

>>16509844
Priced in

[Anonymous No.16509849]

>>16509830
Everyone is gonna want a piece of the pie soon enough. Even normalfag investors. Pray it never goes fully public and Elon keeps his voting majority control over the company.

[Anonymous No.16509851]

>>16509259
We need fusion to exploit the outer system for ultra high Isp thrusters. We need to be redirecting thousands of comets into Venus.

[Anonymous No.16509852]

>>16509666

[Anonymous No.16509853]

>>16509851
Fission engine can work out fine to explore the galaxy. Fusion is nice, but its not needed.

[Anonymous No.16509854]

https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1866877896914243814

S33 static fire soon, we gaan

[Anonymous No.16509857]

>>16509852
Can we see inside the qi drives box?

[Anonymous No.16509858]

>>16509857
trade sekrets ;)

[Anonymous No.16509860]

>>16509857
It’s full of tape

[Anonymous No.16509861]

>The first air crash investigation on another world has concluded that the crash of the Ingenuity helicopter on Mars was caused by the inability of the navigation system to track the relatively featureless terrain.
This resulted in a touchdown with too much lateral velocity, applying a hard banding moment to the rotor blades causing them to snap.

Underpaid JPL code monkeys caused Ingenuity crash

https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1866879208745734583

[Anonymous No.16509862]

https://x.com/lmspace/status/1866875606907974099

[Anonymous No.16509863]

>>16509861
RIP Ingenuity

[Anonymous No.16509865]

>>16509861
>>16509863
Apparently it’s still in communication with Perseverance, which is interesting

[Anonymous No.16509869]

>>16509862
>mars
>& beyond

[Anonymous No.16509870]

>>16509862
Trying real hard to convince trump to not cancel it.

[Anonymous No.16509873]

>>16509869
there are boomers at NASA who deadass believe multiple SLSs + Orion is the future for the next 100+ years

[Anonymous No.16509882]

https://x.com/BeyondGravity_S/status/1866766455116795998
>Our H3 payload fairing and payload support structure are on the move! After arriving safely in Basel, the cargo is now heading to Rotterdam, Kobe, and finally Tanegashima, Japan.

https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1866772091170857439
>This is probably the customized wide fairing for the “H3-24W” variant to be used for HTV-X launches.

[Anonymous No.16509883]

>>16509873
To be fair, if you just want to send out a probe to flyby a Jupiter moon once every few years, SLS isn't that bad

[Anonymous No.16509885]

>>16509883
Yes it is. That’s why the probe that’s currently headed to jupiter’s moon didn’t get there on sls

[Anonymous No.16509887]

>>16509882
honestly what even is the point of HTV-X? Yeah jaxa was able to drive down the cost for both it and H3, but why do they even care?
It’s not like japan has their own station that they wish to resupply. Maybe they figure it’ll get them an astronaut moon landing with NASA I guess–but it’s so silly when other things like Dragon XL and Starship exist for cargo to gateway

[Anonymous No.16509893]

>>16509882
Thought this was assad's death press for a second lmao

[Anonymous No.16509902]

>>16509861
He didn't fly so good

[Anonymous No.16509903]

>>16509902
They expect one of us in the wreckage, brother

[Anonymous No.16509904]

>>16509853
We already unlocked fusion spacecraft propulsion >>16508434

[Anonymous No.16509906]

>>16509903
Have we started the fire?

[Anonymous No.16509910]

>>16509887
Think about it, anon.

[Anonymous No.16509925]

[Anonymous No.16509927]

>>16509925
Mk1 if it was actually cool

[Anonymous No.16509928]

No one wants to see your AI slop.

[Anonymous No.16509929]

>>16509616
define the mission parameter

[Anonymous No.16509930]

>>16509925
where did u get this picture from

[Anonymous No.16509931]

>>16509925
It's gonna tip over.

[Anonymous No.16509933]

>>16509822
>where did the extra 100 billion come from

His other companies.

[Anonymous No.16509934]

>>16509931
reminder this happened because a lazy troon designed the original high bay pad and was gloating about it on discord a few days before SN9 tipped

[Anonymous No.16509937]

>>16509930
some rando post on twitter

[Anonymous No.16509939]

>>16509925
what rocket is this?

[Anonymous No.16509940]

Does anyone make their own rockets? I am getting into it. Going to order a starter kit to build and do a few low power launches. Then I'll slowly make bigger and bigger rockets.

[Anonymous No.16509941]

>>16509940
I had a bunch of Estes rocket motors a couple years ago and slapped together some basic rockets to fly them, I just used the cardboard tube from rolls of tinfoil as the body and cut some rigid cardboard fins. The only one I recovered was the one that spun around 3 times midair before careening into the lake and sputtering out.

[Anonymous No.16509942]

>>16509940

[Anonymous No.16509943]

>>16509925
Speaking of Grok. Apparently you can post pornography on X without repercussion (i.e. shadow ban) if you post it as a question to Grok.

[Anonymous No.16509944]

>>16509943
Elon himself is telling people to use grok instead of going to doctors. You can just do whatever you want.

[Anonymous No.16509945]

>>16509943
wait, grok can do nsfw?

[Anonymous No.16509950]

>>16509943
The amount of unfiltered loli in my "for you" makes me believe there is no shadow ban

[Anonymous No.16509952]

>>16509939
Grok

[Anonymous No.16509953]

>>16509950
they are all 800 year old demons

[Anonymous No.16509956]

>>16509944
I think AI has huge potential for the medical field, but telling people to use an LLM instead of going to a doctor is legitimately fucked up

[Anonymous No.16509959]

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1866923595928310231
>"In the next few weeks, you're going to see a few more," NASA Administrator Nelson says in opening remarks after noting Austria is the 50th country to sign the Accords.

Meanwhile, the ILRS is only made up of two countries that don't like cooperating with each other and eleven hangers on that can't contribute anything of real significance

[Anonymous No.16509963]

>>16509952
Youre a fucking tool for Elon yknow that?

[Anonymous No.16509964]

>>16509959
neither the Artemis Accords nor ILRS have anything to do with global cooperation, they're both just about picking sides. US and China are perfectly happy to do it all alone.

[Anonymous No.16509965]

In the light of CEO's being killed, I hope Bezos is next. I don't like blue origin, it's a pathetic company and the rockets look like dilators. It's clearly an investment to ensure they can mine le heckin' asteroids too! I hope Musk shuts it down.

[Anonymous No.16509966]

>>16509965
Bezos isn’t Blue’s CEO. Limp is

[Anonymous No.16509968]

>>16509861
>ingenuity crashed
wtf was this today or something?

[Anonymous No.16509969]

>>16509965
reported to the cia

[Anonymous No.16509971]

>>16509968
A couple months ago anon.

[Anonymous No.16509972]

>>16509869
>he doesnt know artemis is just the lunar part of the larger program
fun fact, gateway is supposed to be the home port of a large interplanetary manned spacecraft

[Anonymous No.16509973]

>>16509790
You can blame SpaceX for not wanting to use the originally designed 7 passenger manned dragon like they promised

[Anonymous No.16509975]

>>16509969
Ah shit they're going to get me for hoping? I forgot thought crimes were a thing. I'm in the UK anyway, and probably could be arrested for a thought crime. Big brother can suck my dick.

[Anonymous No.16509978]

>>16509861
>first air crash investigation on another world
First FAA isekai

[Anonymous No.16509979]

Threadly reminder that Titan is shitty

[Anonymous No.16509981]

>>16509931
I'm glad SpaceX has grown out of using Mexican labor

[Anonymous No.16509983]

>>16509979
Reminder that anti-Titancucks hate exploration past the asteroid belt and should be ignored

[Anonymous No.16509988]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Geglf8OaEAQe4ra?format=jpg&name=large

[Anonymous No.16509992]

>>16509861
>The first air crash investigation on another world has concluded that the crash of the Ingenuity helicopter on Mars was caused by the inability of the navigation system to track the relatively featureless terrain. This resulted in a touchdown with too much lateral velocity
Wouldn't an inertial measurement unit be sufficient to avoid this?

[Anonymous No.16509995]

>>16509979
most planets are shitty, it’s our job to make them less so.

[Anonymous No.16509996]

2005 USAF paper on space nuclear reactors

[Anonymous No.16509997]

>>16509995
This includes India.

[Anonymous No.16509999]

>>16509863
>>16509861

I still struggle to understand how aerodynamic flight is even possible in an atmosphere that atrociously thin.

[Anonymous No.16510001]

>>16509988
long fairing is long

[Anonymous No.16510002]

>>16509997
The American southwest needs to be terraformed as well, Phoenix is uninhabitable outside of climate-controlled habitats.
>>16509999
Not enough air? Just spin the blades faster and make them bigger, it werks.

[Anonymous No.16510003]

>>16509965
How did this CEO thing become so cringe so fast? Also bezos isn't even the CEO.

[Anonymous No.16510004]

[Anonymous No.16510005]

>>16510002
>The American southwest needs to be terraformed as well, Phoenix is uninhabitable outside of climate-controlled habitats.
This is why we need to take territory from M*xico so we can run a giant supervillain pipe from the ocean back up to Maricopa County and bulk desalinate/purify it for use. The leftover glop can be compressed into bricks and used to build prisons for flat earthers.

[Anonymous No.16510007]

>>16509963

[Anonymous No.16510008]

>>16510005
and we should do the same thing to titan

[Anonymous No.16510010]

>>16510008
Imprison flat Earthers on Titan? They're not worth the delta-V.

[Anonymous No.16510012]

>>16509999
ive seen the math worked through. in the end it just comes down to having more and larger blades moving fast.the lower gravity helps of course.
it was tested in a vacuum chamber of course. i think the videos are around.

[Anonymous No.16510017]

>>16509950
What accounts are you seeing this stuff from, so that I know who to block?

[Anonymous No.16510020]

>>16509973
SpaceX delivered exactly as promised. It was NASA that imposed the four person limit due to some vague concerns about potential G forces being too high for their desired future DEI astronaut corps. A four person limitation was to be imposed on Starliner as well.

[Anonymous No.16510026]

[Anonymous No.16510028]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw_UapRCW8w

NEW EAGER KINO DROPPED

[Anonymous No.16510029]

>Jared Isaacman speaking at the Spacepower conference in Orlando, when asked about his future Polaris missions with SpaceX: "The future of the Polaris program is a little bit of a question mark at the moment. It may wind up on hold for a moment."

[Anonymous No.16510030]

>>16510028
Thanks Eager
Really enjoy your content!

[Anonymous No.16510031]

>>16510029
:(

[Anonymous No.16510033]

Eager? More like neager! HA
am I right boys?

[Anonymous No.16510034]

>>16510029
well, he's about to get very busy

[Anonymous No.16510036]

>>16510029
well obviously

>>16510031
kys

[Anonymous No.16510039]

trannys will never set foot on mars

[Anonymous No.16510044]

>>16510039
>implying he will go to mars

[Anonymous No.16510045]

>>16509931
*tips starship*

[Anonymous No.16510047]

https://x.com/LMSpace/status/1866943538715312444
>Lucy in the sky! Tomorrow at 11:15 pm EST, NASA's Lucy spacecraft will perform its 2nd Earth gravity assist, flying ~220 miles above the Pacific Ocean at 9 miles per second! Designed, built & flown by us, Lucy is on a 12-year journey to explore the Trojan asteroids.

[Anonymous No.16510049]

Funding secured.

[Anonymous No.16510054]

>>16510028
Thank you, King.

[Anonymous No.16510056]

>>16510047
>miles

[Anonymous No.16510059]

>>16509862
>6 months+ trapped inside Orion
I'd rather space myself than suffer that

[Anonymous No.16510069]

>>16509992
no, IMUs suck ass
you need a GPS

[Anonymous No.16510073]

>>16510059
That's a perfectly reasonable amount of time to spend in a place that size

[Anonymous No.16510074]

>>16510012
>>16510002
is it possible that the flight effect comes as a result of that very high rate of spin rather than the atmospheric lift generated by the blades

sufficient gyroscopic force and manipulation of precession causing deflection through conservation of angular momentum as a means of flight supposing a light enough frame, if you will
and there would be reasons involving sensitivity why they would attribute this effect to lift as traditionally understood

>a gyroscope has the ability to lift a fulcrum. This is due to the principle of conservation of angular momentum
>the spinning motion of the gyroscope creates a force that acts in the opposite direction of gravity, allowing it to lift off the ground

[Anonymous No.16510076]

>>16510074
no
t. knower

[Anonymous No.16510077]

>>16509261
Regulation is a pretty flawed concept.
It’s not just guilty until proven innocent, it’s guilty until “certified” innocent.
So in many cases it will get corrupted to punish the innocent and reward the (guilty, but not officially guilty) insiders.

Really the better way of doing things would just be a strict enforcement of liability when damages are incurred with no exceptions or watering down of the penalties.
But that would be hard to enforce and even harder to hide bias and corruption under, so it’s passed up on.

[Anonymous No.16510079]

>>16510074
not seen any hint of that
https://rotorcraft.arc.nasa.gov/Publications/files/Cuyler_Dull_10-Jan-22_06-00-24.pdf

[Anonymous No.16510081]

Once I've made my fortune from selling custom dilators, I'm also going to join the space race.

[Anonymous No.16510084]

>>16510074
This guy doesn't know what a fulcrum is.

[Anonymous No.16510086]

>>16510077
>Regulation is a pretty flawed concept.
sure, you got a point there
it's been a problem before, still is
definitely favors the entrenched industry who can afford to purchase the means to overcome these restrictions rather than innovators

but LENR technologies and appliances being made available to the average consumer has WAY too much room for abuse and fuckups
there would need to be a regulatory body responsible for enforcing the application and inspection of governors, like those installed in motor vehicles to control top speed
you know, so people don't end up melting their windows by accident

>>16510076
pls explain, I am not convinced atmospheric lift is sufficient to explain this Martian helo drone activity
we already know spinning fast and stable enough can be used to resist the force of gravity

[Anonymous No.16510089]

>>16510086
>helicopters are fake
>we need to regulate cold fusion
you should kill yourself, Dilbert

[Anonymous No.16510090]

>>16510086

[Anonymous No.16510091]

>>16510089
were you under the impression that helicopters don't need gyroscopes, or that Ingenuity doesn't have one

>>16510090
cool webm bro, thanks
I'm not saying Ingenuity can't "fly" in a vacuum, or that it didn't do the same thing on Mars.
I am disputing the public *explanation* of it's abilities and suggesting there is a more sensitive alternative.

[Anonymous No.16510093]

>>16510084
It's the communist, he doesn't know anything about anything

[Anonymous No.16510094]

>>16510091
You can watch the on-earth tests, doesn't seem like anything else is going on to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAQxNd3uBN0

[Anonymous No.16510095]

>>16510091
I was under the impression that helicopters fly using aero lift and not magical gyroscopic effects that magically make them fly

[Anonymous No.16510096]

>>16510094
>>16510095
Don't bother, it's our resident retard

[Anonymous No.16510097]

>>16510086
>, I am not convinced atmospheric lift is sufficient to explain this Martian helo drone activity
look harder then
https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/80622/can-the-lift-equation-be-used-for-the-ingenuity-mars-helicopter

[Anonymous No.16510098]

>>16510095
yeah, they do
there's basically no atmosphere on Mars though so it's harder to explain

>magic
what part of gyroscopic force, precession, deflection, and conservation of angular momentum sound like magic to you
we have our own gyroscopes, and have noticed this interaction with gravity ourselves

>>16510094
I have already seen all this.
You aren't even attempting to address my concerns.

[Anonymous No.16510100]

>>16510098
>You aren't even attempting to address my concerns.
YOU are not attempting to address your 'concerns'

[Anonymous No.16510101]

>>16510098
>there's basically no atmosphere on Mars
But there's some, that's how it flew on Mars. It would not lift off the surface of the moon.

[Anonymous No.16510104]

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1866948865502638289
>Russia may launch another "Oreshnik" missile strike on Ukrainian territory in the coming days, but I don’t have a specific date — Pentagon spokesperson Sabrina Singh.

More reentry kino coming up

[Anonymous No.16510105]

>>16510098
>we have our own gyroscopes, and have noticed this interaction with gravity ourselves
lol, lmao

[Anonymous No.16510107]

>>16510098
There is an atmosphere on mars. You can see it creating a dust tornado on the left side of this pic.

[Anonymous No.16510108]

refraction of gravitational wavelength
real or bs

>>16510101
I would be VERY interested in seeing Ingenuity or some other inspired design attempting liftoff in full vacuum.

Your video shows only a partial vacuum IIRC. Could be wrong, in fact if they didn't pull a full vacuum for testing I would be surprised.
But in all the materials I have overviewed in my study I haven't come across such a thing.
Success in such a scenario would settle the question, and from what I know about gravity and spin it SHOULD be possible.

[Anonymous No.16510109]

/sfg/ brought to it's knees by an /x/ chad once again

[Anonymous No.16510110]

>>16510104
Russia should bomb an empty Ukr field with a Soyuz launched from vostochny just because it would be interesting and whimsical

[Anonymous No.16510112]

>>16510107
The Martian atmosphere density is less than 1% of Earth's.
Basically it just doesn't exist, and this should completely defeat conventional aerodynamics.

Which is why I think this effect must be related to the interaction of spin with gravitational force rather than atmospheric lift.

[Anonymous No.16510113]

>>16510107
Nigga the martian “““atmosphere””” is essentially a vacuum. For all intents and purposes it IS a vacuum, about as strong as a pretty good homemade vacuum chamber here on Earth could pull

[Anonymous No.16510115]

>>16510112
>>16510113
>Essentially
>Basically
>For all intents and purposes

[Anonymous No.16510116]

>>16510112
>>16510113
see
>>16510079
and
>>16510097

[Anonymous No.16510117]

>>16510108
Retard.

[Anonymous No.16510119]

>>16510110
They basically did this with proton in 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUhK5vnSigo

[Anonymous No.16510120]

>>16510115
yes. It only acts as a fluid if you’re
a) flying in at planetary entry velocities
or b) spinning your rotors insanely fucking fast to barely generate just enough lift to get your mass autism microcopter off the ground

[Anonymous No.16510123]

Where's anon with his "/sfg/ is retarded" image

[Anonymous No.16510125]

WARNING
you are responding to FLERFER posts
DO NOT REPLY
DO NOT ENGAGE

[Anonymous No.16510126]

>>16510110
Stupid geopolitical question incoming:
I know Ukraine’s yuzhmash has basically been obliterated at this point, but Ukr had/still has Zenits right? I see on the news all this talk of Ukr using American long range missiles to strike targets within Russia and how it’s “unprecedented” and how they need all this green lighting from America to actually do these strikes–but don’t they literally have orbital-capable Zenits?? Just lob that shit over the border like a V-2…

[Anonymous No.16510130]

>>16510125
they cant hide

[Anonymous No.16510133]

Reply to my post coward.

[Anonymous No.16510134]

>>16510047
Look yes it’s impotent that Lucy will be the first to see the jupiter Trojans, and they needed a dedicated mission at some point. But Lucy got selected in lieu of some other, way way cooler missions. NASA and ESA and JAXA have had this weird autistic asteroid hyperfixation the last 15ish years like come on.

[Anonymous No.16510135]

>>16510126
Orbital rockets are really slow compared to military ones. In WW2 british bi-planes would fly next to V2 rockets and hit them with their wings to destabilize them.
That said, anyone calling ATACMS a "long range missile" is a mega-retard brainlet.

[Anonymous No.16510138]

Guys what effect do you think skibidis toilet will have on the mars colonization plans. Seriouis answers only!!

[Anonymous No.16510140]

>>16510135
Ahhhh thanks, that seems obvious in hindsight

[Anonymous No.16510141]

>>16510125
>>16510130
cool damage control strawman you got there
this does not glow

[Anonymous No.16510142]

>>16510086
Holy shit this guy seriously needs to be killed.

[Anonymous No.16510146]

>>16510141
you're just being gently mocked for saying some silly things while ignoring anything offered to you.

[Anonymous No.16510147]

>>16510142
if executing my political opponents will get me to mars faster I’m all for it.

[Anonymous No.16510153]

>>16510142
projection
you are a waste of oxygen and mad because someone is calmly stating facts ITT

[Anonymous No.16510154]

>>16510153
You're gonna be calmly shoved out the airlock.

[Anonymous No.16510156]

>>16510108
>Success in such a scenario would settle the question, and from what I know about gravity and spin it SHOULD be possible.
you know less than nothing

[Anonymous No.16510158]

>>16510135
you're confusing the V2 rockets with the V1 cruise missiles
the V2 were uninterceptable

[Anonymous No.16510159]

>>16510156
centrifugal force counteracts gravity
coriolis force deflects away from gravitational pull perpendicularly

[Anonymous No.16510160]

>>16510159
doesn't work lol

[Anonymous No.16510163]

>>16510142
Kek
>>16510141
>federal agents are laughing at you on 4chan
PLEASE get help

[Anonymous No.16510164]

everyone who triggers my autism on the internet is a flat earther
this general is not a shitposting joke

[Anonymous No.16510165]

>>16510164
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.16510166]

>>16510165
>>16510154
you would need to airlock me because there is zero chance of you being able to kill me with your bare hands, pencil necked seething grub
whereas I enjoy a 100% chance of ending your life with my own hands if we were to ever meet and you said this to my face because you are physically, mentally, AND morally inferior to me

and everyone knows it too, it's obvious

[Anonymous No.16510169]

>>16510166
>

[Anonymous No.16510170]

this is not spaceflight

[Anonymous No.16510171]

The single major downside to the 4chan format is how easy it is for an insane man to disrupt communities and conversations. He's clearly not going away. What the fuck do we do about this?

[Anonymous No.16510172]

stop talking about gyroscope physics and Martian helo drones

it's off topic trust me

[Anonymous No.16510173]

The last couple of threads have been so fucking gay. You guys need to get laid

[Anonymous No.16510175]

>>16510171
Beat him at his own game

[Anonymous No.16510176]

>>16510172
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.16510177]

>>16510171
some /sfg/ regular needs to be a jannie

[Anonymous No.16510178]

>>16510173
I'm married, it's just this one guy
>>16510175
How?

[Anonymous No.16510179]

>>16510134
The real wailing and gnashing of teeth came from the Venus bros, who got Veritas thrown under the bus TWICE and in favor of fucking Psyche of all missions, which then went on to completely fuck NASA's exploration budget next to Insight and MSR

[Anonymous No.16510180]

>>16510173
Nah, the virgin trying to explain that redheads don't exist was funny as fuck.

[Anonymous No.16510181]

>>16510177
I vote for staging autist. If you read this, please email them

[Anonymous No.16510183]

>muh community

/reddit/ is >>>/out/ that way

[Anonymous No.16510184]

>>16510183
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.16510185]

>>16510108
Gyroscopes aren't real, idiot

[Anonymous No.16510187]

>>16510171
Hide his posts and ignore

[Anonymous No.16510188]

>>16510184
>>16510176
>>16510165

do it yourself pussy
little bitch you won't
can't even

[Anonymous No.16510190]

>>16510187
see >>16509292
>for 4chanx users you can mute all replies from the original post here

4chanX user is the cancer killing this general

[Anonymous No.16510191]

>>16510171
Report and ignore

[Anonymous No.16510192]

>NOOOOOOO
>HES USING NO NO WORDS
>QUICK JUST HIDE HIS POSTS AND PRETEND THE NO NO WORDS ARENT REAL
/space fruit general/

lalalalala can't hear you

[Anonymous No.16510193]

>>16510192
Stop. Mocking. Me.
Last warning

[Anonymous No.16510195]

>>16510177
>>16510181
I've got an in if I want it but that would mean policing the rest of fucking /sci/ and goddamn do I not want to do that
never have I seen such a den of schizophrenics

[Anonymous No.16510196]

Please guys I know your autism compels you to correct people but please just do this next thread please
>>16510187
>>16510191

[Anonymous No.16510199]

>>16510196
I, and the record, stand uncorrected.

What you are seeing ITT is damage control spam.
Nothing more.

[Anonymous No.16510200]

>>16510196
>noooooo don't call me out on my attempts to spread blatant falsehoods
you are the biggest blackest gorilla nigger I have ever seen

[Anonymous No.16510201]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz4GaAE7OMQ
Trailer for a JPL proposal for a upgraded Mars helicopter.
They used this spot of Marineris for the landscape, but the scale is ridiculously smaller than the real one (e.g. the central mound is 30km wide).

>>16510179
Psyche is cool, it's a much more useful destination than Venus

[Anonymous No.16510202]

>>16510195
>never have I seen such a den of schizophrenics
This is true. I'm in /x/ right now reading about the Great Big New Jersey Drone Invasion and those guys are a lot more level-headed that here.

[Anonymous No.16510204]

>>16510201
Very cool. Now mass produce them instead of handcrafting one for millions of dollars.
Also, these are perfect for an early starship mission. They could deploy right out of the cargo bay, no elevator needed. Looks stack-able too.

[Anonymous No.16510205]

>>16510135
>In WW2 british bi-planes would fly next to V2 rockets and hit them with their wings to destabilize them.

[Anonymous No.16510207]

>>16510204
>10,000 drones leaving one starship to map the Martian surface
kino kino kino
>>16510205
/sfg/ is ________

[Anonymous No.16510210]

>>16510179
Truly
>>16510201
>Psyche is cool, it's a much more useful destination than Venus
Objectively wrong

[Anonymous No.16510213]

>>16510201
>the scale is ridiculously smaller than the real one
no you don't understand

the chopper they are portraying is actually fucking enormous and everything is to scale

[Anonymous No.16510214]

Callisto KINGS wya

[Anonymous No.16510217]

>>16510158
the V2 were easily intercepted by random fields several miles fromthetarget.

[Anonymous No.16510218]

>>16510202
have they correctly deduced that it's schizos looking at airplanes

[Anonymous No.16510219]

oh I was wondering why the post count went down

[Anonymous No.16510220]

>>16510217
the "target" was southeast Britain in its entirety, and the Brits were successfully fucking with the Nazi targeting
it was not a very effective weapons

[Anonymous No.16510222]

>>16510217
Un-interceptable != actually accurate.

[Anonymous No.16510223]

>>16510205
Yeah I fully admit that was my dumb mistake. That said, I do think russian modern air defenses would have an easier time taking out a jerry rigged orbital rocket vs a specifically made military one.

[Anonymous No.16510228]

>>16510219
Im pissing down your throat fag

[Anonymous No.16510229]

>>16510218
No they've correctly deduced that it's aliens disguising their ships as airplanes. Typical devious xenos.

[Anonymous No.16510234]

>>16510220
Von Braun overstated the accuracy of the V2 by 'several orders of magnitude' as the Elon would say. They were trying to target individual bridges across the Rhine using V2s in the late war, and I think they were aiming for specific military tagets in southern England too, it's just they had dogshit intel and the V2 could never actually hit a target less than 3km wide

[Anonymous No.16510236]

>complaints deleted
>thread schizo remains
nice website you've got here

[Anonymous No.16510238]

>>16509114
>SpaceX
>names everything after Star now
>Starbase
>Starship
>Starlink
>we are now in the timeline where over the next few hundreds years
>it will be possible to christen the first Star League
mfw

[Anonymous No.16510239]

>>16510236
What are you talking about

[Anonymous No.16510240]

>>16510236
declaring report is a bannable offense

[Anonymous No.16510241]

https://x.com/Truthful_ast/status/1866989992343650710

You fags slept on this? Do you even follow space news?

[Anonymous No.16510243]

>>16510201
Any guess on the cost?

I'll say it will cost $3.4 billion for just the drone.

[Anonymous No.16510244]

>>16509925
wtf I love AI now

[Anonymous No.16510245]

>>16509830
>>16509849
What's truly ridiculous is that SpaceX did a 10:1 stock split prior to their money raise at 250B, and then had to reduce share buyback in order to allow new investors in. This means that likely around the 450-500B mark, they'll need to do another 10:1 split in order to keep up with their money raising goals, in order to fund Starlink Gen3 and get it up to a volume wherein they can stop raising money completely and rely entirely on Starlink revenue to drive the company permanently.

Every split they do, its technically dilution, but so many people want to buy shares, the dilution is irrelevant--but ironically, as a result of this, everyone who already has shares, will go from thousands to tens of to hundreds of to millions of to potentially billions of dollars in value themselves.

There's never been a company on this level in the history of the world and its hasn't even landed its Starship on the Moon yet. A moon landing will 10x the company valuation today and a Mars' landing would 10x that again likely.

[Anonymous No.16510247]

>>16509407
>literally still the bottom of the S curve

[Anonymous No.16510248]

>>16510243
Ingenuity was only 80 million, including R&D. They have the test chambers and all that shit built, so it should *theoretically* be cheaper to just scale up. But it's JPL so I'm not optimistic.

[Anonymous No.16510251]

>>16510248
Yeah but ingenuity was smaller, this is bit larger with more propeller, so I'd guess a small increment of 40X increase in price

[Anonymous No.16510253]

>>16510247
Youre a gay little baby arent you.

[Anonymous No.16510255]

>>16510244
>ip logged
>tip sent to fbi and FAA

[Anonymous No.16510256]

[Anonymous No.16510257]

hold up
the reason Ingenuity crashed is not just due to it's sensors getting confused or failing
it's gyroscope was designed on Earth, not Mars

that's a flaw

[Anonymous No.16510259]

>>16510255
make sure you tell them I'm planning on moving asteroids with my mind

[Anonymous No.16510260]

>>16510228
>ban evasion
Yikes

[Anonymous No.16510263]

>>16510257
I like the cut of your gib anon

[Anonymous No.16510266]

>>16510256
welcome to the club

[Anonymous No.16510267]

>>16510256
thank you sbarky, very cute

[Anonymous No.16510269]

>>16510256
rape that bitch now

[Anonymous No.16510271]

>>16510263
there should be an deployable autonomous navigation vehicle tasked with recovery of this first interplanetary human flight device sent along with the mission

[Anonymous No.16510273]

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1866894709723107537

>In a talk at #AGU24, Rob Lillis says the ESCAPADE mission is now exploring launch opportunities in 2025 and 2026 for the twin smallsats, which were to launch in October on the first New Glenn.
>Those opportunities would set up arrival at Mars in 2027.

[Anonymous No.16510274]

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1866878233934958622

Cost plus contracts are in the cross hair for wider republican party

[Anonymous No.16510276]

>>16510273
>mastadon account
The guy is leaking his EDS

[Anonymous No.16510277]

>>16510273
Q4 2026 trust the plan

[Anonymous No.16510281]

>>16510276
Not everyone likes loli porn spam in their main feed anon.

[Anonymous No.16510284]

>>16510281
>mastodon
>no loli porn

[Anonymous No.16510286]

>>16510281
Nice, but why is he on going on the pedophile infested communist site?

[Anonymous No.16510287]

>>16510286
>>16510284
The difference is it doesn't get shoved in your face by the pay to win algorithm. You have to seek it out, which is why it's all (you) are seeing there.

[Anonymous No.16510289]

First man on Mars

[Anonymous No.16510295]

>>16510287
So if you go to a pedophile website, you're not shoved with algorithms?

[Anonymous No.16510301]

>>16509771
>i'll just be a little nazi shit then fuck off to nasa
You are in for a rough time kid.

[Anonymous No.16510322]

>>16510301
Based

[Anonymous No.16510339]

>>16510098
important reminder: stop schizoposting and take your meds or kill yourself immediately

[Anonymous No.16510354]

Stage it faglets

[Anonymous No.16510361]

>>16510354
nigger

[Anonymous No.16510362]

okay I'll do it

[Anonymous No.16510365]

Staging:
>>16510364
>>16510364
>>16510364

[Anonymous No.16510370]

>>16510365
SOMEONE MAKE ANOTHER BREAD THIS ONE IS AWFUL

[Anonymous No.16510378]

>>16510370
no?

[Anonymous No.16510379]

>space flight

[Anonymous No.16510385]

fuck you

[Anonymous No.16510553]

>>16510201
That's going to be $2 billion plus tip :)