/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.16279321]

Falcon 9 grounded - edition
previous >>16276674

[Anonymous No.16279324]

was waiting for this but too lazy to do it myself

[Anonymous No.16279325]

spam thread

>>16279314 was staged first

[Anonymous No.16279327]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W676Kk9LSYw

Ariane Director laughs about SpaceX (2013)

[Anonymous No.16279332]

aeiou

[Anonymous No.16279338]

>>16279321
Reminder,

2 WEEKS UNTIL LAUNCH

for both Starship and Falcon 9 (investigation resoluation)

[Anonymous No.16279339]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/07/the-unmatched-streak-of-perfection-with-spacexs-falcon-9-rocket-is-over/
>"The FAA will be involved in every step of the investigation process and must approve SpaceX’s final report, including any corrective actions," an FAA spokesperson said. "A return to flight is based on the FAA determining that any system, process, or procedure related to the mishap does not affect public safety."
>Two crew missions are supposed to launch on SpaceX's human-rated Falcon 9 rocket in the next six weeks, but those launch dates are now in doubt.

[Anonymous No.16279342]

>>16279339
>Going into Thursday's mission, the current version of SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket, known as the Falcon 9 Block 5, was indisputably the most reliable launch vehicle in history. Since debuting in May 2018, the Falcon 9 Block 5, which NASA has certified for astronaut flights, never had a mission failure in all of its 297 launches before the ill-fated Starlink 9-3 mission.

first block 5 failure in 297 launches

[Anonymous No.16279344]

>>16279327
if only Ariane 6's reentry test payloads were on falcon, they wouldn't be stuck in orbit for decades.

[Anonymous No.16279345]

>>16279339
>tHiS iS wHy We HaVe ReDuNdAnT sYsTeMs

meanwhile Starliner is years late and is stuck at the ISS

[Anonymous No.16279346]

frog

[Anonymous No.16279350]

>>16279325
this, >>16279314 was posted 10 minutes earlier, so >>16279314 is the real /sfg/

[Anonymous No.16279352]

[Anonymous No.16279353]

>>16279350
don't be a faggot, don't make faggot threads

[Anonymous No.16279363]

>>16279353
don't be so easily triggered and emotionally fragile when you see space news that upsets you. its nobody's fault but your own that you're a transphobic bigot

[Anonymous No.16279365]

>>16279321
Is it over?
It feels over.

[Anonymous No.16279369]

>>16279365
it's only just beginning
much as a wildfire clears way for new saplings, the grounding of falcon is the push that industry needs to truly accept its successor

[Anonymous No.16279370]

There are people in this thread who don't remember AMOS-6

[Anonymous No.16279371]

>>16279325
yeah but it's gay
>>16279327
stupid frogposter

[Anonymous No.16279373]

>>16279325
Just made a post in your thread, hope you like it

[Anonymous No.16279375]

>>16279370
I remember AMOS-6, Falcon was grounded for a long time iirc

[Anonymous No.16279376]

So how did /ULAsniper/ manage to nail that shot during second stage flight? What technology is Tory not telling us about?

[Anonymous No.16279378]

>>16279376
No sniper needed, this was obviously done during construction.

[Anonymous No.16279379]

>>16279363
"look at me I am gay" is not space news

[Anonymous No.16279381]

Sorry, but I won't be able to post in this thread because I killed myself a few hours ago when I heard the news

[Anonymous No.16279383]

Hullo is talking about the failure and engine rats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St-yEc6fyLg

[Anonymous No.16279386]

>>16279321
squeak squeak

[Anonymous No.16279389]

>>16279386
damn engine rats...
THEY TOLD ME YOU CUTE BUGGERS WERE HARMLESS!!!

[Anonymous No.16279391]

>>16279376
Brilliant Pebbles

[Anonymous No.16279392]

>>16279389
not de-mouse-ing their vehicle integration facility finally bit them when one of the buggers chewed through a lox line

[Anonymous No.16279393]

>>16279389
Turns out it gnawed through the fuel line

[Anonymous No.16279397]

anyone here besides me actually remember the super old times /sci/ schizo who would post the gifs about the engine ice rats in like 2014

[Anonymous No.16279398]

>>16279339
>"The FAA will be involved in every step of the investigation process and must approve SpaceX’s final report, including any corrective actions,"
well, it's over, it was good while it lasted. see you guys next year.

[Anonymous No.16279401]

>>16279397
/sfg/ isn't that old but vaguely, yeah.

[Anonymous No.16279404]

So how long is f9 grounded?
2 weeks?
a month?
a year?

[Anonymous No.16279406]

>>16279404
Two weeks, always

[Anonymous No.16279408]

>>16279321
>americans get overconfident
>2nd stage of Falcon explodes
>Shartliner crew stuck in the ISS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.16279409]

>>16279363
There's a whole entire board for you to go be gay in. Leave it in there.

[Anonymous No.16279410]

>>16279404
Where are we? Help me to recollect

[Anonymous No.16279412]

>>16279404
Space Force needs it flying asap so the FAA will be sent to space Gitmo if they interfere more than the bare minimum.

[Anonymous No.16279413]

WHEN YOU'RE TRAPPED ON THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION... NO ONE CAN HEAR YOU SCREAM (EXCEPT FOR YOUR FELLOW ASTRONAUTS... AND MISSION CONTROL... AND WHOEVER YOU'RE SKYPEING WITH)

[Anonymous No.16279414]

>>16279404
My money is on 3 to 5 weeks

[Anonymous No.16279415]

>Due to the SpaceX failure NASA has decided to reward the Space Station deorbit contract to Boeing Starliner. Astronauts onboard the station will power on the stranded Starliners propulsion system and when deorbit is required

[Anonymous No.16279416]

>>16279408
we win again, mon ami

[Anonymous No.16279421]

>>16279391
kek, the ULA slingshotter

[Anonymous No.16279422]

Someone talk about how Europa Clipper is gonna be delayed because a contractor delivered malfunctional chips.

[Anonymous No.16279424]

>>16279413
>Semitic Standard

[Anonymous No.16279426]

>>16279379
"look at me I am a transphobic bigot" is not space news, putting flags on the moon is space news

[Anonymous No.16279427]

>>16279424
Brainworms
go outside

[Anonymous No.16279430]

For the "however-many-ith" time, NASA and/or SpaceX is NOT planning a "rescue Dragon mission" to bring Barry and Suni back to Earth.

[Anonymous No.16279432]

The two astronauts that are now """""stranded in space""""" :We see this as an absolute win

[Anonymous No.16279435]

>>16279422
radiation hardening MOSFETs is the way of the past. the future is having 3 or more voting MOSFETs and taking the output that 2 agree on

[Anonymous No.16279438]

>>16279435
okay but what about the logic that does all that? And what if radiation permanently somehow fucks up a mosfet.

[Anonymous No.16279442]

>>16279427
>t.Jew

[Anonymous No.16279446]

SPEHS

[Anonymous No.16279447]

>>16279389
they are harmless, they just chose to escape
you do not blame a sinking ship on the rats that are fleeing it

[Anonymous No.16279448]

>>16279397
maybe, I don't think I came to /sci/ that often back then

[Anonymous No.16279452]

>>16279424
No it's "Semiotic", you know like Semitic and Idiotic all mashed together (like Boeing)

[Anonymous No.16279454]

>>16279452
"semiotic" means "flags" or "signs"

[Anonymous No.16279457]

>>16279422
Not only knew the chips were bad but deliberately did not inform NASA after discovering the issue.

[Anonymous No.16279458]

>>16279321
From the previous thread:

>The two Starliner astronauts went to space without two suitcases they packed with clothes and toiletries because NASA needed to squeeze a bathroom pump on board their flight. It’s not yet clear whether NASA will be forced to delay that resupply mission.

I absolutely refuse to believe this is true and those two are now stranded up there without anything but the clothes on their backs (oh and a toilet pump apparently)

[Anonymous No.16279460]

So what are we guessing happened?
I bet another it/they decided to show Elon who's boss and let a part fail.
Or the boomer who's been there too long didn't do proper QC and it allowed a faulty part through inspection.
Somebody's losing their job over this, lol.

[Anonymous No.16279462]

>>16279454
>t. Sheldon Cooper

[Anonymous No.16279464]

>>16279460
Maybe a part that was mad out of some of that fake Chinese titanium that was in the news a while back

[Anonymous No.16279466]

>>16279438
>And what if radiation permanently somehow fucks up a mosfet.
It's dangerous to have space probes get their brains scrambled, the Six Million Dollar Man taught us that

[Anonymous No.16279467]

>>16279460
The majority of SpaceX employees are there less than a year there is no such thing as boomer who's been there too long at that company outside of management

[Anonymous No.16279469]

>>16279430
so from what I've learned about this whole field is this means they have now begun preparing (in secret) for a rescue mission

[Anonymous No.16279471]

>>16279467
>The majority of SpaceX employees are there less than a year there is no such thing as boomer who's been there too long at that company outside of management
Boomers are old and at retirement age. Some people work their whole lives instead of staying home with their failing health.
I don't need to be working behind David and doing his job because hes an alcoholic but hides it pretty well. They won't fire him because I catch all of his mistakes.

[Anonymous No.16279473]

So what is the cope for the impeding chinese-style uncontrolled reentry óf the failed Starlinks?

They might literally fly over my house.

[Anonymous No.16279474]

>>16279473
Burning up in atmosphere within few days

[Anonymous No.16279475]

>>16279473
they've already started reentering

[Anonymous No.16279481]

Static fire campaign starts next week
https://x.com/SheriffGarza/status/1811888279706309012

[Anonymous No.16279482]

>>16279473
They already burned up over Argentina. They only had a perigee of 135 km and they were losing 5 km every orbit

[Anonymous No.16279483]

>>16279339
This is karma in action

[Anonymous No.16279488]

>>16279397
only thing I remember from 2014 on the top of my head is watching maidan lifestreams

[Anonymous No.16279490]

>>16279458
2 months in the same clothes, no wonder the ISS smells like shit

[Anonymous No.16279495]

>>16279473
>impending
Burned up 12 hours ago

[Anonymous No.16279496]

>>16279446
they just aren't as good looking as Saturn

[Anonymous No.16279498]

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1811894387577909380
>A statement from NASA on the Falcon 9 launch failure and implications for upcoming agency missions:

[Anonymous No.16279499]

>>16279482
the one starlink that had its ephemera updated was increasing its perigee (though dropping apogee). This might have been the exploded second stage though.

[Anonymous No.16279503]

>>16279404
A few weeks I guess.

[Anonymous No.16279507]

EUROPA CLIPPER BROS
Not like this

[Anonymous No.16279508]

>>16279499
>the exploded second stage though
didn't the press state the 2nd stage survived the engine RUD?

[Anonymous No.16279510]

>>16279481
2 WEEKS TILL LAUNCH

[Anonymous No.16279511]

>>16279495
Are those autobots or decepticons

[Anonymous No.16279512]

>>16279507
There are backup launch windows for at least the next two years. This is a delay, not a disaster

Launching on a long trip to a high radiation environment with shitty Soviet-grade computers would be a disaster

[Anonymous No.16279513]

>>16279495
>¿Meteoritos?
>¡No es meteoritos!
>Es actualememtes Starlinkos

[Anonymous No.16279514]

>>16279488
haha yeah

[Anonymous No.16279517]

>>16279508
An intact 2nd stage with no deltav is just as worthless as an exploded stage

[Anonymous No.16279521]

Whoever OP was, amazing job.

[Anonymous No.16279526]

>>16279521
This calls for a round of applause. Like wow, it's insane.

[Anonymous No.16279535]

>>16279481
>>16279510

August 15

[Anonymous No.16279582]

I'm going on a sex strike until Falcon 9 flies again
Who else is with me?
If the ladies want /sfg/ dick again they'd better get regulatory approval for more flights

[Anonymous No.16279584]

I predict Starship will get FAA approval before F9 and fly before it as well

[Anonymous No.16279586]

>son I am disappoint

[Anonymous No.16279588]

that disaster came freakishly close to being a major danger to the public. spacex should have a hard cp imposed so they stop doing ridiculous launch cadence with no quality control. 30 launches a year max. decrease every time they fail, including with starship.

[Anonymous No.16279590]

>>16279588
Buy an ad

[Anonymous No.16279594]

>>16279588
I think spacex deserves a state sponsored monopoly

[Anonymous No.16279593]

Cygnus — filled with trash packed by the station crew — will be commanded to deorbit on Saturday, July 13, setting up a destructive re-entry in which the spacecraft will safely burn up in Earth's atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.16279595]

>>16279588
lmao

[Anonymous No.16279597]

>>16279588
Listen, Delta, I already follow you on Twitter. You don't need to shill yourself like this. Doomerism is cringe anyway

[Anonymous No.16279598]

>>16279588
NASA has proven beyond a doubt with SLS that one launch every three/four years leads to flawless performance, SpaceX should be forced to throttle back to this more sensible cadence.

[Anonymous No.16279599]

>>16279586
a repeected chruman gentliman

[Anonymous No.16279607]

https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1811802568042971148

[Anonymous No.16279609]

>>16279607

[Anonymous No.16279612]

[Anonymous No.16279618]

>>16279612
Go tell them you want more launches than that

[Anonymous No.16279620]

>>16279612
See you there bros, you'll recognise me as the dude holding the placard sign that says

DEATH TO EARTHERS

BEAHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT SPACEX

[Anonymous No.16279623]

>boot up KSP for first time in a while
>get a massive popup after loading, "TWEAKSCALE NO LONGER WORKS WITH CKAN!! READ MY RANT ON MY BLOG"
What autistic dispute caused this? I just want to pretend I'm smart for choosing 2.5m engine AB instead of 2.5m engine AA

[Anonymous No.16279628]

>>16279612
Kino is back on the menu

[Anonymous No.16279633]

>>16279612
Gonna go there, eyeball people as they come out of their cats to see which car belongs to who and then key the cars of the dipshits who oppose manifest destiny

[Anonymous No.16279636]

>>16279623
twinkscale got his gf fucked by ckan guy and she ran off with him

[Anonymous No.16279639]

>>16279612
Biweekly is a good start. Biweekly would be even better.

[Anonymous No.16279643]

Based on the dimensions described in https://www.patrick.spaceforce.mil/Portals/14/Draft%20EA%20and%20FONSI%20for%20Stoke%20Space%20Nova%20Launch%20Program%2C%20CCSFS.pdf

These are quick edits showing what the current Nova Stokes should look like, with the official render for reference. The largest diameter of the S2 isn't described so I edited various possibilities.

[Anonymous No.16279650]

>>16279588
Retard take

[Anonymous No.16279655]

>>16279446
>Never launch me or my son again

[Anonymous No.16279663]

So... Delayed until when?

[Anonymous No.16279664]

>>16279655
okay

[Anonymous No.16279665]

>>16279663
Forever

[Anonymous No.16279668]

>>16279663
NET July 31
(falcon will be flying twice a week again by then)

[Anonymous No.16279673]

>>16279643
rightmost has a great shape

[Anonymous No.16279684]

>>16279507
falcon heavy is a different vehicle :^)

[Anonymous No.16279693]

>haters don't understand that this anomaly will make F9 even safer in the future

[Anonymous No.16279696]

Would this ever be a legitimate rocket engine design? Or will it forever be left in the "that's cool" category? Particularly as a first stage or even as the main propulsion for an SSTO?

[Anonymous No.16279706]

https://x.com/C_Bass3d/status/1811540605379453334

Bretty cool 3D of dragon space walk

[Anonymous No.16279711]

>>16279696
pulsed NTRs are never going to give you anywhere near enough thrust for takeoff

[Anonymous No.16279712]

>>16279693
Engineering defect, manufacturing defect, or other form of process escape; either way, now they're looking for all of these, which will see benefits wrought across SpaceX's product lineup as they incorporate process improvements.

[Anonymous No.16279716]

>>16279693
Yes. In fact they should be launch rockets even faster to find out all the 1 in 1000, 1 in 10000 chances early on so that they can optimize for 1 in 1,000,000 chance failures.

[Anonymous No.16279717]

>>16279612
I%T"S HAPPENENIIIIINGNGNN AAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.16279718]

>>16279711
The design gives you semi-torchship like thrust for its mass. That's the whole gimmick with the pulsed mode. You can heat the propellant super hot without melting the core (assuming the cooling system is good enough to handle it).

[Anonymous No.16279721]

When will manned space warships be a thing and how will they look /sfg/?

[Anonymous No.16279722]

He's got a point

[Anonymous No.16279735]

>>16279722
he should start focusing on launching more than 3 rockets per year

[Anonymous No.16279737]

>>16279722
Nope. The only point he wants to get across is that FAA investigation may be lengthy. Which is a fault of the over regulated system. If FAA investigation is swift and covers 90% of the bases, then its a non issue

[Anonymous No.16279739]

>>16279664
ouch

[Anonymous No.16279742]

>>16279722
>now pay me $1 billion a year just to exist

[Anonymous No.16279743]

he finally did it. 1000 starships launches per year incoming

[Anonymous No.16279750]

>>16279693
Also it's comfy that "reused" is turning out to be so reassuring

[Anonymous No.16279751]

>>16279743
maybe he should've used that money to fix starship's problems first?

[Anonymous No.16279753]

>>16279750
I prefer "flight proven"

[Anonymous No.16279754]

>>16279743
Concerning

[Anonymous No.16279758]

>>16279753
Me too, I shouldn't have put it in quotes

[Anonymous No.16279759]

>>16279754
Ah yes, the terror of astroturfed trends.

[Anonymous No.16279760]

>>16279636
Cheers. I'm going to keep waiting for my 30,000 Mod Manager patches to load and keep coming up with ideas for Boing launches (like launching from woomerang but going interplanetary, or running out of food... on the way to the Mun)

[Anonymous No.16279761]

>>16279751
He is. This money is going to fix the regulatory side of Starship's problems.

[Anonymous No.16279768]

Curiosity is gonna get stuck.

[Anonymous No.16279770]

>>16279768
I can't believe how many missions end earlier than they had to simply due to mass autism. There's no way that any rover's wheels would ever fail like that if they had a SHLV's mass budget to work with

[Anonymous No.16279776]

>>16279768
Why does NASA photoshop images taken on Mars?

[Anonymous No.16279784]

>>16279751
>why is he wasting money on space he should fix earth's problems first
>NOOOO not like that he should fix space's problems first

[Anonymous No.16279786]

>>16279768
A brilliant rover taken far before its time.

[Anonymous No.16279797]

>>16279743
Based if its actually significant amount.

If its just symbolic like a $100 donation, it would still be good gesture.

[Anonymous No.16279805]

>>16279797
He has been aggressively neutral up to this point. It's pretty significant. It's worth keeping in mind that Trump wanted a Mars mission by 2020. Now he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about but he does want his name attached to that stuff so I think it'll give SpaceX a much easier time

[Anonymous No.16279821]

>>16279735
he's once again waiting on jeff

[Anonymous No.16279827]

>>16279321
>>16279339
>>16279342
>>16279805

kys

These threads are the worst psyop's on 4Chan, embarrassing federal agent glowies everywhere

All you ever talk about are Jewish space technologies and are so incredibly behind other shithole countries

Fuck Boeing too and most of the anons here wank off to them and their Israeli agents

All you anons post are pop science burger version, it's like if Disney's version of Star Wars had an autistic and drunk incest child with Jeffrey Epstein

[Anonymous No.16279838]

>>16279827
Nice gaslighting attempt. Next time try figuring out a business plan that doesn't depend on maintaining constant low rate machining of overdone aluminum billets, because the future is now.

[Anonymous No.16279841]

>>16279827
ogey

[Anonymous No.16279844]

>>16279827
>reddit spacing
>bot-generated content
>>>/out/

[Anonymous No.16279847]

>>16279827
>4Chan

[Anonymous No.16279848]

>>16279847
4channel

[Anonymous No.16279857]

>>16279768
They made the damn things out of aluminum, why? Blah blah mass, build something that lasts pussies!

[Anonymous No.16279880]

>>16279827
Fine, I'll bite.
>so incredibly behind other shithole countries
Who is SpaceX behind?

[Anonymous No.16279885]

>>16279397
It wasn't 2014, but yes. There were people thinking that those were actual are rats and that the launches were fake.

[Anonymous No.16279891]

>>16279743
He did say that he would donate closer to the election when he was more certain. I guess those debates and everything following them was enough.

[Anonymous No.16279902]

>but sir the starship cant do rescue missions without life support the astronauts will be dead outside the module
>>then well bring down the module

[Anonymous No.16279905]

>China wins again after SpaceX failure
Falcon 9 will be shutdown forever.

[Anonymous No.16279919]

>>16279768
This is your brain on mass autism

[Anonymous No.16279920]

>>16279880
China's so far ahead their static tests are becoming dynamic

[Anonymous No.16279923]

>nobody's launching ANYTHING for at least a week

[Anonymous No.16279930]

Spaceflight has reclined
Humanity will remain monoplanetary

[Anonymous No.16279931]

>>16279923
that's insane

[Anonymous No.16279932]

>>16279931
Welcome back to pre-Falcon hell.

[Anonymous No.16279940]

place your bets
>manufacturing issue
>software issue
>3rd party part supplier issue
>fundamental design issue that only appears every 300 flights
>act of god

[Anonymous No.16279943]

>>16279940
3rd party who got hosed by a Chinese supplier

[Anonymous No.16279945]

>>16279940
I won't bother guessing. But what I'm certain about is that is a 1 in 1000-10,000 issue that won't be too hard to figure out and prevent in the future.

[Anonymous No.16279946]

>>16279943
we have a winner

[Anonymous No.16279948]

>>16279943
Yeah, another item to add to the "fine, we'll do it ourselves then for fucks sake" list

[Anonymous No.16279950]

>>16279946
I recall that small aerospace part company that spacex used which falsified documents to keep their contract. was in the news a couple years ago

[Anonymous No.16279952]

Thunderf00t bros... we can't stop winning!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86NjizfRGyk

[Anonymous No.16279953]

NATO allies pledge $1 billion to promote sharing of space-based intel

>During their summit in Washington, DC, this week, NATO member states committed more than $1 billion to improve the sharing of intelligence from national and commercial reconnaissance satellites.
>The agreement is a further step toward integrating space assets into NATO military commands. It follows the bloc's adoption of an official space policy in 2019, which recognized space as a fifth war-fighting domain alongside air, land, maritime, and cyberspace. The next step was the formation of the NATO Space Operations Center in 2020 to oversee space support for NATO military operations.
>On June 25, NATO announced the establishment of a "space branch" in its Allied Command Transformation, which identifies trends and incorporates emerging capabilities into the alliance's security strategy.
>The 17 parties to the agreement pledged more than $1 billion transition the program into an implementation phase over the next five years. Six of the 17 signatories currently operate or plan to launch their own national reconnaissance satellites, while several more nations are home to companies operating commercial space-based surveillance satellites.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/07/nato-allies-pledge-1-billion-to-promote-sharing-of-space-based-intel/

the alliance is really throwing some weight into military space, probably at the behest of the US. if this is part of a series of in the alliance's space strategy, then i wonder what comes next?

[Anonymous No.16279954]

>>16279940
Third-party part got replaced by chinesium on accident

[Anonymous No.16279959]

>third party
>on a space eggs roggit
Wut

[Anonymous No.16279960]

>>16279959
>sls_suppliers.webm

[Anonymous No.16279963]

>>16279446
I miss this nigga so much

[Anonymous No.16279967]

>>16279959
They don't make absolutely everything in house, just a very large majority.

[Anonymous No.16279973]

>>16279721
If they ever come into existence, they'll probably be privately owned and operated.

[Anonymous No.16279989]

>>16279754
wtf?

[Anonymous No.16279995]

This is your god?

[Anonymous No.16279998]

>>16279995
Yeah we need him to work on the man titties with disrespectful protruding nipples. It's not very becoming for the future space emperor.

[Anonymous No.16279999]

>>16279995
he's no Special K

[Anonymous No.16280002]

33 days until Starship launch

[Anonymous No.16280003]

>>16279370
reminder that amos 6 was not a failure

[Anonymous No.16280019]

Let's talk about which government building do I need to blank in order to punish them for not going to Titan's lakes?

[Anonymous No.16280026]

>>16280003
Destruction of payload is nothing other than mission failure.

[Anonymous No.16280031]

>>16279761
maybe he should issue a real bribe instead of these cringe donations

[Anonymous No.16280032]

>>16279768
it's gonna become a static weather station soon. All because they wanted the wheels to be 1mm thinner.

[Anonymous No.16280035]

>>16279940
fake titanium

[Anonymous No.16280036]

>>16280031
For real. He should be greasing palms and playing the game, the sheer amount of bullshit and delays must have far exceeded the cost of bribing some of these cunts.

[Anonymous No.16280037]

>>16279995
doesn't he know that his plastic cup is leeching into his alcoholic beverage. It's over.

[Anonymous No.16280039]

>>16280019
We should be thankful we're going on Titan at all, even witch such a cool vehicle. although the fact that they removed the chief flight systems engineer who knew what the fuck he was talking about is concerning.

[Anonymous No.16280059]

/sfg/ is dead

[Anonymous No.16280067]

>be me, a proud American
>mock Ariane a few days ago after their rocket experienced a partial failure
>Falcon 9 experiences total payload loss few days later
Guess karma is real. Take my apology eurofrens

[Anonymous No.16280082]

>>16279495
Reminder that we were robbed of a shooting star light show for the Tokyo Olympics. If we're lucky Ariane would provide the light show in 2 weeks.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-37928806

[Anonymous No.16280086]

https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1812058971185758474

[Anonymous No.16280109]

https://x.com/jasonjoyride/status/1809677955762909643

[Barkon, Vard and Worl No.16280112]

>>16280109
This, I could be waiting for this to load. Which the film seems to tell me takes some time.

[Anonymous No.16280118]

>>16280086
they want to send thousands of mirrors into LEO I think in a sun synchronous orbit at the terminator

[Anonymous No.16280119]

>>16280118
fuck meant to reply to >>16280109

https://x.com/4TristanS/status/1799666276878667950

[Anonymous No.16280135]

So were these starlinks in that failed launch the first ones ever to re-enter the atmosphere?

[Anonymous No.16280136]

>>16280109
Imagine thinking this would ever pass regulatory review
Every environmentalist on Earth would line up to take shots at this thing

[Anonymous No.16280140]

>>16280119
what's the difference between an engineer and an intern?

[Anonymous No.16280146]

On the bright side, at least this time it's not the valves.

Spoiler: The valves are bad too but they don't know that yet.

[Anonymous No.16280147]

>>16280140
engineers are men, interns are attractive college girls

[Anonymous No.16280148]

>>16280146
MOSFETs are just very small valves anon

[Anonymous No.16280149]

>>16280109
>sunlight energy per area
>surface area per mass of mylar
>F9 launch cost
Assuming perfect everything, no structure or control system, perfect reflectivity, constant use, this is more expensive than every other method of generating power. Not to mention the issue of large surface areas in LEO. They have a physics problem disguised as an engineering problem. This is never going to happen.

[Anonymous No.16280150]

>>16280149
the point is to provide solar power at night. there wont be any fossil fuels in the near future, and nuclear is a nonstarter, so your only competition is wind and that isn't steady.

[Anonymous No.16280155]

>>16280149
I'm pretty sure it assumes Starship launch costs and would be for extending the energy generation time at dawn and dusk, especially at dusk it would probably help a lot, electricity needs starting to increase when people come home from work just when the sun starts to go down and solar power generation goes down with it
because you can opportunistically use this you could use it a bit like a peak power plant similarly to how batteries are used
with F9 launch costs I doubt it would work, with Starship launch costs, who knows
if this isn't some VC scam then they must have some model for generating more revenue than the system costs to operate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_curve

[Anonymous No.16280157]

>>16280155

[Anonymous No.16280163]

Fuck nocturnal life
Sun never sets on the mirror sat empire

[Anonymous No.16280167]

>>16280150
I would would be shocked if maintaining a satellite constellation is within two orders of magnitude of the cost of solar. I mean, look at the image I replied to. You're telling me it makes more sense to launch shit into space than it does to just fill that map with solar and batteries?
>nuclear is a nonstarter
Huh? There's like half a dozen companies working on a containerized low temp (meltdown proof) reactor for the DoD right now. It might not be cheaper than solar but it'll be cheaper than satellites
>>16280155
I just don't see it being more cost effective than just building more solar and batteries in the desert. I mean, to match current US solar using all the same perfect conditions from my earlier post would require them to launch 135,000 tons. Triple that to add the structure and control system. Not even starship makes that make sense

[Anonymous No.16280170]

>>16279743
Let the seething begin.

[Anonymous No.16280172]

>>16279923
How will NSF survive this? How can they keep the simps going without a launch?

[Anonymous No.16280173]

>>16279999
checked

[Anonymous No.16280174]

>>16280172
They will watch tower sections being lifted

[Anonymous No.16280176]

>>16280167
they talk about this being a way to basically transfer energy at long distances (i.e. there has been some plans to build a lot of solar in the sahara and then transfer it into europe, but it is very costly)

[Anonymous No.16280177]

>>16280146
>at least this time it's not the valves.
good thing, I think only Russians make valves these days

[Anonymous No.16280178]

>>16280176
>>16280167
you also have a bunch of solar already not being utilized because it gets no sunlight
this system will also be global by its nature, so when the terminator advances you sell your sunlight to different solar farms
its not one satellite or satellite constellation for one solar farm, its one satellite constellation for all of earth basically selling the power to the highest bidder

[Barkon, Vard and Worl No.16280179]

>>16280176
Definitely. It gluey for real. It traces back a refreshes perfectly gluey. Double checked. In my opinion phase 1 is done already. There are four phases. The first 2 are action packed.

[Anonymous No.16280190]

>>16280146
i'm not gonna get too mad at clipper seeing as they made a good-faith effort at controlling costs but how do you wait until 3 months before launch to figure this out?

[Anonymous No.16280198]

>>16279940
They just pushed their assembly line too hard. They're making a second stage every 2.5 days or so

[Anonymous No.16280203]

>>16280109
>portion of the US grid flies over China once a day
This will literally never happen
>>16280176
>costly
High voltage lines spanning a continent will probably be cheaper in the long run than maintaining a satellite constellation

[Anonymous No.16280207]

https://x.com/Peter_J_Beck/status/1812097201054839217

[Anonymous No.16280208]

>>16280203
starlink already flies over china everyday, in fact there are starlinks over china all the time
maintaining starlink is also probably cheaper than doing fiber in some areas, the europe-sahara solar project lines would cost somehting like 40 billion
you would get a lot of these satellites up there with 40 billion and Starships mass to LEO costs

[Anonymous No.16280210]

>>16280207
He’s desperate

[Anonymous No.16280211]

>>16280207
I wonder who was behind the F9 failure

[Anonymous No.16280212]

>>16280190

When you only have $4.25 billion to work with, sometimes corners get cut.

[Anonymous No.16280213]

>>16280203
>High voltage lines spanning a continent will probably be cheaper in the long run

> Costs for high voltage direct current lines can cost $1.17 million to $8.62 million per mile, according to the federal Energy Information Administration.Dec 22, 2023

Show the math for your case.

[Anonymous No.16280226]

>>16280212
kek

[Anonymous No.16280230]

>>16280213
I mean we don't know the mass/area of their satellites, we don't know the expected lifespan, we don't know the efficiency of reflected light/area, and we don't know the time each satellite will actually be in use. You can't do the math. But like I said, considering ideal everything (no structure or control, perfect reflectivity, constant use), you'd need 1350 Starship launches to match the current US solar infrastructure. I'm sure if I had real numbers it would be 10-100x worse. I like space but there's really no money to be made beyond communication and cameras.

[Anonymous No.16280242]

>>16280213
>according to the federal Energy Information Administration
You first

[Anonymous No.16280244]

>>16280230
you can't just compare it to generic solar power generation, you need to compare it to batteries or peaker plants that would need to be used at dawn or dusk
peaker plant power generation is much more expensive than just some generic levelized cost for solar

[Anonymous No.16280245]

[Anonymous No.16280247]

>>16279325
Not using that fag shit

[Anonymous No.16280255]

>>16280244
>batteries or peaker plants that would need to be used at dawn or dusk
Just make methane during the day retard

[Anonymous No.16280257]

>>16280255
doing that for intraday power sounds retarded
maybe for seasonal

[Anonymous No.16280258]

>>16280242
Dont hate on EIA nigger fantastic website.

[Anonymous No.16280259]

>>16280255
>make methane
>store in batteries
>run a peaker plant
The problem with any space resource is that in real life efficiency is measured in dollars. You're talking about competing on an actual trackable commodity, and space as cheap as it possibly can be is still too expensive. Why launch satellites when you could just build extra solar with an automatic methane buffer?

[Anonymous No.16280260]

>>16279722
Considering total mass to space, non-SpaceX providers are measurement error.

They provide an alternative in the same way that keeping two AA batteries in your home provides an alternative to electricity from the grid.

Tory should suck start a shotgun.

[Anonymous No.16280261]

>>16280167
https://world-nuclear-news.org/

https://www.eia.gov/

[Anonymous No.16280262]

>>16279931
yeah

[Anonymous No.16280263]

>>16279940
female and/or black employee issue

[Anonymous No.16280265]

>>16279995
Yes

[Anonymous No.16280269]

>>16279953
Lets hope it spurs the euros to get serious about space.

[Anonymous No.16280270]

>>16280150
You are a retarded nigger, and you forgot hydro.

[Anonymous No.16280273]

>>16279768
Cancel MSR and send a pit crew robot instead. Way cooler and more efficient use of money.

[Anonymous No.16280276]

>>16279643
Stokes, really should have teamed up with a company that has an existing first stage. What is the mass of there second stage? Who could launch it?

[Anonymous No.16280279]

>>16280276
>Stokes, really should have teamed up with a company that has an existing first stage
Retard

[Anonymous No.16280280]

>>16280270
most hydro has been utilized and in general is irrelevant other than regionally in a few places
not a general solution

[Anonymous No.16280281]

>>16280109
>imagine the bright dots in the nightsky
>imagine the astronomer chimpout

[Anonymous No.16280282]

>>16280281
ground based astronomy is going to be dead soon anyway

[Anonymous No.16280286]

>>16280279
Cut there development time in half, hell could be riding on falcons rn.

[Anonymous No.16280287]

>>16280259
>Why launch satellites when you could just build extra solar with an automatic methane buffer?
Yeah agree. Space beamed power for earth sucks.
>>16280257
Nah you just fill the pipeline and buffer tanks and then gas plants tap off from it when it gets dark.

[Anonymous No.16280293]

>>16279495
I hope they took out some Falklands veterans in extremely painful manners of death

[Anonymous No.16280292]

>>16279643
What is this supposed to be?
We know exactly how big Nova is.

[Anonymous No.16280295]

>>16280286
Falcon probably is too skinny.
Every other company would be straight up impossible to work with.
It would not be a permanent solution and you would have to develop a first stage anyway. So why not do it now?
Same reasoning why they went straight to FFSC.
They actually seem to be very good at making executive decisions like that.

[Anonymous No.16280296]

>>16280293
fully demisable during re-entry nigga

[Barkon, Vard and Worl No.16280297]

>>16280296
Ga'qle

[Barkon, Vard and Worl No.16280312]

>>16280296
I'm a good boy now cause you're saying it's different.

[Anonymous No.16280314]

>>16280255
i make it 24/7. get good.

[Anonymous No.16280318]

Remember to repoet the namefag automated spambot

[Anonymous No.16280322]

>>16280318
Oh kek janny just banned the B*rkun posts as I posted this nevermind.

[Anonymous No.16280333]

>Elon is funding Trump
Project 2025 will put his trans daughter in a death camp, why can't Musk be a decent fucking person?

[Anonymous No.16280339]

>>16280333
based

[Anonymous No.16280350]

>>16280019
Building 34 at Goddard (please put them out of their misery, they took away their scooters)

[Anonymous No.16280355]

>>16280258
>How fleek it is...!

[Anonymous No.16280357]

meteor kino
https://x.com/Astronomiaum/status/1811976197040939379

[Anonymous No.16280384]

speaking of trump, i read that democrat donors are refusing to back biden's re-election and want someone to replace him. if biden gets replaced, are there any potential democrat candidates that would be good for spaceflight? right now i think the top picks are VP harris, the governor of california newsom, and the governor of michigan whitmer.

[Anonymous No.16280389]

>>16280384
none of them would be any different and biden is just gonna call the donors' bluff anyway.

[Anonymous No.16280392]

>>16280109
>what are batteries
this is fucking retarded, probably a VC scam

[Anonymous No.16280393]

>>16280109
Stop it with the retarded ideas and build nuclear powerplants.

[Anonymous No.16280414]

>>16279397
I never saved them so I can't remember if they were around in '14 already, but anyways I remember, yeah, probably wouldn't have seen them on /sci/ back then though.

[Anonymous No.16280416]

Nobody will be wanting tofly on failed con after this disasterous and sad failure. ULAby comparison has a 100% sucess rate.

[Anonymous No.16280417]

>>16280384
No one likes VP, no one likes newsom (california turned to shithole under his rule). Dems have run their politics to the ground by embracing extremist ideology

[Anonymous No.16280427]

>>16279397
I think the most infamous engine rat was on a CRS mission like 2019 or 2020. I remember because it got it's own schizo thread outside of /sfg/.

[Anonymous No.16280429]

>>16280427
I remember that guy, he wasn't even a particularly notable engine rat, somebody just decided to meme it up that day

[Anonymous No.16280430]

>>16279940
I've been kind of expecting a QA/QC issue missing a manufacturing/maintenance issue for a while, but for some reason I'm feeling process change leading to issues like that nozzle cleaning agent clogging thing a while ago on this one. Which would be an qualification testing issue and also fall under QA but a bit different.
Either way it could be any of them

[Anonymous No.16280441]

sars...

[Anonymous No.16280445]

>>16280109
>use solar panels to fight climate change
>but they don't work at night
>I know, lets use orbital mirrors so solar panels work at night too!
>earth does most of it's cooling at night
>orbital mirrors redirect sunlight to the night side thus the earth cools less at night
>this heats up the planet completely defeating the point of using solar panels in the first place
It was never going to go anywhere but can these people think 1 step ahead at least?

[Anonymous No.16280451]

>>16280427

[Anonymous No.16280456]

>>16280445
the point of solar panels is to generate electricity, thats it

[Anonymous No.16280459]

>>16280456
Being unable to perceive subtext doesn't make you smart

[Anonymous No.16280460]

>>16280451
hehe look at the goofy little guys scurry around

[Anonymous No.16280467]

https://x.com/austinbarnard45/status/1812183574759817424
>Rise of the second tower

[Anonymous No.16280471]

>>16280459
the point of solar power is to generate electricity
your conspiracy theories are irrelevant

[Anonymous No.16280473]

>>16280467
Remember when they built the first tower and the FAA started crying and they continued building it anyway? So based

[Anonymous No.16280477]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

crane connected to tower module 2

[Anonymous No.16280478]

>>16280430
If they designed the process well they not only know who touched it last but what state it was in before integration, so they probably aren't going to take long to rule out human causes. I would guess they're combing over the LOX pressure sensors right now looking for a timeline of the leak, and if it happened before or after separation. SpaceX itself points out to customers that separation events are the most common cause of launch failures

[Anonymous No.16280484]

>>16280451
>>16280427
This is the one that you still see on /pol/ and flat earther twitter, of course you won't see any of the newer, high resolution in sunlight webms that clearly show ice behaving in the same manner

Their cognitive dissonance is next level

[Anonymous No.16280486]

>>16279588
fuck that pajeet, retard

[Anonymous No.16280488]

>>16280451
oh shit wtf is a rat doing there?

does anyone know how this happened?

[Anonymous No.16280490]

>>16280484
That's because it's a religion.

[Anonymous No.16280492]

>>16280441

[Anonymous No.16280495]

>>16280467
Which one will have the eye of Sauron?

[Anonymous No.16280501]

>>16280273
No but actually I imagine this happening
>SpaceX HLS Mars lander lands nearby
>elevator drops down
>Curiosity team gets it on
>rides up into Starship
>where a custom bespoke JPL Mars Rover servicing platform awaits
>all automatic controlled but can be manually operated
>attaches all new wheels and swaps out modules, Hubble servicing mission but for a mars rover
>finally dusted and washed
>returns down to the surface to continue its mission

The pictures from the rover alone of Starship and the service bay would be wild, same with a livestream of the servicing from onboard cameras

The future can be so fucking amazing, Curiosity does not have to fall silent on Mars when its wheels give out

[Anonymous No.16280505]

>>16280488
One of the genetically engineered rats chewed it's way out. This explains it's abnormally large size and ability to survive in space.

[Anonymous No.16280506]

>>16280488
they live in the engine

[Anonymous No.16280507]

>>16280501
An expedition must be sent out to retrieve Sojourner and return her safely home.

[Anonymous No.16280508]

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1812198072136683571

torchships when?

[Anonymous No.16280509]

>>16280507
We can retrieve them all

[Anonymous No.16280512]

>>16280508
there's no way nuclear/fusion can adopt the nasa commercial model

[Anonymous No.16280514]

The downgrade of Terran R needs to be studied

[Anonymous No.16280521]

>>16280514
huh, what happened?
are you talking about something more than the proonter abandoning?

[Anonymous No.16280524]

>>16280521
they were originally planning to do reusable upper stage but they abandoned it and the current one doesn't have enough payload to do reusable upper stage and also have payload

[Anonymous No.16280532]

>>16280276
The second stage is xboxhueg diameter and stages early because first stage leg landing. They had to go custom.

[Anonymous No.16280541]

>>16280524
>>16280514
Why study it? Physics rears its ugly head for everyone, and small reusable launch vehicle upper stages inevitably have no payload.

[Anonymous No.16280543]

>>16280541
they only need to target 15 tons to LEO fully reusable

[Anonymous No.16280550]

>>16280543
This inevitably means something dimensionally close to a Space Shuttle in physical scale.

[Anonymous No.16280554]

>>16280550
TSTO instead of booster/sustainer and using methalox or propalox instead of hydrolox will solve your scale issues

a Falcon 9 height vehicle with a 4.5 or 5 meter diameter should manage just fine and be doable on Terran's budget

[Anonymous No.16280555]

>>16280414
you've no idea how the flat earthers use these clips. its terrible.

[Anonymous No.16280557]

>>16280484
>>16280490
it really is. do not feed the animals...or overfeed them, as you will

[Anonymous No.16280560]

>>16280554
I honestly doubt that, recovery hardware for reentry velocities is pretty heavy any way you slice it.

[Anonymous No.16280562]

>>16280560
Falcon 9 height with a 5 meter diameter is larger than the space shuttle

[Anonymous No.16280563]

>>16280562
It's taller than the Space Shuttle, but it's not larger.

[Anonymous No.16280564]

>>16280555
my dad believes every conspiracy theory under the sun except flat earth, and i think that speaks volume

[Anonymous No.16280566]

>>16280562
he's a big guy

>>16280564
it only says that your dad has limits even to his crazy. i applaud this. keeping ones crazy within bounds takes effort

[Anonymous No.16280578]

>>16280566
Flat earth sounds like a psyop.

[Anonymous No.16280580]

>>16280557
really feels like casting pearls before swine when you reply with kino photos/videos and it just completely flies past their smooth brains

[Anonymous No.16280582]

>>16280563
Nah it's larger, look at the picture

[Anonymous No.16280587]

>>16279513
>¡Madre de dios!
>¡Es el Starlinkos Fuegos!

[Anonymous No.16280589]

>>16279397
>super old times
They're still posting them, son.

[Anonymous No.16280590]

when you see it

[Anonymous No.16280593]

One /sfg/ anon walking on his son kissing another boy became my core memory.

[Anonymous No.16280596]

>>16280563
5m has the same width payload bay as the Shuttle, and if you make it not retarded you'll be fine
>>16280590
what are you supposed to see here, spell it out for me

[Anonymous No.16280598]

>>16280590
What am I supposed to see in particular?
The hot gas RCS manifolds?
The relocated RCS vents in the nosecone section?
The new design for the structural reinforcement?
The twin raceway redesign on the ship?

[Anonymous No.16280604]

>>16280593
thats pretty gay

[Anonymous No.16280605]

>>16280596
>5m has the same width payload bay as the Shuttle, and if you make it not retarded you'll be fine
Not sure if gaslighting or you're actually missing the point that badly: the matter of scale in question is the size of the rocket's propellant tanks and thrust profile, along with the added velocity component of each stage.

[Anonymous No.16280606]

>>16280605
yeah, I'm aware
are you in the mood to do some napkin math with me or would I be wasting my time

[Anonymous No.16280609]

>>16280596
>what are you supposed to see here, spell it out for me
it

[Anonymous No.16280614]

>>16280606
I'm open to napkin math, but I think we're reasonably looking at a New Glenn sized vehicle at minimum for a 15 ton to LEO reusable launch vehicle.

[Anonymous No.16280615]

>>16280598
Yes

[Anonymous No.16280621]

>>16280614
yeah
I was thinking about it and I might just hate thinking about the delta v requirements for an RTLS launch vehicle
everything else is easy handwaving

[Anonymous No.16280622]

>>16279321
>crew dragon grounded
>shitliner stranded
>dream chaser delayed
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.16280629]

>>16280295
Want it right do it yourself i get it it.
I fear that the post StarShip world isnt going to have a lot of room consolidation should have started a lot sooner. Stoke needs to figure out how to get on top of New Glen with a stack of OneWeb or they aint going to complete with payed so exist companies. Even with perfect reuse.

[Anonymous No.16280631]

>>16280622
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[Anonymous No.16280633]

>>16280590
I live under a rock, and without even googling I know playboy is a woke progressive corporation now just like all corporations so it's fine, brave and toleratent even to wear a playboy hat at the work place

[Anonymous No.16280635]

>>16280622
>decline of fall of the american empire
Move over, burger, your time is up.

[Anonymous No.16280644]

Estelle Ellis posts a lot of interesting stuff. I'm surprised.

[Anonymous No.16280648]

>>16280644
Who?

[Anonymous No.16280649]

>>16280648
Estelle Ellis

[Anonymous No.16280652]

>>16280622
China will rescue them

[Anonymous No.16280657]

>>16280633
nigga I didn't even see that, I was talking about the new raceway

[Anonymous No.16280663]

Anyone on here have the passcode to the pad 39B elevator?

[Anonymous No.16280666]

>>16280604
Elon loves you anon

[Anonymous No.16280669]

>>16280663
It's in the pastebin

[Anonymous No.16280678]

>>16280648
Voice actress for Krystal
https://x.com/RealKrystalFox

[Anonymous No.16280679]

>>16280678
Not spaceflight related, go back to /v/.

[Anonymous No.16280683]

>>16280679
How do you think she gets from one planet to the other?

[Anonymous No.16280686]

>>16280683
Oh I'm sorry I was to stupid to understand, spaceflight related, you can stay.

[Anonymous No.16280689]

>>16280683
I'm more interested in how she gets from one planet to my bedroom if yoi know what I'm saying.
(I want to fuck her)

[Anonymous No.16280699]

>>16280689
next time quit with the vagueries anon it just wastes other peoples time when they have to figure out what you mean

[Anonymous No.16280700]

>>16280167
this, I remember when I was a kid in the 80s and seeing art/reading about the idea of giant solar power satellites in orbit beaming down power to ground stations and it seemed ridiculous to me even then, and now with several decades of knowledge and experience due to my interest in space the idea seems even more implausible and ridiculous to me, I hope nobody ever gets ahold of taxpayer money to try and make it a reality or god help us it'll make the SLS look like the Hoover Dam by comparison
(here's a much more practical solution for you, just start placing solar panels onto roofs or even better make shingles power generating and incorporate them into every house that gets re-roofed)

[Anonymous No.16280704]

>>16280689
what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.16280706]

>2.5 years
>0 (zero) cool pictures from JWST
wtf are they doing?

[Anonymous No.16280716]

>>16280578
90%+ of flat earth posts on /pol/ are from those, paid or otherwise, trying to discredit ALL information being shared on /pol/

[Anonymous No.16280730]

Trump got shot during a speech. I think ears bleeding, not sure if its fatal or not

[Anonymous No.16280733]

>>16280730
doesn't seem fatal

[Anonymous No.16280735]

[Anonymous No.16280737]

>>16280706
JWST is infrared, never going to give pics like Hubble, and NASA doesn't want Isacman/Spacex to service/boost Hubble

[Anonymous No.16280738]

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1812250005987844593

[Anonymous No.16280740]

>>16280738
Crazy fucking shit. Future of spaceflight and humanity itself is at risk.

[Anonymous No.16280741]

>>16280414

[Anonymous No.16280745]

>>16280738
must've been a deranged earther

[Anonymous No.16280747]

[Anonymous No.16280748]

>>16280747
Its over. If he survives this, he 100% wins this election. The current one is too corrupt

[Anonymous No.16280749]

Imagine the shitshow if Musk got shot

[Anonymous No.16280750]

>>16280749
He's probably next on the chopping block. He has even less security and they think he's Hitler 2.0 after Trump.

[Anonymous No.16280752]

>>16280749
Musk needs to triple his security and stop doing public events for the time being

[Anonymous No.16280753]

Staged?

[Anonymous No.16280756]

>>16280753
no, we're still on page 3

[Anonymous No.16280758]

So what is going to change with President Trump's space policy, do you think? More ambitious or same as last time? I think nuclear is going to get more attention this time around.

Elon just fully endorsed Trump btw.

[Anonymous No.16280759]

>>16280749
Musk surely has some Iron Man security protocol, right?

[Anonymous No.16280760]

>>16280758
Nuclear rockets and a Man on mars by the decade is out

[Anonymous No.16280761]

>>16280758
>Elon just fully endorsed Trump btw
Anyone who doesn't isn't an American now.

[Anonymous No.16280762]

this autist truly is mentally ill

I am now officially a SpaceX hater

[Anonymous No.16280763]

[Anonymous No.16280764]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1812256998588662068

[Anonymous No.16280771]

>>16280759
Mere bullets can't penetrate his telekinetic autism force field

[Anonymous No.16280774]

>>16280753
No unless it's a false flag false flag. Before today trump was nearly guaranteed to win and he's had heat on him for years. There's no reason to risk it all on a stunt like this. If it's staged it's staged to frame trump for a false flag on himself, which would actually be a good idea for the opposition.

[Anonymous No.16280777]

>>16280761
>>16280762
>>16280764
Musk is securing his federal funding for the next term.

[Anonymous No.16280779]

>>16280764
>>16280762
>>16280761
>nearly half a million likes
Starship will launch 10 times in November alone

[Anonymous No.16280780]

>>16280764
Why would you time your endorsement to this. It comes out well if the shooter is a marxist or some illegal who was due to be deported etc. If it is some loony who thought Trump made a pact with the forces of Satan, you'll look like someone easily swayed by emotions.

[Anonymous No.16280783]

hope Trump whips space Force into shape

[Anonymous No.16280784]

>>16280780
he already donated previously, now is as good time as any
doesn't matter if its some insane lone wolf antifa

[Anonymous No.16280787]

>>16280779

[Anonymous No.16280788]

>>16280758
He might tell them to make sure Artemis happens by 2028, otherwise I don't see much change. But as someone pointed out last time it really depends, he could randomly find something he sees as really important or just not care at all. Pence also seemed to be the main driver behind all the space stuff so it could also depend on who'd be VP.

[Anonymous No.16280789]

>>16280762
>I am now officially against the continued existence of our species

[Anonymous No.16280790]

>>16280789
Who are you quoting? Go see a medical professional, please.

[Anonymous No.16280792]

>>16280789
>seething this hard
kek dilate

[Anonymous No.16280793]

>>16280788
pence was just made the public face of space policy so it could look like he was doing something. that happens a lot for VPs. you can see how much interest he actually had in spaceflight from how much he's talked about it since leaving office, which is to say basically none.

[Anonymous No.16280795]

>>16280738
>>16280747
It would be funny if he lost again.

[Anonymous No.16280796]

>>16280758
First manned mission to mars during the 2028 transfer window, right after the olympics are held here, all eyes on America for an entire year

[Anonymous No.16280797]

Biden wasn't a bad space president in the end but Trump has the Midas touch

[Anonymous No.16280798]

>>16280797
Trump wanted a rushed Artemis landing so he could attach his name to it (so it received priority attention to happen faster despite sheisty cost plus contracting).
Biden helped make it more sustainable by (thankfully) keeping it online with longer-term goals.

I think we got the best of both worlds here.

[Anonymous No.16280799]

>>16280797
Artemis is a mess because of him. NASA got unrealistic timelines but was refused to get proper funding,

[Anonymous No.16280801]

>>16280797
>Biden wasn't a bad space president
>attacked Elon with regulatory action and lawsuits from multiple federal agencies
did your mother have any children that lived?

[Anonymous No.16280803]

>>16280801
He did keep most, if not all, of Trump's policies. We got lucky.

Not that anon, btw.

[Anonymous No.16280805]

>>16280799
NASA had its highest funding in forever under trump

[Anonymous No.16280807]

>>16280793
You could say the same for Bridenstine and believing in proper competitive processes.

>>16280801
>implying Biden has anything to do with those and not Elon playing hard and fast with the rules (thus moving quickly but increasing the risk of stuff like those)
Several of those actions were started under Trump even. Biden hardly remembers his own name, he's not thinking about Musk at all.

[Anonymous No.16280808]

>>16280805
>highest funding in forever
It was barely increased to keep up with the inflation.

[Anonymous No.16280809]

>>16280805
Nice, but doesn't help if it all goes to SLS and the other parts still get less than necessary, just like with commercial crew underfunding leading to eternal delays.

[Anonymous No.16280810]

>>16280797
he spent enough money on his rural internet plan to buy every household in the US a starlink terminal
how many people were connected to the internet again?

[Anonymous No.16280811]

>>16280809
If they really want to go with SLS, a higher funding would allow for higher cadence. What we have now is a joke, a shitty rocket that is launched once every 2 years.

[Anonymous No.16280814]

>>16280807
>implying Biden has anything to do with those
>Biden hardly remembers his own name
no one is claiming that the policies under Biden as president were his idea, but those policies are a result of him being president
don't pretend you're retarded

[Anonymous No.16280817]

>>16280811
>a higher funding would allow for higher cadence

Lol lmao even

[Anonymous No.16280818]

>>16280789
What species is that?

[Anonymous No.16280822]

>>16280817
I know that Boeing is corrupt but a proper administration would force them to increase the pace.

[Anonymous No.16280826]

>>16280811
Still not enough funding for that

>>16280814
They aren't, though. They're based on decades-old laws being invoked, again, there's investigations that started when Trump was still in office. Maybe if Trump were to dismantle regulations in a second term they'd be less likely to happen.
Also semi-related but there's a chance the chevron defense ruling just leads to more drawn-out lawsuits, if courts can't just defer to lead agencies saying "yup, this EIS complies with NEPA" anymore it's gonna get real annoying. People don't realise what a shitshow is waiting to happen here.

[Anonymous No.16280831]

>>16280780
I thought knowledge that elon donated to trump was pretty old

[Anonymous No.16280836]

>>16280826
Another example, take the Blue Origin HLS challenges, NASA/SpaceX basically won because the court asked NASA if they did their selection fairly on the technical merits in accordance with their rules and NASA said yes. If the court actually had to verify that itself or god forbid a jury it'd probably have taken at least twice as long.

>>16280831
He's denied it in the past.

[Anonymous No.16280840]

>>16280826
>not pretending
cheers

[Anonymous No.16280846]

[Anonymous No.16280848]

>>16280826
>They're based on decades-old laws being invoked
a republican DOJ would never have started civil rights lawsuits against spacex and tesla and you know that.

[Anonymous No.16280849]

Anyway, what's the Saarliner status?

[Anonymous No.16280850]

>>16280846
Yep. Elon better secure himself

[Anonymous No.16280851]

>>16280109
absolutely never will be economical

[Anonymous No.16280852]

>>16280846
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1812281822887469104

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1812283045069861085

[Anonymous No.16280854]

>>16280852
Why is that SEA monkey so obsessed with American politics?

[Anonymous No.16280855]

>>16280846
Wait kek do you guys remember that schizo guy who live-streamed and crawled up to Musk’s front door over the course of like 2 hours?

[Anonymous No.16280858]

>>16280854
its a grift

[Anonymous No.16280859]

>>16280840
>no argument
same to you

>>16280846
There's a joke here about moving to Texas and being surprised they have more guns

>>16280848
That SpaceX one was the specific investigation that was started when Trump was still in office though lol
Sorry, I'll stop now

>>16280855
lmao what

[Anonymous No.16280860]

>>16280859
Holy shit, that damage is horrible.
They will have to replace all those rocks.

[Anonymous No.16280861]

>>16280855
yep I remember. what a wacky YouTube channel that was. he had a massive anti-feminism angle too

[Anonymous No.16280862]

>>16280860
This was years ago and that's what it's there for.

[Anonymous No.16280863]

Holy shit, they killed the ULA sniper

[Anonymous No.16280874]

>>16280836
>He's denied it in the past.
He didn't want to put a thumb on the scale a year prior, then later earlier on the year, said the same thing. But I think given the current trajectory, the felony charges against trump, the attempts to bankrupt trump, the debate shit, the assassination attempt, on both trump/musk, etc, Musk prob felt like he had no choice but to correct the balance of power/abuse.

[Anonymous No.16280881]

>>16280818
Furries

[Anonymous No.16280904]

It seems Elon is no longer hiding his power level.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1812296672510111853

[Anonymous No.16280914]

>>16280109
>space mirrors to power solar panels at night
Fucking retarded.

If you want to get around the problem of solar not working at night then the solution is to build more solar than you actually need and use the excess supply to power a storage device for use at night. Some places are looking at pumped storage hydro, you can fill the reservoir during the day and then release the water at night.

One of the more interesting and unproven proposals is being built in South Australia: hydrogen power. The power grid there is turbo-fucked because solar supply is far in excess of needs during the day, but then drops off totally at night. The plan is to build a giant electrolyser that can use the excess solar to create and store hydrogen to power a 200mw plant that will provide on-demand baseline stability to the grid.

[Anonymous No.16280922]

>>16280914
I'm from Australia. It will be 20 years late, 5x over budget and have catastrophic issues that prevent it from performing even close to the advertised capacity.

[Anonymous No.16280923]

>>16280859
I'm not the only one who thinks that looks like a skid mark right?

[Anonymous No.16280924]

>>16280922
my condolences

[Anonymous No.16280943]

why don't we have cables that go from one side of the planet to the other (from east to west), so that electricity produced at day at one side can be used at night at the other side?!

[Anonymous No.16280945]

>>16280943
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_power_transmission#Losses

[Anonymous No.16280948]

>>16280945
just make the wires out of lk99

[Anonymous No.16280961]

Original idea do not steal
Cargo ships filled with batteries for delivering electricity to places without sunlight.

[Anonymous No.16280964]

>>16280943
Even ignoring losses and you had superconductors, absolutely fucking no one wants to rely on their nations electricity coming from other parts of the globe that might shut it off for sanctions or some other actor deletes the cable.

[Anonymous No.16280965]

>>16280961
I'll take your idea and improve it:
electric planes instead of cargo ships (which would take months to ship) or cables
please do not patent before I do. thanks.

[Anonymous No.16280970]

>>16280964
>absolutely fucking no one wants to rely on their nations electricity coming from other parts of the globe that might shut it off for sanctions or some other actor deletes the cable
is this sarcasm? we do this with basically every other form of energy

[Anonymous No.16280971]

>>16280965
You can patent that one friend, I've had an even better idea. E2E Starship carrying megapacks.

[Anonymous No.16280972]

>>16280970
>we do this with basically every other form of energy

And look how that's going, it's in your own picture you posted

[Anonymous No.16280975]

>>16280972
yeah, it's like half the wars post wwii, and yet we just keep doing it. I see no reason why political tensions with your neighbor would stop you running a power cord to them.

[Anonymous No.16280978]

>>16280922
>>16280914
just build batteries
that's what they're already doing and it's working great

[Anonymous No.16280984]

It was suppose to be about Spaceflight, But fags are fagging up this thread.

[Anonymous No.16280986]

>>16280971
>E2E Starship carrying megapacks.
fuck. you win

>>16280984
>It was suppose to be about Spaceflight
this is the Elon Musk general.

[Anonymous No.16280987]

>>16280984
Elon is posting about Trump, asshole.
Get with the program.
The only spaceflight worth mentioning that doesn't involve those two is Chinese, and you don't speak Chinese do you?

[Anonymous No.16280999]

>>16280984
nignog post. The president just had an assassination attempt on his life and survived. One of the most historical events just took place today that even has a tie in with Elon with his donations and support after the fact. What the fuck do you think anon's are going to talk about in a thread where said Elon is talked about all the fucking time?

[Anonymous No.16281007]

>>16280978
There is no battery technology in existence that could power an entire grid through the night. The point of big batteries (like the Hornsdale battery near Jamestown, which I assume is the one you're thinking of) is to help cushion the grid against sudden fluctuations that can occur if you don't have a reliable baseline, which is what happened in South Australia quite frequently before the battery was built. There used to be frequent load-shedding blackouts here, culminating in the whole state losing power for a day back in 2016 when the interconnector to Victoria was knocked out in a storm. The battery gives the grid operator half an hour of breathing space in which to stabilise the grid and bring other power sources online, this lack of breathing space in 2016 caused the whole grid to fall over and made it extremely difficult to bring on any backups.

[Anonymous No.16281009]

>>16281007
Aussiefag? I watched a random youtube video the other day of an Aussie shooting like 50 Camels with violent intent with a pump action AR15. Do you guys actually have a Camel problem?

[Anonymous No.16281011]

>>16281009
Yes. Feral camels are a serious problem in the outback, they erase the vegetation and consume limited water resources.

[Anonymous No.16281013]

>>16281009
Yeah they are out of control in the outback. Perfect conditions for them and no people around. They don't even take the corpses away for meat because transport is too expensive.

[Anonymous No.16281014]

Feral Martian species when?

[Anonymous No.16281022]

>>16280852
Ian miles chingchong, intellectual giant of our time

[Anonymous No.16281026]

I hate post 2020 musk. everything went to shit.
just would like to put my opinion out there, I know it isn't the one probably widely shared here on /sfg/.
Does his 'change' influence the success/future of spacex? I don't know. Probably.

[Anonymous No.16281027]

>>16281026
I'm sorry anon, was Musk your friend that you knew in real life and you too just went your separate ways? Jesus Christ man.

[Anonymous No.16281028]

>>16281026
Musk is literally better than ever you dumb faggot

[Anonymous No.16281029]

>>16281027
I'm allowed to have an opinion, it should be just as cringe as saying you like/agree with what he tweets.

[Anonymous No.16281031]

>>16281029
Elon could literally kill my father, rape my sister and mother, drown my dog. He could dwstroy my career and burn my home to the ground. Fuck and impregnate my girlfriend (if I had one). All while I watch in horror, but still I would support him at the end of the day. Anything that gets us closer to Mars and I mean it. I dont think anyone here can really comprehend perfect devotion

[Anonymous No.16281033]

>>16281031
oh I agree to an extent, the Big Picture is more important, but I still have my scruples.

[Anonymous No.16281035]

>>16281026
SpaceX has done nothing but skyrocket in success since the ‘numusk’ era started. NASA has repeatedly been asked–directly–about Musk’s antics, then they go ahead and award HLS, gateway resupply, extra crew missions, ISS deorbit, etc. to them. As long as they keep holding this bar they will dominate.
Who even is their biggest threat at this point?
Perhaps Blue and ULA—but only because the government wants second options and is willing to fund exponentially more retarded options

[Anonymous No.16281052]

>>16281035
heh. skyrocket

[Anonymous No.16281056]

>>16281026
>post 2020
>everything went to shit.
almost like Elon realized "the adults in the room" are malicious retards and an existential threat to civilization and being a multiplanet species

[Anonymous No.16281062]

>>16281022
>>16280854

[Anonymous No.16281077]

>>16281026
MDS

[Anonymous No.16281079]

>>16281077
yes, I admit it. Doesn't mean my reasons are faulty

[Anonymous No.16281080]

>>16281079
Nah. But when he was a pretend leftist during the obama era you clapped like the rest

[Anonymous No.16281102]

>>16281079
>Doesn't mean my reasons are faulty
"Derangement" implies a fault in reasoning

[Anonymous No.16281109]

>>16281079
It does, actually. Obsessing over someone who hasn't done anything to you, because you don't like what you see them doing - or more likely, feeling self-conscious about how other people are seeing that person and reacting to it by turning it around and being obsessively angry at him the second he steps out of the bounds of acceptability between you and your peers, is pretty faulty.

[Anonymous No.16281112]

hey, guess what.

I STILL don't care about politics.

[Anonymous No.16281119]

>>16281112
Politics cares about you. Enjoy the speed limiter in your vehicle. Oh and troon out your kids

[Anonymous No.16281123]

what spaceflight looks like without spacex
lets hope the chinese megaconstellation going up next month gives us alot of launches

[Anonymous No.16281132]

>>16281123
I take back everything I said about boring f9 launches pls give them back aaaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.16281133]

>>16281119
I'm rich enough to simply move if politics becomes a problem for me. It's literally that easy.

[Anonymous No.16281134]

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCYo3UuU5TA
video from inside the axiom factory, looking at the building of their station

[Anonymous No.16281135]

>>16281134
>nasa's water reclamation system on the ISS costs $14 million
>axiom's version costs $100k
oof

[Anonymous No.16281137]

>>16281135
to be fair, the ISS one was probably designed in like 2004?

[Anonymous No.16281143]

>>16281134
>cancer cells grow faster in microgravity than on earth
>so its easier to grow them for faster drug testing
looks like we might have a killer app aside from space tourism

[Anonymous No.16281146]

[Anonymous No.16281157]

>>16281134
Aren't they waiting for the Thales Alenia build to finish? These look like pathfinders

[Anonymous No.16281163]

>>16280914
>just generate MORE electricity than you use, via solar, during the DAY, so that the unused portion, stored in BATTERIES, is available for use at NIGHT
sorry anon your idea is too simple and too practical for the great minds on here to even be able to perceive

[Anonymous No.16281175]

>>16281163
Because it's not practical without batteries that are at least an order of magnitude cheaper than what is available.

[Anonymous No.16281184]

>>16280451
why is it sliding around that spiral tube. What's flowing withing that spiral tube?

[Anonymous No.16281188]

>>16281184
space rat

[Anonymous No.16281191]

>>16280716
Normally I'd call you a shizo, but flat earth is so fucking stupid that I totally believe that 90% of flatearthers are paid actors.

[Anonymous No.16281193]

>>16280922
that's only your particular Australian pumped hydro project which everyone could tell you from the beginning probably isn't economical. Switzerland has been using pumped hydro storage for a hundred years. America has some great pumped hydro potential too but they don't wanna do it.

[Anonymous No.16281196]

>>16280622
You forgot
>Europa Clipper delayed

[Anonymous No.16281198]

>>16280975
>>16280970
It's profitable for both sides and not doing it is risking falling behind.

[Anonymous No.16281199]

Starship is going to launch before Falcon 9, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.16281200]

>>16280849
Still not stranded (it's totally stranded)

[Anonymous No.16281203]

>>16281143
Sending cancer patients to space so they die quicker?

[Anonymous No.16281208]

>>16281203
no you grow the stem cells in a test tube

[Anonymous No.16281209]

>>16281184
rrat

[Anonymous No.16281214]

>>16281143
More like
>space radiation kills cancer cells
>send up people with cancer for rehab
>eventually only people with cancer can go and explore space

[Anonymous No.16281220]

Elon's Mars dream was come close within 2cm of dead.

[Anonymous No.16281261]

>>16281220
Ehhh, it's happening either way.

[Anonymous No.16281262]

dongfang hour thinks china is targeting 2029 for boots on the moon. i think berger said 2028 is possible. i wonder if they'll try to avoid beating artemis to a landing because they dont want to be seen as trying to race against america. china knows they cant beat spacex in the short term, so a race against elon would be financially ruinous to the country.

[Anonymous No.16281266]

>>16281261
Not a guarantee. Money is one thing, but he needs to launch from Earth and the government decides how often. With their current proposed launch rate we're talking about only 3-4 ships to Mars in a year and they need hundreds per window for a city. Though I guess Musk could go start another rocket company in China, they'd probably be happy to get out of his way

[Anonymous No.16281282]

>>16281184
>why is it sliding around that spiral tube
rraaat
>what's flowing within that spiral tube
exhaust

[Anonymous No.16281283]

>>16280451
How big would that engine rat be anyway?

[Anonymous No.16281286]

>>16281283
large rat sized

[Anonymous No.16281288]

>>16281283
about as big as you'd think

[Anonymous No.16281290]

>>16281283
>>16281286
>>16281288
and the vacuum engine

[Anonymous No.16281292]

The most correct engineering solution for engine rats is engine cats

[Anonymous No.16281293]

>>16281133
What country is becoming whiter yoy?

[Anonymous No.16281300]

>>16281026
I predicted how a Biden president would bring disaster upon everything Musk months before. I was right. Biden targeted all of his companies and you're expecting Musk to sit there and do nothing?

This isn't Musk being unreasonable. Its the current admin being completely out of touch and sabotaging everything Musk has done in his entire life.

[Anonymous No.16281301]

>>16281293
America! Many people of Spanish (Spain is in Europe) descent coming in

[Anonymous No.16281304]

>>16281300
What's really bonkers is the electric cars and internet for poor people was actually in line with the administration's goals. Why were they so opposed? Biden starlink would've actually gotten him some rural voters. I actually don't understand. Any Americans want to explain?

[Anonymous No.16281306]

>>16281262
>, so a race against elon would be financially ruinous to the country.
Not really, China can just copy SpaceX (which they're doing) while Elon Musk can just cope and seethe.

[Anonymous No.16281307]

>>16281304
They wanted electric cars and internet for the poor right up until someone actually came up with a profitable way to do those things.
It was never about providing those things, it was about using those things as an excuse to control others. Also, showing that we don't need the government for progress is really bad for them.

[Anonymous No.16281308]

>>16281304
Left wing has a strong marxist current in the US right now. Identity politics is embedded in the left wing.

[Anonymous No.16281310]

>>16280904
>Starship leadership must resign
Bold move

[Anonymous No.16281313]

>>16280904
America remade the Schutzstaffel?

[Anonymous No.16281319]

>>16281304
anon, solving problems runs counter to the administration's goals because if they solve problems then they can't grift off of them any more

[Anonymous No.16281321]

>>16281313
secret service but yeah
quote this song on twitter and see how fast they show up at your door
https://youtu.be/n6qFLq44Fos

[Anonymous No.16281326]

>>16281319
That's the problem with midwits, they can't comprehend why someone would promise something and then not do it.
It's because if they did it, then they would have to find something new to promise!

[Anonymous No.16281327]

>>16280904
Why is he baiting with the acronym? Surely he knows

[Anonymous No.16281335]

>>16280904
>Trump asks Pelosi for national guard on Jan 6 (because he isn't allowed to call them on his own)
>"no, fuck you"
>bad shit happens that they blame on Trump

>Trump needs protection from crazy people with guns
>SS is currently run by former Pepsico security bitch
>SS fails to cover adjacent property with good view of stage
>people in the audience could see shooter sneaking around minutes before the shooting
>only alive because he turned his head at the right moment
at least the close-in SS guys were on the ball

[Anonymous No.16281339]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKExuKk32_o
>Booster 12 Conducts First Super Heavy Spin Prime Since Booster 9 | SpaceX Boca Chica

[Anonymous No.16281352]

[Anonymous No.16281356]

>>16281335
>at least the close-in SS guys were on the ball

The useless cunt on the roof above trump was sat there eyefucking the dude through his scope and didn't do shit until the faggot opened up, that's pretty fucking not "on the ball"

[Anonymous No.16281359]

the ULA sniper wasn't this sloppy.

[Anonymous No.16281367]

>>16281359
Idk they must have laid him off recently, too many starships have got off the pad

[Anonymous No.16281374]

>>16281335
spaceflight?

[Anonymous No.16281376]

>>16281199
Yes

[Anonymous No.16281377]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjvnQwTpSYA

[Anonymous No.16281378]

>>16281377
this nigga needs some meds

[Anonymous No.16281418]

>>16281377
not watching, qrd?

[Anonymous No.16281421]

HE IS ARISEN

[Anonymous No.16281422]

>>16281421
is this v2?

[Anonymous No.16281424]

>>16281422
Yep

[Anonymous No.16281425]

>>16281424
...but not the next one in line for lunch right

[Anonymous No.16281430]

>>16281425
No, IFT-5 will use ship 30 and booster 12

[Anonymous No.16281431]

>>16281430
is v2 the one with an actual payload, 50+ tons?

[Anonymous No.16281434]

>>16281421
Why the flap change?

[Anonymous No.16281435]

>>16281434
moved out of the hot plasma slightly iirc

[Anonymous No.16281440]

Ariane 6 is just as successful as Falcon 9 now

[Anonymous No.16281442]

>>16281421

[Anonymous No.16281443]

>>16281442

[Anonymous No.16281444]

>>16281442
smaller forward protective hinger area?

[Anonymous No.16281446]

>>16281442
MAAN

[Anonymous No.16281448]

>>16281443
>>16281442
forward flap cam views will be worse now sadly

[Anonymous No.16281449]

>>16281421
https://x.com/Ringwatchers/status/1812511436184359169

>>16281442
https://x.com/Ringwatchers/status/1812516540450787569

[Anonymous No.16281451]

>>16281431
Dunno, We'd probably see a cargo flight with starlinks after they fix the door and install a test dispenser
>>16281444
Looks like it, the test data probably showed they could slim down the TPS there
>>16281443
The welds are looking even better

[Anonymous No.16281453]

>>16281444
the hinges are also farther out of the airflow

[Anonymous No.16281458]

>>16281421
>>16281442
Why do the flaps look so thin and faggy? They're like little crackers that'll snap if you pick them up wrong.

[Anonymous No.16281460]

>>16281458
because they are only needed during the free fall and make Starship harder to control during reentry if they are too large by pushing the nose back making it easier to slide ass first

[Anonymous No.16281462]

>>16281458
are you forgetting the flight 4 incredible flap survival story

[Anonymous No.16281467]

>>16281458
big flap heavy
small flap light
flap mass becomes payload mass

[Anonymous No.16281481]

>>16281443
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1812519571166826745

[Anonymous No.16281499]

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1812524806568329555
>Starship 33 it is!
>7/14/24

[Anonymous No.16281514]

Does anyone have that pic of the Dynetics lander crying because she’s fat?

[Anonymous No.16281521]

>>16281175
>le order of magnitude
OK sure, genius, then store hydrogen, store compressed air, store flywheel momentum, store water up high, store etc etc etc even you get it right?

[Anonymous No.16281525]

>>16281191
like I said, it is absolutely imperative to certain groups that the information shared on /pol/ is discredited

[Anonymous No.16281527]

>>16281499
reserved for upcoming depot test article SN33D

[Anonymous No.16281536]

>>16280914
There's a British company proposing doing that and burning the hydrogen to drive steam turbines, rather than relying on fuel cells.

[Anonymous No.16281544]

>>16280678
It's a shame kystral posting died out on /sfg/. I enjoyed my coomer break from space and politics every now and then

[Anonymous No.16281547]

>>16281544
getting banned for it constantly gets tiring, even if you hide them in pdfs

[Anonymous No.16281572]

>>16281421
I hope they add the giant cockpit window when Block 3 arrives. Or at least a pathfinder for them. It would be nice to see any internal developments to the ship at all now that we know they have solved reentry.

>>16281448
Knowing Elon, he will eventually move the cameras someplace more exciting. The important thing is we will be able to watch the landing now because the canard placement is no longer a clusterfuck and won't cover the screens with debris

[Anonymous No.16281580]

>>16281288
That's the faggot that fucked up the quality control isn't it.

[Anonymous No.16281588]

>>16281580
That's an ancient Merlin, the guy probably doesn't even work at SpaceX anymore and probably hasn't for years.

[Anonymous No.16281606]

Youre not allowed to say the nigger word on Mars.

[Anonymous No.16281612]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXUmqqboPXc
> AT LAST!! First Module of Tower 2 Gets Stacked! - SpaceX Weekly #123

[Anonymous No.16281614]

>>16281606
simply untrue

[Anonymous No.16281619]

>>16281614
no its true, you'll get thrown into the cuck hole if you do

[Anonymous No.16281632]

>>16281440
paizuri

[Anonymous No.16281637]

>>16281572
dear moon got cancelled so it'll probably be a long time before any attempt at a cool window is made. You'll have to settle for the hls windows

[Anonymous No.16281641]

>>16281442

[Anonymous No.16281646]

https://x.com/Greg_sbf/status/1812512513210101949

New OLM hold down arm hardware spotted

[Anonymous No.16281682]

>>16281606
Nigger

Posted from teslaphone Marslink

[Anonymous No.16281684]

>>16281682
Not real

[Anonymous No.16281687]

>>16281646
Looks... flimsy

[Anonymous No.16281698]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsig3_e3CXw&t=306

[Anonymous No.16281699]

>>16281440
have the other one sbarky drew?

[Anonymous No.16281701]

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/south-texas/article/spacex-starship-fifth-launch-19569427.php
>“If SpaceX decides to change the mission profile or make other changes that affect the safety analyses, it will need to request a license modification,” an FAA spokesman told MySA via email on Thursday, July 11.
>"When the FAA reviews an application for a new or modified commercial space license, we will evaluate as appropriate policy, payload, safety, financial responsibility, and environmental impacts," an FAA spokesman told MySA via email on Friday, July 12.

[Anonymous No.16281705]

>>16281521
>hydromeme

Embrittlement leading to replacement of all parts regularly leakage and massive explosions. You're on /sfg/ shut the fuck about hydromeme nigger.

>Compressed air

Worse cost effectiveness and efficiency than batteries, companies have been working on this for quite some time with nothing to show beyond meme demonstrators that suck.

>flywheels

Same boat as compressed air except you are also adding a spinning flywheel that deletes the local primary school when it fails.

>pumped hydro

Only realistic option and is heavily location dependant. Need very high head and somewhere you can flood without envirotards seething.

[Anonymous No.16281726]

>>16281701
aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH EVERY FUCKING TIME

No launch till late August at minimum

[Anonymous No.16281735]

>>16281701
>make other changes that affect the safety analysis

Sorry goyi-I mean Elon, you moved those flaps on the vehicle, reapply for the loicence

[Anonymous No.16281740]

>>16281701
Its a fucking standard boiler plate response

[Anonymous No.16281752]

>>16281740
It's boiler plate but enough changes in the vehicle will make them do another safety review. Just flying the same mission profile isn't enough and they are changing the vehicle a lot. I assume they need another fucking loicence for the booster catch anyway so it's over.

[Anonymous No.16281774]

Hey guys, I've been camping for like three days, did I miss anything?

[Anonymous No.16281777]

>>16281701
This is the same organization that let the new 737 fly after changing a bunch of stuff (killing hundreds). SpaceX needs to start lobbying like Boeing, God damn

[Anonymous No.16281778]

[Anonymous No.16281779]

>>16281777
They really do. Elon seems to have some kind of cringe opinions about bribing politicians, he needs to fill some pockets to get things running smoothly. How does he tolerate all this bullshit when a couple of million dollars would clean it up overnight.

[Anonymous No.16281798]

>>16281705
All non-airbreathing forms of energy storage sucks when atmospheric O2's double bond is sitting right there for the taking.

[Anonymous No.16281804]

>>16281752
Its a boiler plate thats been put out since day 1. Stop being a retard.

[Anonymous No.16281808]

>>16281774
yeah

[Anonymous No.16281809]

>>16281778
sorry, no gay fanfiction please

[Anonymous No.16281810]

>>16281808
kek

[Anonymous No.16281811]

>>16281779
easier to shoot them than bribe them

[Anonymous No.16281812]

>>16281778
Never post that middle one again.

[Anonymous No.16281815]

>>16281811
Cheaper in the long term but annihilating the federal government is a pretty expensive short term endeavour.

[Anonymous No.16281820]

>>16281815
you only need to assassinate two or three before they start to get the message
seems to be working for Boeing

[Anonymous No.16281824]

>>16281820
Boeing doesn't assassinate government officials though. The use carrot and stick method. Carrot for government and stick for whistleblowers.

[Anonymous No.16281881]

slow day on /sfg/

[Anonymous No.16281884]

>>16281881
They killed Falcon 9

[Anonymous No.16281885]

>>16281884
is it grounded? Does this mean Starship is currently the only active SpaceX rocket?

[Anonymous No.16281890]

shartliner

[Anonymous No.16281891]

>>16281779
>he needs to fill some pockets to get things running smoothly
high-trust "no bribe demanded nor provided" White society was the best, it's what we need to return to, not bend to other's ways

[Anonymous No.16281894]

>>16281778
I know they finally got Falcon Heavy to work but are they sure they want to go though the pain of getting all those cross-connects to work?

[Anonymous No.16281896]

>>16281891
>high-trust "no bribe demanded nor provided" White society was the best

When has this EVER been the case??? Serious question. People in power have been open to bribes since written history began, even when there serious penalties for corruption they would just find ingenious methods around it.

[Anonymous No.16281898]

>>16281896
>>16281891
Never been the case

[Anonymous No.16281902]

>>16281894
its gonna be kino

[Anonymous No.16281913]

>>16281896
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case in iceland from time to time. not very familiar with their modern political history though.

[Anonymous No.16281926]

>>16281891
Doesn't happen, has never happened. Even in high-trust societies, there are psychopaths, and psychopaths filter to the top or to prison depending on their IQ.
The flaw in human politics is genetic—no governing system is really robust to a creature who simultaneously understands how to exploit emotions but can choose not to feel them.

[Anonymous No.16281928]

>>16281885
yes lol

[Anonymous No.16281930]

>>16281891
That's why he's endorsed Trump.

[Anonymous No.16281940]

Baking, one moment please.

[Anonymous No.16281942]

STAGING

>>16281941
>>16281941
>>16281941
>>16281941
>>16281941

[Anonymous No.16281983]

>>16281440
Undress right now and I will breed your Euro pussy.