/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.1621310]

So if the Soviet Dead hand system was activated this very moment (including the time the projectiles took to hit their targets) how long would:

a) we have to live
b)before most/all life on earth was extinguished
c) Before the surface of the earth is unable to sustain life.

Discuss

[Anonymous No.1621337]

bump

[Anonymous No.1621340]

>my face when The Dead Hand is still fucking active

WHAT THE FUCK RUSSIA, TURN THAT SHIT OFF

[Anonymous No.1621347]

>>1621340
they... can't turn it off....

[Anonymous No.1621353]

>>1621347
WHY NOT!?!?!!?!

[Veigar guy !iEY2rcdvh6 No.1621355]

ead Hand (Russian: Система Периметр, Systema Perimetr)[1] (known also as Perimeter,[2] and Hand from Coffin) is purportedly a Cold-War-era nuclear-control system used by the Soviet Union and in use in Russia. An example of fail-deadly deterrence, it purportedly can automatically trigger the launch of the Russian ICBMs if a nuclear strike is detected by seismic, light, radioactivity and overpressure sensors. By most accounts, it is normally switched off and is supposed to be activated during dangerous crises only.

[Anonymous No.1621358]

a. 15 minutes
2. if just humans, couple hours. ALL life, 3 weeks, though there would be survivors still
3. 3 months

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621360]

>>1621353
It was designed specifically so it cannot be turned off.

Dead hand.

[Anonymous No.1621361]

YEEEE HAWWWWW

[Anonymous No.1621364]

How deep underground would you have to go to survive?

[Anonymous No.1621371]

YEEEE HAWWWWW

[Anonymous No.1621372]

>>1621364
To avoid the initial blast? Depends how close the closest missile was. Best bet would be a few hundred feet. Inside of a thick lead bunker.

Also, your fucked if you expect to live under ground for extended periods of time

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621376]

>>1621364
Kilometers.
And you probably would still die after a while from contaminated water and air seeping down.

Why the fuck haven't we started terraforming Mars? Surely the USA would love to say HEY FUCKERS WE HAVE AN ENTIRE PLANET to everyone else?

[Anonymous No.1621384]

>>1621372
How long would you need to stay underground though?

[Anonymous No.1621386]

>>1621376

Because despite the efforts of many science fiction writers, and the likes of the many pop scientists, terrforming is actually an immensely time and resource consuming process. Not to mention being excedingly complicated.

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621394]

>>1621384
Several centuries. The Chernobyl reactor site won't be completely safe until 22000AD.
No, that isn't a typo digit. Twenty thousand years.

[Anonymous No.1621395]

>>1621376
We already own the moon

[Anonymous No.1621396]

>>1621394

>> Implying completely safe is normal backgound radiation levels.

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621397]

>>1621386
>terrforming is actually an immensely time and resource consuming process
[citation needed]
>Not to mention being excedingly complicated.
I don't doubt this.

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621398]

>>1621396
http://www.futuretimeline.net/beyond.htm#chernobyl

[Anonymous No.1621399]

>>1621394
So how are there people living in Hiroshima today?

[Anonymous No.1621400]

>>1621397

Are you a fucking idiot?

You need a citation to see that terrforming an entire planet to the current atmospheric state of the Earth is a time consuming and resource heavy process?

You're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.1621402]

>>1621394

Chernobyl was a reactor blowing up

The Dead hand system is rape.

i imagine it to be more that a few centurys.

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621403]

>>1621399
Because radiation doesn't like to hang around in one spot. However, if nearly everywhere suddenly became irradiated.... It's the same principal of letting two tons of mustard gas in a tent and then thinking it'll kill some people fifty miles away.

[Anonymous No.1621404]

>>1621400
Highdeas man, highdeas

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621407]

>>1621400
You're assuming that Mars is exactly like all other plants. Mars sort of already has everything we need, minus a thick oxygen atmosphere and a planetary magnetic field.

I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS

[Anonymous No.1621413]

>>1621407

It would still take fucking trillions upon trillions of dollars, and hundreds of years to terraform.

Fuck.

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621415]

>>1621413
>It would still take fucking trillions upon trillions of dollars
Not necessarily.
>and hundreds of years to terraform.
Completely, yes. Having a pressurized atmosphere would help a lot though. And I wouldn't think it would take more than 100 years to bring it up to Earth-levels.
I'm willing to wait.
http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/forever-young/manhattan-beach-project-end-aging-2029

[Anonymous No.1621419]

so, how come there are people living in nevada after 900 atomics?

>before the surface of earth is unable to sustain life

good luck with that one, a 10 km asteroid wasnt enough to kill everything off.

[Anonymous No.1621420]

>implying have time to terraform

ITS THE FUCKING DEAD HAND SYSTEM

[Anonymous No.1621424]

>>1621415

How could you possibly terroform mars without spending a fuckton of cash? Go on.

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621428]

>>1621420
What about 400 years from now, if there's something similar to the Dead Hand system?
And it goes off?
I don't feel like sitting next to the guy saying 'SHIT I SHOULD OF MADE THEM TERRAFORM MARS' or some shit.
Two planets, twice the chance of species survival. And if Earth is about to fuck up for some reason we cannot stop, at least we can hop over to another world.

[Anonymous No.1621430]

>>1621419
Those atomics were not that big and were very controlled..

The nukes the Russians have are bigger than Tsar. and theres alot of them

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621435]

>>1621424
(2015) - Asteroids to raise the temperature, melt surfacve water, release some gas
(2040)- Send robots able of replicating more of themselves at a small base to be flown somewhere on the land that won't be flooded
(2043)- Those robots run off nuclear/fusion/solar and eat up the dust and rocks, and with a little bit of energy start making black soot and more gas to pump up
(2093)- Within about 50 years Mars is past the 50% Earth pressure mark. Now start seeding with algae.
-????????????
- PROFIT

[Anonymous No.1621436]

Are there any active research projects on terraforming mars?

[Anonymous No.1621439]

>>1621435
Do you know how disturbing it is to walk into the kitchen at 8 in the morning to see your dad washing dishes and dancing to that song?

[Anonymous No.1621440]

>>1621428
>400 years from now...
>your still discussing this shit?

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621442]

>>1621439
Yours has?
>>1621440
No. I'll be doing my shit.

[Anonymous No.1621444]

>>1621440
Yeah. We're unimaginative people, and Manhattan Beach Project.

[Anonymous No.1621446]

>>1621430
>bigger than tzar

wat? the tzar was a one time test to see how high they could get, could have build it up to 150mt i believe, but the aircraft carrying it wouldnt have made it home again.

"city busters" in icbms are normally 150-600 kilotons, MIRVed.
example: the russian topol m carries one warhead, 550kt.
the american minuteman 3 carries 3 warheads, each 330kt.

[Anonymous No.1621449]

>>1621442
Yes, on more than one occasion. He's pretty cool other than that.

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621454]

>>1621449
It's only a matter of time before you hear:
SON, AM FURRY

[Anonymous No.1621459]

>>1621446
the dead hand system has like saturn rockets with giant ass nuclear warheads, specifically for raping the entire united states.

Like 200megatons

[Anonymous No.1621466]

>>1621459
WHY THE FUCK IS THAT STILL ACTIVE?!!?!?!!?!?!!!?!?

WHAT HAPPENS IF PUTIN GETS BORED?!?!?

[Anonymous No.1621469]

>>1621459
>saturn rockets
>200mt

rrrright, build by the soviet union, during the eighties, when they didnt even had money to pay a hotel for the prime minister when he visited other countries. right.

[Anonymous No.1621472]

What if.... they aim all there warheads at Yellowstone national park?

[Anonymous No.1621474]

>>1621469
>implying their entire population wasn't slaves

[Anonymous No.1621482]

>>1621474
o tru

[Anonymous No.1621483]

>>1621474
it is the "union of soviet socialist republics", not slaver republics.

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621488]

>>1621483
Yes but you can just change the general meaning of the word without many people noticing.
For instance...

[Anonymous No.1621487]

>>1621483
The gov't could do what it wished with the population. If it wanted them to drill oil, refine it, mine iron, make steel, construct rockets, it could

[Anonymous No.1621498]

>>1621472
shit would volcano

[Anonymous No.1621509]

depends where we are. in switzerland, months. Everywhere else, probably around 15-20 minutes depending on ICBM range/speed.

Life would never be completely extinguished (bottom of the sea, amazon rainforest, africa, etc). in most target/near target areas life would be dead within one generation of whatever you're talking about unless they were killed by the blast/extremely near to it

c) again, never. It won't be able to sustain humans for about 100,000 years in the least affected areas though

[Anonymous No.1621515]

Why don't we try to communicate with aliens while ending nuclear proliferation?

fire one nuke at the moon this year, then another next year, then two the year after, then three after that, then 5, etc.

[Anonymous No.1621522]

>c) Before the surface of the earth is unable to sustain life.

el oh el

all the atomic bombs ever made by humans detonated simultaneously at the worst possible points could not even come close to sterilizing a single continent. we just aren't that cool brah.

[Anonymous No.1621534]

>>1621487
>implying america cant do the same

[Anonymous No.1621535]

>>1621522
what if we shot them all at africa?

[Anonymous No.1621543]

>>1621435

>(2015) - Asteroids to raise the temperature, melt surfacve water, release some gas

how?

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621548]

>>1621543
Send them into decaying orbits around mars with small scale nuclear warheads to cause an inward spiralling orbit.
When it gets to Mars it will start burning up rapidly. This can be done to both Phobos, Deimos and several other large asteroids that may come in from the Asteroid belt.

Though the Martian atmosphere is thin, it isn't thin enough from causing 700'C temperatures on surface of the areas where the large meteorite is coming in from

[Anonymous No.1621551]

>>1621522

BITCHES DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY RADIOACTIVE FALLOUT

[Anonymous No.1621627]

BAMP for discussans.

[Anonymous No.1621659]

Nuking the moon is interesting, but wouldn't it make more sense to cover the dark side of the moon with some cosmically rare element/compound so the spectral data would tip them off? Then we don't have to deal with not being able to land on the moon anymore from radioactive fallout. Then there's also the EMPs that could mess up stuff on earth since we want them to be big enough to be seen from other stars (I assume that's what you meant)

[Inurdaes !lololSGJBw No.1621661]

>>1621659
but wouldn't it make more sense to cover the dark side of the moon with some cosmically rare element/compound so the spectral data would tip them off?
How the fuck could they see that?
Light speed barrier sucks.

[Anonymous No.1621744]

o hai guys

[Anonymous No.1621747]

>>1621744

WHOA. That never occurred to me.
Wait... is Ocarina of Time some sort of allegory for the Cold War?
*begins writing 600 page thesis*

[Anonymous No.1621758]

>>1621747

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dead+hand
Sorry brah