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Scientifically speaking, why wouldn't this work?

>> No.16178340

>>16178335
Its the joooo.

>> No.16178419

>>16178335
It takes energy to take heat out of a system like this. To make the ice it would take energy. Check your freezer, the inside might be cool, but if you check the condenser in the back you will see that it is quite warm. Putting one in the ocean might cool the surrounding water for a time, but globally it's a wash and will even contribute to rising temps due to inefficiencies in cooling systems. On top of that, climate change isn't just "muh temperature" it's a multitude of overlapping systems being effected and then responding non-linearly. Most /sci/tards don't understand earth science. Hell, to a large extent nobody does because it's so complex. Even so it doesn't take a genius to understand we are fucking things up in ways that can't be easily undone.

>> No.16178422

>>16178419
bring some from pluto. now what?

>> No.16178423

>>16178419
we didnt make the ice it came from the ice planet we just shipped it over

>> No.16178434

>>16178422
>>16178423
To start with, calculate how much energy it would take to cool the ocean by 1C. Now repeat with the atmosphere. Now calculate how much ice would need to change phase into water to soak up all that energy.

Besides the absurdity of the scales involved, cooling the entire Earth from just one spot on the ocean would create insane weather patterns and change the climate even faster than global warming.

Finally,
>we just shipped it over
Calculate how much energy that would take.

>> No.16178442

>>16178422
>>16178423
Same concept applies for the most part. It takes energy in transportation that will be offloaded to the earth's atmosphere (production and launching of a rocket.)
If you are going to say we have space infrastructure in this hypothetical, the second point still stands. You can't just cool the oceans to fix the current ecological crisis. It might help in the short term, but if the underlying causes aren't addressed it won't solve anything. You guys realize Futurama was making fun of the idea, right?

>> No.16178446

>>16178419
Put a refrigeration system into the ocean with the condenser attached to a satellite in geosynchronous orbit. It would take a lot of tubing to get from the ocean to space, but it would make all the heat vent outside the atmosphere. You could even make it solar powered since you'd have the sun's unfiltered rays in space.

>> No.16178462

>>16178446
Kino

>> No.16178466

Good thread.

>> No.16178476

>>16178446
This isn't as stupid of an idea as it sounds, despite anon being trapped in the 50's. There's a "solar" panel that was developed that emits infrared light through an optical window in the atmosphere to generate power. It basically only worked at night, but it was also basically a mirror so you could cool an area during the day by reflecting the light and generate power at night.

It looks like they figured out how to do it with regular solar panels now too.
https://arka360.com/ros/solar-panels-generating-power-at-night/

>> No.16178561

>>16178335

it did haha, i called it my birth - that was the end

>> No.16178642

>>16178335
The joke is that you would obviously run out of ice, rather than solving it once and for all.

>> No.16178672

>>16178642
But would it work?

>> No.16178723

>>16178672
I'm mot sure to be perfectly honest. You could supress the temperature rise at least for a while by dragging sea ice from the arctic and antactic towards the equator, but it wouldn't supress the heat accumulation (in fact you would make it quite a bit worse as the cooler tropics would radiate less heat), and the worst effects so far have been from warming in the polar regions, where there already is ice.

>> No.16178732

>>16178335
Matt Groening should fucking die already. Disenchanted is awful.