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[Anonymous No.16173012]

Prep for Flight 4 Stack Edition

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[Anonymous No.16173018]

LAUNCH
THE
FUCKING
ROCKET
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.16173021]

>>16173018
TWO.
MORE.
WEEKS.

[Anonymous No.16173024]

>>16173018
I have reached what I call “launch zen” where I just stop paying attention to starship flight speculation—even stuff Musk says directly. Yes I’m eager for flight 4, but once you stop hyper fixating on it and tracking launch calendars every day you free up a lot of personal impatience.

[Anonymous No.16173029]

>>16173024
Just dont listen to launch predictions from others and instead pay attention to whats right infront of you and make your own predictions based on previous flights.

[Anonymous No.16173060]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77lYUQpcsNM
Starlink time
T-40:00

[Anonymous No.16173067]

>>16173060
Need.... Starship... launch....

[Anonymous No.16173092]

“New Glenn” is quite a dumb name for a rocket. Dare I say it is even worse than Space Launch System.

[Anonymous No.16173099]

>>16172832
>Whats the end game for Starship LEO destination? How big of a station would be needed to built to scale it properly and make use of the capacity
With that much lift capacity you could try making Von Braun's wheel a reality.

[Anonymous No.16173113]

>>16173060
...And that's another successful launch

[Anonymous No.16173120]

>>16173113
ok whatever

[Anonymous No.16173123]

>>16173060
we live in an age of wonders--wonders that are all shit compared to the next starship launch

[Anonymous No.16173131]

what goes on in that massive building at starbase? what all do they make?

[Anonymous No.16173141]

geomagtenic storm tonight?

[Anonymous No.16173148]

Your precious Starship just caught on fire. RIP Ship 31, it was a total loss

[Anonymous No.16173149]

>>16173141
https://twitter.com/JAtanackov/status/1789828059098440058
>Aurora: update - a northward turn of Bz has reduced geomagnetic activity. No major aurora has been reported, with some very faint purple glow recorded by a high-altitude webcam in the Alps at 48°N. Further minor variations in activity may happen tonight, but no big show for now.

[Anonymous No.16173152]

>>16173148
>precious
My guy, we don't even keep track of which one they are until they're rolled out and stacked.

[Anonymous No.16173160]

>>16173152
>we
speak for yourself, fag. also nice going replying to bait

[Anonymous No.16173162]

https://x.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1789823633335943209
Electrical fire spotted now that its been mentioned

[Anonymous No.16173163]

>>16173162
This is incredibly bad

[Anonymous No.16173165]

>>16173163
says who

[Anonymous No.16173166]

>>16173163
They make these all the time. Its a pretty big fire but the ship is probably salvageable. Its better that they caught this earlier rather than later, wouldve been FAR worse if it was found when a WDR was underway before flight 6.

[Anonymous No.16173169]

>>16173165
Says him. Its still a decent reason to worry but they have more ships being produced ahead of even this one plus its two flights away from use so in the long term its not a big worry.

[Anonymous No.16173174]

>>16173163
Could be a total loss, could be they just need to pull some cables in the damaged section. Either way, it's not like they were planning on launching tomorrow or they were running low on the number of Starships they've got in stock

[Anonymous No.16173176]

>>16173162
More like an iterative failure program

[Anonymous No.16173177]

I will now be forcing you to see the current status of all ships and boosters since that fag earlier said
>we
dont track them pre-move.

[Anonymous No.16173180]

>>16173162
SpaceX is already testing flight six hardware.

[Anonymous No.16173184]

>>16173177
Take out ship 31 from this

[Anonymous No.16173186]

>>16173180
Yes, and just a reminder that Flight 7 of S32 is the final V1 Starship. The reason more arent built ahead of that is because that phase is still under development.

[Anonymous No.16173188]

>>16173184
Sorry but I dont make or update the diagrams. Also if failures do occur such as in flights they usually leave them up for a week of two with an explosion or scrapping text before being taken down. If you dont like it become a Ringwatcher or take up your grievances of this with them

[Anonymous No.16173190]

>>16173163
That's what happens when you invest in Musk

[Anonymous No.16173192]

Thoughtful and non-confrontational answers to bait are the best way to both counter their innate rage inducing purpose and to educate others about something they may not have known.
Not replying doesnt work because newfags will reply with the rage that the bait poster wants.

[Anonymous No.16173198]

>>16173192
(I would not be saying or doing this if the post quality of this general wasnt so bad right now due to newfags responding to and perpetuating bait)

[Anonymous No.16173205]

>>16173174
>under construction prototype rocket sets on fire
>any other company: absolute catastrophe, the only test unit is irreversibly ruined, requiring a several month long work halt to investigate the cause and decontaminate the smoke-damaged clean room
>this results in giant financial losses. Company goes broke a year later with the replacement rocket only half-finished.
>SpaceX: aw shucks, sell the steel off to the scrap merchant I guess and keep on going with one of the other half dozen units that are at or near completion.
>no clean room or factory getting shut down, the fire occurred outside because they build these things in the middle of a fucking swamp

[Anonymous No.16173237]

>>16173162
how do we know it is an electrical fire, rather than standard arc welding?

[Anonymous No.16173238]

>>16173237
good question. what it actually is is over

[Anonymous No.16173242]

>>16173237
Welding isn't that energetic and it wouldn't be happening during a pressure test

[Anonymous No.16173270]

>>16173162
>the beetles now have access to thermite

[Anonymous No.16173284]

>>16173162
Is the cause by the geomagnetite storm?

[Anonymous No.16173292]

>>16173092
It should be New Buzz

[Anonymous No.16173300]

Starship is over

[Anonymous No.16173302]

>>16173092
Bezos names have all been pretty bad so far

[Anonymous No.16173305]

>>16173092
It should've been "New V-2".

[Anonymous No.16173311]

Starship has only begun

[Anonymous No.16173312]

>>16173305
reserved for Starship V2

[Anonymous No.16173324]

>>16173311
Obviously. We're at 3 flights and F9 has done 330 at just 14 years in and Starship is supposed to ramp even faster

[Anonymous No.16173362]

>>16173162
>two weeks is now two months
we need to escape this fucking prison

[Anonymous No.16173366]

Behold, China's galactic East India Company. They will colonize Mars in the 2030's as a company colony. How do we compete?

[Anonymous No.16173371]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzZ8GgxQoNc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzZ8GgxQoNc

Eager spittin dat hot bile 'pon de NASA neck

[Anonymous No.16173375]

>>16173371
juicy stuff

[Anonymous No.16173388]

>>16173371
>6 months to set camera exposure settings correctly for artemis II
huh?

[Anonymous No.16173389]

>>16173362
Thats for flight 6 saar

[Anonymous No.16173412]

>>16173371

[Anonymous No.16173417]

Soo what happened to the astronauts in space? How come they didnt die from the "strongest solar storm" in living memory?

[Anonymous No.16173422]

And why has there so far been ZERO FOOTAGE of the friday auroras from space? pretty convenient

[Anonymous No.16173429]

>>16173417
the queers on the ISS are barely in space, they don't count

[Anonymous No.16173430]

>>16173429
are you saying that if artemis 2 was happening at the exact time, they would be fried?

[Anonymous No.16173433]

>>16173430
Maybe. We know Apollo had zero radiation shielding, and Orion's mass budget doesn't provide for an interplanetary style "storm cellar" as a capsule.

[Anonymous No.16173438]

>>16173430
they'd receive a significantly higher dose than anyone in LEO, but the risk of long term illness or damage from radiation even at those levels is very low. oldscience was full of anti nuke people so the cutoffs for 'safe' levels of radiation are way way below what is truly safe for long term space-flight

[Anonymous No.16173440]

>>16173438
I distinctly recall a solar storm in 1972 that people say would have absolutely killed apollo astronauts

[Anonymous No.16173441]

>>16173305
>New V-2

[Anonymous No.16173454]

we need to build a gargantua cathedral on the moon. it should be lord of the rings style

[Anonymous No.16173456]

Dragon demo 1
>heat shield anamolies
Orion artemis 1
>heat shield anamolies
Starliner
>perfect heat shield record

[Anonymous No.16173467]

>>16173456
Categorically false

[Anonymous No.16173474]

>>16173467
you are lying

[Anonymous No.16173478]

>>16173162
Is it moving? No. Is there combustion? Yes. Guys, this is just a static fire.

[Anonymous No.16173481]

>>16173474
You are fagging

[Anonymous No.16173484]

>>16173440
just don't be outside in a thin spacesuit and you're fine

[Anonymous No.16173490]

>>16173456
SpaceX gets a pass

[Anonymous No.16173496]

>>16173099
>Von Braun's wheel

[Anonymous No.16173515]

>>16173496
Your foto is doctored

[Anonymous No.16173517]

>>16173515
well yeah Dr. von Braun

[Anonymous No.16173528]

>>16173515
By doctor von braun

[Anonymous No.16173554]

>>16173162
isn't ship 31 slated for flight 6? so shouldnt affect flight 4 or 5 much or at all

[Anonymous No.16173560]

>>16173192
but not replying saves me time and effort

[Anonymous No.16173579]

>>16173371
I hate NASA and their lies

[Anonymous No.16173596]

>>16173371
NASA really sounds like the worst place to work at in the aerospace industry. It's full of diversity hires and arrogant boomers who think that they're infallible, because they work at NASA.
Absolutely disgusting behavior. This is what caused Challenger and Columbia disaster.

[Anonymous No.16173601]

>>16173371
>"wore away differently"
>actually massive craters

[Anonymous No.16173623]

>>16173205

[Anonymous No.16173658]

>>16173601
it's the same way they call retards, browns, and women "differently intelligent"

[Anonymous No.16173691]

>>16173456
You have to get to the fight before you can fight.

[Anonymous No.16173692]

>>16173623
Yee-haw!

[Anonymous No.16173702]

>>16173018
>CAHM AHN FOOKIN SPAHS-EEEECKS!!!
>BANG BANG BANG-BANB-BANG!
>LAWNCH SOOM FOOKIN RAAAAWK-EEETS!!!
>BANG BANG BANG-BANB-BANG!

[Anonymous No.16173711]

Ship 31 is fried!
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1789823633335943209

[Anonymous No.16173729]

>>16173024
Same, it's comfy as fuck

[Anonymous No.16173735]

>>16173166
The ship proper is likely untouched. Replace the burned electronics after figuring out the issue & go.

[Anonymous No.16173738]

Eric Berger is breeding fat pigs

[Anonymous No.16173740]

>>16173711
late-kun is late

[Anonymous No.16173744]

>>16173192
Not replying worked when everyone was on the same page. As usual newfags ruin everything.

[Anonymous No.16173749]

>>16173417
radiation is legit a nothingburger, I keep telling you people

[Anonymous No.16173751]

>>16173422
All the footage is from space, the Earth and everything on it is in space you dummy.

[Anonymous No.16173754]

>>16173484
Aluminum sucks as a rad shield as well, the kevlar blankets and interior plastic panelling are more effective at blocking the kinds of radiation associated with solar storms.

[Anonymous No.16173755]

if im in space why do i have air and gravity?

[Anonymous No.16173756]

>>16173623
>testing a hydrolox stage essentially indoors on the test stand
>what should have been a relaticely hsrmless pop and burn off ends up blowing up the stand requiring significant repairs
are ULA dumb

[Anonymous No.16173758]

>>16173755
cuz of where you are in space

[Anonymous No.16173773]

>>16173738
the war criminal can't keep getting away with it

[Anonymous No.16173810]

classic /sfg/ post coming through.

[Anonymous No.16173811]

>>16173198
cubic kilometer

[Anonymous No.16173817]

>>16173092
>Space launch system
>Starship
>Space shuttle
>Sputnik
It can't be long before we get a "big rocket" or "space vehicle" as the official name

[Anonymous No.16173840]

It's actually far worse than you think

[Anonymous No.16173892]

>>16173517
good job spelling his name correctly

[Anonymous No.16173907]

https://twitter.com/rookisaacman/status/1789784466816151650

NASA blows

[Anonymous No.16173911]

>>16173907
the quote tweet from a year ago

https://twitter.com/rookisaacman/status/1657830836350091281

[Anonymous No.16173916]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1cerDc_9ng
>Full Stack Starship Testing This Week | Starbase Update

[Anonymous No.16173924]

>>16173810
I like how Hullo is just his name now

[Anonymous No.16173929]

>>16173092
Which rocket had the coolest name?

[Anonymous No.16173931]

I don't vibe with black holes as singularities.
black holes themselves? sure, throw more mass in one place and the escape velocity increases. at some point that escape velocity exceeds light speed. works for me.
I've never been given a convincing explanation as to why that mass would be in an infinitesimally small point at the center.

[Anonymous No.16173933]

>>16173929
Sea Dragon

[Anonymous No.16173934]

>>16173931
Our fundamental theories of physics are obviously incomplete in very short lengths and very high energies.
Therefore the most likely explanation is there is no real singularity, nothing infinitesimal.

[Anonymous No.16173938]

Say goodbye to V2.
Welcome, Block 2!

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1790022896951099861

[Anonymous No.16173965]

Nice explosion lol

[Anonymous No.16173973]

>>16173021
Will this be the only starship that launched twice?

[Anonymous No.16173983]

>>16173973
No. Reusable upper stages are well understood technology.

[Anonymous No.16173984]

>>16173983
STS Orbiter was a partially reusable liquid rocket booster for the real spacecraft which was the orange tank

[Anonymous No.16173989]

Reminder about that NASA study on Starship where they put a huge door in the heat shield and a capsule ascent vehicle in the nose.

[Anonymous No.16174047]

>>16173929
Naming schemes peaked with Greco-Roman gods and that scheme peaked with Saturn V

[Anonymous No.16174062]

>>16174047
We only have so many Greco-Roman gods. We need more scalable naming schemes.

[Anonymous No.16174066]

>>16174062
birds

[Anonymous No.16174069]

>>16174066
sea life too

[Anonymous No.16174079]

>>16173916
Surprised they covered the ZAP! on ship 31.

[Anonymous No.16174080]

>>16173092
when I create my rocket company
I will name my rocket
"New Jeff"

[Anonymous No.16174082]

>>16174080
actually, since New Glenn and New Shepard follow the last name naming convention (they aren't New John and New Alan) for your rocket to follow the same naming convention it would have to be "New The Killer"

[Anonymous No.16174083]

>starship caught fire again
Ohnonononoooo NASA won't like this at all!

[Anonymous No.16174085]

>>16174082
New Iguana

[Anonymous No.16174088]

>>16173931

[Anonymous No.16174100]

Two SPMTs being moved in to where S30 is, looks like a move is happening soon.

[Anonymous No.16174105]

i thought they were gonna change the flaps and hinges? did they give up on it

[Anonymous No.16174116]

>>16174105
V2 Starship isnt out yet.

[Anonymous No.16174128]

>>16174116
yeah but the official renders look the same

[Anonymous No.16174138]

>>16174085
How come there's goop inside the tail instead of meat?

[Anonymous No.16174155]

>>16173440
Wasn't that about the Venus flyby?

[Anonymous No.16174158]

>>16174138
that's sauce, dummy

[Anonymous No.16174162]

>>16173931
>>16173934
yeah, it's a mathematical convention that's consistent with general relativity and seems to generate useful predictions, not a presumption about the actual underlying physical reality.

[Anonymous No.16174168]

>>16174162
I never liked coming up with a whole geometric coordinate shift to explain gravity via bent space. A much simpler explanation is that gravity exists as a particle/wave and that a pressure difference in the gravity field diffracts light waves. Michelson-Morley tests on Earth can't see it because the effect requires a larger primary. Then all the time dilation effects of high speed are simple SR in Newtonian/Cartesian space.

[Anonymous No.16174176]

Reminder that this footage exists
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IvHY6imbUBo&pp=ygUJc2t5c2hvd3R2

[Anonymous No.16174180]

>>16174176
They should get into livestreaming so that Estrogen has to go back to photographing at weddings.

[Anonymous No.16174210]

https://twitter.com/michaelnicollsx/status/1789882269131284609

[Anonymous No.16174217]

>>16174210
space weather is a nothingburger. literally easier to weather than earth weather

[Anonymous No.16174226]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/05/13/pentagon-worried-ula-vulcan-development/
>“I am growing concerned with ULA’s ability to scale manufacturing of its Vulcan rocket and scale its launch cadence to meet our needs,” [Air Force Assistant Secretary Frank Calvelli] wrote in the letter, a copy of which was obtained by The Washington Post. “Currently there is military satellite capability sitting on the ground due to Vulcan delays.”
>He added: “As the owners of ULA, and given the manufacturing prowess of Boeing and Lockheed Martin corporations, I recommend that you work together over the next 90 days to complete an independent review of ULA’s ability to scale its launch cadence to meet its current” contract requirements.

[Anonymous No.16174229]

>>16174226
I am not concerned.
In fact I don't care one tiny bit about legacy company low cadence launch vehicles.

[Anonymous No.16174235]

oh they're demolishing the tanks to put more horizontal tank down for the second pad.
i was wondering why they didn't just let them sit there and rot.

[Anonymous No.16174237]

>>16174226
wow that really sucks for the DOD. nobody could have imagined that vulcan would experience delays all the way back when the pentagon awarded ULA a majority of NSSL 2 contracts all the way back in 2023.

[Anonymous No.16174245]

>>16174235
probably the biggest mistake in starbase history is building those tanks

[Anonymous No.16174251]

>>16174245
>biggest mistake in starbase history
That was building a launch pad without a trench

[Anonymous No.16174257]

>>16174245
biggest mistake was suffering a single beetle to live

[Anonymous No.16174263]

>>16174251
You're a retard.
How much extra time did it take to install that plate?

[Anonymous No.16174266]

>>16174263
it was months, it was retarded for them to assume that the pad would be fine after the launch

[Anonymous No.16174271]

>>16174266
>it was months
How much extra compared to installing it into an intact pad?
Building and installing all those tanks took a LONG TIME and they're now completely superfluous.

[Anonymous No.16174288]

>>16174251
Trench would sink in that swampland

[Anonymous No.16174293]

>>16174210
The carrington event was a hoax

[Anonymous No.16174297]

>>16174237
I think part of the rationale was that SpaceX would need a pretty serious expansion of the launch complexes at LC-39 and SLC-4E so they could vertically stack payloads, while Vulcan could just use the preexisting Atlas V facilities. With SpaceX taking over both of the old Delta IV pads they could just convert their old mobile service towers to handle VI for Falcons, but this probably wouldn't be ready before Vulcan drags itself across the finish line into regular operation. It might be started in time for the NSSL-3 awards, but that's coming sometime this year so it'd be cutting it pretty close.

[Anonymous No.16174302]

>>16174293
Maybe those old telegraph stations burned because they were pieces of shit made by idiots...

[Anonymous No.16174310]

>>16173929
Mercury-Redstone comes to mind.
Long March is cool, but only because it's a homonym in english.
>>16174266
How retarded would it have been if it turned out the trench was unnecessary?

[Anonymous No.16174313]

>>16173440
>>16173484
owwie owch oof now I have a 3% higher chance of getting cancer by the time I'm 50

[Anonymous No.16174324]

>>16173929
R-Rocket 3...

[Anonymous No.16174344]

>>16174116
It's called Starship Block 2 now, sir.

[Anonymous No.16174353]

>>16173702
Thing about the FAA, they always try to walk it in.

[Anonymous No.16174356]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JvJsoRBL_4
How long until SpaceX kills someone?

[Anonymous No.16174390]

load faster you stupid fuck

[Anonymous No.16174410]

>>16174390
What are you talking about

[Barkon No.16174412]

Another gey space thread

[Barkon No.16174415]

Go Boeing!

[Anonymous No.16174422]

>>16174356
It's gonna get worse. and worse and worse until we're all dead

[Anonymous No.16174427]

>>16174226
Big oof for Tory the snake and Jeffrey the book salesman.

[Anonymous No.16174450]

>>16174427
It just keeps getting worse

https://spacenews.com/pentagon-urges-ula-to-fly-dummy-payload-on-next-vulcan-launch-if-dream-chaser-is-delayed/
>The Pentagon is considering allowing United Launch Alliance (ULA) to launch a mass simulator on its next Vulcan Centaur rocket flight if its planned payload, Sierra Space’s Dream Chaser, is not ready by year’s end, according to a defense official.
>ULA maintains confidence that it will launch Sierra Space’s Dream Chaser space plane by October but there are concerns at high levels about ULA’s ability to get the Vulcan rocket certified and flying at the rate needed to meet its contractual obligations, the official said.

[Anonymous No.16174453]

You beat me to posting it.
Anyways, as I have been saying for years:
DREAMCHASER WILL NEVER HAPPEN

[Anonymous No.16174457]

lol
https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1790082334105940432

[Anonymous No.16174458]

>>16174450
what could meme chaser possibly still require to be flight ready? It's taken like twice the time to become flight ready than the real shuttle lmao, despite being an eighth as ambitious

[Anonymous No.16174459]

>>16174457
Why???

[Anonymous No.16174460]

>>16174458
Maybe they don't want to risk the one flight article they have until they're certain Vulcan won't give it the old shaken payload syndrome?

[Anonymous No.16174461]

>>16174459
ITAR.

[Anonymous No.16174464]

>>16174458
Whatever dev funding it got as a part of the commercial crew/cargo competitions ran out years ago. Dream Chaser's had to live off of whatever funds could be spared from Sierra Nevada's other projects.

[Anonymous No.16174466]

>>16174461
wrong
>>16174459
prioprietary information

[Anonymous No.16174468]

damn

[Anonymous No.16174472]

When the escape velpcity of an object reaches light speed, what that really means is that inside that region of space all possible futures end up at the exact center of the black hole, and since the curvature is so extreme, it's literally irresistable, ie pressure from one particle lower down cannot propagate towards the particle above.

Personally I like to think anything that enters an event horizon gets utterly deleted, and only the gravitational dent from its mass and the field lines from any charges it had are left behind, simply added to the black hole.

[Anonymous No.16174475]

>>16174468
Nobody cares. Hes repeated this thousands of times ATP. Ban posting Musk tweets, SpaceX tweets and the like from Starbase tracking community are fine though,

[Anonymous No.16174479]

>>16174450
wow no one wants to fly on this POS

[Barkon No.16174480]

>>16174468
king of popsci unironically.

[Anonymous No.16174482]

>>16174464
what's even the business case when by the time it flies the ISS will be less than a decade from deorbit and with two operational crew vehicles? I guess they are banking on being the ride to blue queef if that ever happens?

[Anonymous No.16174483]

>>16174468
scammer and liar.

[Anonymous No.16174485]

>>16174483
Anyone can call themself an engineer, it's not a protected title.

[Anonymous No.16174488]

>>16174483
diplomas aside he doesn't have the understanding of neither an engineer let alone a physicist.

[Anonymous No.16174489]

>>16174468
thanks elon-gpt! you dont post that every day or anything. concerning!!

[Anonymous No.16174490]

>>16174479
Well, Kuiper kinda wants to but they're not ready yet. Last I heard they were looking at production launches around Q4 2024, which actually doesn't help Vulcan all that much.

>>16174482
Dream Chaser is just cargo right now with the DC-100 model. It's lighter on the g-forces on reentry and since it can land an airports you can get the cargo off faster. Right now there's still a bottleneck with cargo return capability, so there actually is interest in getting Dream Chaser operational. Both Axiom Station and Blue Reef could make use of it once they're operational.

[Anonymous No.16174494]

>>16174483
professional youtubers sure love pulling rank

[Anonymous No.16174495]

>>16174468
>brainrot
>spacegpt
>brainrot ragebait
I don't think he's alright

[Anonymous No.16174499]

did someone advertise /sfg/ on reddit or something? whats going on in this thread

[Anonymous No.16174502]

[Anonymous No.16174504]

All me btw

[Anonymous No.16174508]

Name 1(ONE) instance where Elon Musk says something nice about someone, or gives someone a compliment.
Protip: you can't

[Anonymous No.16174511]

this place is a wasteland

[Anonymous No.16174514]

Funding secured

[Anonymous No.16174515]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8wM4VhiPCo

[Anonymous No.16174516]

>>16174511

[Anonymous No.16174517]

Remember to report all the previous short time span of messages as spam

[Anonymous No.16174518]

geomagnetic storm faggots please go

[Anonymous No.16174519]

>>16174516
FERTILE SOIL, VIBRANT COLORS

[Anonymous No.16174524]

>>16174499
Nope, I mentioned it on twitter.

[Anonymous No.16174525]

>16174517
someone's upset someone's been posting Elon Musk"s tweets.

[Anonymous No.16174527]

>>16174524
so yes basically

[Anonymous No.16174529]

>>16174527
Just kidding, bro.
I would have never done that.

[Anonymous No.16174531]

>>16174529
its over (for this general)

[Anonymous No.16174534]

Casual reminder we have two of these exploring a river channel and a big mountain.

[Anonymous No.16174536]

>>16174534
WHO CARES

[Anonymous No.16174539]

>>16174534
Supposed and the only thing theyve been in the news for recently is the cancelling of JPLs MSR.

[Anonymous No.16174540]

>>16174534
What a waste of money

[Anonymous No.16174541]

>>16174536
Well I think its pretty neat.

[Anonymous No.16174542]

>>16174524
Hey Twitter/X,

Did you know Elon is controlled by the jews?

[Anonymous No.16174545]

>>16174542
Who isn't?

[Anonymous No.16174546]

>>16174539
>Supposed
Supposed river delta?
>cancelling of JPLs MSR
Did it really happen? QRD?

[Anonymous No.16174547]

>>16174508
Delusional
He thanks his teams all the time

[Anonymous No.16174549]

>>16174085
>>16174082
"New Who"

[Anonymous No.16174550]

>>16174534
The thing I hate most is the humanization of the rovers. 'Percy', 'Oppy' etc. Such gay feminine nonsense, like being childless and posting pictures of your cat.

[Anonymous No.16174551]

>>16174546
NASA's put out an open call for cheaper proposals. The only one we're heard anything about is Boeing's offer to do it all in a single launch using an SLS.

[Anonymous No.16174552]

>>16174546
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/nasa-says-it-needs-better-ideas-on-how-to-return-samples-from-mars/

[Anonymous No.16174553]

>>16174550
NASA is pushing that a little bit I feel.

[Anonymous No.16174554]

>>16174550
you don't have many close friends, do you?

[Anonymous No.16174557]

>>16174554
I know you are, but what am I?

[Anonymous No.16174559]

Above 2 messages were samefagged

[Anonymous No.16174560]

>>16174552
>nasa-says-it-needs-better-ideas-on-how-to-return-samples-from-mars
/sfg/ it's time to brain storm. Send in your proposals in replies to this post.

[Anonymous No.16174562]

below 2 messages will be samefagged

[Anonymous No.16174563]

>>16174552
>NASA officials determined the agency's plan for Mars Sample Return would not get specimens from the red planet back to Earth until 2040
>Returning pristine specimens from Mars to Earth for analysis in ground-based labs has been a top priority for the planetary science community's decadal survey process. But getting those samples back has turned out to be a lot more challenging than NASA thought.

"The bottom line is that $11 billion is too expensive, and not returning samples until 2040 is unacceptably too long," NASA Administrator Bill Nelson told reporters Monday.

Finally NASA came to it's senses

[Anonymous No.16174568]

Im >>16174562

[Anonymous No.16174571]

>>16174560
Boeing has an idea
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/05/nasa-wants-a-cheaper-mars-sample-return-boeing-proposes-most-expensive-rocket/

[Anonymous No.16174573]

>>16174560
thermonuclear bomb. Time it right so that the ejecta that escapes Mars will intersect with Earth's orbit. Much easier to retrieve samples from space than from the surface!

[Anonymous No.16174575]

>>16174560
They need a rocket to bring the tubes in Mars orbit and they need a spacecraft to pick them up in orbit and send them back to Earth. So they need at least two more craft, that's unavoidable. I'm only curious how the fuck can those cost 11 billion lol.

[Anonymous No.16174594]

>>16174502
It's not a metaphor. He's talking about an actual graveyard.

[Anonymous No.16174598]

>>16174594
even worse, most of those enemies aren't even technically dead

[Anonymous No.16174600]

>>16174560
A fully expended Falcon Heavy can fling about 17 tons to TMI, so we'll use that as our default vehicle. We can downgrade to more reusability if the mission comes in lighter.

The basic vehicle will look a lot like Red Dragon, with a Dragon 2-derived capsule landing on Mars using a mix of parachutes and retropropulsion. Once it's down you use one or two Ingenuity-derived helicopter drones to recover the sample tubes and bring them back to the lander. Once there, they're loaded in through the top onto a solid fuel ascent vehicle. This is mounted in a launch silo in the middle that opens up where the docking port usually is.

Once its loaded up, the ascender carries the samples to orbit where they're collected by an earth return vehicle. This bit rides along in the Dragon's trunk and gets detached after the spacecraft makes its insertion maneuver into Mars orbit. It's job is pretty straightforward so you can just base it off of a commercial satellite bus. A Rocket Lab Explorer might work if it has enough delta-v.

After that, it's just a question of getting the samples back to Earth in a standard ballistic sample container (contract that out to Varda?) or parking them in LEO for recovery by a crew Dragon EVA mission (prob. more reliable but higher dV requirements).

[Anonymous No.16174608]

>>16174519
No politicians, no bureaucrats.
Fuck man, where do I sign? I'll live on turd grown potatoes for the rest of my life if I have to.

[Anonymous No.16174625]

>>16174066
beetles

[Anonymous No.16174630]

>>16174483
>required this
>required that
>silly oaths
things that midwits insist on to keep them from being threatened by actual talent

[Anonymous No.16174635]

>>16174630
Someone who only has the capability to be a bitch will inevitable worship the certification state

[Anonymous No.16174636]

>>16174573
I like it

[Anonymous No.16174642]

>>16174552
Multiple launch is dead. Starship is the only way they can pull this off.

[Anonymous No.16174649]

>>16174642
Falcon Heavy or New Glenn/Centaur would be just as capable

[Anonymous No.16174665]

>>16174598
"Hey, aren't you that cave diver that rescued those kids in Thailand?"
"Jeff Bezos?! What are you doing here?"

[Anonymous No.16174671]

>>16174560
Wait for some other astronomical body to hit Mars and send them to Antarctica. It's cheaper, faster and has a higher probability of success than the original plan or the Boing! plan.

[Anonymous No.16174674]

>>16174560
Redevelop Arecibo into a terawatt scale nuclear power plant and beamed-laser boost facility. Use a Vulcan to launch the LH2-filled laser thermal transfer vehicle (based on ZBO ACES/Centaur tanks), a Falcon 9 to launch the payload, dock in LEO, boost Mars stages to TMI, boost back to LEO for reuse.

Mars payload consists of a LOFTID style inflatable aeroshell, retro thrusters, a retrieval rover, a launchpad/erector, and a N2O4/Pentaborane 3STO rocket for direct impulsive + aerobrake return to Earth.

[Anonymous No.16174693]

LOL

[Anonymous No.16174695]

LMAO

[Anonymous No.16174696]

https://twitter.com/NOAASatellites/status/1790047549086142857
>The sun's fiery temperament unleashed multiple coronal mass ejections last week, which ignited a mesmerizing display of auroras across the globe—even in places where the phenomenon is rarely seen. This combined image was captured by NOAA's JPSSProgram satellites as they passed over North America from May 10–11.

[Anonymous No.16174698]

>>16174665
Okay pedo guy.

[Anonymous No.16174708]

>>16174696

[Anonymous No.16174725]

>>16174550
They just want to take the rover shopping and to the prom, why do you have to be so misogynist about it?

[Anonymous No.16174742]

>>16174356
that's a carbon composite tank, is that an Electron upper stage?

[Anonymous No.16174743]

>>16174472
luckily it's literally impossible to actually fall into a black hole due to general and special relativity
time stops first

[Anonymous No.16174746]

>>16174531
stupid frogposter

[Anonymous No.16174750]

>>16174743
but I saw that dude fall into one in interstellar

[Anonymous No.16174751]

https://twitter.com/heospace/status/1790166071447789955
>Non-Earth imaging provides the best view of satellites in space. We captured this image of the ISS as it passed over the Indian Ocean from a satellite 69.06 km away.

[Anonymous No.16174755]

>>16174750
be less of a gay nigger please
>>16174751
literally illegal, this is a crime
somebody stop them

[Anonymous No.16174756]

>>16174525
funny how they did this once then never again

[Anonymous No.16174762]

>>16174756
it was for a publicity stunt, there are better vehicles for the job
like a semi truck can just haul five of them at once or whatever

[Anonymous No.16174765]

The IFT-1 mishap report got released and someone found out that the censor bars are movable

[Anonymous No.16174767]

>>16174765

[Anonymous No.16174768]

>>16174765
is this illegal?

[Anonymous No.16174769]

>>16174762
>semi truck
where are the tesla semis?

[Anonymous No.16174770]

>>16174767
lmao

[Anonymous No.16174772]

>>16174765
so someone will remove them all and give us an uncensored version?

[Anonymous No.16174773]

>>16174765
>>16174767
Its so fucking over spacex bros....
Whoever did this is getting fired oof

[Anonymous No.16174774]

>>16174769
like 5 companies have pilot vehicles in testing now

[Anonymous No.16174775]

>>16174774
but not spacex?

[Anonymous No.16174779]

>>16174775
probably not but who knows
the lack of charging infrastructure for semis limit the testing

[Anonymous No.16174780]

>>16174457
Lmao nice

[Anonymous No.16174782]

>>16174779
Good excuse. I will let you off on this one.

[Anonymous No.16174792]

Eric Berger’s kids look just like him I don’t know how to describe it though

[Anonymous No.16174793]

>>16174767
>>16174765
Fake as shit. Post a full page unredacted then you fucking lying rat

[Anonymous No.16174798]

>>16174793
nigger

[Anonymous No.16174799]

>>16174798
Knew it

[Anonymous No.16174803]

Here's a link if anyone wants to try

https://twitter.com/mcrs987/status/1790082334105940432
>Uploaded it to Drive
>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eyc22bA1qV75bbvksrr1VM2iNPp3bqvn

[Anonymous No.16174805]

>>16174803
IP grabber

[Anonymous No.16174807]

uh oh.......

[Anonymous No.16174808]

https://youtu.be/D9Zqdy8_uS4

[Anonymous No.16174811]

>>16174808
Skibidi edge rizz

[Anonymous No.16174813]

Is this the first Starship V2 hardware we’ve seen?

[Anonymous No.16174817]

>>16174746
>not "in case of frog"
one job, baka anon

[Anonymous No.16174818]

>>16174817
do you feel like editing it? because I don't

[Anonymous No.16174820]

>>16174818
Goon

[Anonymous No.16174821]

>>16174818
eventually, all the important letters are there

[Anonymous No.16174823]

>>16174743
that's just an illusion for observers on the outside: they see your stretched out, faded, red shifted light. In reality the object actually does just fall through the horizon. They'd only see the universe's time accelerate once they reach the ultra high gravitational acceleration zone, where tidal forces would be busy shredding them.

[Anonymous No.16174827]

>>16174793
Discord trannies are notorious attention whores. It's why they prefer namefagging

[Anonymous No.16174831]

This fucker is being developed since 2011, and got a NASAs contract in 2016, and still havent been launched yet, how can a cargo spaceship take so long?

[Anonymous No.16174834]

>>16174831
Reading about that nasas contract, somebody else remember than the other spaceship chosen was the cargo starliner? Why it hasnt launched yet when it is supposed to be easier to develop than manned starliner?

[Anonymous No.16174839]

>>16174821
are you still the footfag

[Anonymous No.16174840]

companies are putting liens on starbase cuz spacex is avoiding paying them for services rendered

>a Reuters review of Texas property records shows that SpaceX and its contractors can be far slower to pay builders and suppliers than they are to break ground. Unpaid bills and finger-pointing among contractors, Reuters found, have led many construction-industry businesses to file liens against SpaceX properties in efforts to get compensated.
>The result, several of those businesses told Reuters, is a reluctance to work on SpaceX-related projects again. "If they were to call me today, I'd tell them to fuck off," said Brian Rozelle, an owner of Hydroz Energy Services LLC.
>Texas property records show that Hydroz is one of more than two dozen companies that have filed at least 72 liens since 2019 against sites developed by SpaceX and its contractors. Combined, Reuters found, the liens have sought payments totaling more than $2.5 million.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/musks-spacex-is-quick-build-texas-slow-pay-its-bills-2024-05-13/

[Anonymous No.16174841]

>>16174839
there's more than one cirnoposter, frogfag

[Anonymous No.16174843]

>>16174841
no, you nigger, I'm talking about oldfag shit
if you know, you know

[Anonymous No.16174847]

>>16174831
>>16174464 underfunded

[Anonymous No.16174848]

>>16174843
I actually hate footfags, it's so lame. I'm actually a hatfag, but not in /sfg/.

[Anonymous No.16174850]

martian gardens

[Anonymous No.16174851]

>>16174840
>Reuters couldn't determine for every lien whether outstanding bills were owed by SpaceX or by one of its contractors who commissioned work or materials on its behalf.

nice try troll

[Anonymous No.16174852]

[Anonymous No.16174854]

>>16174807
AIEEE!!

[Anonymous No.16174855]

[Anonymous No.16174856]

ah yes...toxic regolith gardens...

[Anonymous No.16174857]

>>16174823
if the black hole is big enough spaghettification doesn't happen outside the event horizon

[Anonymous No.16174858]

>>16174854
this shit is on a fucking log scale and it's still spiking
>>16174856
perchlorates aren't difficult to remove, they're very reactive

[Anonymous No.16174863]

>>16174854
is we getting an aurora

[Anonymous No.16174879]

>>16173422
This. Although I find it kinda weird that God decided to tell some scientists about Him putting on the aurora screensaver on the domescreen before even doing it. Why in heaven did He do that.

[Anonymous No.16174881]

>>16174863
Somehow no even though the flux is at the level it was during the insane shit on Friday.

[Anonymous No.16174883]

>>16174840
That's what tou get trying to scam spacex kek

[Anonymous No.16174890]

>>16173751
You can't be serious

[Anonymous No.16174891]

>>16173422
It is odd, now that you mention it

[Anonymous No.16174894]

>>16174831
Sierra claims it’s “ready to go” but they haven’t given ULA an official ‘ready’ status, ergo many think Sierra are lying and it might not be ready yet, still. They’re oldspace.

[Anonymous No.16174899]

>>16174894
If dream chaser cant go, I vulunteer to go

[Anonymous No.16174904]

>>16174894
>“While ULA will be ready to fly in mid-2024 our customer Sierra Space has requested a launch period in the beginning of September,” said Rye. “It is important for us to fly our Cert-2 mission soon since that is part of our certification program with the Space Force to fly its missions. We expect to fly Cert-2 before October 1. If our customer is not ready to fly, we have backup plans.”

It's going to slip later than Septemeber

[Anonymous No.16174909]

>>16173751
t. black science man

I agree there's a lot of space between your ears

[Anonymous No.16174911]

>>16174894
mass simulators are fake
they actually have mass
they're not simulating it

[Anonymous No.16174912]

>>16174911
>>16174894
more like massive simulators of non-test payloads

[Anonymous No.16174945]

>>16174911
we live in a simulation and nothing actually has mass

[Anonymous No.16174951]

>>16174945
Livvy Dunne rizzed up baby Gronk level 5 skibidi gyatt rizz

[Anonymous No.16174952]

>>16174911
No...
NIGGERMAN SAVE ME I'M GOING INSANE

[Anonymous No.16174980]

>>16174293
it was an X45 flare we were hit by up to X6 flare this time

[Anonymous No.16175000]

>>16174952
What seems to be the problem, Martian citizen?

[Anonymous No.16175014]

>>16174980
You trust scientists a lot, huh

[Anonymous No.16175027]

>>16174904
This reeks of project management fuckup they're covering up
This immediately reminds me of Psyche realizing they never validated their flight software

[Anonymous No.16175030]

>>16175014
Do you trust gravity. Do you trust electricity. Do you trust normal force. If you said yes to any of these you trust scientists. You automatically respond yes to #2 by using an electronic device to post this message btw, so you do trust scientists.

[Anonymous No.16175033]

>>16175030
You are wrong. I trust engineers, not scientists

[Anonymous No.16175035]

>>16175033
Categorically false, I prebunked your denial anyways.

[Anonymous No.16175049]

>>16175035
Why are you replying to yourself?

[Anonymous No.16175050]

My sources say the death penalty, for unpaid contractor bills, being considered for Elon Musk. I am pro-life and take no pleasure in reporting this.

[Anonymous No.16175056]

>>16175049
Another falsity. Cant html edit also this is mobile

[Anonymous No.16175065]

>>16175056
Nice photo shop fucktard

[Anonymous No.16175108]

>European Iris2 will be a direct competitor to Starlink
>170 satellites
>12 billion euros

Lmao.

[Anonymous No.16175156]

This place is a mess

[Anonymous No.16175171]

Imagine if HAL9000 just makes a pickle rick joke and then sends you out the fucking air lock

[Anonymous No.16175181]

>>16175171

[Anonymous No.16175192]

>>16175171
No wonder he got beat in school he's an annoying redditor faggot sperg

[Anonymous No.16175221]

>>16174813
No, it's the first Starship Block 2 hardware.

[Anonymous No.16175223]

>>16175221
Version 1 Block 2, 0.5.0.2beta(release candidate 80).

[Anonymous No.16175256]

Jared Isaacman nearly crashed.
Dude needs to die in a horrific spaceflight accident not flying stupid jets

[Anonymous No.16175264]

Concerning

[Anonymous No.16175268]

>>16174840
It's pretty clear that they have some kind of grip on musk now. Probably started really going after him when he started talking about starlink terminals in palestine.

Spacex needs to be moving even faster.

[Anonymous No.16175269]

>>16175256
what the fuck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.16175272]

>>16175269
See here https://twitter.com/JacquiGoddard1/status/1789837471015919706
inflight collision bent the wingtip.

[Anonymous No.16175285]

>>16174792
pudgy pig features

[Anonymous No.16175289]

>>16174831
when will the musk haters pile on this piece of shit for being a decade late?

[Anonymous No.16175293]

>>16174858
>perchlorates aren't difficult to remove
do it then.
make a cheap scaleable solution for removing perchlorates in a Mars habitat. You wont.

[Anonymous No.16175294]

>>16175293
literally just piss on the regolith

[Anonymous No.16175296]

>>16174483
The Engineer's oath? What the hell is that?

[Anonymous No.16175297]

>>16174708
This makes Canada look smaller than America.

[Anonymous No.16175302]

>>16175297
because it is

[Anonymous No.16175305]

https://twitter.com/HarlysCorner/status/1790140424109097270
So apparently some based amateur radio astronomers have been capturing the video feeds from Falcon launches broadcast by the second stage, including internal views of the LoX tank
Pretty cool stuff

[Anonymous No.16175306]

>>16175302
no its not.

[Anonymous No.16175310]

>>16175305
I can't with all of this AI generated stuff.

[Anonymous No.16175315]

>>16175305
Unless I’m mistaken, this was 3+ years ago. You can’t decode their videos anymore

[Anonymous No.16175318]

>>16175305
This is old shit. They started encrypting the steams the next launch after people found out. Maybe they got lazy.

[Anonymous No.16175321]

>>16175318
fuck you.

[Anonymous No.16175323]

>>16175293
It's already been invented: perchlorates decompose in water at room temperature. Just spray the thin layer on top of martian soil with some warm water and you're good.

[Anonymous No.16175327]

>>16175323
where will you get that warm water from and how do you avoid wasting it? you cant just let the water dissipate into the soil, water is too valuable.

[Anonymous No.16175328]

>>16175318
Yeah, that was years ago. Is that guy just reposting old info or did SpaceX silently stop encrypting?
>>16175327
Just pee on it, bro. Nobody will care if there's some perchlorates in the pisslocks.

[Anonymous No.16175329]

>>16175327
anon... if we're using the soil to grow things, we'll need to water it anyway.

[Anonymous No.16175336]

>>16175328
I think it's just old videos, the source is from 2021

[Anonymous No.16175344]

>>16175329
you would want a closed loop of water for farming, and if you have a closed loop then you cant get rid of the perchlorates.

[Anonymous No.16175345]

>>16175344
bro the perchlorates cease to exist once watered

[Anonymous No.16175346]

>>16175344
I don't understand. Are you saying that in-situ H2O doesn't exist?

[Anonymous No.16175348]

>>16175346
the poles of Mars have less water than the sahara, unironically. Farther from the poles where the colony will be buit it's even harder to get water. Mars is wet compared to the moon, but really not wet at all compared to Earth.

[Anonymous No.16175353]

>>16175348
Picrel has 2200 liters of water ice, and isn't even at the poles. Mars has highly saline liquid water underground, and subsurface permafrost as well. Perchlorates and water are both almost complete non-issues. You are a retard.

[Anonymous No.16175355]

>>16175353
>WOW look a swimming pool worth of water
You do know the Sahara has water bodies too?

[Anonymous No.16175360]

>>16175353
>2 cubic kilometers of water
It's over

[Anonymous No.16175364]

>>16175360
damn...

[Anonymous No.16175367]

>>16175355
The sahara is not immune to e*rther meddling.

[Anonymous No.16175369]

uh oh

[Anonymous No.16175390]

>>16175369
She wants to go to orbit...
Very sad.

[Anonymous No.16175397]

>/sfg/ - space pissing general

[Anonymous No.16175412]

>>16175353
>Picrel has 2200 liters of water ice
me when I spread misinformation on the internet.
reminder to disregard all perchlorate and anti-mars shills in general

[Anonymous No.16175414]

>>16174550
It's marketing. They get more popular support and thus more funding and lower risk of cancellation by making ham fisted appeals to emotion like this.

One might reasonably wonder if it's appropriate in a nominal democracy for government employees to try to influence public opinion in favor of their agency's interests.

Ultimately it's effective and they aren't being punished for it, so they'll keep doing it.

[Anonymous No.16175419]

https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/in-the-race-for-space-metals-companies-hope-to-cash-in.1500645
Interesting article on in space mining. In short: it isn't going anywhere fast.
also, Ars Technica comments really amuse me, almost all of them go "we need to solve capitalism on earth" and "impossible", even when confronted by the numbers. It's repeated ad nauseum, and then they get confused.

[Anonymous No.16175423]

>>16175412
That's what I said, see
>>16175364
1000 m^3 = 1L = 1km^3

[Anonymous No.16175427]

>>16175306
America is several cubic kilometers

[Anonymous No.16175431]

>>16175344
decompose, not dissolve
go sit in the corner

[Anonymous No.16175438]

>>16175431
I would fuck you in the ass and jerk you off at the same time if you let me.

[Anonymous No.16175461]

Unironically If Mars had a little bit more atmopshere and was a little closer to the Sun it could sustain some species.

[Anonymous No.16175472]

>>16175461
>if Mars wasn't Mars it wouldn't be Mars

[Anonymous No.16175474]

>>16175296
>Engineer's Oath
the bout of swearing every time management changes the basic requirements

[Anonymous No.16175478]

>>16175474
It's "The Engineer's Pledge" and it's really only something people who work on building public bridges and the like do.

[Anonymous No.16175483]

>>16175478
>I pledge to always price gouge and take the maximum amount of breaks

[Anonymous No.16175504]

>>16175472
argument rejected

[Anonymous No.16175506]

the three tenets of SpaceX engineers:
1.If it works don't fix it
2.Out of sight out of mind
3.Best part is not part

[Anonymous No.16175520]

>Starliner launch slipping to NET May 21. Should become official later today.
E. Berger

[Anonymous No.16175523]

>>16175520
will it slip to 2025

[Anonymous No.16175527]

>>16175520
Star liner and flight 4 in a delay battle at the moment

[Anonymous No.16175539]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1790388948184805748
>it sounds like this additional four-day delay is due to a spacecraft issue not the Atlas V booster.

[Anonymous No.16175549]

>>16175478

[Anonymous No.16175582]

>>16175539
A problem with starliner causing a delay? This is unprecedented.

[Anonymous No.16175588]

>>16175474
kek

[Anonymous No.16175592]

>>16175327
you need thousands of tons of water for propellant, you stupid nigger
wasting a gallon or two to decompose some perchlorates (that you can do inside and recover from your fucking air conditioning system) isn't an issue

[Anonymous No.16175594]

>>16175592
>you need thousands of tons of water for propellant
another reason why mars colonization on the near ter is a fantasy.
If Musk isnt extracting proellant from the air and water on Earth, what chance does he have on Mars?

[Anonymous No.16175595]

>>16175345
this, they turn into fucking salt typically
if you're unlucky they turn into hydrochloric acid or chlorine gas, in which case you just need to pH balance the soil again

[Anonymous No.16175596]

>>16175539
Surely there have been more than 10 delays.
Starliner may be operating outside of it's design specifications! This calls for another delay.

[Anonymous No.16175601]

>>16175594
please stop posting retarded bait

[Anonymous No.16175604]

>>16175601
how is it bait? Let me guess. stuffyou don't like is bait.

[Anonymous No.16175605]

We need to funnel more money into Astronomy.

[Anonymous No.16175609]

>>16175601
Ive personally learned that responding to them asking them to stop doesnt work, trust me Ive tried for weeks.
The thing that these people are looking for is negative reactions, so if you want to counter them you need to give a response that is actually thoughtful and non aggresive in response to the contents of the message and not the person themselves. If you attack them, they get a reaction, if you attack the message, they get a reaction, if you agree with them, they have a reason to post more bait. The only true way to respond is to not give the reaction they want and leave them no room to respond.

[Anonymous No.16175610]

>>16175609
PS, this can also be done by not responding at all but newfags will give them (You)s anyways. Either route works

[Anonymous No.16175612]

>>16175610
>>16175609
>>16175601
And one more thing see what I mean by asking them to stop doesnt work, >16175604 is always what they say. It just gives them a platform to jump off of to continue the bait.

[Anonymous No.16175613]

>>16175601
this general actually benefits from bait: take the discussion on perchlorates and waters distribution on mars as an example. I don't mind engaging with it.

[Anonymous No.16175615]

>>16175613
yeah but I want the bait to be LESS RETARDED

[Anonymous No.16175616]

>>16175609
>If you attack them
the fact that this is the default response of an sfgtard to anything anti musk is astonishing.

[Anonymous No.16175617]

>>16175613
That only happens when >>16175609 is done which is not often lately. Overall a net negative, you can also just start the conversation on the topic without baiting.

[Anonymous No.16175622]

How do we solve the water problem in the south-west?

[Anonymous No.16175626]

>>16175622
stop trolling.

[Anonymous No.16175628]

what happens when you filter 'musk'

[Anonymous No.16175627]

Marsfags: rationing bottles of water
Moonchads: bathing in eternal lunar freshwater springs

[Anonymous No.16175629]

how do we fix the NASA procurement problem (“let’s just award everything to SX” prob)!

[Anonymous No.16175630]

>>16175629
unfortunately the only solution to that problem is to have a company that can actually compete with spacex as a launch provider. blue origin cant do that currently and ULA is also undergoing turbulent times and is still too slow so that leaves only spacex. if you think you can compete with them then make a startup, otherwise it will stay as it is as congress continues to push NASA to stop using SLS and rely more on commercial launches.
they have a tight budget so you cant really do much about them moving away from SLS which is just far too expensive.

[Anonymous No.16175633]

>>16175630
actually you forgot the lobbying solution

[Anonymous No.16175634]

>>16175628

[Anonymous No.16175635]

Kill SpaceX behead SpaceX roundhouse kick SpaceX employees into the trash can

[Anonymous No.16175637]

>>16175633
sorry but nobody in the lobbying business cares enough about spaceflight to start diverting the important money from politics over to this other than maybe bezos who has his hands full with amazon as a far more lucrative and bright futured business.
that also doesnt fix the core issue behind this situation of spacex being the only viable launch provider at the moment for cheap, efficient and always ready rockets. you cant treat this like a government issue, its a private sector and as such a company must outcompete them and cant just lobby it away.

[Anonymous No.16175638]

>>16175635
Go back to figuring out how to reach orbit, Jeff.

[Anonymous No.16175639]

>>16175629
>“let’s just award everything to SX
correct. They are the only big aerospace company that has an intrinsic motivation to advanced spaceflight. Boeing on the other hand will try to make the least amount of work and harvest the highest amount of government money. And they also hire a lot of lawyers and senators.

[Anonymous No.16175642]

>>16175629
>National Aeronautics and Space Administration
>doesn't administer flights
>doesn't issue launch licenses
>doesn't build planes
>doesn't build spacecraft

[Anonymous No.16175643]

>>16175639
boeings solution has yet to work since spacex proved their dominance over the launch and commercial space transportation markets as well, which is a counter to the previously mentioned 'lobbying solution'.

[Anonymous No.16175645]

Boeing should be sold off to the highest bidder

[Anonymous No.16175652]

>new chatgpt
how can we use this to help colonize space?

[Anonymous No.16175653]

>>16175642
>>16175639
>>16175630
newfags get OUT!
https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/pb0m3c/hacker_leaks_alleged_ula_internal_emails_intent/

[Anonymous No.16175655]

>>16175628
Doesn't the ISS have a musk problem. How can it be filtered?

[Anonymous No.16175656]

>>16175645
That would likely be Airbus making a monopoly for the aerospace industry, it would likely just be better to leave the company to rot in regulation like it currently is, splitting it up would only serve to make repairs to current dangerous planes even harder.

[Anonymous No.16175658]

>>16175653
Nobody here SHOULD be reading rebbit. It seems like (You) are though, care to explain?

[Anonymous No.16175662]

>>16175656
>That would likely be Airbus
Eurobros... it's time

[Anonymous No.16175665]

>>16175622
Kill the nonwhites.

[Anonymous No.16175668]

>>16175653
fake news

[Anonymous No.16175669]

>>16175658
exposed newfag copes by claiming his ignorance means others are cringe.

[Anonymous No.16175675]

>Since we're talking about a very long-term aspiration here, I think it would be a good idea to look at demographic trends and imagine the kind of world we'll be responding to when asteroid mining becomes feasible.
>Global fertility rates are declining dramatically, the number of live births peaked in 2012 at over 143 million people, and has since dropped significantly. Fertility rates are also down, live births per woman peaked globally in 1963 at over 5 births per woman, it is currently falling past 2.3, and will be below the generally accepted replacement rate of 2.1 by 2057. By 2100, the global population will be near its maximum, and will begin to decline soon afterwards.
>That prompts the question of what kind of resource demands we will be needing in the long term. For the short term, mining on Earth will have to increase to keep up with the demand of rising populations. Recycling can reduce the amount of new mining that is required, but can't make up for it completely. During this time, asteroid mining will continue to be out of reach.
>After 2100, it may be technologically possible to extract asteroid resources at scale, but will the demand justify it? Populations may begin to decrease just about the time that asteroid mining is able to supplement Earth mining, but at that point it might be more economical to simply recycle used metals that were already mined.

[Anonymous No.16175676]

>>16175653
>ULA wants to get more buisness from the goverment
>ULA is butthurt about SX getting contracts they used to get
WHAT A SHOCKER
THIS IS BIG NEWS

[Anonymous No.16175681]

>Sneak peek of the Axiom space station!
https://x.com/spacesudoer/status/1790404585921864097

[Anonymous No.16175683]

>>16175681
i guess that's the model they work with while they wait for the real hardware to arrive from europe

[Anonymous No.16175685]

>>16175676
you missed the part where they were trying to fabricate evidence that musk was working with the chinese

[Anonymous No.16175690]

>>16175681
Shit is tiny compared to the Vast Haven-1's diameter.

[Anonymous No.16175692]

>>16175676
Go back to ifunny, sharty and r/The_Donald faggot. Didnt read your message

[Anonymous No.16175697]

[Anonymous No.16175705]

>>16175675
>So how many white children do you have?

[Anonymous No.16175717]

https://twitter.com/SolarHam/status/1790427034801299603
Well, the flares start coming
And they don't stop coming

[Anonymous No.16175721]

>BREAKING: Carnival, the world's largest cruise company, today announced that 100% of its ships across its global fleet are now equipped with @SpaceX's Starlink global internet.
>Carnival CEO: "Starlink has been a game-changer. We've already seen a surge in guest satisfaction."

Muskrats just keep winning

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1790418175625994570

[Anonymous No.16175722]

>>16175717
>x8.79
WTF

[Anonymous No.16175726]

>>16175717
That's a map of radio blackouts, I think. CME is over for earth, but the charged particles are following the field down to earth.

[Anonymous No.16175728]

>>16175717
nature's way of destroying AI. either your civilization goes without it or it gets exterminated.

[Anonymous No.16175729]

>>16175717
The Coronal Mass Ejections Will Continue Until Morale Improves.

[Anonymous No.16175730]

>>16175721
huh, isn't the subscription for those something ridiculous? Can't remember, but in the thousands of dollars, right?

[Anonymous No.16175737]

>>16175730
Yeah
Still far cheaper than what they were using before and much higher bandwidth + lower latency

[Anonymous No.16175738]

>>16175730
Single or low double-digit thousands of dollars per month is on the order of single digit dollars per passenger, and bookings are already hundreds to thousands of dollars. I can safely say that they can afford it.

[Anonymous No.16175741]

>>16175730
Maritime internet is in general ridiculously expensive and until Starlink it used to be both expensive and shit because there was little to no competition.
Starlink is legitimately going to achieve a monopoly in that area because their competition is so bad and can't do much to improve apart from dropping prices.
Even shipping companies like Maersk are switching to Starlink because their offer is much better.
I wish it took a screenshot, but last time I was on board, the download speed was about 20 kpbs.

[Anonymous No.16175767]

>>16175728
I am literally a mentat so this works for me

[Anonymous No.16175793]

why only 20 starlinks, didn't it use to be 21 when from california

[Anonymous No.16175794]

>>16175523
Yes hahahaha

[Anonymous No.16175797]

>>16175793
are the rest starshield?

[Anonymous No.16175804]

Starlink T-00:27

>>16175793
Maybe another mystery classified payload. Or maybe this is V2.1 and they upped the mass again.

[Anonymous No.16175811]

can you idiots seriouslt consider what you are saying before flooding this board with spam?

[Anonymous No.16175814]

>>16175811
no nigger

[Anonymous No.16175823]

>>16175811
Take a hike to the airlock bozo

[Anonymous No.16175833]

>>16175814
>>16175823
don't shoot the messenger, but this tranny parade of a general is over, and I will make sure of it.

[Anonymous No.16175838]

[Anonymous No.16175849]

>>16175681
I'd like to take that girl's shirt off

[Anonymous No.16175854]

>>16175838
spacex needs to make a more interesting payload boring. starlink was already a pretty boring payload even before it launched twice a week. they need to do manned deep space missions often enough that they become boring.

[Anonymous No.16175856]

>>16175681
>Sneak peek of a tummy!

[Anonymous No.16175858]

>>16175717
Do i get to see aurora again?

[Anonymous No.16175862]

>>16175854
They should hire Clear.

[Anonymous No.16175863]

sloppy...

[Anonymous No.16175867]

>>16175862
1 2 3 gooooooo for raunchhhhhh

[Anonymous No.16175874]

>>16175863
how HOW are they gonna precision land starship? look at this

[Anonymous No.16175878]

New upskirt just dropped

[Anonymous No.16175881]

>>16175793
I think it varies depending on what orbit they are heading towards.

[Anonymous No.16175886]

>>16175863
yikes. I hope Starships actuators are more precise than Falcons.

[Anonymous No.16175887]

>>16175863
I have concerns and am not a samefag

[Anonymous No.16175891]

>>16175874
>>16175886
>>16175887
stfu yall stupid

[Anonymous No.16175894]

>>16175887
I, too, hate felon musky.

[ELT No.16175905]

The telescope passed the halfway point in its development and construction in July 2023

[Anonymous No.16175907]

>>16175905
thank you telescope bot

[Anonymous No.16175914]

It's going to mock all other telescopes

[Anonymous No.16175917]

mirror segment details

[Anonymous No.16175922]

>>16175917
Oh look, giant milled pieces for no reason

[Anonymous No.16175925]

>>16175922
all I see is giant cast pieces.

[Anonymous No.16175927]

>>16175922
their mass budget is extremely constrained, please understand

[Anonymous No.16175931]

[Anonymous No.16175934]

>>16174525
Imagine the seething when Cybertrucks become the official vehicle for human transport to space.

lmao

[Anonymous No.16175952]

>>16175917
same as JWST there was a nice youtube video how these can adjust in a bunch of DOF
>>16175922
has to be extremely precise. look, machining every piece of the whole telescope using EDM would not justify billion dollar probes.
>>16175925
>>16175931
crazy insanely delusional.

[Anonymous No.16175955]

>>16175952
>there was a nice youtube video how these can adjust in a bunch of DOF
the one with the 3d printed parts.

[Anonymous No.16175960]

>>16175952
You have no experience in machining or welding or casting do you?

[Anonymous No.16175966]

>>16175681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FerFv7BZAwo
>I Tested NASA's New Spacesuit (feat. Axiom Space)

[Anonymous No.16175968]

here we go again
>>16175962
>>16175962
>>16175962
>>16175962
new /sfg/ has arrived

[Anonymous No.16176032]

>>16175894
is it pronounced felon like ellen or felon like feline? feelon

[Anonymous No.16176046]

>>16175268
He needs to avoid travel by helicopter from now on, and even jet travel is risky as they can hack the controls on jets as well as cars.

[Anonymous No.16176135]

GOOD JOB JANNIES
REALLY EARNING YOUR SALARY TODAY YOU HOTPOCKET FUCKS

[Anonymous No.16176138]

[Anonymous No.16176139]

Thank you Janitors. Now I will bake a fresh thread

[Anonymous No.16176142]

huh, they don't usually get rid of the whole thread

[Anonymous No.16176145]

gimme 150 seconds boys

[Anonymous No.16176158]

>>16176153
>>16176153
>>16176153
NEW BREAD

[Anonymous No.16176159]

Staging

>>16176157
>>16176157
>>16176157

[Anonymous No.16176160]

you fucking dumbasses 2 of you baked

[Anonymous No.16176162]

>>16176158
>>16176159

[Anonymous No.16176165]

>>16176160
I was first :)

[Anonymous No.16176208]

>>16176142
that's what happens when you racebait in the OP lol