/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.16170159]

B11 Rollout to WDR Edition

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[Anonymous No.16170162]

solar apocalypse general

[Anonymous No.16170166]

I HATE CLOUDS

[Anonymous No.16170169]

I hope we get hit with a global-economy-crippling geomagnetic storm soon. Normies need to wake up and NASA needs funding for a space weather constellation
Also cancel MSR.

[Anonymous No.16170176]

Geomagnetic storm more like KINOMAGNETIC STORM

[Anonymous No.16170183]

ISS status?

[Anonymous No.16170186]

>>16170183
COOKED

[Anonymous No.16170189]

>>16170183
No survivors

[Anonymous No.16170191]

>>16170183

[Anonymous No.16170204]

gonna take that nsf jewess to mars with me

[Anonymous No.16170207]

>>16170204
she's gonna hit the wall by then

[Anonymous No.16170212]

Reminder that Gravitics is doomed to be the Blue Origin of the CSS market

[Anonymous No.16170217]

>>16170166
Same.
He is worst Final Fantasy.

[Anonymous No.16170221]

>>16170166
more like BOREalis

[Anonymous No.16170226]

>>16170166
I'm happy I got to see it, nothing interesting happens here otherwise

[Anonymous No.16170231]

still waiting for twilight to end here

[Anonymous No.16170242]

nsf thinks may is no longer an option for ift-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJBwWehnTFA

[Anonymous No.16170243]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1789119054319657295

Thenwhy did they launch before the storm him lmao

[Anonymous No.16170249]

>>16170242
NSF are doo doo stinky poop fart heads who didnt see the recent WDR closure for May 16th

[Anonymous No.16170259]

>>16170242
even /sfg/ didn't think it had a serious shot at may

[Anonymous No.16170267]

>>16170242
lol did they seriously think they were gonna launch without doing a WDR first?
Not to mention no sighting of guys with explosives on their backs

[Anonymous No.16170269]

Boeing, you're too drunk to drive. Give me your keys."

SLS+heaviest lander ever+first use of an inflatable heat shield+direct Earth return from surface.

[Anonymous No.16170271]

With Perseverance rover for scale. He's a big Mars lander....

[Anonymous No.16170274]

>>16170269
Kek grifters gonna grift I guess. Suck as much money out as they can

[Anonymous No.16170275]

"So, how about a cost plus contract?"

[Anonymous No.16170282]

>>16170221
The sun will never recover from this.

[Anonymous No.16170285]

>>16170267
>Not to mention no sighting of guys with explosives on their backs
What does Hamas have to do with spaceflight?

[Anonymous No.16170304]

>>16170285
They've built and launched more rockets than most.

[Anonymous No.16170312]

>>16170269
Unrelated but if a crewed SLS blew up, how would it be any safer than all the concerns people had for a manned Ares-I explosion??

[Anonymous No.16170318]

in the city so it looks like a haze to my eye. thankfully there's some color in the photos

[Anonymous No.16170319]

mars sample return is retarded

[Anonymous No.16170325]

>>16170275
I mean I can't hate it too much. At least it's a simple mission architecture unlike the Rube Goldberg contraption proposals.

[Anonymous No.16170343]

[Anonymous No.16170348]

>too many clouds in upstate NY to see anything
I fucking hate this state. GOD i wish i were back in the midwest.

[Anonymous No.16170356]

>>16170318
>Can see it in the city with your own eyes
This is an intense one. Sheesh

[Anonymous No.16170357]

>>16170318
Honestly while green was hazy what impressed me was the red that was properly visible even with naked eye.

[Anonymous No.16170375]

>>16170325
Oh come on anon, we’re talking extreme price differences here. I pulled these numbers from wikipedia:
• SLS costs “>2 billion” per-launch, and that’s simply an internal NASA launch. Imagine Boeing shilling SLS out as a PRIVATE ROCKET to NASA for Mars Sample Return. It could likely be $5 bil or more.
• NASA purchased a Falcon Heavy launch for “$255 million”. Likely fully expended. Long story short: no one knows yet – but the payload in question is the Nancy Grace Roman Telescope. 5T. It uses a leftover NRO mirror, so it’s most likely going to Earth-Sun L2 so it would have to be a fully expended FH.
• NASA purchased a New Glenn launch to Mars for “$20 million” (EscaPADE)
I won’t play with numbers too much here but let’s say Musk offers multiple FH to mars or even just LEO for $200 mil a piece. And Jeff Bezos offers multiple New Glenns for, let’s say, $100 mil a piece to Mars or LEO. You’d get 10 to 25 Falcon Heavy launches (or, 20 to 50 New Glenn launches) for every SINGLE Space Launch System launch.

[Anonymous No.16170385]

>>16170375
The NASA Rube Goldberg contraption that uses multiple flights will balloon in cost far more than the already retarded cost of SLS

[Anonymous No.16170390]

>>16170385
what’s rube goldberg about it? Orbital assembly?

[Anonymous No.16170391]

any news about dead starlinks? I assume the recently launched ones are RIP?

[Anonymous No.16170393]

>>16170391
Sorry if it’s a dumb question but I wonder if the energy was enough to make the atmosphere thicker in LEO. This has happened before, and a whole group of sats burned up because there was just too much drag

[Anonymous No.16170394]

>>16170391
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1789173902289338518
claims they're 'holding up'

[Anonymous No.16170400]

>>16170391
>>16170394
a mars link would be more vulnerable/ need rad shielding.

[Anonymous No.16170481]

>>16170212
a fish ate this guys poop
https://youtu.be/Zlch89wBzJY?t=1m12s

[Anonymous No.16170491]

>>16170269
The crazy thing is SLS cant be operated without crew. So who are they sending on this?

[Anonymous No.16170493]

>>16170393
It definitely is. Pic related is a plot of Bubbles orbital altitude over time, you see that it decays much faster at certain times. This is the solar cycle, the steep drops are at solar maximum. Flares and eruptions heat the exosphere and expand it.
There was a specific case of the Solar Maximum Mission, which was launched by the shuttle to study solar activity. During the 1989 geomagnetic storm SMM's orbit dropped by 5 km. It reentered later that year.

[Anonymous No.16170495]

>>16170400
no, no they wouldnt

[Anonymous No.16170499]

Cant tell if this color is real or not

[Anonymous No.16170504]

looks like it might be real. cant see with my eyes, but a few second exposure and similar color is visible as far south as San Tan Valley
https://x.com/Aaronkluth/status/1789137800207766002

[Anonymous No.16170520]

how do i increase the exposure of my eyes so i can see the colors?

[Anonymous No.16170532]

It's real. That anon who trusted the scientists can get shit on

[Anonymous No.16170541]

>>16170394
so they're done for

[Anonymous No.16170550]

>>16170541
You'd know if they were cooked because there'd be a billion fucking complaints online.

[Anonymous No.16170554]

i work for a power company and i cant begin to explain to you how big a nonissue "geomagnetic storms" are

[Anonymous No.16170561]

>>16170391
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1789119054319657295

[Anonymous No.16170562]

>>16170212
Harsh but (probably) true.

[Anonymous No.16170563]

>>16170394

[Anonymous No.16170566]

>it takes years for charged particles from solar storm to dissipate van allen belts
polaris 1 crew are going to die

[Anonymous No.16170568]

>>16170566
Are they even going anywhere near the van allen belts?

[Anonymous No.16170573]

>>16170566
Everybody dies. At least they'll get to do cool shit off this rock.

[Anonymous No.16170579]

>>16170568
yep, and they are AT MINIMUM going to get dosed with the same radiation as ISS astronauts get in 6 months (in days)

[Anonymous No.16170596]

>>16170568
Yes, the whole mission involves pushing the boundaries of human spaceflight

[Anonymous No.16170600]

We should drain the van allen belts. Yes, it's possible. Yes, we have the tech to do it.

[Anonymous No.16170616]

>>16170568
they are doing that purposefully to test the effects on avionics and humans and do experiments

[Anonymous No.16170621]

>>16170616
what if the avionics fail and strand the crew?

[Anonymous No.16170629]

>>16170600
We just need a really big magnet.

[Anonymous No.16170653]

>>16170621
then SpaceX needs to launch a rescue mission

[Anonymous No.16170660]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1789267122365063625

[Anonymous No.16170678]

>>16170520
just turn up the saturation afterward in gimp

[Anonymous No.16170686]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd5L5cvDXB8&t=4686
India's planning a lander for their next Mars mission

[Anonymous No.16170687]

Any indication that electronics were affected by the CME yesterday? I forgot to hide my hard drives in their cages and the basement before going to sleep.

[Anonymous No.16170690]

>>16170687
Absolutely zero.

[Anonymous No.16170712]

https://twitter.com/NWSSWPC/status/1789274423498842362
>The extreme geomagnetic storm continues and will persist through at least Sunday...

[Anonymous No.16170728]

>>16170176
Excellent photo anon

[Anonymous No.16170729]

explain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9UO9tn4MpI

[Anonymous No.16170731]

>>16170712
Chances I will be able to see it from Italy? Yesterdays forecast seemed pretty confident that I wouldn't be able to see it from here yet it was visible which is bullshit. I need to see it bad,

[Anonymous No.16170732]

>>16170729
My buddy worked on transmitters for years and showed me this trick a couple years ago. I still think radio is just mundane magic that everyone's simply gotten used to.

[Anonymous No.16170739]

>>16170732
I listen to AM radio pretty much all day. Right now Doug Pike is talking about warp drives and mars on AM 790, for anyone in houston lol

[Anonymous No.16170743]

>>16170731
Your odds might not be as good as last night but heliophysists are pretty much giving up on any accurate prediction beyond "it'll be pretty big." I don't think they've ever tried modeling an event that's a pileup of this many individual CMEs. It might be smaller than last nights show but chances of seeing something are going to be good all weekend.

[Anonymous No.16170746]

>>16170212
>not making the Virtual Insanity pose
fucking one job man

[Anonymous No.16170750]

>>16170743
Thanks I guess. Do you know if any pictures of the recent coronal mass ejections like pic related were released?

[Anonymous No.16170756]

https://twitter.com/ESGhound/status/1788972020178313304

[Anonymous No.16170762]

>>16170712
Will this corrupt or flip any bits on my hard drives/flash storage?

[Anonymous No.16170763]

>>16170762
Considering my hard drive has multiple metal enclosures around it I'm doubtful. Also get an SSD.

[Anonymous No.16170765]

>>16170750
I don't think the current sunspot complex has been throwing out any arcs like that, but that might just be because we've been staring right down the barrel at it. Either way, there hasn't been anything quite like that posted to space twitter. We might have better luck as it starts to rotate around the limb and we get a better viewing angle.

[Anonymous No.16170766]

>>16170765
We need a telescope in a sun orbit so we can always get a different angle. Actually isn't that what the Parker probe is doing?

[Anonymous No.16170772]

>>16170763
>Also get an SSD.
That's what flash storage is. Also vulnerable.

[Anonymous No.16170773]

>>16170766
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STEREO

[Anonymous No.16170777]

imagine living on a planet with two stars. there'd be twice as many solar storms.

[Anonymous No.16170778]

can you have satellites in stationary orbits around the sun with a 24.47 day period or is the environment there too rough?

[Anonymous No.16170779]

Another obligatory aurora post, this time of the australis variety. Located in Adelaide, South Australia. I went down to the beach at Semaphore and sat on the sand watching it. Tons of people doing the same thing, despite the cold.

[Anonymous No.16170780]

>>16170779
How well can you see it with the naked eye? And does the aurora move and change shape?

[Anonymous No.16170782]

[Anonymous No.16170784]

>>16170777
Imagine being fortunate enough to live during a stellar encounter with our solar system

[Anonymous No.16170786]

>>16170780
It couldn't be seen anywhere near as clearly with the naked eye. It looked like a red smudge on the southern horizon, fading in and out. The green band at the bottom looked paler and more white-blue too and was a lot harder to see.

Pic related is a photo I took before I'd realised the exposure times were wrong. Make the image dimmer and it'd be similar to what could be seen with the eye. It was still impressive though, occasionally there'd be big shafts of red reaching up in to the sky above us.

[Anonymous No.16170788]

[Anonymous No.16170790]

You can see the radio blackout from the storms on SDR, this is about a 20 hour plot.

[Anonymous No.16170791]

>>16170786
>occasionally there'd be big shafts of red reaching up in to the sky above us.
kino

[Anonymous No.16170792]

And I also took the opportunity to do some stargazing. Saw the Starlink train earlier tonight, some other random satellite that I don't know what the fuck it was, a few shooting stars. Luv me southern cross me.

[Anonymous No.16170797]

Is a hot air baloon on Jupiter possible? Similar to how they did the floating baloons on Venus.

[Anonymous No.16170799]

>>16170554
they're a nonissue because a lot of people have spent a lot of hours making them a nonissue
it's a solved problem now

[Anonymous No.16170800]

>>16170756
I spend zero hours and zero minutes a day thinking about elon musk

[Anonymous No.16170801]

>>16170629
I'm a fan of the "literally just a really big wire" solution

[Anonymous No.16170804]

>>16170797
no

[Anonymous No.16170805]

>>16170800
What about SpaceX (not Elon)?

[Anonymous No.16170809]

5 road closures for tower segments to the LC. Tower 2 is going up soon bros.

[Anonymous No.16170820]

>>16170809
is it going to replace the suborbital pad that got removed?

[Anonymous No.16170859]

>>16170820
Yah suborbital era is getting demolished, but testing will likely further be at Masseys from now on because of that new flame trench test stand

[Anonymous No.16170877]

>>16170687
You'd know.

[Anonymous No.16170878]

Wtf are they doing with the helicopter?

[Anonymous No.16170899]

>>16170878
Putting in AC units brotha

[Anonymous No.16170916]

>>16170554
try that saying that when an X45 heads our way

[Anonymous No.16170921]

>>16170878
dropping AC units on beetles

[Anonymous No.16170922]

>>16170778
no complex object can survive long term solar flux whilst close enough to a star to collect meaningful energy. It's why dyson spheres dont exist.

[Anonymous No.16170925]

please cease using the beetle meme.

[Anonymous No.16170926]

>>16170922
dyson spheres are the stupidest thing ever, one hour of reading about the dynamic solar environment/corona/unpredictability of the solar wind shows why

[Anonymous No.16170928]

Can't wait to see how tall trees will grow on the moon.

[Anonymous No.16170929]

[Anonymous No.16170933]

>>16170926
> solar wind gusts destroy solid objects because...THEY JUST DO OK!!

[Anonymous No.16170945]

>>16170922
>>16170926
Absolute seethe over their doomposting amounting to absolutely nothing. Stellar weather confirmed a complete nothingburger that can be handled with current technology.

[Anonymous No.16170955]

>>16170945
Try saying that when an X45 hits, this storm was max X4

[Anonymous No.16170956]

>>16170926
The other day I was eating crackers and held one up to the light oscillating it slightly back and forth and thought "you could build a flat disc a few miles across and rotate it with a wobble to give it a day/night cycle, then surround a star with millions of them to fit a population of trillions"
They were store-brand ritz btw

[Anonymous No.16170958]

>>16170945
this. Clickbait youtube videos are to blame for all the doomposting. In a same style nuclear war would never cause an extinction.

[Anonymous No.16170959]

Saturn if it were methane powered

[Anonymous No.16170963]

>>16170958
what clickbait videos lol? projection much?
clickbait videos are 90% spacex and space futurism shills. muh neuman probes and stuff.

[Anonymous No.16170966]

>>16170963
tons of videos saying a solar storm would end civilizations. Meanwhile the thinnest layer of metal protects electronics completely.

[Anonymous No.16170970]

I want the flaretards to leave

[Anonymous No.16170974]

WTFF bros it was just like an angel from Evangelion

[Anonymous No.16170989]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dswk_ZRboq8

[Anonymous No.16170990]

>>16170958
>nuclear war wouldn't cause an extinction
Yes, but it would fuck everything into the dirt for god knows how many years, we might never fully recover

[Anonymous No.16170993]

>>16170925
no

[Anonymous No.16170996]

>>16170956
Mmmm, good cracker!

[Anonymous No.16170998]

>>16170989
simulation side by side with the stream

[Anonymous No.16171000]

>>16170762
if you care about that use a filesystem with checksums and RAID your shit
you're more likely to get bit flips from a bad temperature sensor or a bad fan than gay space aliens anyway

[Anonymous No.16171008]

>>16170989
>>16170998
Why do these autistic keyboard engineers insist on making retarded renders that are ultimately proven to be wrong? Stop giving them attention.

[Anonymous No.16171010]

>>16170956
based generic packaged food enjoyer

[Anonymous No.16171015]

I'm partially red-green colorblind and live in an area with lots of light pollution so it looked basically monochrome naked eye. The motion was beautiful though. I hope more people got shots from the PNW.

[Anonymous No.16171023]

>>16171008
I find the speculation in these more interesting than reading about niggers or the world ending, so I think it is a nice change of pace for the thread

[Anonymous No.16171046]

>>16171015
any chance of it happening again tonight? I didnt see it yesterday

[Anonymous No.16171048]

>>16171046
pretty good shot

[Anonymous No.16171049]

>>16171046
https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/auroral-activity.html
The "aural oval" is a lot smaller than it was last night, but it appears to change hour by hour. Maybe it'll extend south again as night approaches? It rained here yesterday and I didn't get to see shit except clouds.

[Anonymous No.16171050]

>>16171046
its a multi day event. we're on day 2 or 3.

[Anonymous No.16171051]

>>16170970
Theyre /pol/ and /x/ conspiracy tourists

[Anonymous No.16171077]

>>16170756
The degree of seethe is genuinely incredible

[Anonymous No.16171079]

>solar eclipses
>geomagnetic storms
what's next for 2024?

[Anonymous No.16171082]

>>16171079
daytime visible supernova

[Anonymous No.16171086]

>>16171082
followed by the ozone being stripped by a pulsar

[Anonymous No.16171087]

If venus and mars looked like this, how would your life have changed?

[Anonymous No.16171088]

>>16171079
first contact

[Anonymous No.16171089]

>>16171087
Life would be a little more exciting

[Anonymous No.16171095]

>>16171087
I would have more hope for the universe and its ability to support life long-term. Though for all we know this used to be the case in our solar system. It's only that Earth is the last in line to become lifeless.

[Anonymous No.16171096]

>>16171087
>go to venus and mars
>no oil
>cant produce fuel
>cant return
ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.16171105]

>>16171096
rockets run on ethanol. ethanol is made of corn. corn grows on mars

[Anonymous No.16171108]

>>16171096
the gravity well that is venus would be an almost insurmountable problem alone. If you managed to land a Starship on Venus, you’d need a Super Heavy to get back to orbit

[Anonymous No.16171111]

>>16171087
I would have become a aerospace technician and book the first flight I can to Mars (Chinese colony).

[Anonymous No.16171114]

>>16171087
Every time I remember that I don't live in an alternate world where Venus is an Anglo-Japanese colonized world full of high-trust community fishing villages, I experience immense suffering.

[Anonymous No.16171119]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1789366024019886496
>Starships preparing for spaceflight

[Anonymous No.16171120]

>>16171114
>anglo-japanese
It's Chinese.

[Anonymous No.16171121]

>>16171077
its only going to get worse

[Anonymous No.16171123]

>>16171120
what's that orange desert, somewhere in mongolia? you know mars is green, right?

[Anonymous No.16171125]

>>16171120
Venus, you mongrel

[Anonymous No.16171129]

>>16171125
Rightfully Soviet

[Anonymous No.16171131]

3-5 weeks for OFT-4

[Anonymous No.16171134]

>>16171131
April 7yh

[Anonymous No.16171136]

>>16171131
>no mention of the uncontrolled roll
>no fixes
>no hope of victory
Its so over.

[Anonymous No.16171139]

>>16171119
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1789367327290712532

3-5 weeks until flight 4

[Anonymous No.16171140]

>>16171111
>every chud and brainlet on /sci/ and the rest of the world has the same idea

You do realize you’d be doing manual labor with the pajeets like serfs if they even let you go at all.

[Anonymous No.16171141]

>>16171108
Planets are just a fancy term for a gravity prison. There is a reason shy for advanced civilizations, habitats in space would be preferable.

[Anonymous No.16171142]

>>16171136
getting further means fixing uncontrolled roll

[Anonymous No.16171143]

>>16171114
Venus belongs to the communists unfortunately

[Anonymous No.16171145]

>>16171142
he didnt even mention booster or ship making it to earth softly, which means its not going to happen.

[Anonymous No.16171146]

mars will become ai paradise, free from humans

[Anonymous No.16171152]

>>16171143
Venus melted all their shit, so it's fine.

[Anonymous No.16171153]

>>16170343
Thanks Doc

[Anonymous No.16171155]

Should I dropname /sfg/ on /v/?

[Anonymous No.16171157]

>>16171155
No, goddamn you.

[Anonymous No.16171159]

>>16171155
No, fuck off. Most other boards don't know this place exists (rest of /sci/ acts as smokescreen), and that's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.16171162]

>>16171142
instead of fixing the roll, they're just putting tiles on both sides

[Anonymous No.16171163]

>>16171155
You saw the mars thread didn't you?

[Anonymous No.16171166]

>>16171155
no, no more KSPfags

[Anonymous No.16171167]

>>16171163
Possibly.
I'm surprised schizos haven't swarmed it yet.

[Anonymous No.16171168]

>>16171087
Elins on Venus, Yordles(mostly females) on mars.

[Anonymous No.16171170]

>>16171159
>rest of /sci/ acts as smokescreen
Until we hit the pump limit, /sfg/ is always on the 1st page.

[Anonymous No.16171179]

>>16171096
>oil isn't abiogenically produced
lol

[Anonymous No.16171188]

>>16171079
According to some theories, if a gamma-ray burst were to occur within about 200 light-years of Earth, and the jets were pointed directly at us, our planet would be vaporized. At greater distances, but still in the Milky Way, the radiation would sterilize all life on the side of the Earth pointing toward the burst.

[Anonymous No.16171189]

>>16171087
I would have a fish like body due to being adapted to life on Mars.

[Anonymous No.16171191]

>>16171131
See ya in 15 weeks.

[Anonymous No.16171193]

>>16171189
and I would fuck you and call you mermaid

[Anonymous No.16171195]

>>16171193
eat cock faggot

[Anonymous No.16171196]

>>16171188
get us off this planet NOW

[Anonymous No.16171199]

>>16171188
how wide are gamma ray bursts? if we got hit would mars get hit too?

[Anonymous No.16171206]

>>16171139
>or at least further than last time.
Bold objectives.

[Anonymous No.16171215]

>>16170756
>>16170800
I spend zero hours and zero minutes a day thinking about ESG Hound, Spacegay5, or tendert0e. Until some faggot posts their latest spew, that is. Then I laugh.

[Anonymous No.16171216]

>>16171131

[Anonymous No.16171218]

>>16171199
almost certainly. like i have no issue if someone wants to use the multiplanetary species logic as the basis for pushing out, but the premise seems unsound to me. almost every true extinction-level event we can conceive of for earth would also be an extinction-level event for mars. it doesn't do much to offload your existential risk.

[Anonymous No.16171220]

>>16171215
You and me could probably have beers.
What's your stance on hydrolox?

[Anonymous No.16171223]

>>16171220
not him but I think it's an excellent fuel

[Anonymous No.16171224]

>>16171218
what about meteor strike.

[Anonymous No.16171227]

>>16171223
You go in the pisslock.

[Anonymous No.16171228]

>>16171220
Hydrolox is trash. Hydrogen is a shitty fuel because of how much you have to baby it, whether for rockets or for cars. It even throws a tantrum as you try to liquefy it. And most hydrogen isn't "green", it's been cracked from methane.

[Anonymous No.16171229]

B11 finished its lift on to the stand, but none of you care about that because youre tourists here for (You)s

[Anonymous No.16171230]

>>16171228
Cheers!

[Anonymous No.16171231]

>>16171229
I don't care about that because starship preparations are old hat. it gets one or two more interesting test launches then a few commercial launches then only interesting payloads are interesting

[Anonymous No.16171232]

>>16171224
i just don't see asteroid impacts as a serious threat going forward. building up an infrastructure to detect and deflect any civilization-menacing rocks would be much cheaper than setting up a self-sustaining mars colony - i think we've got the detection part mostly down on a miniscule budget. the only exception might be interstellar ones travelling at relativistic velocities.

[Anonymous No.16171234]

>>16171218
>almost every true extinction-level event we can conceive of for earth would also be an extinction-level event for mars.
Any examples except for gamma ray bursts and rogue Jupiter flying by?

[Anonymous No.16171245]

>>16171234
besides all the astronomical scenarios, for anything involving man-caused extinction - skynet/gray goo AGI, some sorta doomsday machine nuclear holocaust deliberately designed to make earth unliveable, genetically engineered bioweapons - the chances of a martian colony escaping earth's fate seem slim at best.

[Anonymous No.16171248]

>>16171231
Ok then why dont you just go back now then since you wont care about rocketry at all then once a few more launches are put out. Fucking tourist basement dweller wont be doing SHIT to get to space. Should be a requirement that you must work in spaceflight or a company directly adjacent to it.

[Anonymous No.16171267]

>>16171119
>spaceflight
Reminder that this spelling is now canon and the arguing can stop.

[Anonymous No.16171274]

>>16171245
>doomsday machine nuclear holocaust deliberately designed to make earth unliveable
explain

[Anonymous No.16171275]

>it's 2073
>your a earther immigrating to mars because earth has pretty much become brazil 2.0
>your first night on mars you decide to go to the local pub
>there this low G martian woman walks up to you and slaps your ass while telling you universal income earth babies arent welcome here.
What do you do?

[Anonymous No.16171276]

>>16171248
sorry babe. I've been here for years. starship WDRs just ain't novel anymore. test flights are on thin ice

[Anonymous No.16171283]

>>16171275
rizz her up

[Anonymous No.16171284]

>>16171275

[Anonymous No.16171289]

May I see the aurora?

[Anonymous No.16171292]

>>16171275
An untrained 13 year old boy would be able to take her down easily, gravity assist or not. I would neither expect such a tall organism to live for very long. Nonetheless, why are we not harvesting the genetic template of subjects such as these?

[Anonymous No.16171293]

>>16171289
No.

[Anonymous No.16171297]

>>16171275

[Anonymous No.16171302]

>>16171274
i just had to throw in the caveat stuff because nuclear war under current strategic doctrines wouldn't come even close to wiping out humanity, but it's conceivable that a country might want to build something that could conceivably wipe out humanity as a deterrent. it's the dr. strangelove scenario, and what terrified kubrick is that it can be a rational play to win the game of chicken under game theory. the USAF considered stuff along those lines in the past, like the 8-gigaton doomsday orion that could annihilate the soviet union in the event of a successful nuclear strike against the united states.
if you have a world war on that scale, then it'd be extremely hard for mars to not be involved and mars wouldn't have defense systems nearly as comprehensive as earth nations.
not saying any of this is likely to happen, i think it's extremely unlikely to happen. but it's just an explanation for why i don't think colonizing mars is a very cost-effective way to reduce the risk of nuclear annihilation.

[Anonymous No.16171304]

>>16171297
>ukrainian biolab mutants are real

[Anonymous No.16171305]

>>16171302
>picrel
yikes.
Also reminder that superpowers have already positioned nukes in each other territories.

[Anonymous No.16171310]

>Super Heavy booster for Flight 4 moving to the pad at Starbase

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1789399483198935209

[Anonymous No.16171313]

>>16170756
At some point feel bad for their mental health. People whose sole existence is seething about people

[Anonymous No.16171319]

[Anonymous No.16171331]

I'm out here in Eastern Warsaw right now and I haven't been able to see shit, the other night there was a ton of haze and cloud cover, tonight I'm probably just imagining things again when thinking there was some pink in the sky, but now all I get is light pollution.

Also is it just me or is Arcturus the brightest object in the night sky right now? I'm staring right at it next to the big dipper and all the other stars seem to pale in comparison. With the exception of whatever the hell satellite that just flew past.

[Anonymous No.16171332]

>>16171331
>I haven't been able to see shit
Because it's not visible
https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/

[Anonymous No.16171335]

>>16171332
Last night people in Zakopane much further south were apparently able to see it however.

[Anonymous No.16171336]

Would you ride in this reputable spacecraft

[Anonymous No.16171337]

>>16171335
yes because last night it was G5 and now it's G3

[Anonymous No.16171340]

>>16171336
yea

[Anonymous No.16171342]

>>16171331
>>16171331
Warsaw here too, we're out of luck. The polarity of solar wind has flipped so no aurora for now, but it might change any hour because we're expecting two large CMEs (solar farts) around 22:00-00:00 UTC so keep on checking the spaceweatherlive.com graphs and hope for the best. Good luck!

[Anonymous No.16171343]

[Anonymous No.16171344]

>>16171335
https://twitter.com/aniwanderlust/status/1789092970089619521
Last night people in the Galapagos were seeing Aurora on the northern horizon

[Anonymous No.16171351]

>>16171342
Croatiafag here, can't see shit either. It's so over I'll have to travel to Norway to see this stuff.

[Anonymous No.16171352]

>>16171351
Don't worry, the predictions are optimistic
https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/wsa-enlil-solar-wind-prediction

[Anonymous No.16171355]

>>16171352
What does this mean and when will I be able to see it from Croatia?

[Anonymous No.16171356]

>>16171351
Stay optimistic, the latest models are promising

[Anonymous No.16171358]

>>16171351
Not fully overcast here tonight, might even see it in my part of Norway. Been a very long time since we last had.

[Anonymous No.16171359]

>>16171131
>>16171216
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1789399483198935209/photo/3

[Anonymous No.16171372]

>>16171355
The topmost green graph is what we want to be as high as possible, time is for UTC (0, Croatia is +2 I think?). That first peak is yesterday, I've circled the expected additional 'hits' that should arrive within 1-2 hours

[Anonymous No.16171377]

>>16171372
>>16171355
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.16171387]

>>16171232
that is the wrong way to think about this
how would you build up infrastructure to detect and deflect a civilization menacing rock if you didn't already have a big space industry? you wouldn't
how are you going to build a big space industry in the first place? have some grand goal like colonizing mars
colonizing mars itself is kind of irrelevant in this respect, it works as a forcing function to make space technology cheaper, better and more widespread and after a colony is established the tech is going to keep improving due to economic factors but if you don't get far enough in that development, you could slide back into stagnation like what happened after apollo
a completely separate civilization or one that is far enough to be mostly separate would serve as a foundation to build back civilization if there was a devastating war on earth for instance or some kind of general decay and dark age for one reason or another (which is not impossible at all, civilizations rise and fall)
what I think Musk is most worried about in the relatively near term is this civilizational decay in the west, basically extinctionists

[Anonymous No.16171388]

>>16171245
doesn't need to be completely unlivable for us to go back to the stone age

[Anonymous No.16171414]

[Anonymous No.16171415]

will his records ever be broken?

[Anonymous No.16171422]

>>16171166

[Anonymous No.16171423]

>>16171232
getting shot does tend to be a difficult problem to mitigate, yeah

[Anonymous No.16171424]

>>16171414
That dirty slut has been squirting all over us for two days now.

[Anonymous No.16171432]

>>16171087
There would have been a LOT more space exploration funding after the first probes would have gone there that would have sustained Apollo level funding, so a lot of boomers and millenials who would have gone into IT would have worked in the aerospace industry instead.

[Anonymous No.16171433]

>>16171131
Musk's last estimate for IFT 3 was 6 days ahead of schedule, so we'll say June 7th-21st.
Which one launches first, IFT 4, H3 launch 3 or Ariane 6?

[Anonymous No.16171458]

>>16171433
you also have polaris dawn in the second half of june

[Anonymous No.16171459]

>>16171387
i mean i agree with everything you have to say and i wish we'd put a lot more resources into colonizing mars. and on top of all that, becoming an multistellar species certainly would mitigate extinction risk and a mars colony is a necessary step towards that. at the end of the day i'm just glad elon is putting in the sort of work that should have been done 50 years ago, even if i don't think his stated rationale holds water.
>>16171388
i'd still wager on an earth bombed back to the stone age attaining modern day industrial capacity faster than any martian colony we could build in this century would.
>>16171432
mariner 4 may have done more to kill a manned mars program than the vietnam war.

[Anonymous No.16171466]

lol I forgot that “the big one” hit Earth on September 11 in rendezvous with rama

[Anonymous No.16171475]

>>16171432
also if it weren't for a little disagreement in SE Asia
Nixon may have gone thumbs down on space funding, but it was to pay for Johnson's war.

[Anonymous No.16171486]

>>16171475
yeah but apollo only got the funding it needed in the first place because johnson saw a chance to set up a southern tech belt to suck up money into states with friendly senators. it's why there are 5 nasa centers named for democratic politicians and 0 for republicans. the soviets were clearly falling behind by 1966 and with anyone else, including kennedy, the cuts would've come earlier and been more severe.

[Anonymous No.16171488]

>>16171459
>i'd still wager on an earth bombed back to the stone age attaining modern day industrial capacity faster than any martian colony we could build in this century would.
why? on mars you would have a self-sustaining colony that is already at modern day tech if not better, on the other hand you have people hunter gathering and it might take hundreds if not thousands of years to get back to where things where before the nuclear war
of course you would need to assume mars was self-sustaining already because otherwise mars would die eventually as well if earth was nuked back to the stone age

[Anonymous No.16171505]

>>16171488
At that point Mars would simply recolonize Earth.

[Anonymous No.16171508]

you guys should watch turn a gundam

[Anonymous No.16171510]

>>16171488
even if humans have to go back to being hunter gatherers for centuries they're still not going to forget everything that we've learned. even if it's very basic stuff like germ theory and newtonian physics, it's a much higher baseline to start from than any other dark age in history. we'd have a bunch of scrap metal in city ruins to use, and on earth in that situation repopulation is just a matter of fucking. on mars (at least in the near term) you're going to be severely resource-constrained no matter what, and you can only expand your population as fast as you can build new habitats and agriculture. i just can't see how mars's population would grow faster than earth's in a case like that.

[Anonymous No.16171522]

>>16171508
who turns into a gundam

[Anonymous No.16171536]

In a perfect world: Polaris II will be a Hubble servicing mission. And Polaris III will be Jared+crew testing out HLS moonship in LEO.

[Anonymous No.16171539]

>>16171536
Polaris is actually an important adjacent company for Starship testing. Very excited now that they announced stuff past Dawn, seems like a competitor for Axiom. Hopeful

[Anonymous No.16171565]

>>16171510
>on mars (at least in the near term) you're going to be severely resource-constrained no matter what,
Why though
Mars has every raw material you need, just lying around mostly. It's never been mined before.

[Anonymous No.16171569]

>>16171108
Not quite, Venus escape velocity is 10.3 km/s compared to 11.2 for Earth. Starship could do it alone.

[Anonymous No.16171570]

>>16171141
Advanced civilizations have zero problems moving in and out of gravity wells at will. Only primitives find it difficult.

[Anonymous No.16171573]

>>16171565
even if all the material you'll ever need is just lying on the ground it's going to take time and effort to turn that into infrastructure

[Anonymous No.16171575]

China launched a Long March 4C carrying "Shiyan 23," an almost completely unelaborated "space environment detection" satellite.

[Anonymous No.16171613]

Alright boys, what's the forecast for tonight?

[Anonymous No.16171622]

>>16171613
Taco Bell for me because fucking New Mexico, only the faintest hue of purp here

[Anonymous No.16171629]

>>16171622
Why dont you go to Blake's?

[Anonymous No.16171633]

>>16171629
BECAUSE I HAVE TB APP POINTS TO SPEND AND I'M A FAT FUCK ALRIGHT

[Anonymous No.16171642]

>>16171570
name these zero problem methods anon

[Anonymous No.16171650]

>>16171575

[Anonymous No.16171651]

>>16171613
Kp6/G2. All the real big fireworks tonight look like they're happening in the southern hemisphere anyway.

[Anonymous No.16171661]

>>16171651
shame, i got a cheap tripod for some long exposures

[Anonymous No.16171690]

>>16171575
Military

[Anonymous No.16171694]

Anyone else really curious what booba look like in space, like do they constantly move and shift or constantly point up

[Anonymous No.16171716]

>>16171651
what site are you using?

[Anonymous No.16171719]

>>16171716
https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/auroral-activity.html

[Anonymous No.16171725]

>>16171694
apparently they can get pretty swolen because the blood flow doesn't have to fight against gravity

[Anonymous No.16171736]

>>16171725
do we have documented evidence of this?

[Anonymous No.16171745]

>>16171736
>do we have documented evidence of this?
Pictures, especially, would be the best form of documentation here.

[Anonymous No.16171748]

>>16171613
Cloudy with a chance of meatballs

[Anonymous No.16171759]

What are the next plobes in the coming years ? I know europa clipper and viper are going to be launches this year but whats next

[Anonymous No.16171761]

>>16171759
no more plobes, all plobes cancelled

money save now

[Anonymous No.16171764]

>>16171761
All the money to Artemis please, we need more jobs for the elections

[Anonymous No.16171765]

>>16171764
$L$

[Anonymous No.16171770]

[Anonymous No.16171792]

How would you colonize inner Antarctica? Is it even possible?

[Anonymous No.16171835]

>>16171642
Reusable Rocket

[Anonymous No.16171839]

>>16171792
Much tougher than Mars. All you gain is atmosphere in return for nothing but ice for miles in every direction including down.

[Anonymous No.16171867]

>>16171792
Seed it with dark algae dropped by plane

[Anonymous No.16171877]

>>16171275
I think I remember this from The Expanse

[Anonymous No.16171881]

>>16171573
Ideally you’d use robots. Perhaps stand up factories to mass produce robots/manufacturing equipment first. The main difficulty is getting shit to mars, not doing things once we’re there. I’m curious to know what a realistic projection for $/kg in 2034 will look like.

[Anonymous No.16171886]

>>16171716
Reminder that Berger leads a double life as a weatherman

[Anonymous No.16171898]

Are we landing on the moon before 2030?

[Anonymous No.16171899]

>>16171510
>they're still not going to forget everything that we've learned. even if it's very basic stuff like germ theory and newtonian physics

Optimistic lmao, especially that all information will be vaporised when the internet goes bye bye and whats left of the library system will be ransacked for firewood. Also all the easily accessible oil has been taken. There is no cheap energy form to bootstrap industrialisation now.

[Anonymous No.16171905]

>>16171877
Hot

[Anonymous No.16171908]

>>16171905
Of course an Expanse watcher likes muttoid women

[Anonymous No.16171913]

im shitting Im shitting! IM SHITTING AAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.16171914]

>>16171839
It's crazy to think that space is actually less hostile than salt water or a glacier in some ways.

[Anonymous No.16171919]

https://x.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1789533159182209255
S29 rollout habbening stack to WDR

[Anonymous No.16171926]

>>16171919
launch 31st may to quell the naysayers

[Anonymous No.16171929]

>>16171505
That was the point and o e of the reasons to become multiplanetary

[Anonymous No.16171932]

Anyone here wanna talk about the new suits?

[Anonymous No.16171933]

>>16171932
Hard to talk about them without really knowing what's properly in them, but the profile is remarkably slim and the rotation joints that firm up under pressure sound like a really clever design that would be very interesting to see. I can't imagine they're hard wearing systems, though, and I wouldn't be surprised if they broke down relatively quickly.

[Anonymous No.16171936]

>>16171908
That's a purebred Polynesian ser

[Anonymous No.16171942]

>>16171914
Anyone who has ever owned a boat can tell you how bullshit saltwater is. Vaccuum is chill as fuck compared to the ocean

>t. Boat owner

[Anonymous No.16171950]

Any luck NA bros? I had a walk around and nothing today.

[Anonymous No.16171958]

>>16171936
No it's not. She's got English and abbo ancestry.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4213877/?ref_=tt_cl_i_6

[Anonymous No.16171959]

>>16171950
The space weather isn't supposed to get interesting for another four to five hours.

[Anonymous No.16171961]

>>16171950
I didn't see much until after 1am Pacific last night. Nothing so far tonight.

[Anonymous No.16171995]

>>16171950
They've been dead all night for everyone but polarfags. The next big wave comes for eurofag night time I guess.

[Anonymous No.16171997]

>>16171995
is even bigger one coming today?

[Anonymous No.16171999]

>>16171997
yep
last one was kp8, this is kp9 coming

[Anonymous No.16172002]

Why is Venus constantly depicted as bright orange/yellow in tis texture map and atmosphere-less depictions when the actual surface according to various probes and photos from Venera is like 90% basalt and volcanic rock? I am aware the surface color is likely impossible to map from orbit, but even as a child I knew something was wrong with the way they depicted Venus without its atmosphere (namely that it was false color).

Realistically it should be a mixture of dark gray to black with some yellow/orange tint to it going off the composition and color data from Venera photographs. Same goes for the atmosphere, people depict it as a creamy or tan color when it is actually mostly just a white marble.

http://mentallandscape.com/C_CatalogVenus.htm

[Anonymous No.16172008]

>>16171995
Stans and Russia, maybe NA might see something. Sun doesn't set in time in Europe for a good show based on that.

https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/aurora-30-minute-forecast

[Anonymous No.16172012]

Apparently mercury has subsurface ice and other volatiles. I thought it was just a chunk of rock.

[Anonymous No.16172024]

>>16172012
That's been known for a while. Maybe the chunk of rock was the thing you were living under lol

[Anonymous No.16172025]

Who're the best YouTubers that cover events in the spaceflight industry and maybe even historical stuff?

[Anonymous No.16172029]

>>16172025
>Who're
Everyday Astronaut might be the best match for you

[Anonymous No.16172030]

>>16172029
>noo you can't use contractions nooo

[Anonymous No.16172032]

>>16172025
>maybe even historical stuff

[Anonymous No.16172034]

>>16172030
I meant Estro is a whore, esl here lol

[Anonymous No.16172053]

>>16171466
kek

[Anonymous No.16172054]

>>16171508
For the kino spacehook? Yes everyone should watch turn a gundam

[Anonymous No.16172057]

>>16171898
"We" aren't, but maybe some astronauts will (probably chinese ones)

[Anonymous No.16172058]

>>16172002
It's mostly use of false color radar maps from Magellan data or IR telescope pics of the clouds.

[Anonymous No.16172134]

>>16172002
>>16172058
Part of me always figures that seeing true color images of various planets would be disappointing relative to how the planets and stars are perceived in fanon but honestly I think it still looks cool.

[Anonymous No.16172167]

>>16172032
Why would he photo this? Does he know?

[Anonymous No.16172187]

>>16170990
Disasters always cause life to grow back stronger, the same is true of civilization.

[Anonymous No.16172219]

>>16172002
Sky looks yellow in the Venera pics so you want some yellow in there to give the right vibe, even if the ground is black.

[Anonymous No.16172316]

>>16172012
you thought wrong

[Anonymous No.16172355]

>>16172032
cute feet

[Anonymous No.16172368]

>>16172355
Please jump out of the nearest available airlock as soon as possible

[Anonymous No.16172384]

>Is China ahead of the US in the new race for the moon?
https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/4656404-is-china-ahead-of-the-us-in-the-new-race-for-the-moon/

[Anonymous No.16172391]

>>16172384
>the hill
Nobody wants to see this normie slop

[Anonymous No.16172393]

>>16172384
>Recently, China launched its latest robotic lunar lander, the Chang’e 6, headed for a sample return mission on the far side of the moon.

>Greg Autry, the coauthor of a new space policy book, “Red Moon Rising,” noticed something interesting about the probe’s destination. He pointed out that it would land “in the resource-rich South Pole-Aitken (SPA) basin,” aiming for “a crater called ‘Apollo’ which is named in honor of America’s great lunar achievement.”

>“Apollo’s interior and adjacent craters are named for Apollo astronauts and memorialize deceased NASA employees including the lost crew of the Space Shuttle Columbia,” Autry noted

>He finds that this is no coincidence. “Chang’e 6 will literally raise a communist Chinese flag there. The Chinese are extremely careful with protocol, any small slight is intentional.”

>Leaving aside the slight to the United States, the Chinese lunar effort is going quite well, with three successful landing missions and a fourth on the way.

>How does the West, including signatories of the Artemis Accords, stand up against the Chinese accomplishments? It turns out that the United States and its commercial and international partners are behind in the current race to the moon.

>As for crewed lunar landings, NASA still schedules Artemis III for late 2026. But because of challenges developing the SpaceX Starship Human Landing System and the spacesuits the astronauts will wear on the lunar surface, plus problems with the Orion capsule’s heat shield, no one will be surprised if the next American lunar landing is pushed back a year or two.

[Anonymous No.16172457]

Is today the big day?

[Anonymous No.16172458]

>>16172457
No

[Anonymous No.16172460]

>China land spaceship on the Moon
>claim that they find no evidence of US landing at apollo site
niggas is this real or fake news by wu mao?

[Anonymous No.16172462]

>>16172457
Starship test in two hours

[Anonymous No.16172512]

>>16172025
Curious Marc: documenting restorations of exceptional vintage electronics and early computers, space hardware : https://www.youtube.com/@CuriousMarc
e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-_93BVApb59BG83Qer5OsLzBMBQr3tLP

[Anonymous No.16172523]

hey /sfg/, I just want you to know that we have the technology to make a Hubble onahole. The form factor of the Hubble telescope is pretty close to that of an onahole. Would you fuck it?

[Anonymous No.16172527]

>>16172355
that daughter of his has to have exceptional feet

[Anonymous No.16172531]

>>16170929
Falcon 9 and crewed Dragon launching from Starbase??

[Anonymous No.16172542]

we need international laws on what counts as international space like we have for what counts as international waters. artemis accords arent getting adopted by every nation, so we need a better system for everyone.

[Anonymous No.16172557]

https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2020/july/pioneer-rocket-development

[Anonymous No.16172559]

>>16172542
>we need more international laws
>we need more regulation
No

[Anonymous No.16172568]

What's the significance of the speed of the solar wind?

[Anonymous No.16172570]

>>16172568
None

[Anonymous No.16172574]

>>16172568
good weather for plasma magnet chads

[Anonymous No.16172585]

https://x.com/thomaslmatula/status/1789672975832150482
Reminder that He-3 is still a meme mining operation reliant on a two more decades technology to even be sold. This along with no need to be mined on the moon.

[Anonymous No.16172588]

>>16172585
https://x.com/thomaslmatula/status/1789714745244668074
An 'akchually' has been found. Apparantly its a $700m/yr market globally. Still not enough to justify mining on the moon, most of the demand was predicted to come from fusion but that is again a meme technology that wont be used at scale for another 100 years and will probably at some point still be beat out by something else.

[Anonymous No.16172594]

geomagretic storm

[Anonymous No.16172598]

>>16172594
China numbah wan

[Anonymous No.16172617]

>>16171958
Well that's disappointing, still a hot accent and a nice ass

[Anonymous No.16172628]

>>16171908
What's wrong with The Expanse, it's one of the better modern sci Fi dramas

[Anonymous No.16172631]

>>16172628
The problem is that Belters exist.

[Anonymous No.16172645]

>>16172631
Yeah a worldbuilding problem. It's so blindingly obvious to have 1g centrifuge stations for living and leaving the rock hopping or moon ops for shift work like ISS missions that the only reason you wouldn't do that is the will of the author. Then you'd have a better justification for Martian paranoia and desire to fuck off through the ring to Earthlike exoplanets, with most of their people being the weakest in the system, down a well deep enough to make orbital commuting for all work impossible yet shallow enough to sap their strength.

[Anonymous No.16172650]

>>16172645
normies aren't ready for spinchad kino

[Anonymous No.16172657]

>>16172650
Babylon 5 is still one of the more popular TV scifi series out there, even if they got the coriolis physics wrong. People do enjoy spinhab settings if the plot, characters, casting, music, and effects are all good.

[Anonymous No.16172677]

25 minutes to launch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X6R2sWMJ-o

[Anonymous No.16172681]

idk what to do guys

[Anonymous No.16172683]

>>16172681
play some tf2 while listening to Carrying The Fire audiobook

[Anonymous No.16172688]

>>16172681
If theres nothing interesting to post about then dont post. This increases post quality as things that are off topic or baiting are usually posted out of boredom. There is always something interesting to post about nowadays in spaceflight, you just might not be looking hard enough or are too closed off to certain sectors personally and need to look at other things like commercial space stations instead of just rocket launches. Theres also daily movement of Starship parts and the like at Boca Chica.

[Anonymous No.16172691]

>>16172683
Back to >>>/v/ you go. I bet youre here because of that fucking anon yesterday that said he would name drop us there.

[Anonymous No.16172692]

>>16172691
nah I've been here since 2016

[Anonymous No.16172693]

>>16172691
Don't worry, I didn't :)

[Anonymous No.16172694]

>>16172681
comes up with strategies to create more spaceflight jobs

[Anonymous No.16172697]

>>16172681
Read, nigga, read

[Anonymous No.16172700]

>>16172681
same, does someone have any ideas hobbies what to do? Browsing /sfg/ all day doesn't cut it anymore.

[Anonymous No.16172701]

>>16172694
Right now you would need some sort of sector that could utilize SpaceX. The best area right now for that IMO is the CSS market which is rapidly expanding, but creating more jobs in that sector than what is already happening might be tough since most of them are startups that cant overhire as much. Maybe you could start the industry of training astronauts for flights, most importantly would be the 7 month Mars flight though right now thats in its infancy and it seems like most CSS companies will be training their own astronauts like Axiom, Vast and Polaris have said. Space mining is kind of a meme right now until we start getting some of those LunA-10 forges going on the moon, though stimulating that sector of the space economy might be helpful. NASA is already doing that though by subsidizing and paying companies to come up with these ideas so cant do much there other than keep giving them money so it actually happens and hope they dont embezzle it like JPL does. The last major sector I can think of is the satellite sector, and thats already getting more jobs as launch costs become cheaper via SpaceX meaning that more money can be put into production rather than fees to get to orbit.
As I see it right now there isnt many sectors of the space economy that you can stimulate easily to bring more jobs than what is already coming, this is the best Ive got. Obviously subsidizing or paying any industry to do what they were already doing will atleast help to grow it though nothing guarantees new jobs.

[Anonymous No.16172702]

>>16172645
It makes sense. When there is significant competition and an overabundance of human resources, it's a race to the bottom for living standards. You see it today in outsourcing labor to India for example: low living expenses >>> everything else.

[Anonymous No.16172703]

>>16172700
Track Starbase movements. If youre the same person shitting up the general because all you do is browse /sfg/ you need to be gone yesterday. Go get a life you basement dweller.

[Anonymous No.16172706]

Ded.

[Anonymous No.16172707]

>>16172703
I'm the superior attic dweller kind, And I was hoping someone could recommend some hobby that doesn't use a computer. Making soap figures or something like that.

[Anonymous No.16172708]

>>16172706
???

[Anonymous No.16172711]

>>16172707
Not spaceflight gtfo.

[Anonymous No.16172716]

>>16172708
https://x.com/vickicocks15/status/1789735397968294355
Its the suborbital platform theyve been disassembling

[Anonymous No.16172718]

I need to install some sort of fume extraction system into my chair.

[Anonymous No.16172723]

>16172718
Not spaceflight

[Anonymous No.16172738]

maybe we need a startup incubator but for spaceflight, like the tech industry has

[Anonymous No.16172744]

>>16172738
No because then we get Astra. Its good enough now as is, just give a few tax breaks for working with the government or something

[Anonymous No.16172767]

>>16171575
想一想那个味道!

[Anonymous No.16172782]

>>16172681
ask your doctor to put you in a insulin induced coma for 3-5 weeks

[Anonymous No.16172818]

>>16172707
Attic dwellers have excellent antenna access, making your new hobby of tracking satellites and intercepting data streams that much easier. Start off with an SDR and go from there.

[Anonymous No.16172823]

Eric Berger is breeding fat pigs.

[Anonymous No.16172828]

>>16172823
I just saw that—and yes, I would

[Anonymous No.16172832]

Whats the end game for Starship LEO destination? How big of a station would be needed to built to scale it properly and make use of the capacity

[Anonymous No.16172839]

space technica

[Anonymous No.16172842]

>>16172839
Based. Space News Inc and Spaceflight Now and Space.com are all horrible space news websites I have blocked, only Ars seems to be offering legitimate space news that arent ragebait opinion pieces.

[Anonymous No.16172843]

>>16172839
I use this link

https://arstechnica.com/space/

[Anonymous No.16172872]

>>16172700
Learn an instrument

[Anonymous No.16172876]

Hey, so what's first: the next Starship IFT or Starliner incinerating on reentry?

[Anonymous No.16172880]

>>16172842
collectSpace is S tier

>>16172876
Starliner

[Anonymous No.16172892]

>>16172880
>Starliner
Excellente

[Anonymous No.16172897]

I got to meet some astronauts at work!

[Anonymous No.16172902]

>>16172897
We know, Elon.

[Anonymous No.16172908]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1789772018419630228

[Anonymous No.16172928]

verdict on berger's daughters?

[Anonymous No.16172930]

>>16172928
Nobody cares. Go jerk off to porn instead this is off topic.

[Anonymous No.16172937]

>>16172928
I thought the middle girl was this one

[Anonymous No.16172945]

>>16172928
too much Texas food

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[Anonymous No.16172989]

>>16172842
If its not Berger/Clark article, its rage bait on Ars. That other "tech" guy also covers Starlink in ragey/passive aggressive tone, but I ignore him since all he does is posts hit pieces about Musk's companies

[Anonymous No.16173013]

STAGING

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