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Engine inspection day edition

previous: >>16158571

>> No.16160388
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it's always been two words, you fucking nigger
BAD THREAD
SPAM THREAD
REPORT AND IGNORE

>> No.16160392

>>16160382
Ok, this one has the right template, but why have this edition instead of, idk, Polaris spacesuit edition?

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>> No.16160396

>>16160392
are you retarded? spelling spaceflight as one word is newfag shit

>> No.16160401

>>16160396
it's been that way for as long as I can remember (wasn't here for the earliest threads) and it makes more sense to just use spaceflight instead of forcing the acronym.

>> No.16160403 [DELETED] 

bad thread, use this one instead
do not indulge the threadsplitter spamfaggot
>>16160366
>>16160366
>>16160366
>>16160366

>> No.16160413

>>16160401
you can check the archives if you want

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>> No.16160416

>>16160413
no, I mean I wasn't here for the earliest threads where it was a thing, so I'm not attached to it.

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>>16160392
Yeah probably should've been polaris spacesuit edition. I concede that. Feel free to post spacesuits though.

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Will picrel ever actually happen, or will NASA be forced to rely on SpaceX yet again?

>> No.16160440

>>16160437
>>16160421
>>16160415
>>16160394
do you have fun talking to yourself, all alone in your faggot thread?

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>>16160440
you seem angry.

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You will now remember mechanical counterpressure space suits.
It's really sad that nobody bothers with these, since they seem (theoretically) outright superior to gas pressurized suits. I wonder if NASA and everyone else just forgot about them.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Ai66_YFZg
>SpaceX Reveals EVA Suit - China Launches Moon Mission - Deep Space Updates May 4th

>> No.16160481

>>16160480
>Scott Fagley

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https://twitter.com/Tesla_Optimus/status/1787027808436330505

new video from Tesla about Optimus, somewhat space related perhaps

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https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/05/rocket-report-astroscale-chases-down-dead-rocket-ariane-6-on-the-pad/

Small Rockets
>German rocket arrives at Scottish spaceport.
>Arianespace wins ESA launch contract
>Update on ABL's second launch.

Medium Rockets
>Galileo satellites ride with SpaceX.
>Ariane 6 is on the launch pad.
>Astroscale chases down a dead rocket.
>China preps to launch Chang'e 6

Heavy Rockets
>Questions remain about Artemis II.
>Starship refueling plans come into focus.

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Something I missed from the spaces

> The spacewalkers will go through a “test matrix” to collect data on the performance of the EVA suits. “This is looking at mobility, movement in this microgravity environment, how the suit is performing,” she said. “There’s a whole series of test questions that will be stepped through for the time outside the spacecraft.”

overall a good summary of the spaces if you didn't listen to it

https://spacenews.com/spacex-reveals-eva-suit-design-as-polaris-dawn-mission-approaches/

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I guess it's been roving for years now.

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https://twitter.com/GrantObi/status/1786837261105152004

>> No.16160547

OP a gay
>>16160366
>>16160366
>>16160366
>>16160366

>> No.16160549

>>16160547
based

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SPEHS

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>>16160382
SpaceX is literally nothing without NASA lmao
All the computations, modeling and optimizations are done by Marshall Flight Center.

>> No.16160667

>>16160550
Shuttle nostalgia is devil worship. Repent

>> No.16160670

nuclear > solar
what will solarfags do at night?
woops, looks like your spacecraft needs to conserve energy until daytime, suck to suck solarfags!

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looks like roscosmos doesn't want its cosmonauts flying on shitliner...

>> No.16160695

this is a fag thread for fags
join the real thread (not you, OP. stay here in your retard chamber)

>>16160366

>> No.16160765

>>16160453
>gives your armpits, palms, back of your elbows, asscrack, and crotch edema

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>>16160437
The AxEMU is indeed happening. It's being put through training.
https://youtu.be/qBXX8SNQM2k

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Hey OP, Im sorry I missed staging this time. I know I usually do it with the time stamps and all but I appreciate you covering for me like usual, I can tell from the format its you. Its unfortunate that the other OP is griefing this hard, would never have happened if I hadnt or been sleeping or if janny actually woke up and did his job. Ill try to get these on time in the future so /sfg/ isnt griefed this hard again.
I apologize to /sfg/ at large for being tardy on staging.

>> No.16160784

>>16160783
Post that in this thread
>>16160366
>>16160366
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>> No.16160785

>>16160783
>the gayest post I've ever seen
To think you made so many OP's, I threw up a little in my mouth

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Well hopefully thats over. Tomorrow is the day fellas, make or break time for Starliner and Im leaning towards break desu.

>> No.16160793

>>16160783
stupid nigger

>> No.16160796

>>16160792
>the scorch mark
Fear.

>> No.16160797

>>16160793
You dont have to keep replying and samefagging here you know. You could just... go back to what (You) think is the correct thread and wait for janny to clean it up if you think its in the right.
But you wont, because that wasnt the purpose of this entire situation. The purpose was to grief /sfg/, and that was made pretty obvious by how much you spammed this thread. I hope that once this is all over you got this spergery out of your system and we can go back to normal.

>> No.16160799

>>16160797
I'm not the one who split the threads lmao

>> No.16160801

>>16160796
What was the cause of that also? I remember seeing it in a previous thread but nobody ever told me what it was/was from.

>> No.16160804

>>16160799
And neither am I. Go back please.

>> No.16160807

>>16160415
Why is one row way dirtier than the others

>> No.16160808

>>16160772
I know a couple people in the spacesuit sector and apparently collins aerospace is shitting the bed and the lunar suits won't be ready until 2029. They are actually considering remanufacturing the original apollo suits.

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Does anyone know whats going on with the Chang'e 6 mission? I read a little bit about it earlier in that Berger article but how long is it going to take and whats the method theyre using to launch back, is it like previous MSR where they use some rocket or are they returning the entire landing probe.

>> No.16160813

>>16160808
Kek wtf, at this point if the SpaceX EVAs work why not just buy those out. This is also a pathetic show for 60 year old tech at this point.

>> No.16160814

>>16160808
what has Collins Aerospace got to do with this?

>> No.16160820

>>16160814
NTA but maybe theyre contracted?

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https://x.com/bocachicagal/status/1787141024164241433
Starship V2 parts spotted

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>>16160820
Collins Aerospace was contracted to make the replacement EMU (picrel) for the ISS EMU. They have nothing to do with the development/certification/production of the Artemis lunar EMU. That would be Axiom Space, hence AxEMU.

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>>16160827
Ah I see thanks.

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>>16160421
What is your favourite spacesuit, anon? Mine is probably always going to be the Shuttle EMU.

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>>16160835
The new ones just have too much sovl. Theyre perfect in every way, and actually look like they belong in this era.

>> No.16160842 [DELETED] 

>>16160810
stupid frogposter

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>>16160842
Forgot fairy award again... starting to doubt youre the fairyposter

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787165820512051626

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787163731786351005

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787159842727030972

>> No.16160886

>>16160860
stupid frogposter

>> No.16160890

https://x.com/ryanhansenspace/status/1787165405947088900
Big thread on the quick disconnect if you ever wanted to know how they fuel and cut away during launch.

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the Varda (co-)founder seems pretty based

>> No.16160893

>>16160813
the artemis EVA suits have way more mobility than the SpaceX ones and operate at a highter internal pressure with less air leakage. Thatbeing said though SpaceX could probably make a functional lunar excursion suit by the time starship HLS is ready. it would also be insane kino if they could fly private customers to the lunar surface in SpaceX excurison suits

>> No.16160897

>>16160681
If it's Boeing...

>> No.16160899

>>16160897
you are dying

>> No.16160901
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There is no competition,

>> No.16160910

>>16160908
nah

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>>16160901
The A7L was so ahead of its time that even modern "advanced" spacesuits end up returning to designs championed by the A7L (namely the cable-assisted dual-plane shoulder joints)

>> No.16160943

>>16160927
>airborne lunar gravity simulation, no harnesses needed
Neat. How long are the spells of lunar gravity? It's got to be much longer than the zero g spells, which are on the order of tens of seconds.

>> No.16160960

>>16160943
Hm, I'm actually not sure at all! I think it's a matter of minutes?

>> No.16160967

>>16160943
as far as I understand it, you get a similar amount of time to zero g, since they actually use a slightly different trajectory than a zero g sim would.

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https://twitter.com/Cmdr_Hadfield/status/1787120537887453631

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>>16160975
https://twitter.com/rookisaacman/status/1787157603224547747

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>>16160976
https://twitter.com/Cmdr_Hadfield/status/1787159451998343569

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>>16160976

>> No.16160987

>>16160975
Mister Hadfield, half of these questions have already been answered
>what pressure is inside the suit?
5.1 psi
>how supple is range of motion when pressurized?
this we actually don't know, but we have best guesses based off what we do know about the mobility architecture (bearings for the scye, wrist)
>where does the umbilical attach?
Right thigh, as with the IVA suit
>can you see/access the umbilical to tend it?
If you can see your thigh, then yes. Airflow control is also located here
>spark sources in 100% oxygen?
unknown, but we should hope there are none
>diaper?
also unknown, but for a two hour EVA it may not be needed

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https://twitter.com/rookisaacman/status/1786864310922236383

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https://twitter.com/rookisaacman/status/1786863380570980378

>> No.16161038

>>16160991
Ohhh so theres no detaching for Dawn? Thats kind of unfortunate but I guess expected. I wonder what suits the Vast Haven-1 station will use, you think in house made or theyre gonna pay SpaceX again?

>> No.16161041

>>16160987
how does living at 0.34 atm work? wouldnt you like die

>> No.16161042

>>16161038
umbilical nigga, this is iterative development

>> No.16161049

Bridenstine would already have two space tugs in orbit

>> No.16161057

>>16160985
So the IVAs were basically just an early iteration of what the EVAs are supposed to be

>> No.16161088

>>16161041
top of Mount Everest has about 0.3 atm
you can survive but you want to have higher oxygen level than normal air to be comfortable

>> No.16161101

>>16161088
Oh I see. How does 100% oxygen work also? Dont we usually need a mix of nitrogen or something or is it because the pressure is so low that 100% is required to get the same amount.

>> No.16161104

>>16161041
The human body needs about 2 psi of air pressure to just barely survive. Any less than that, and your lungs wouldn't work, and you'd start to suffocate. So, 5.1 psi is more than enough

>> No.16161107

>>16160960
>>16160967
I got nerd sniped by this. Assuming that the plane's horizontal speed is the same in the lunar sim case as it is for the zero g case (which it would be if vertical velocity at trajectory exit is the governing parameter), that's about 30 seconds of sim time. If instead the absolute speed at trajectory exit is the governing parameter, then that stretches to 41 seconds. I was kinda hoping for more than that looking at how chill the observers are in the photo.

>> No.16161121

>>16161101
It's the partial pressure of O2 that matters. Plus without all that nasty nitrogen around, the bends are not a problem.

>> No.16161133

>>16161121
I see. Thanks for the info

>> No.16161207

>>16161057
yes and these EVA suits are also just part of the iterative process towards surface suits, though if you need a jetpack and backpack for life support I would imagine this system will be somewhat modular

>> No.16161227

>>16161207
I'm skeptical, but imagine if SpaceX manages to make suits which work for all purposes and don't require prebreathe in the future

>> No.16161239

>>16161227
I think that was an explicit goal that they talked about in the spaces, probably quite a long term goal though

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https://twitter.com/peterrhague/status/1764746632011149655

article about the motivations to colonize mars

>> No.16161253

pro tip: Mars is free real estate

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>>16161250
>Business case?
>I'm not doing this to make money.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHiigXtbO3E
>It's Happening! Booster Catch Arm Tested At High Speed! - SpaceX Weekly #113

>> No.16161308

What happenedto those NASA development suits which were fully made from metal plates like a suit of armor?

>> No.16161317

>split threads with equal replies
yup general is dead. totally done for. it's been fun

>> No.16161318

>>16160772
Spacesuits seem like the right niche for a government agency to do. Very little profitable demand for them.

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Has this been posted to YouTube yet? I can't seem to find it

>> No.16161340

>>16161323
just listen to it on xitter it was pretty boring though

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>>16161308
Somewhere along the line it was decided that they were too bulky, heavy, and expensive.
I think they were also more limited in supporting a range of wearers with above or below average heights.

xEMU went with a hybrid design. The torso is a hard shell, but the arms and legs are soft.

>> No.16161354

>nearly 6 months since last starship test

We are NOT going

>> No.16161356

It's insanse that nobody has tried mcp suits since the 60s.
The results they got then were good.
The upside is huge someone needs to do it

>> No.16161360

>>16161354
>baiting
kill yourself

>> No.16161362

>>16161356
Some tenured femoid is sitting on patents

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>>16161354
is this bait?
it hasn't even been two months, IFT-3 was on March 14

>> No.16161366

>>16161362
>patents
nobody cares about that. that is not the reason

>> No.16161370

>>16161365
Its pretty obviously bait, dont know why youre replying to it considering that the likely culprit is the same person thats been doing this for a month atp.

>> No.16161371

>>16161366
>nobody cares about that

Patent law is pretty important, if she doesn't sell you can't do shit.

>> No.16161372

>>16161371
patents can be circumvented or licensed

>> No.16161377

>>16161344
Is that the one on the right youre talking about?

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>>16161362
>Some tenured femoid
May I see the BioSuit vacuum chamber test?
It's been 20 years surely you must have tested it

>> No.16161387

>>16161253
Is it really free though? Its cost is the cost of transportation

>> No.16161393

>>16160810
Pls someone help me out here

>> No.16161402

>>16161386
QRD? Ive literally never seen this suit in my life

>> No.16161417

>>16161402
its the suit from da marshan

>> No.16161419

>>16161402
It's one of the 3 entries on the Wikipedia page for MCP designs.
And it's the only one of them that has not really been tested despite being in development for literally 20 years due to being a shitty do-nothing university project.
I cannot fathom why nobody serious has tried to make one despite the Paul Webb suit proving its feasible and has way better mobility than pressurized suits.

>> No.16161424

>>16161419
Well the mobility thing might change soon with the SpaceX suits. Maybe the risk adverse NASA just didnt even want to bother trying and paying for new suits when they can just reuse what they already had? Idk

>> No.16161440

>>16161419
How would they do thermal management with the skin in contact with the suit? An overcoat I imagine?

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>>16161377
All 3 are the same suit. Just different views and colors.
The latest iteration is the AxEMU being built by Axiom. Pic related.

>> No.16161451

>>16161440
Yeah you can still have liquid cooling / heating channels and an insulation layer.

>> No.16161464

>>16161227
A zero-prebreathe suit would be difficult but certainly not impossible for SpaceX. Combined with the necessary added mobility joints to meet mobility demand for surface activities, such a suit would likely end up much more complex and bulky. There's a reason the AxEMU (which was specifically designed to operate at zero-prebreathe pressures) is so massive.

>> No.16161466

>>16161464
what if you added some powered joints, some quasi exoskeleton?

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>>16161466
that's always an option, and a popular one, at that. Of course, that introduces several new sets of complexities, challenges, and risks posed to the astronaut. A powered exoskeleton would require you to design an entirely new mobility architecture atop the architecture of the pressure garment. That could get quite bulky and heavy. You'll also have to worry about power, both in terms of consumption and storage. Batteries are heavy. Then there's the issue of keeping those joints working in vacuum without overheating. Do you use your water cooling loop to cool all these electronics? Now you've doubled your water consumption. Also, let's hope that literally none of this malfunctions, lest your astronaut get turned into a gimp mid-way through his EVA.

In the end, I'd say it's much cheaper, safer, and more reliable to just design a more robust pressure garment. In my opinion, the AxEMU is effective, but overkill. I believe you can get similar performance out of a much lighter weight EMU.

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S26 is getting cut up right now btw lol

>> No.16161532

>>16161531
finally being put out of its misery

>> No.16161533

>>16161531
its over. 6 months til next launch.

>> No.16161536

>>16161464
Polaris Dawn literally is zero prebreathe though.
They reduce the capsule pressure slowly over several days.

>> No.16161537

>>16161402
>Ive literally never seen this suit in my life

Exactly

>> No.16161548

how did the threads get split?

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>>16161536
Yes, only because of the reason you've mentioned. That does not make the suit a zero-prebreathe suit by definition, since you could not jump from 1 Atm to the suit's pressure of 5.1 psi without prebreathing first. The technique of gradually dropping the pressure within the spacecraft to reduce or eliminate prebreathe time has been used since way back, and allows you to use spacesuits with relatively low operating pressures without needing to put hours aside for prebreathing before each EVA.

Zero-prebreathe suits are desirable for contexts where you're jumping from and to high pressure (so, at or near 14.7 psi, one atmosphere), such as the ISS.

>> No.16161552

>>16161548
someone made a new one because the other one was shit. who cares? the activity in this thread is higher quality and im getting new info so i use this one

>> No.16161554
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>>16160810
>>16161393
Heres changes profile

8 may: gets into lunar orbit

2 june: lands on the moon

25: brings back to earth the sample

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>>16161554
ok so it does have a part that separates off i see

>> No.16161570
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787285438434005104

were the tile doomers right?

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>>16161570

>> No.16161574

>>16161570
I got accused of being a troll for pointing out the tile thing. Starship can avoid most debris strikes on ascent due to not being side mounted like shuttle, but acoustics were a major cause of tile damage on shuttle and clearly cause dozens to fall off on starship launch. And even if that is fixed I don't see the shield being fully reusable. They will have to replace loads of tiles every mission which will prevent rapid reuse. I think peak heating on starship is higher than shuttle, and shuttle typically had to replace a few tiles from heat damage every mission.

>> No.16161576

>>16161570
we wont know until the next flight when they get the orientation correct throughout the entire reentry. once thats done we will see if they were right or not.
id like to take this opportunity to remind you that the watercooled plate doomers were wrong, the separation doomers were wrong, the hot stage ring doomers were wrong, and the envirotroon doomers were wrong. the tile doomers will also be wrong.

>> No.16161578

>>16161574
the shuttle used 1980s tech that had no reason to innovate under government funding and is not a good comparison.
youre not a troll for having tile concerns, in fact as of now thats the most pressing issue and should be acknowledged. however it will be a temporary issue just as every other issue of the program that got solved so far has been.

>> No.16161579

>>16160554
I don't think that is correct

>> No.16161584

>>16161578
starship tiles are made from the exact same material shuttle tiles are made from. there is no new tech.

>> No.16161592

>>16160554
what's their arrangement? I wonder what kind of money spacex pays for nasa services

>> No.16161601

>>16161570
Hmmmm

>> No.16161604

>>16161584
Apart from being like 10x as thick so they don't break when a bird looks at them

>> No.16161607

>>16161570
Surely they've looked into using a magnetoshell, right? RIGHT?

>> No.16161619

>>16161607
This is a no schizo zone

>> No.16161621
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>>16161604
reminder that if the wing leading edge under the tiles on the Space Shuttle had been made of titanium instead of aluminum (wtf) the Columbia wouldn't have been lost

>> No.16161632

>>16161621
Titanium was very hard for America to source in large quantities during the cold war as most titanium ore was found in Russia. The CIA had to set up a complex string of dummy corporations to buy stock from Soviet exporters so Lockheed would have enough metal to build the SR-71. Something like that was probably impractical for the Shuttle given how public and high profile the project was.

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>>16161619
Based

>> No.16161644

>Chinese plan on landing humans on moon 2029
>Artemis 3 no earlier than Sep 2026 (Elon musk calender)
Why did no one tell me there was going to be a nech-and-neck space race to the moon

>> No.16161650

>>16161644
No one really thought through the consequences of SLS having such an absurdly low flight rate or considered the possibility that Lockheed could put together a capsule that was just as bad as Starliner.

>> No.16161651

>>16161644
It's not. America already beat everyone back in 1969.

>> No.16161668

>>16161632
I knew some retard would say that, so here goes, every single one of the hundreds of F-15 fighters made in the US during the 1970s had a titanium main spar joining the wings, along with every single one of the hundreds of A-10 ground attack planes having a titanium tub to protect the pilot, and these, along with many other industrial and military programs in the US that required titanium, used hundreds of tons of it per year, and that which was in excess of what South Africa could provide, originated in the Soviet Union, which used to sell large quantities of titanium to shell companies in the West, who were largely buying for the military/industrial complex, so don't tell me the FOUR space shuttle frames constructed by Rockwell in the late 70s couldn't have made the spar that runs the length of the wing from titanium, as it would have been trivial in quantity compared to the total amount being used every year by aerospace manufacturers in the US, and NO, using it on the civilian NASA shuttle wouldn't have been "problematic", no matter where the origin, as using it in the construction of weapons/spy planes was.
>Something like that was probably impractical for the Shuttle given how public and high profile the project was
shut the fuck up, retard, don't ever spill your stupid gay "I gotta say something that sounds smart" opinion at me again

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>>16161651
And yet they are unable to replicate it...

>> No.16161678

>>16161675
>>>/x/

>> No.16161688

>>16161668
>it would have been trivial
So why didn't they?

>> No.16161689

>>16161651
This isn't even the same country anymore dude.

>> No.16161691

>>16161632
(protip: Rockwell making the wing leading edge out of anything but aluminum, as a "just in case" measure, would have been basically admitting that the TPS could conceivably fail, which was a big no no during the selling of the STS to the mil and NASA, but in hindsight, especially after the 2003 wing burn through and loss of Columbia, it seems a rather obvious flaw in their design now)

>> No.16161698

>>16161675
amazing what you can do with 10x the budget

>> No.16161700

>>16161698
SpaceX has more than 10x less budget yet seems to able to do perfectly fine. Curious.

>> No.16161710

>>16161570
why don't they just do a spray of whatever the tiles are made out of in layers instead. probably incredibly toxic but use a robot or something.

>> No.16161712

>>16161710
Not replaceable fir any damaged or worn parts short of getting a hundred beaners taking scraping tools to the rocket and redoing the whole thing.

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the death trap has been turned on

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thread is very comfy... feels like old /sfg/ when we didnt have any baiters around for weeks and everyone just wanted to learn/discuss more about space. i remember the december era when we also had a split thread that the quality of posts also went up.

also speaking of guess we were wrong about picrel kek

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>>16161765
oops nvm those threads were still doo doo caca. still this one is very nice

>> No.16161769

>>16161767
>>16161765
Threads have been shit for a very long time.

>> No.16161772

>>16161769
yes i am just misremembering thats my bad

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>>16160801
Cargo culting Apollo.

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This place was pretty fun for a few years

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>>16161784

>> No.16161791

>>16161785
Banan

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We shall visit again

>> No.16161816

>>16161688
partly the air force wanted all the titanium for themselves and they were going to object if nasa used it for anything (this is in heppenheimer, i'm not making it up), partly cost-cutting on nasa's part because titanium is a huge pain in the ass to work with compared to aluminum

>> No.16161851

>>16161592
Nothing, actually, although it certainly isn't free. Without any public details though the scope of the assistance is unknown. Griffin is on record as being absolutely furious that NASA can't meddle in HLS/Starship because it isn't a cost-plus structure that lets NASA continually review the work and make change orders. That said, they're more than happy to provide "advice and expertise" but it'd take an official disclosure from the OIG to find out how that work is tracked and billed. This is the kind of thing that makes the scientists anxious as hell that Artemis is stealing money from other directorate budgets.

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>>16161761
Don't forget to set the clock this time, guys!

>> No.16162037

>>16161816
So youre telling me that Columbia would have not disintegrated if it had a titanium spar?

>> No.16162039

>>16161604
Buddy.... They are THINNER.

>> No.16162044

>>16161761
haven't done one of these before, but I remember there was one for artemis 1, so:
1: complete success, /sfg/ and musk cultists btfo
2: mostly a success, some teething issues: the toilet breaks, astronauts complain, issues on docking with ISS.
3: Mission control loses contact with starliner for extended period, commence panic. Turns out it was a nothingburger and everything is fine.
4: similar issues to last time, jeetcode forces astronauts take control and earn their paycheck, other than that, things go to plan. Boeing was right all along.
5: starliner does the thing NASA predicted it would do if it made it to the ISS last time. minor collision event.
6: Atlas V shits the bed. abort on launch. Unjust end for starliner.
7: depressurization event ala soyuz 11. IVA suits save the crew and flight is aborted.
8: flight is aborted, but parachutes fail catastrophically, severely injuring the crew.
9: total failure, loss of life due to some stupid mistake. starliner goes in the bin and after a news cycle and a period of mourning everything goes back to normal.
0: complete failure and total loss, possibly involving the ISS, internationally publicized spaceflight travesty. US gov temp bans all spaceflight for investigation into NASA contract policy.

>> No.16162048

>>16162044
The International Space Station will crash into the Three Gorges Dam.

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>>16161644
>>16161651
I've said it before and I will say it again. China beating American to the moon this century (which they will) will be a major bifurcation point in perceptions of world history. The moon landings will become one of the primary indicators of your political alleigance. 70% of people today in Russia think America faked the 69-72 landings. They are primed to rewrite history when China lands, and it will become canon in the eurasian bloc (as well as for MIGAtards) to say that China was the first country to ever land a man on the moon.

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about 15h to starliner launch

some videos from ULA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOSTiAgn0kc
>Atlas V Starliner CFT: Passing the Torch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnYy3uZA-y8
>Atlas V Starliner CFT Mission Profile

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>>16162060
ongoing livestream from launchpad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGR1itFpKS0
>LIVE! ULA Boeing Starliner CFT Countdown

livestream from NSF that starts in 11h (didn't find a official stream from ULA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI1u80rw5LY

>> No.16162067

>>16162058
What do you mean the recordings from the moon don't have a chain of custody?

>> No.16162068

>>16161579 >>16161592

I think it comes with the contract, SpaceX isn't writing a check to NASA for the service. NASA is simply a part of a lot of technology verification work, for them and other companies like ULA.

>> No.16162074

>>16162058
It's possible I guess, but all you have to do to prove otherwise is go visit an apollo landing site. You'd have to actively destroy the evidence to maintain the lie past a certain point.
>>16162044
rolling

>> No.16162079
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>>16162044
rolling

>> No.16162087

>>16162074
>all you have to do to prove otherwise is go visit an apollo landing site
all you have to do to disprove flat earth is to fly away from the planet in any direction, or work in any industry that requires you to navigate long distances. Yet flerfers exist, and if the government was pushing it as the official narrative then 90% of normies would believe it even if they had cognitive dissonance to do so. I don't think the chink government will officially come out and say they were the first to land men on the moon, but they will dogwhistle and push that message through alternative media. Within our lifetimes we wont reach a point where anyone can visit an apollo landing site to prove for themselves, so there will be enough plausible deniability. And they could just shift the goalposts and say sure the landings happened but they were done by computer and the spacewalks were filmed in hollywood.

>> No.16162107

>>16162079
The guy on the right is destroying my country

>> No.16162110
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yurop has its own polaris, don't you know?

>> No.16162117

>>16162107
*fixing your country

>> No.16162122

>>16162058
What landing on moon will prove now? Whats even the point of going to the moon? Robots do job just fine, sending humans there is useless and dangerous. We have barely enough tech to survive there.
>The moon landings will become one of the primary indicators of your political allegiance.
Again, whats the point of landing on moon? To prove that commies are not retarded pieces of shit? Great, what do i say.

>They are primed to rewrite history when China lands, and it will become canon in the eurasian bloc (as well as for MIGAtards) to say that China was the first country to ever land a man on the moon.
Alright, they destroyed all US robots and equipment, whats then? "Very good china, you landed on moon!"

About russia, they had like 50 years to land on moon and yet they ruined country and started wars, they have lots of resources and they are wasted on new lambo of new corrupt piece of shit.

>> No.16162130 [DELETED] 

>>16161644
>>16161688
beautiful digits, salient points
>>16162122
ugly digits, newfag poster, wasted dubs

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>>16162064
daylight

>> No.16162152

>>16162058
>70% of people today in Russia think
So what? Those people think all kinds of wrong shit.

>> No.16162155

>>16162122
>Whats even the point of going to the moon?
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU

>> No.16162164

>>16162058
>70% of people today in Russia think America faked the 69-72 landings.
There's no fucking way that's a real stat.

>> No.16162169

>>16162164
I wouldn't be surprised. We know that Rogozin is a skeptic.

>> No.16162175

>>16162164
It's probably real that 70% of Russians say that they think that. But the Russian is a pathetic, slimy creature who has been trained to not ask too many questions nor think too hard and, if he does come to a truth that's inappropriate to his masters, will deliberately lie and dissimulate.

>> No.16162186

chang'e-6 has a rover now, apparently

>> No.16162188
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https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1787456163438534856

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/05/the-surprise-is-not-that-boeing-lost-commercial-crew-but-that-it-finished-at-all/

>So what happened? How did Boeing, the gold standard in human spaceflight for decades, fall so far behind on crew? This story, based largely on interviews with unnamed current and former employees of Boeing and contractors who worked on Starliner, attempts to provide some answers.

its a pretty long article

>> No.16162197

>>16162188
I kind of skipped it because it looked like something I'd seen before, is there anything actually interesting in it?

>> No.16162205

>>16162188
paraphrasing
>no single unified flight software team, but two teams, one in florida and one in texas, the teams didn't trust each other or talk to each other much
>Boeing didn't run a single integrated flight software test end-to-end, but divided it into chunks, if they had they would have probably caught the errors that made OFT-1 of starliner fail
>not being vertically integrated meant everything that passed silos lines took a long time, an example given was that if a rocketdyne engineer working on propulsion wanted to connect to the service module with some widget, it might mean a dozen people in different companies and departments would have to get involved
>an anomaly in 2018 during a hotfire test that dumped 4000 pounds of monomethylhydrazine on the test stand was at least partly caused by bad communication between boeing and rocketdyne due to the companies hating eachother (why? boeing saw rocketdyne as a partner, rocketdyne saw itself as a contractor and asked a change order fee after some system specs were changed)

Quotes from the article
>Boeing's best people were focused on the aircraft crisis, and the experienced space hands were leaving [or retiring in a accelerated way due to the pandemic].
>The surprise is not that Boeing lost to a more nimble competitor in the commercial space race. The surprise is that this lumbering company made it at all. For that, we should celebrate Starliner’s impending launch and the thousands of engineers and technicians who made it happen.

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Didn't this shit amputate someone as well
>mfw 2022

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https://twitter.com/TODAYshow/status/1787449990555607109

polaris crew interview on mainstrema media

>> No.16162249

>>16162236
Well if its with msm its going to be very surface level. Probably what some boomer thats only ever heard about the shuttle can understand

>> No.16162252

>>16162205
In theory none of this should have prevented Starliner from being built. Indeed a lot of space projects are handled that way

The fact that vertical "silos" gets name-dropped means Starliner had no leadership involved across the whole program and people were content with their fiefdoms -- nobody noticed or cared about the whole project. This shows when you think about the issues they had: leaks in valves that were impossible to service, the parachutes not working properly (literally the number three most important system after life support and the heat shield) and the flammable tape that was known long before assembly. These problems were discovered basically on the pad, weeks from launch, probably because it was the first time they were all in one place.

>> No.16162277

>>16162122
>Whats even the point of going to the moon?
To build a permanent base

>> No.16162279 [DELETED] 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crQYhBE7wzU
>Stage 0 Testing In Full Swing! | SpaceX Starbase Update

high resolution satellite images

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crQYhBE7wzU
>Stage 0 Testing In Full Swing! | SpaceX Starbase Update

high resolution satellite images

>> No.16162289

>>16161632
are you retarded? titanium ore is THE most common pigment in paint (titanium dioxide white) and is found all over the world, the issue is that only the Soviets had bothered to refine it
fucking retard

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>>16162283

>> No.16162291
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>>16162290

>> No.16162294

If i owned a little piece of property at starbase I would refuse to sell

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>>16162291

>> No.16162301
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>>16162297
location of upcoming rec center and sushi restaurant

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>>16162301
upcoming tower 2

>> No.16162308

>>16162294
If I owned a little piece of property at starbase I would happily collect the 10million dollars for a 20k plot of land and go somewhere else.

>> No.16162310

>>16162308
I'd put a little house there and live in the Starbase. Do you think they'd make me leave on launch days? I'd rather stay and watch from close up.

>> No.16162315

>>16162310
be like the three little pigs and build your house under the launch ring

>> No.16162318

>>16162186
Yeah its a mini rover with a movil camara

>> No.16162339

How long until Blartliner launch?

>> No.16162343

>>16162339
Unfortunately Boing is too full of gay niggers from outer space, so they can't launch because of Shadow President Trump

>> No.16162344

>>16162339
Stream goes live in 7 hours, I'm not sure how much longer after that.

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Reminder that coronal mass ejections destroying society is a sci-fi meme.

>> No.16162345

>>16162339
0234 may 7 GMT or 2234 may 6 EDT

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>>16162339
11h 26min >>16162064

>> No.16162350

>>16162346
you can't just drop this in my lap without explaining why.

>> No.16162351

>>16162347
looks like a cock, many such cases

>> No.16162366

>>16162351
>unwittingly reveals the shape
Nice pencil, loser

>> No.16162368

>>16160480
it doesnt bend at elbows and knees

>> No.16162372

>>16162350
Even the most basic metal enclosure can protect electronics from solar flares.

>> No.16162381

>>16162122
If you want to do missions farther than earth orbit, having fuel production on the moon is really useful.
If you want to do any kind of industrial scale mining and production, having a human there is really useful.

>> No.16162393

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1yoJMwjyBrwKQ

Starlink in less than an hour.

>> No.16162395

>>16162393
We live in an age where rockets fly ever other day or so. few years back, it was every other month or so.

How times changed

>> No.16162400

>>16162372
which means the real threat is to exposed solar panels and poorly shielded crew modules in orbit

>> No.16162407
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Russia realizes it can't compete in the megaconstellations game and wants to DESTROY THEM instead

>> No.16162411
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViyQP7EFaJs
>Tory Talk // Atlas V Starliner CFT

>> No.16162413

I've come around to the idea of settling the moon before Mars.
Settlement of another world has never been done and there inevitably are an immense number of failure modes which are not immediately lethal, but would slowly kill the Mars crew over months while we wait for the transfer window and for supplies to arrive from Earth. That would be even worse than a catastrophic instant death failure and is mostly avioidable on the Moon.

>> No.16162418

>>16162413
That's why Elon's plan is to make the first Martians live with absurd kiloton scale supply surpluses while they bootstrap ISRU.

>> No.16162420

>>16162393
Oops, got my times wrong and it's actually in a little over two hours now.

>> No.16162425

>>16162418
I hope it happens, but point is I was opposed to Artemis but now I think it's a positive. It gets NASA working on things which will be directly transferrable to Mars, and the Moon is more viable from an Earth economics persective since it's easier to get to LEO from the surface of the Moon than from the surface of Earth

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>>16162130

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787523801070326120

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>>16162464
lol musk deleted this

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787527275451490772

>> No.16162485
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Tonight in Florida, two astronauts will die. Here's why.

>> No.16162488

maybe the 7 years faster is incorrect?
the first crewed dragon flight was Demo-2 which was in May 30 2020
so Boeing would be 4 years later than SpaceX, not 7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crew_Dragon_Demo-2

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787524960422174764

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>>16162490

>> No.16162497

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO-4bdWojcc
To tide you over until the main event, here's another Starlink launch

>> No.16162504

> Did you know that today's CFT will be a numerous of number ones?

- 1st crew launch from cap canaveral since 1968
- 1st ever crewed launch of the entire Atlas family
- 1st ever crewed launch from SLC-41
- 1st ever crewed flight of Starliner

First times a charm!

>> No.16162506

>>16162497
Unfortunately I have developed a tolerance to starlink launches; they simply don't do it for me anymore.

>> No.16162511

>>16162504
first failure for ula

>> No.16162516
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"Hello fellow space kids!"

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>>16162504
>- 1st crew launch from cap canaveral since 1968
but that means it's not actually a first
>- 1st ever crewed launch of the entire Atlas family
anon...

>> No.16162522
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"That hot astro-babe you wanted is here."

"Send her in -- Oh My NASA!"

>> No.16162523

>>16162488
Remember when it was a race between SpaceX and Boeing?

>>16162485
How come it's structurally inefficient when the whole capsule was milled out of a solid block of aluminium into a isogrid structure?

>> No.16162527

>>16162516
Damn she looks like hell. She looked like 30 in her ISS tour video around 2010. Now she looks 60.

>> No.16162529

>>16162517
First crew launch powered by a engine from the RD-170 family. Been waiting decades for that to finally happen.

>> No.16162534
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>>16162464
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787531120852312388

he reposted it

>> No.16162543
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Tonight's launch is big news on the Subcontinent.

>> No.16162545

>>16162529
>weird Russian engine

>> No.16162552
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg0gVkhxkbo&ab_channel=SpaceX
> space X roasting Boeing live
what is this timeline ?????

>> No.16162555

STAND BY FOR A ZUBRIN POST
THIS IS YOUR OFFICIAL NOTIFICATION THAT A ZUBRIN POST IS INCOMING

>> No.16162557

>>16162555
make sure you put it in the right thread (you're in the wrong thread)

>> No.16162558

>>16162555
Thanks for the warning, I hope it's not another "NUKE RUSSIA RIGHT NOW" post.

>> No.16162562

mars

>> No.16162564

>>16162543
for what possible reason would they fixate onto this?

>> No.16162566
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https://spacenews.com/practical-approach-mars-sample-return-mission/
A PRACTICAL APPROACH TO THE MARS SAMPLE RETURN MISSION
BY ROBERT ZUBRIN, PhD AND HERO TO AUTISTS EVERYWHERE

>> No.16162567

>>16162552
Haha what the fuck they mentioned flammable tape and anxiety

>> No.16162569
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>>16162552
>@SpaacceX
how the fuck does this have 8.7 million subscribers?

>> No.16162572

>>16162569
I just realised, wtf is this shit
they also have million of views on stolen videos

>> No.16162576

>>16162552
>SpaceX x ULA in the corner
Yep lawsuit incoming

>> No.16162578

>>16162572
I think they are actually linking to the real SpaceX videos, but this channel itself has not videos at all
just this livestream

>> No.16162582

>>16162576
if lawsuits worked against pajeet scam channels they wouldn't be so prominent.

>> No.16162583

>>16162578
Youtube should stop this scam

>> No.16162585
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This is Major Tom to Ground Control
I'm stepping through the door
And I'm floating in a most peculiar way

And the stars look very different
Today

>> No.16162586

>>16162497
https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1yoJMwjyBrwKQ
T-6:00

>> No.16162587

>>16162552
it's impressive how elaborate youtube scams are getting
apparently you can feature videos from another channel on your own?

>> No.16162593

>>16162058
>(as well for MIGAtards)
Super ULTRA mega MAGA here, I think I speak for all MAGA supporters when I say we love this country and its great historical achievements. Believing that the Apollo moon landings didn't happen is completely unAmerican and unpatriotic. You have a nice day.

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>>16162586
t-1:10

>> No.16162596

>>16162587
no they should be easy to strike
spaceX has just not done it yet

>> No.16162598

>>16162497
Bet this launch will be a success.

>> No.16162599

>>16162566

Spoiler: Earth Direct MAV with liquid propellants.

NASA Earth Guard planetary protection zealots would never allow that.

>> No.16162607

good to see the old engine bell rats are still sticking around

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>>16162569
>>16162572
they hacked some turkish guy's account i guess
you can still see the old pfp if you search for the vid sepreatly

>> No.16162620

>>16162619
*separately

>> No.16162621

>>16162593
the american right has quite a diverse spectrum of thought within it (so much so that it makes the two party system look ridiculous), and I'd be surprised to find a ML denier that would vote dem (sounds like a really strange type of person).

>> No.16162624

>>16162619
usually these accounts are hacked and then sold.

>> No.16162625

>>16162060
why is their cgi so bad?

>> No.16162626

>>16162625
it looks like it's based on real-time telemetry just like we saw on Vulcan's flight

>> No.16162627

>>16162625
they made it when they started the starliner program

>> No.16162630

>>16162625
My guess is that it's made by boomers using the ancient software that they're used to.

>> No.16162632

>>16162627
kek

>> No.16162638

reminder the limiting factor why we cant get more people to the iss is a lack of docking ports. adding another port could get us a dozen manned commercial missions a year.

>> No.16162642

>>16162638
the ISS is about to be obsolete, pointless to upgrade it now

>> No.16162643

>>16162624
Why can't youtube shut it down?

>> No.16162646

>>16162638
I don't even see the point of the ISS since they're doing no plant reproduction or insect breeding experiments.

>> No.16162647

It stumbled due to shittle, but the ISS did ACTUALLY kickstart commercial LEO in the end of the day. Will Gateway do the same for TLI?

>> No.16162648

>>16162643
Why would they make more than a token effort? Eyeballs watching ads are eyeballs watching ads. As far as they're concerned adblockers and edgy content are much more of a issue.

>> No.16162650

>>16162646
they need to bud off the axiom station

>> No.16162656

>>16162643
they don't take down the dozens of fake streams that pop up during Starship launches so why would they do it for Starliner?

>> No.16162661

>>16162647
>tli
stands for trans lunar injection. thats the transfer path, not an orbit like leo. learn your orbits newfag

>> No.16162662

Does anyone have the video of Starliner spinning around when its thrusters decided it would be a cool trick?

>> No.16162664

>>16162648
Edgy content as in prank videos?

>> No.16162667

>>16162662
it's already in here
>>16162022

>> No.16162677
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https://twitter.com/DrChrisCombs/status/1787547104161701939

>> No.16162680

Does anyone have the video of Crew Dragon doing a test firing in Kennedy when its thrusters decided it would be a cool trick?

>> No.16162681
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>>16162677

>> No.16162685
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https://twitter.com/TheSpaceWriter/status/1787473560455237858

>> No.16162686

>>16162677
>>16162681
that oldspace butthole licking grifting nigger should drive off a cliff

>> No.16162689
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https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/1787488624545497598
>Say LIFTOFF in 3...2...1!
>@NASASocial stopped by SLC-41 to see #AtlasV and #Starliner this morning and were joined by surprise guests @torybruno and @NASAArtemis II @NASA_Astronauts Reid Wiseman, Victor Glover and @CSA_ASC Jeremy Hansen! #NASASocial

>> No.16162692

>>16162677
Loser loser loser loser loser
>wahhhhh why not just overlook these glaringly obtuse facts that Boeing and Starliner sucks
How about you suck… a dick, Mr. Combs! (His friends call him Combover becuase his estrogen supplements are wreaking havoc on his hairline)

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https://twitter.com/BoeingSpace/status/1787429790363848798
>Today’s #Starliner #AtlasV launch is an instantaneous launch — meaning the rocket must launch at a precise moment to get Starliner on the path to meet the@Space_Station
in orbit.
>Watch the moment of liftoff at 10:34 p.m. ET

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3qcR2tUQs

3h 25min until official stream starts

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>>16162692
>>16162686
the old space stans really dislike berger
https://twitter.com/ThePrimalDino/status/1787554909342011529

>> No.16162699

>>16162693
Beautiful tropical Floridian marshes

>> No.16162710
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leaked dragon docking footage. do not share

>> No.16162716

>>16161570
can someone explain why transpiration wouldn't work, aside from the additional weight and complexity?
I hate tiles

>> No.16162728

>>16162661
I know retard.

>> No.16162731

>>16162710
you mean starliner? and that needs interstellar music.

>> No.16162732

>>16162710
what's this from?

>> No.16162737

>>16162732
iss-sim.spacex.com/

>> No.16162738

>>16162664
anything that advertisers don't want to be associated with (including in the comments) or that the powertripping youtube jannies arbitrarily decide.

>> No.16162741

>>16162681
>>16162677
Why is this zogbot bootlicker piping up now?

>> No.16162747

>>16162737
reminds me a bit of the 6 axis robot arm at work

>> No.16162748

>>16162747
of course the newfag thread has never heard of the SpaceX ISS docking sim lmao

>> No.16162750

>>16162748
Nobody cares about your drama. Go back.

>> No.16162752

>>16162750
no you, fucking tourist scum

>> No.16162754
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deltaic reminder

>> No.16162766

>>16162754
Alright, but is that really water?

>> No.16162768
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>> No.16162773
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>>16162766
no, but this is

>> No.16162780

>>16162768
looks like an ancient engine block

>> No.16162792

>>16162773
I'm guessing that's one of those martian plains where there's a thin layer of dirt covering a permafrost like substance that occasionally gets exposed.

>> No.16162806

>>16162792
exposed by engine exhaust in this case

>> No.16162821
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>>16162792
It's really interesting how variable mars is, it has a lot of different landscapes and features depending on where you are. It's actually very far from just a boring rock, as some would have you believe.

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>>16162821

>> No.16162860

Terra/Luna/Sol when?

>> No.16162867
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I remember seeing erebus montes in a human landing site study for mars and really liking the look of it. I sometimes think about what it would be like to stand amongst these hills/mountains? sad there are only sat images.

>> No.16162868

>>16162543
*poos

>> No.16162870

>>16162860
When the average IQ goes above 120 (never)

>> No.16162871

>>16162860
People will never call earth terra. The other two are unlikely.

>> No.16162872

>>16162821
Tis is honestly sad how youa re so interested in a dead rock on the other side of the universe.

>> No.16162873

>>16162872
naisu baito

>> No.16162877

>>16162860
we don't speak spanish here

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>>16162685
>>16162689
>he shaved
What does this mean?

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https://x.com/rocketlab/status/1787582571112739229?s=46&t=xAsrM6PdqaaSrVGsirvwQA
Rock Laboratory shows off their new engine

>> No.16162893

https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/1787584792273223762
ULA deathtrap has also just begun fueling

>> No.16162900

>>16162893
does it fuel before crew board?

>> No.16162904

>>16162900
It probably has to. ULA's never been nearly as fast as SpaceX when tanking up their rockets

>> No.16162905

>>16162893
When is it launching?
Europoor needs to sleep.
Also you guys are fucking retards for still having split threads.
You're killing the general

>> No.16162906

>>16162904
before you say some arrogant statement, its because they are cautious and quality focused.

>> No.16162915

>>16162906
they do cautious and quality things like force a bunch of ground crew to be near a half fueled rocket while they load astronauts on board

>> No.16162919

>>16162906
Or because speedy operations aren't really a concern for an LSP that's never launched more than twelve rockets in a single calendar year

>> No.16162921

>>16162905
Why are you taking this out on me Im not the one that split the threads or made an ass OP.

>> No.16162922

>>16162569
>>16162552
Hacked account shilling crypto scam shit

>> No.16162930

>>16162887
so neutron is actually happening

>> No.16162931
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>>16162887

>> No.16162932

>>16162906
yet they are probably more dangerous and have worse quality anyway

>> No.16162934

>>16162931
tubular

>> No.16162937

>>16162931
Way more interesting than the starliner launch desu (unless something goes hilariously wrong during launch)

>> No.16162941

>>16162932
nasa estimates them as safer, and nasa knows all about unsafe rockets.

>> No.16162950

>>16162941
bullshit

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787591104692654195

>> No.16162956

>>16162954
ehh, this one's a miss. dissimilar redundancy is a good thing, even if the backup is kinda shit.

>> No.16162957

>>16162887
I didn't believe it, but we may actually see neutron fly.

>> No.16162963

>>16162950
unironically.

>> No.16163009

>>16162956
That money given at NASAs expense couldve gone to an ice giant probe instead of this shitty capsule thats about to kill 2 astronauts. Not to mention that company assassinates anyone that speaks out. The Dragons have already proven that they work, there is no need to spend another $5b on a shitty and unsafe ripoff from a black company
>inb4 sunk cost fallacy argument
No. Cost plus contracts have been a fucking disaster in every place they were put in. We cant keep funding this cycle of misuse.

>> No.16163017

4hr remain until Starliner launch.

>> No.16163020

>>16163017
I'll be going to sleep. Hope it's a nothingburger and I don't miss kino.

>> No.16163024

>>16163020
What type of kino are you not hoping for? The Challenger type or the Starship type

>> No.16163027
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>>16163024
the challenger type of course, with cloud included.

>> No.16163029

Umm guys
Where is the launch escape system?

>> No.16163030

>>16163027
Personally I think that the concerns would happen at reentry more than anything. On the way up it would be the rocket that would cause an accident and that probably wouldnt happen with an Atlas

>> No.16163031

>>16163029
stop being anti semitic.

>> No.16163032
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>>16163029

>> No.16163033

>>16163029
we've seen it, it's a pusher like dragon. It lost a parachute and created a smelly hydrolox cloud on touchdown.

>> No.16163035

>>16163033
>hydrolox

>> No.16163036

>>16163029
Is this what they call concern trolling?

>> No.16163038

>>16163035
nothing gets past you guys huh, there goes my Boeing paycheck.

>> No.16163044

>>16163033
*hydrazine

>> No.16163052

>>16163024
I think Atlas IV will work fine. The horror will be Soyuz 11 / Columbia style.

>> No.16163057

>>16163052
At least they have IVA suits to handle a depressurization event.
I'm worried about the batteries expanding/exploding.

>> No.16163059

Someone, somewhere, will be gooning to Starliner launch. Whether it explodes or not is up to God

>> No.16163067

>>16163059
hate that word

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>>16162564

>> No.16163072

>>16163067
Would you rather me say 'will be tugging on their meat' instead

>> No.16163075

ohhh I'm whackin it to starliner rn
atlas gets me so hard. just jerkin my chode

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>>16162677
>Noooo it's not nice to say bad things about oldspace companies!
Reminder that SpaceX has been having to fly Boeing's missions for years now. The real question is if Boeing will complete the rest of their contract, but I'm sure they aren't going to extend it.

>> No.16163089

>>16163072
yeah, or:
>beating their bishop
>choking their cock
>polishing their bellend
>sharpening their pencil
>mingling with ms. right
>self-abusing
>practicing onanism
>having self knowledge
etcetera etcetera

>> No.16163091

Gooning to the thought of dead crispy astronauts and the boeing assassins next victim

>> No.16163093
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oof nasa stream stuck like this

>> No.16163096

>>16163091
>>16163093(you)
lol mfw anon really does it

>> No.16163104

yeah can these "traditions" move along

>> No.16163108

>>16163104
What? Is this a B*rkun post?

>> No.16163111

>>16163108
watch the starliner stream

>> No.16163112

>>16163108
not watching the stream?

>> No.16163118

>>16163112
No Im waiting until launch

>> No.16163122

the van!!! It has TV!!

>> No.16163125

>>16163093
*USA stuck like this
thanks 1960s

>> No.16163128

>they have a backup driver

>> No.16163130

corpses on their way to the grave

>> No.16163135

>>16163122
TOP GUN
O
P

G
U
N
oof

>> No.16163137

>>16162963
there is no fucking way starliner is safer than dragon right now

>> No.16163141

Something about this broadcast makes it feel like it is from the past. Like this is another shuttle mission. There is almost something quaint about it.

>> No.16163143

>grissom
have you ever heard the tale of the man who should've been the first to walk on the moon?

>> No.16163145

>8-9x more people watching the scamx stream
grim. although a large percentage of those are probably bots/indians

>> No.16163148

Barrel roles around the isis>>16162710
More likely then you think

>> No.16163150

>one of the most reliable rockets
lol

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>> No.16163154

>oscillations
uh oh...

>> No.16163157

>>16163151
a fucking hearse

>> No.16163161

>>16163151
Is that actual infrastructure in the background, or a plastic wrap of an image on a wall?
I feel like I’m going insane here

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lol did the helmet break
its over

>> No.16163166

>in collaboration with NASA
Absolute hubris lmao

>> No.16163167

>>16163143
Hoosier here, I'm sad it was never to be. In fact I live quite close to his hometown, I should visit the memorial museum and check out the Gemini 3 capsule.

>> No.16163170

spacex ninjas
boeing ______?

>> No.16163174

>>16163170
whistleblowers

>> No.16163176

I am unironically nervous, I feel like it could go wrong just sitting on the pad

>> No.16163178

>>16163164
thats just the visor schizo

>> No.16163180

I'm going to sleep

>> No.16163182

>>16163178
its over

>> No.16163185
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1787627184812949968

>> No.16163188

>>16163185
Not spaceflight fuck right off

>> No.16163189

>>16163185
dangerously based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUYPNsTpO4Y

>> No.16163190

>>16163170
Not going

>> No.16163195

>click on top starliner stream 163k CCV
>Elon Musk AI voice
>"We have a great interface where you can send any amount of Bitco-"
>Close stream

Total pajeet death, how do they afford so many bots

>> No.16163197

>>16163188
afuera

>> No.16163207
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>>16163148
>isis

>> No.16163210

>>16162838
that poor alligator!

>> No.16163211

>Calypso
why don't dragon capsules get such cool names?

>> No.16163212

>>16163211
sounds like an ice cream brand

>> No.16163213

>>16163180
Good night, friend

>> No.16163214

>>16163089
sharpening the purple hippo

(but surely, there must be a rocket-related term)

>> No.16163218
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How we feeling about this launch lads?
https://strawpoll.com/eJnvvPodknv

>> No.16163224

>>16163185
argentina needs jobs right? maybe they should invest in a spaceflight industry.

>> No.16163225

>>16163218
SCRUUUB INCOMING

>> No.16163228

>>16163170
faggots

>> No.16163229

Cant stand on the floor for real!

>> No.16163233

More sovl in the sendoff than crew dragon

>> No.16163235

>>16163218
Catastrophic Starliner failure is both good and bad. I want to see Boing go down but those astronauts don't deserve to die for it.
Best scenario is they get to the station and then some critical system failure aboard Starliner means they have to jettison it and wait for an emergency Dragon.

>> No.16163237

>>16163218
scrub
c
r
u
b

>> No.16163238

HOLY SHIT THEY FUCKING SCRUBBED LOLOLOLOL

>> No.16163239

>>16163225
Called it!

>> No.16163242

ACK

>> No.16163243
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>> No.16163244

>scrub at 2 hours
what the actual fuck

>> No.16163246

VALVE
>VALVE
VALVE
>VALVE
VALVE
>VALVE

>> No.16163247

>>16163246
salty humid air again?

>> No.16163250

Lol they almost fucking killed them. Boing, not going, etc...

>> No.16163252

>>16163247
Spacex sabotage

>> No.16163255

SpaceX sniper

>> No.16163260

Another Starliner attempt, another scrub.
Bets on this being a failure that causes months of setbacks? Or just the usual valve shenanigans?

>> No.16163261

>>16163260
apparently, it had something to do with centaur, not starliner

>> No.16163263

kek scroob. i was right that this thing was a death trap, they wouldve died if they went up.

>> No.16163264
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>Most reliable rocket
>Has to scrub

>> No.16163266

>>16163264
It's very reliable because it's very successful on the times it gets to T-0.

>> No.16163267

>>16163264
It's not that easy in reliabilitery

>> No.16163270

Is this thing just never going to launch? Erectile dysfunction?

>> No.16163271

>Blue team hears a potential leak
>'Lets continue'
>Valve failed
>SHUT IT DOWN
Really makes you think.

>> No.16163273

>>16163271
Imagine how reliable a valveless rocket would be

>> No.16163274

>>16163271
What are you implying?

>> No.16163276

>>16163271
They really are going to kill these poor bastards aren't they

>> No.16163283

>>16163273
those are called SRBs

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>>16163283
Yes. Lets do that.

>> No.16163289

SRBs are ugly. I dont care what you try and force yourselves to believe, this is truth.

>> No.16163291

>>16163289
couldn't possibly be any worse than atlas with starliner on top

>> No.16163295
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>>16163289
I think Ares looked cute.

>> No.16163296

>>16163285
S T R U T S

T

R

U

T

S

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>>16162318
>movil camara

>> No.16163301

looks like the crew will live for a little longer

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scrubbed with eerie red lighting

>> No.16163321

>>16163301
not on boeings watch, they already have the hitmen working overtime

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>>16163188

>> No.16163330

>>16163255
>>16163252
Careful elon, wouldn't want to fall afoul of a sudden deadly illness, would you?

>> No.16163332

>rocket launch livestream
>look inside
>woman yapping about inane shit
why does this always happen

>> No.16163334

>>16163332
>yapping
go back to twitter zoom zoom.

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>>16163246

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>>16163334
I hate this gay earth and the """""people""""" i have to share it with.

>> No.16163339

>>16163334
Millennials are cringe and are probably tied with the boomers in ruining spaceflight
Trying to blame someone for being young is crazy fr

>> No.16163347

>>16163338
Wow people are using word, the west has fallen

>> No.16163352

>>16163347
I was going against the guy complaining about the word, you fucking tard. What the actual fuck is wrong with this place and why is it filled with so many retards?
Again, I hate this gay earth. Fuck you fuck you fuck you please kill yourself.

>> No.16163353

>>16163352
Spaceflight?

>> No.16163354

>>16163353
>t. tiny black pecker haver

>> No.16163359

Skimming through this thread this is what I have pieces together:
>launch about to happen
>telemetry for some valve comes back bad
>damn launch cancelled, give us a week to fix the issue
>HOLY SHIT FAIL OF THE YEAR, RELIABILITY SCORE PLUMMETING AS WE SPEAK

>> No.16163360

>>16163359
all of those statements are true, so yes!

>> No.16163368

>>16163359
The ground crew were also hearing rattling from a possible LOX leak.

>> No.16163385

didn't hear the musk worshippers crowing when demo 2 scrubbed because dragon's weather control valve broke

>> No.16163387

>>16163385
I have double standards and I think Boeing Space is COMPLACENT and GAY

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get in here bluds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg

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>poo woman astronaut
I hope it blows up.

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>>16163396
fr fr no cap ong cuh

>> No.16163448

time to get back to the real thread already
>>16160366
>>16160366
>>16160366

>> No.16163453

>>16163448
Nobody cares. Not even page 10 anyways. Just leave us alone.

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>>16163427
fr fr no capsule on orbit

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>>16163448
>clear post
>off topic zoophile post
>anti anime post on anime website with rocker related vtuber
>reposting something from here
>concern trolling
Great thread bro. Definetly not a containment thread in anyway, totally had way better discussion than this one.

>> No.16163464

>>16163458
Kek thats a good one

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share your wallpapers bros, phone wallpapers also welcome.

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>>16163468
Phone background

>> No.16163500

Forgot to mention this but S30 SF tomorrow

>> No.16163550

>>16163547
>>16163547
>>16163547

Staging

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>>16162677
lol

>> No.16163629

>>16162236
Flying on the SpaceX DragonX?