/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.16154149]

>DUDE IT'S LE BLACK HOLE AND PARALLEL UNIVERSES AND LE WHITE HOLE TOO

[Anonymous No.16154163]

>>16154149
I, too, saw that Verisatium video

[Anonymous No.16154167]

>>16154163
What do you think of that video?

[Anonymous No.16154186]

>>16154149
When i was a kid i would wonder whats at the end of the universe. People would say theres a wall of some sort. Its just an event horizon.
Fascinating concept, how space can just have a wall where it ends.

[Anonymous No.16154194]

why are not whiteholes bigbangs? seems like the same shit.

[Anonymous No.16154231]

>>16154167

The math is so sketchy on black holes, he is pretty good with his videos to not lie so I think he clearly shows nobody really knows the answers.
It feels like a video without a conclusion because it is the current situation.

[Anonymous No.16154241]

>>16154149
ew why the hell is Einsteins spit so sticky in pic related, is he sick?

[Anonymous No.16154250]

>>16154241
and for some reason he's not looking at the massive blackhole outside his window, he's looking straight ahead

[Anonymous No.16154261]

>I'M GOONNAA FLY THROUGH SPACE AT THE SPEDE OF LYGHT IN MUH SPACE SHIT WITH FRIENDLY ROBOTS AND WE'LL TIME TRAVEL THROUGH BLACK HOLES AND TELEPORT TO THE MULTIVERSE JUST LIKE IN MUH STAR TREK MOOOOVIES
>WE'LL HAVE LASER SWORDS AN SHEEIIIIIITTT TOO OMG I'M GOING TO CUM JUST THINGING ABOUT IT I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE SO MUCH!!!!

[Anonymous No.16154273]

>>16154241
His sinuses are absolutely clogged, because it turns out that he's allergic to black holes.

[Anonymous No.16154275]

>>16154250
The light of the sun being sucked in must've blinded him.

[Anonymous No.16154345]

>>16154167
It was cringe and I hated it, but I've also been looking for a lite intro to relativity so I tolerated it
Now looking for more info on the Einstein Field Equations, preferably not in french or japanese or whatever the fuck symbols physicshits think are appropriate

[Anonymous No.16154396]

>>16154167
I like how he went through the history of black hole maths

[Anonymous No.16154739]

>>16154149
whose cum is Einstein brushing out of his mouth?

[Anonymous No.16154768]

>>16154149
i always found veritasiums videos badly explained
especially: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFlu60qs7_4
he just draws some lines and skims over everything
the production quality is very good but i dont think i ever learned anything

[Anonymous No.16155082]

>>16154768
i learned no one ever measured the speed of light in one direction. Only in two directions, through a reflection, and we measure the effective speed. Could be higher in some direction than in others, no way to know

[Anonymous No.16155105]

>>16154768
It's pop-science entertainment.

[Anonymous No.16155963]

>>16155105

[Anonymous No.16155985]

>>16154167
Veristatium is why IQ is declining

[Anonymous No.16155995]

>>16155985
>why IQ is declining
because of reading your ideas

[Anonymous No.16156871]

>>16154149
saw this shit and immediately clicked off

[Anonymous No.16156877]

>>16156871
should have waited, that graph is also going up

[Anonymous No.16157245]

>>16154149
something revealed in this video that I find deeply frustrating is the way that math which is clearly meant to describe abstract and often “ideal” worlds ends up being understood by pseuds as
>WHOA THE WORLD IS MATH I FUCKIN LOVE SCIENCE
but if you actually look at the math, for example the Schwarzschild solution to Einstein’s field equations, it isn’t describing anything remotely real. Roy Kerr’s solutions are closer to observed reality, but even still what these men are doing is creating a map of a non-specific place and making the map consistent in the way that it measures particular things (angles, distances, curvature, etc.). they doubtlessly have useful applications, but nonetheless they don’t *reveal* anything about reality. A meter stick is good at telling you how long a meter is, but that doesn’t mean the entire world is made of meters, it’s just a tool. When I sat down to read Einstein’s Relativity, I appreciated that Einstein himself seemed to understand that how we apply mathematical concepts (specifically geometry) to the world is ultimately arbitrary, and I feel as though this point is critically ignored today. I think that ignorance fundamentally stems from the fact that the revolutionary advances in physics in the early 20th century were the result of solving wartime problems, e.g. entire field of QM was a race to design the atomic bomb or the example shown in the video that calculus was used to predict the arc of artillery shells. the only problems of a similar scale we have today exist in the finance sector; complex predictive statistical analysis and the manipulation of price data, which is not only done almost entirely by computers but which was in part *designed* by the computers that control it

[Anonymous No.16157254]

>>16155985
i liked the blue LED one

[Anonymous No.16157351]

>>16154186
you loop back to the other side
4 dimensional sphere bro

[Anonymous No.16157354]

His new editor is about to ruin his channel for me

[Anonymous No.16158181]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf46_yoSX80

[Anonymous No.16158193]

>>16158181
that is not science and those are not scientists >>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.16159757]

>>16154261
lol
you have to be a s•yjak tier idiot to actually believe in the that ridiculous jewish pilpul that they try to pass off as legitimate physics

[Anonymous No.16160298]

>>16154261
people unironically believe in that kind of stupidity and at the same time claim that hollow earth is outlandish

[Anonymous No.16160414]

>>16154149
what's with the cumstring?
imagine watching videos with aislop thumbnails

[Anonymous No.16160435]

>>16157245
I mean the video implicitly concludes that all that scifi stuff probably doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.16160495]

There is absolutely no evidentiary basis for any hypothesis that something like a "white hole" might exist. It's a pure daydream fancy.

[Anonymous No.16160502]

>>16160495
>There is absolutely no evidentiary basis for any hypothesis that something like a "black hole" might exist. It's a pure daydream fancy.
t. Einstein when he was still coping at his initial solutions

[Anonymous No.16160584]

>>16160495
Fund scientists to make one? Instead of micro black holes?
Wormholes have been made in a lab?

[Anonymous No.16160585]

*crosses white hole*


In this Moment I am Euphoric,
not because of any God,
but because I am enlightened by my own intelligence.,

[Anonymous No.16160597]

>>16160584
>if you throw enough money at something, it will cross from fiction to reality
Just like black education, I guess.

[Anonymous No.16160600]

Anyone else completely lost track of what he was talking about after he changed the graph so all light travels at 45 degrees and then "expanded" it so that it covered all of the known universe in both space and time?

I mean I get what that other guy said, if you have a coordinate system with positive numbers, and nothing breaks if you use negative numbers, then SURE. But the last guy said the field equations prohibit all this bullshit didn't he?
Why are they ignoring the field equations and just jerking off to geometry?

[Anonymous No.16160607]

>>16160600
Reification. They're slaves to the math, they don't care about the real world at this point.

[Anonymous No.16160623]

>>16160607
Sure but I feel like I am missing some context here. Some older nazi who calculated trajectories for artillery guns to blow up slavs came up with a highly idealized solution to some ridiculous set of equations.This was a cold logic man, he probably only cared about the fun of calculations. So why was this celebrated in *physics* much? Is it just that it was the first non-trivial solution that was ever put forth?

[Anonymous No.16161673]

>dude just change the coordinate system and your fantasy comes true

[Anonymous No.16161682]

>>16157351
>4 dimensional sphere bro
It can be that and also have walls, not just at "the end", although you could define any wall as "the end". Its like having a fabric with holes, no, the holes are not gates to something, they are just walls that cant be crossed.

[Anonymous No.16161687]

>>16154149
>PARALLEL UNIVERSES
religious nuts are melting down over AI satan and want to start the fucking apocalypse. imagine explaining to them that you want to open a portal to a "parallel dimension" lmao especially if AI comes up with the solution for it

[Anonymous No.16161690]

>>16161687
>intellectual educated academics indulging in schizo fantasies
>anon desperately pivots to religious people
Adorable.

[Anonymous No.16161693]

>>16154149
All of this you could have gotten by watching a few lecture series on cosmology.

It was okay but I learned nothing. Good if you don't have a foundation in cosmology I guess.

[Anonymous No.16161694]

>>16161693
You're so smart bro.

[Anonymous No.16161697]

>>16161690
notice you getting offended by my post

[Anonymous No.16161704]

>>16161694
Quite the opposite friend, I simply enjoy lecture series. You should watch some, they're fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFZSFKl39YU&list=PLaLvSxPpI1c0IUreSNF2NNA0IJeHUjCyK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-medYaqVak&list=PLpGHT1n4-mAuVGJ2E1uF9GSwLsx7p1xtm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANCN7vr9FVk&list=PL4BUyFYOFtUZIUtcSDo6vm4HPxS9aZmHC

[Anonymous No.16162727]

>>16161704
fake af

[Eos !!7Nk2/yfbs86 No.16163351]

>>16154186
What makes you think there is either a wall or an event horizon? Are you considering the Hubble sphere to be an event horizon? Even though it sort of accomplishes the same outcome, we don't have any reason to believe it's the same thing as an event horizon at all do we not? (I did not watch the video btw)

[Anonymous No.16163442]

>hay guise, I know everything about the entire universe!!!
why is this grandiose delusion such a popular and common coping mechanism for stupid nerds?

[Anonymous No.16163502]

>>16163442
Replacement for metaphysical philosophy.
See also Roko's Basilisk, a replacement for fear of God.

[Anonymous No.16164290]

>>16163442
coping mechanism for fear of the unknown.

[Anonymous No.16164953]

>>16157245
Yeah its always like that with relativity, I also like how they would always say "in an inertial frame" which is like nowhere, never in the real universe.

Real universe is savage. Its on the edge of unicorn magic and we are just apes looking at shit and building some fancy theories.

[Anonymous No.16165969]

I fucking hate science so much

[Anonymous No.16166208]

>>16154149
i want to beat the fuck out of Verisatium and that stupid ego look in his face

[Anonymous No.16166735]

[Anonymous No.16167748]

>>16166735
lol good pic

[Anonymous No.16168495]

>>16154261
i really wish ppl like that would be kicked out this board or at least contained in /sfg/

[Anonymous No.16168522]

>>16154149
So do black holes really exist? Have we truly observed one? Or is it something like dark matter where it's entirely theoretical and there has been nothing found?

[Anonymous No.16168546]

>>16155985
no u

[Anonymous No.16168550]

>>16160607
That wouldn't be a problem at all if at least they made sure their mathematical model is fully consistent. It is not, they can't just pick any inertial frame of reference. Light must propagate symmetrically in all directions. Failing to do that leads to causality violations and singularities.

[Anonymous No.16168825]

I personally believe blacc hoes are blown way out of proportion by theorists and it's actually a really really dense boring pile of space rubbish. Matter falls on it and sticks to it. None of this dimension or timestop crap. We're just too stupid to explain it yet.

[Anonymous No.16168842]

>>16154167
I liked it.
t. PhD in physics.

[Anonymous No.16168849]

>>16160435
Actually it explicitly concludes that.

[Anonymous No.16168875]

>>16168522
they don't exist

[Anonymous No.16169836]

>>16168875
Yes they do. Here's a photo!

[Anonymous No.16169908]

>>16169836

[Anonymous No.16169971]

>>16154149
Parallel universes are impossible and if they existed they would be identical to ours on the macroscale. White holes don't exist either.

[Anonymous No.16170144]

>>16154167
It helped me see how utterly bullshit theoretical physics is.

[Anonymous No.16170753]

Astrophysics is a joke

[Anonymous No.16170900]

>>16166735
this is what soiyence faggots actually look like

[Anonymous No.16171782]

>>16154261

[Anonymous No.16172554]

>>16163351
I dont know if theres an even horizon at the end of the universe, just that it could be. I find that neat, before the idea of space having a wall where it ends was just said as a joke, but turns out it could be. Of course a common black hole with its event horizon can also be thought as being a "space ends here" wall, like a hole in cheese.
I dont care of any of this actually exists, im ok if its just a math game

[Anonymous No.16173078]

>>16170753
It is, its only popular because it allows people with extremely irrational and narcissistic personalities to claim "i know everything about the entire universe"

[Anonymous No.16173085]

>>16160298
>that stupid thing makes my stupid thing legit
GTFO

[Anonymous No.16174230]

>>16154739
Rothschild's

[Anonymous No.16174261]

>>16154149
wait till u here about the grey hole

[Anonymous No.16174262]

>>16166735
this is how people who only read popsci think of scientists

[Anonymous No.16174275]

>>16154149
>Einstein stole all his discoveries from ARYAN scientists and other JOO'S gave him credit to make DA WYTE MAN look dumb
>but Einstein was JOOISH
>so everything he discovered was fake and a JOOOISH plot

Make up your minds, /pol/tards.

[Anonymous No.16174277]

>>16174275
Seriously, the average /pol/turd barely passed high-school math and here they are are giving their expert opinion on physics.

[Anonymous No.16174576]

>>16156871
Can't amemba, did they draw all the kerr horizons on that and draw a picture of how John Titor did the timewarp? I think you should be able to draw a curve on that to show a mere mortal how to John Titor right?

[Anonymous No.16175712]

>>16169908
That's what experts say chud, you believe them.

[Anonymous No.16176461]

>>16168842
>t. PhD in physics.
Hard to believe that

[Anonymous No.16177483]

>>16174275
>>16174277
>being this obsessed with /pol/
go be cancerous somewhere else

[Anonymous No.16177509]

>>16160495
Black holes are actually white holes, the gravitational potential is so great that all the photons are stuck in orbit and never fly out, resulting in a black appearance, but if you were to fall past the event horizon you would witness a blinding light from all the photons in the eternally circular orbit

[Anonymous No.16177513]

>>16177509
"white holes" are just the big bang. that seems obvious.

[Anonymous No.16177514]

>>16177513
There was no big bang

[Anonymous No.16177621]

>>16154167
his content would be infinitely better if he didnt show his face every chance he could

[Anonymous No.16178039]

>>16177514
"The big bang" is just a cheap soience paraphrasing of the book of genesis

[Anonymous No.16178892]

>>16178039
Skydaddy isn't real bro

[Anonymous No.16179460]

>>16178892
yet you're still gullible enough to believe that same story when rewritten to be atheist friendly

[Anonymous No.16179536]

>>16177514
Why is everything that's really far away so redshifted? and what's the CMB?

[Anonymous No.16180181]

>>16179536
>i can't conceive of any other explanations for these observations because i have zero critical thinking ability
>all i can do i repeat soiyence memes i learned from the bill nye tv show

[Anonymous No.16180238]

>>16179460
That's not true. Atheists were outraged by the big bang theory, denoucing it as Christian propaganda which too closely echoed the religious narrative of creation. They vehemently continued to champion the steady state model to avoid any semblence of divine implication. Despite fervent and continuous opposition, Catholic scientists managed to slowly chip away at their beliefs. Eventually the old guard got old and died, thusly, the big bang became the cornerstone of modern cosmology.
Similarly, Darwin was shocked at the response from the scientific community at his findings. They claimed his data-first, analytical approach was unscientific and religious - he was no longer welcome in their cicles, for he rejected long-held paradigms. Meanwhile, the Church, who Darwin was afraid of, didn't give a single shit. "Mr Darwin, you're telling me your science says some force guides the progression of species through the ages? Finally! We've been TRYING to tell you idiots about God for ages!"

[Anonymous No.16180262]

>>16174275
He stole everything from Hilbert, whom only discovered general relativity as a harmless academic pastime. Only jews created a cult around it

[Anonymous No.16180301]

>>16180262
None of what you said has any meaning.
What the fuck is
"a harmless passtime", why would it be harmful?
"a cult around relativity"
Are you fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.16180305]

>>16177483
>i'm not /pol/ I just happen to agree with them on everything and shill their opinions and shitty memes everywhere I go
Nice try, faggot. Go disappoint your parents somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.16180975]

>>16180181
I'm literally asking you to give an explanation. If you can't think of one right now, just say that, don't cope by meme arrow-ing me.

[Anonymous No.16181068]

>>16180238
>massive wall of text trying desperately to come up with an eyou're still gullible enough to believe that same story when rewritten to be atheist friendly
>"nooooo!!!! you don't understand!!! it was part of a big conspiracy!!!!"

[Anonymous No.16181338]

>>16154149
>Black hole
*Counterspatial sink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRAgXVJ5fMM

[Anonymous No.16181371]

>>16168522

We have.

[Anonymous No.16181374]

>>16168825

It makes sense that they focus so much on them. It's an object where our best theories of the universe break down. The presence of singularities in the formula usually indicate that you have taken the math too far. Finding places where our theories might be wrong is the essence of science.

[Anonymous No.16181459]

Why do chuds like to post here so much?

[Anonymous No.16182349]

what is it about black holes that makes them the number one most popular popsci topic of discussion amongst the brainlet soience fangoys?
is it the comic bookish aspects of the spectacular, unrealistic and completely non disprovable conjectures which go along with the topic that make black holes so popular amongst the scientist posers and wannabes?

[Anonymous No.16183429]

>>16181374
>muh black hole soiyence fiction fantasyland
black holes don't exist according to the best estimates of modern physics, they're something that was theorized a century ago based on false premises which has subsequently disproved, the only people who believe in them do so out of ignorance of physics, your knowledge of the topic is something you got from comic books, nobody who has studied physics seriously thinks they're real

[Anonymous No.16183526]

>>16183429
Explain why they don't exist. What happens if enough mass is concentrated into a small enough space that the escape velocity exceeds the speed of light?

[Anonymous No.16183732]

What's the fucking point of science if there is nothing to do? Everything is either "too complex" for all of the scientists in the world to solve (or they would have heckin solved it before you were born!) Or it's just fairy tale shit that mature people such as myself would NEVER believe in. Fucking garbage. There is nothing to strive for in science because really it's just about protecting this shitty fallen world.

[Anonymous No.16183757]

>>16176461
Not my problem.

[Anonymous No.16184051]

>>16179536
The universe is actually orbiting a hypermassive black hole with a strong enough gravitational influence to distort radiation path such that it appears to surround us, the galaxies are redshifted because they're closer to the event horizon, cmb is hawking radiation, the universe isn't expanding, we're all just heading towards our destruction

[Anonymous No.16184083]

>>16184051
the universe is expanding, and galaxies are redshifted, in all directions and on all sides.

[Anonymous No.16184093]

>>16184083
And yet for some magical reason things have only expanded radially in a linear fashion, makes perfect sense

[Anonymous No.16184485]

>>16184093
Yes, it's accelerating at a linear rate as far as we know because of the hubble constant. Why wouldn't that make sense?

[Anonymous No.16184499]

>>16184485
Why are things conveniently expanding away from earth in a straight line and not between eachother?

[Anonymous No.16184535]

Lmao at the seething of low IQs ITT
Relativity is real
Evolution is real
Get over it

[Anonymous No.16184553]

>>16184499
They are, though. Space expands in all directions.

[Anonymous No.16184577]

>>16184553
Then the current observations should be impossible

[Anonymous No.16184579]

>>16154345
>preferably not in french or japanese or whatever the fuck symbols physicshits think are appropriate
If you want to understand the field equations you have to understand the math, which means familiarizing yourself with the objects that the greek letters stand for

You're not really going to understand it without having at least a rough understanding of the math. If you don't understand the math, you don't understand the equations. If you don't understand the equations, you will have to tolerate people like veritasium

There was a really good video where the different parts of the field equations were explained by a guy who knew what he was talking about but I can't remember it or find it. Shame

[Anonymous No.16184584]

>>16184579
>>16154345
ah here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRudidBcfXk

[Anonymous No.16184813]

>>16154167
I liked it. I'm surprised how he manages to explain advanced topics so clearly and in such a short time.
Those kind of topics are sometimes not even addressed by standard textbooks, and when they are you end up wondering what all of the calculations you just did actually mean anyway.

[Anonymous No.16184814]

>>16154149
Whats the point of the toothbrush? Is it another dumb meme?

[Anonymous No.16184856]

>>16184814
It's just another lazy dumb ai thumbnail

[Anonymous No.16185424]

Should I reconsider studying astrophysics bros?

[Anonymous No.16185458]

Listen I used to fucking shit on engineers hard because I thought veritasium was a fucking idiot and embarrassment and while obviously my skill set is more pure and even godlike (god is a mathematician obviously) than an engineer could dream, I have meet a number of great and intelligent engineers who proved to me that applied math is a meme and basically just failed engineers and wannabe mathematicians, a failure at both.
I wouldn't program a brutal program for months that does a gorillion hideous computations, but I would let an engineer do it.
And so I realized that veritasium is just a shit fuck terrible engineer as well as a pseud retard.

[Anonymous No.16185467]

>>16168522
I don't know if what people think of as black holes exist but there are enormously massive, very compact, very dark objects of some sort.
Before someone says the gif is just the center of gravity and contains no central mass, some of the orbits are waaay too extreme for that.
Something is there.

[Anonymous No.16185479]

>>16185467
While I don't deny that these particular stars orbit the SMBH, I don't think that the entire galaxy itself orbits around it as is often told, and that it is a center-of-gravity orbit in that case.

[Anonymous No.16185544]

>>16185479
The gif was to provide probably the best visual evidence out there of something that checks the very massive, dark and compact boxes.
Again, I'm not claiming these are kerr or Schwartzchild solution black holes, but they're something.

[Anonymous No.16185576]

>>16185479
That's correct. SMBHes are extremely massive, but they're still way too small for them to have a gravitational effect on the entire galaxy. the galaxy just orbits its center of mass.

[Anonymous No.16185603]

[Anonymous No.16185647]

>>16185424
Yes, don't do it

[Anonymous No.16186827]

>>16185467
>Before someone says the gif is just the center of gravity and contains no central mass, some of the orbits are waaay too extreme for that.
how would you know? you can't calculate an orbital ephemeris

[Anonymous No.16186974]

>>16186827
I just intuitively understand it anon. Do you believe SO-16 took that jackknife turn at 0.33 c because of what's shown in your image?
You don't need to be a chef to know a burnt omelette anon.

[Anonymous No.16187021]

>>16157351
>this is what globetards actually believe

[Anonymous No.16187033]

>>16186974
You can't do math and you have no education in physics so why do you try to pass yourself off as an expert? Enjoying your Dunning Kurgerism? You will never understand physics

[Anonymous No.16187161]

They are running out of ideas, aren't they?

[Anonymous No.16187221]

>>16154149
It's time we cancel Einstein for being a jew and also inventing the atomic bomb

[Anonymous No.16187412]

>>16187161
Just because you found out about something for the first time today doesn't mean it didn't exist before today, anon.

[Anonymous No.16187497]

>>16187221
>For being a Jew
Incorrect strategy.
First normalize making fun of their incest.
From Einstein being a cousin fucker, to the weirdly coincidental promotion of incest on pornographic sites.
Once mocking them for incest becomes normal, then scrutinizing their nepotism becomes the next natural step for the zeitgeist.
You can use strategy with Indians as well.

[Anonymous No.16187622]

>>16185467
fake af

[Anonymous No.16188527]

>>16154149
reminder that it requires an IQ of roughly 90 to think that those hollywood plot devices are actually real. too much below 90 and you can't understand hollywood scifi memes, too much over 90 and you realize that they're just a scifi meme

[Anonymous No.16189215]

[Anonymous No.16189646]

>>16154149
I don't get why chuds are so mad at that video. Didn't the theory that implied the existence of black holes (before their discovery) also imply the existence of white holes?

[Anonymous No.16189660]

>>16161697
notice you are buttblasted by his post

[Anonymous No.16189698]

>>16188527
This here

[Anonymous No.16189774]

>>16189646
black holes don't exist, the ridiculous idea that they do was based on the ignorant premise that neutrons are fundamental particles and that massive nonrotating objects exist somewhere in the universe

[Anonymous No.16190258]

>>16187412
When did it start?

[Anonymous No.16190529]

>>16189646
I'm not mad about the video because it takes care to show that people in the field don't actually believe in that nonsense. There's no consensus that even singularities exist in nature. In other words, they're not slaves to the math. Good for them.

[Anonymous No.16191203]

>>16184535
Nothing is real

[Anonymous No.16191810]

>>16160495
Big Bang is a white hole

[Anonymous No.16192297]

>>16185544
its just objects orbiting the center of mass. mercury goes around the sun faster than pluto because mercury is closer to the center of mass

[Anonymous No.16192378]

>>16192297
And how do you suppose a fuckhueg star does a hairpin turn without the mass being ridiculously large

[Anonymous No.16193225]

>>16192378
you've never learned any physics or math, which is why you don't understand orbital mechanics

[Anonymous No.16193255]

>>16193225
>deflection
aka you're talking shit out of your ass, understood

[Anonymous No.16193693]

>>16193255
you can't calculate an orbital ephemeris

[Anonymous No.16193697]

>>16154149
Dunning-Kruger: The Thread

[Anonymous No.16193719]

>>16193693
You don't have to, invisible objects with such mass displacement don't exist

[Anonymous No.16194069]

>>16193693
Please, for our reading pleasure, calculate the mass of an object that can cause an orbiting star to move at a relativistic speed. I don't know orbital mechanics, but you're clearly an expert on the subject.

[Anonymous No.16194070]

>>16193697
this is basically dunning-kruger: the board, lol.

[Anonymous No.16194075]

>>16193697
>>16194070
There is no consensus that singularities or white holes exist or can exist in nature.

[Anonymous No.16195286]

>>16194069
you don't understand orbital mechanics and you've never even passed physics 101, yet you're still utterly positive that some lame gif means that black holes exist.
because every thing you ever learned about science came from hollywood goyslop movies and you're too low IQ to differentiate between TV entertainment and irl life

[Roteman No.16195338]

>>16194075
>>16195286
serious question to you guys, what prevents black holes from exsiting ?

[Roteman No.16195348]

>>16185467
>bu-but muh orbits feel weird :(
shut up man, i know that black holes exist but saying shit based off of your feelings is what plagues science, take that shit to a philosophy board or thread

[Anonymous No.16195364]

>>16195338
What did I say about black holes? There is no consensus that singularities and white holes exist in nature.

[Anonymous No.16195511]

>>16195364
they don't exist

[Anonymous No.16195526]

>>16195511

Singularities don't need to exist to make black holes work. Likely, it is some form of weird matter hiding underneath.

[Anonymous No.16196576]

>>16195526
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_thinking

[Anonymous No.16196580]

>>16157254
This. Good story and presentation.

[Anonymous No.16197275]

>>16160597

[Anonymous No.16198317]

>>16189215
Heckin' wholesome

[Anonymous No.16198328]

>>16154149
I LIKE BLACK HOLES BECAUSE THEY LET ME TELEPORT TO THE MULTIVERSE AND TIME TRAVEL WITH ALIENS!! OMG SCIENCE IS SO AWESOME!!!

[Anonymous No.16198358]

Ein(((stein)))

[Anonymous No.16198759]

>>16198328
you didn't even mention the epic laser swords

[Anonymous No.16198858]

>>16196576
You post that like whatever is inside a black hole's event horizon actually has any bearing on its external properties. as long as they don't contain mass of one electric charge, or mass that was all spinning in one direction when it fell in, it doesn't matter what's in a black hole. it could contain a big clock for all we know, and it'd look and work the same.

[Anonymous No.16199655]

>>16198858
DUDE BLACK HOLES OMG!!!!
WARP FACTOR NINE THOUSAND SCOTTY
GET ME MY LASER SWORD!!!
WE'RE GONNA TELEPORT TO THE MULTIVERSE!!!!
ITS TIME TO FIGHT THE ALIENZZZTTHHSSS!!!
PEW PEW!!
OMG I LOVE SCIENCE SO MUCH!!!

[Anonymous No.16199957]

>>16199655
Very normal thing to say. show your mother this post, she'll be proud of you.

[Anonymous No.16200374]

>>16198858
>>16199655
Laser swords are made out of black holes

[Anonymous No.16201481]

>>16169836

[Anonymous No.16202117]

>>16201481
Why is astronomy so delicious?

[Roteman No.16202338]

>>16202117
its called the MILKYway galaxy

[Anonymous No.16202927]

>>16199655
If the multiverse is real then does that means theres a universe where I'm not a repulsive melvin thats so retarded I think Star Trek is real?

[Anonymous No.16203724]

>>16202117
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_Sausage

[Anonymous No.16205253]

>>16203724
>we live inside a sausage the size of a galaxy.
absolutely epic

[Anonymous No.16205266]

>>16195286
So you can't do it, and if you can do it, it shows the other anon is right.
I agree that people generally "shouldn't follow their gut" with maths and relativistic physics, but you're clearly upset that the other anon is correct, even if accidentally.
I imagine you will post some scathing reply, I just hope you have a good day brother anon.

[Anonymous No.16205998]

>>16185467
if there were something of enormous mass at the center of that gif then there would be massive gravitational lensing of both the positions and the spectrum emitted by those objects. if they were just orbiting the galaxy's center of mass then no such lensing would take place.
since the image shows no evidence of lensing that proves there is nothing at the center of the image.

[Anonymous No.16206009]

>>16154149
the amount of lies the tribe produced during the 20th century is unbeliavable.

[Anonymous No.16206039]

There is no such thing as time. There is no "backward" or "forward". Just now.
If you disagree you are a worthless faggot retard no better than the dumbest nigger.

[Anonymous No.16206369]

>>16189774
>>16190529
the duality of man

[Anonymous No.16206370]

>>16155985
I agree

[Anonymous No.16206371]

>>16156871
Wtf is this?

[Anonymous No.16206391]

>>16157245
I think chemistry was the class that made me realize that these equations are just was of modeling observed reality. A clump of uranium-238 doesn't know what a logarithm is.

[Anonymous No.16206451]

>>16154149
I need a clarification, can gravity be nullified? It seems so since the 0 gravity that astronauts experiment. So in the center of Earth, Gravity is 0 or you are being pulled/pushed at all directions?

[Anonymous No.16206549]

ok but like,
what's REALLY the story we know so far? Dark Energy and Matter and spooking around our irl matter, everything is accelerating in some direction or in all directions and is even speeding up and is that where' we're at?

[Anonymous No.16207083]

>>16206371
schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.16207095]

>>16206549
There is absolutely no empirical evidence of blackholes or "quantum [UNIT]".
>>16195338
>what prevents black holes from exsiting ?
What enables you to even refer to this imagination in the first place? Because it's popular or something? Define this "Black hole", you would be the first person to do so since it's currently defined as (everything else it isn't). It's literally shadow chasing.

>>16206009
>They got them to believe in a theory equatable to the inner working of pic related

[Anonymous No.16207534]

>>16206371
judaism

[Anonymous No.16208203]

>>16207083
>>16207534

[Anonymous No.16209137]

its retarded how many people think black holes are real just cause they saw them in some dumb jewish science fiction movie

[Anonymous No.16209483]

>>16208203
also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_genetics_of_Jews

[Anonymous No.16209493]

>>16154149
When the black hole of my penis meets the black hole of a vagina a white hole is created and a new universe is born.

[Anonymous No.16210450]

>>16209137
Sure, however most people are stupid, thats one of the many facts that science has uncovered for us.
People who think black holes are real have IQs of about 90 +/- about 15.
Above that range they're capable of telling the difference between on screen entertainment and IRL life and below that level they're too dumb to understand the on screen entertainment

[Anonymous No.16210890]

I have a lot of friends who watch stuff like Veritasium. They obviously have no background in math or physics and I have to explain basic concepts to them when they watch a new video and want to discuss it or talk ""science"" in general. It feels like I'm talking to actual monkeys and not people because no matter how much I simplify certain concepts, some math is always unavoidable and they turn off when the discussion gets even slightly technical.
I truly despise popular science. It does not increase the amount of people going into academia or increase people's scientific literacy. It's the same as just mindlessly scrolling TikTok except popscience people are under the delusion that the content they consume is of any value while TikTok users, at least the upper echelon, is aware of the fact that it is a waste of time. It's fine to take a break and do that stuff but just please be honest about it. All that popular science has accomplished is annoy people with friends like mine.

[Anonymous No.16211247]

>>16205998
gravitational lensing isn't noticeable until you get really close to the object doing it. And at the middle of a gravitational object like the galaxy, there isn't any "center of mass" for an object to orbit. the mass of the galaxy would be pulling on an object in the middle of the galaxy equally in every direction, so they would just drift randomly. That's like thinking that if you dug a pit through the center of the earth and climbed down to the moddle, you'd be spaghettified or crushed by the earth's centre of mass. No, you'd be weightless.

[Anonymous No.16211250]

>>16206039
You do know that your awareness isn't set at like a picosecond, but actually distributed over a period of 200 milliseconds? Your "now" isn't an instant, it's a period of time.

[Anonymous No.16211252]

>>16206371
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_diagram

[Anonymous No.16211255]

>>16206549
dark energy and dark matter are basically unrelated besides the name. dark matter is invisible stuff that we can see with gravitational lensing, so it doesn't interact with electromagnetic foces, dark energy is just a placeholder name for whatever the hell is making the universes expansion accelerate.

[Anonymous No.16211258]

>>16207095
>Define this "Black hole"
NTA, but it's just an object that was massive enough that its escape velocity is higher than the speed of light. what's hard to believe about that?

[Anonymous No.16211266]

>>16211247
Not that guy, but the galaxy as a whole does orbit around its own center of mass rather than the SMBH. Obviously the stars right next to it do orbit it

[Anonymous No.16212561]

>>16211255
>dark matter is invisible stuff that we can see with gravitational lensing
you can only imagine you're seeing it
what you're really seeing is your own misunderstanding of the true natures of light and gravity