/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.16136952]

Wernher Von edition

previous >>16134598

[Anonymous No.16136956]

>>16136952
…and special happy 135th birthday wishes to the man who made it all possible by recognizing Von Braun's genius and supporting his research in the early days

[Anonymous No.16136960]

my exhaustive research in rss/ro has led me to conclude that vulcan can put a fully fueled artemis II orion CSM into a 300x300 orbit with margin to spare. if artemis III is going to demonstrate docking with starship in LEO then that has some very interesting implications for the future of SLS.

[Anonymous No.16136966]

hell yeah
>>16136960
which Vulcan? 6 SRB?

[Anonymous No.16136967]

>>16136952
DON'T CAPITALIZE THE V IN VON YOU RETARD
it's Wernher von Braun, the "von" is like "of" or so, it means he's some sort of minor nobility

[Anonymous No.16136972]

>>16136966
i was using 6. i think you could probably bump it down to 4 but it doesn't really matter one way or the other to me.

[Anonymous No.16136976]

>>16136960
That's actually a beautifully proportioned rocket with interesting implications.
>Lockheeb makes Orion
>buys out ULA
>suddenly Lockheed is eligible for CRS/Commercial Crew contracts
>reaches full cadence before Starliner
>Boing!Space has nothing left but their limp dicks or the rare 100+ ton fission reactor launch for SLS

[Anonymous No.16137001]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1781558383654424928

[Anonymous No.16137003]

so true

[Anonymous No.16137005]

usually shit my pants over thread splitting but considering the last one was made by an early staging newfag, you get my seal of approval. plus the newfag didnt even stage the thread, so have a bump.

[Anonymous No.16137008]

>>16136952
The only ones who made any serious scientific advance. All the jews in academia must be hanged, all of them are nothing but trash.

[Anonymous No.16137010]

>>16137005

[Anonymous No.16137011]

>>16137010
is he ok?

[Anonymous No.16137035]

>>16137010
Kek nice lil rekt there.

[Anonymous No.16137071]

>>16137003
what a faggot

[Anonymous No.16137087]

[Anonymous No.16137088]

>>16137087
This is the worst meme this general has ever shit out. End this now, nobody cares anymore.

[Anonymous No.16137091]

>>16137088
>lipnigger upset that the vulcan suit obviously has teeth.
get over your loss already, lipniggers BTFO.

[Anonymous No.16137107]

/sfg/ is in hibernation on their way to saturn.

[Anonymous No.16137115]

I've checked the cost to get something into orbit, and I can say with some special artillery shells, bombing from orbit can be feasible weapon.

[Anonymous No.16137116]

>>16137115
you also have to deorbit the shells and aim them, which means they aren't just shells anymore

[Anonymous No.16137118]

>>16137116
I'm thinking of replacing "FGM-148 Javelin" with bomb dropped from orbit, that has aiming wings, and is contained in some ceramics to prevent explosion...

[Anonymous No.16137123]

>>16136956

[Anonymous No.16137127]

>>16137118
Good luck putting an IR seeker on that

[Anonymous No.16137143]

>>16137087
Nope

[Anonymous No.16137150]

>>16137143
>draws over tory's face randomly, far away from any lips
delusional lipnigger lmao, this is why you lost.

[Anonymous No.16137152]

Dont engage with the tooth toddler, his tired bait deserves no (You)

[Anonymous No.16137154]

https://www.youtube.com/live/eDul3uSWwfs
Ok she's fucking gorgeous

[Anonymous No.16137162]

>>16137127
Maybe GPS could help...

[Anonymous No.16137168]

>>16137162
GPS by itself doesn't really help with striking moving targets, which is what Javelin is supposed to be able to do

[Anonymous No.16137175]

>>16137154
>Ok she's fucking gorgeous
3/10, maybe

[Anonymous No.16137180]

>>16137175
more like 9 at least. I just finished spudding my wad over her and i moaned while doing it..

[Anonymous No.16137183]

>>16137180

[Anonymous No.16137210]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Y6I7h-xTo
>Orbital Tank Farm Tank Scrapped | SpaceX Boca Chica

its over

[Anonymous No.16137214]

>>16137154
reporter and two basedboys
how about no

[Anonymous No.16137216]

>>16137152
>lipfag copes and seethes when his argument for why it's lips gets absolutely annihalated.

[Anonymous No.16137227]

[Anonymous No.16137230]

>>16137003
>little Mexican girl shrugging and suggesting an alternative

[Anonymous No.16137231]

>>16137168
I was thinking that UAV could deliver precise coordinates for orbital strike.

[Anonymous No.16137235]

>>16137231
SpaceX is going to launch some satellites (collaborating with Northrop Grumman basically just so SpaceX doesn't have sole control) a profilerated spy satellite network that will replace intelligence collection from UAV at least partly

[Anonymous No.16137242]

>>16137107
Theres just literally nothing to talk about. If there was atleast some movement on Starships for future flights I would talk but nope not even that, just pad prep which is boring and lame.

[Anonymous No.16137243]

>>16137003
this guys a fucking soiboy cuck.

[Anonymous No.16137255]

>>16137003
We should launch rockets to the stars and then at each other.

[Anonymous No.16137260]

>>16137003
This is the most reddit thing I've ever read.

[Anonymous No.16137264]

>>16137231
Such a weapon would be more like GMLRS or PrSM than Javelin

[Anonymous No.16137266]

>>16137242
we could talk about aftershock. I know /sfg/ gets their panties in a twist about sounding rockets but I think it's pretty cool

[Anonymous No.16137267]

>>16137003
zero legitimate arguments against this in this thread

[Anonymous No.16137269]

>>16137242
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1781676154728120459
Space Pioneer is showing off some Tianlong-3 hardware

[Anonymous No.16137274]

>>16137269
Falcon 9 clone?

[Anonymous No.16137276]

>>16137003
he's right

[Anonymous No.16137278]

>>16137003
what a gaylord. jesus christ.

[Anonymous No.16137280]

>>16137255
We should launch rockets at xeno scum.

[Anonymous No.16137282]

>>16137274
Yes.

[Anonymous No.16137283]

>>16137274
17 tons of payload to LEO with a (eventually) reusable first stage. It's slightly taller and just a bit wider with comparable first stage thrust, so I think the isp on the Tianhou-12 engines is a bit less than the Merlon-1D's, but other than that it's about as close as you can get while having it be built by a different company in another country.

[Anonymous No.16137284]

>>16137283
SpaceP

[Anonymous No.16137296]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1781691650835664932

lel berger is starting to thunderfoot post
or what should we call this? pretending to have eds sarcastically

[Anonymous No.16137297]

>>16137296

[Anonymous No.16137299]

>>16137296
are you retarded

[Anonymous No.16137300]

>>16137107
Well wake the fuck up! New meme drive just dropped
>This means that their current devices, which Buhler told The Debrief “weigh somewhere between 30-40 grams on their own” without the attached test equipment, were producing enough thrust to counteract the full force of one Earth gravity.
https://thedebrief.org/nasa-veterans-propellantless-propulsion-drive-that-physics-says-shouldnt-work-just-produced-enough-thrust-to-defeat-earths-gravity/

[Anonymous No.16137303]

>>16137269

[Anonymous No.16137304]

>>16137299
are you?

[Anonymous No.16137306]

>>16137303

[Anonymous No.16137307]

>>16137303
do they get money for every spacex clone produced on powerpoint?

[Anonymous No.16137308]

>>16137306

[Anonymous No.16137311]

>>16137280
my every damn stellaris experience. FUCK YOUR COALITION MECHANICS PARADOX

[Anonymous No.16137312]

>>16137307
Well, yes. Space Pioneer seems to be all about moving lightning fast, having a hyper-aggressive schedule. Copying a proven design is, of course, the most conducive to speed and avoiding any unforeseen pitfalls.

Although I think the purpose of TL-3H is different than FH. I believe TL-3H is all about heavy loads to LEO/SSO; they don't even mention GTO capability. FH was intended for sending stuff to GTO, and the FH payload adapter can't handle heavy payloads, no?

TL-3M is some kind of spaceplane for e2e travel

[Anonymous No.16137313]

Elon just invented a thing claled being a bitch. Ive lost all respect for this man.

[Anonymous No.16137317]

>>16137313
you have been banned from going to space
fag

[Anonymous No.16137318]

>>16137313
What did he tweet now?

[Anonymous No.16137322]

>>16137214
they seem like mostly normal dudes, I was able to withstand watching them a few times when they have interesting guests

[Anonymous No.16137326]

>>16137312
>Well, yes. Space Pioneer seems to be all about moving lightning fast, having a hyper-aggressive schedule
To clarify, I was referring to their reason for attracting investors

[Anonymous No.16137327]

>>16137313
You cant be a woman if you transition.

[Anonymous No.16137361]

>>16137313
dilate

[Anonymous No.16137367]

>>16137361
cis

[Anonymous No.16137369]

>>16137367
>i was right
you're so easy to spot

[Anonymous No.16137370]

>>16137367
>>16137369
its not about musk being a fucking advocate for genocide, its about annoying YOU.

[Anonymous No.16137375]

ttd

[Anonymous No.16137376]

>>16137369
>doesn't even know to look at the ip count
go back to worshipping your censorship loving daddy on his website

[Anonymous No.16137381]

>>16137376
IP count got hidden over a month ago.

[Anonymous No.16137383]

>>16137367
Everybody is that, but some of you are playing pretend that you're not.

[Anonymous No.16137384]

>>16137381
jesus christ this place is really going to shit

[Anonymous No.16137388]

>>16137384
Lmao.
You need to use an email to post on /biz/ now btw.

[Anonymous No.16137389]

>>16137383
>Everybody is that
not the idiotic moron you use to cope with your daddy issues apparently. you could have at least picked someone who has actual sex with women, instead of just artificially impregnating them

[Anonymous No.16137396]

>gigamad tranny
many such cases

[Anonymous No.16137397]

>>16137183
kek

[Anonymous No.16137401]

>>16137396
you should be mad too at anyone that tries to strip you of your right to free speech, but you're a disgusting NPC who likes having a big daddy protect you from people expressing the "wrong" thoughts

[Anonymous No.16137402]

>>16137389
>he's upset that le ebil musk has spawned and will continue to spawn more children than you
wew lad.
so that's what this is about, you're upset that you can't have children like a real woman.

[Anonymous No.16137403]

Why do i feel so much hate for scott manley whenever i watch one of his vids?

[Anonymous No.16137406]

>>16137401
you're a mentally ill retard who fell for a gaslighting operation and you will dig this hole deeper and deeper for yourself until you commit suicide.

the only way out is admitting you have a mental illness and none of your fantasies are achievable, normal or healthy.

[Anonymous No.16137407]

>>16137402
seethe

[Anonymous No.16137408]

>>16137402
i'm a man, with real non-frankenstein children, but keep moving the goalposts

[Anonymous No.16137409]

>>16137403
unstable mind
he's just a random scottish guy, you should feel worried that you have random impulsive aggression towards some random voice inside your computer.

[Anonymous No.16137411]

>>16137406
>fell for a gaslighting operation
coming from the guy defending someone that wants to censor wrongthink, that's gold

[Anonymous No.16137412]

>>16137401
He didn't even delete it, just limited visibility. I see your point though, I guess.

[Anonymous No.16137413]

>>16137407
can't do that when you're already this mad.
calm down son, you're not a woman, but the world is still spinning, everything else will go on as normal, the world's not gonna end because nobody will call you a she.

[Anonymous No.16137415]

>>16137411
>that wants to censor wrongthink
does he?
what wrongthink does he want to censor?
keep in mind that giving estrogen to children is not wrongthink it's wrongdoing and will be treated accordingly.

[Anonymous No.16137418]

>>16137415
>what wrongthink does he want to censor?
dissent against the turkish government, the indian government, the chinese governments and more and more everyday.
>giving estrogen to children is not wrongthink
i don't give a shit what political trash topic is trending, censorship is always wrong

[Anonymous No.16137419]

>>16137409
Nah, it's common sense, scott manley is somebody who didn't receive enough corrective bullying when growing up.

[Anonymous No.16137420]

>>16137389
I'm sorry that the world confused you, that must have been hard.

[Anonymous No.16137421]

Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.16137422]

>>16137389
who fucking keeps screenshots of Elon's tweets on his computer lmao

[Anonymous No.16137424]

>>16137419
sounds like you're projecting your own experiences onto a random man on the internet.
scott manley would probably beat the shit outta you, nerd.

[Anonymous No.16137425]

>>16137424
Go back to rebbit

[Anonymous No.16137426]

>>giving estrogen to children is not wrongthink
>i don't give a shit what political trash topic is trending, censorship is always wrong
false flagging tranny

[Anonymous No.16137427]

>>16137424
Nah, my dad can beat his dad.

[Anonymous No.16137428]

>>16137422
elon derangement syndrome will do that to you.

[Anonymous No.16137429]

My wife and I just had a son. We named him Elon (oak tree).

[Anonymous No.16137430]

>>16137367
based

[Anonymous No.16137432]

>>16137429
>and I
Lol.

[Anonymous No.16137433]

>>16137425
thank you for conceding.

[Anonymous No.16137434]

POST ABOUT ROCKETS YOU DUMB NIGGERS GO TO /pol/ FOR POLITICAL DISCUSSION

[Anonymous No.16137435]

WAI<<<NSF<Marcus House<<<<<MANLEY

[Anonymous No.16137436]

>>16137434
tell the upset tranny that.

[Anonymous No.16137438]

>>16137435
Switch NSF and Manlet and thats correct. Also LabPadre is above all of them.

[Anonymous No.16137439]

>>16137422
Losers who live only to see a (you) on this imageboard.
>>16137434
I like Starship as a heavy lift rocket, but harbor concerns regarding its ability to land on the moon without falling over. I want it to work, I'm not convinced yet that it shall.

[Anonymous No.16137440]

>>16137439
Landing legs exist for a reason, as well as gimballing engines.

[Anonymous No.16137442]

>>16137434
Spaceflight is political

[Anonymous No.16137447]

>>16137439
>>16137440
when the fuck do people learn that these rockets have most of their weight in the engine bay when they're nearly empty.
the center of mass is way lower than any of you think it is, it's like a mostly empty coke can with big legs on all sides, AKA plenty stable.

[Anonymous No.16137448]

>>16137418
you will never be a woman

[Anonymous No.16137450]

>>16137442
Artemis is an awful program that no president should want on his track record. The only thing Artemis got right was giving money to SpaceX, and the Space Force was basically already independent from the Air Force when it was announced. He has done little to nothing for spaceflight, and the things attirbuted to him wouldve and were happening without him, or are not things to be proud of.

[Anonymous No.16137452]

>>16137448
never wanted to be. you will never be free.

[Anonymous No.16137453]

>>16137447
Why am I being quoted in this I said that it was going to be stable.

[Anonymous No.16137455]

>>16137447
You say that, but all the recent landers keep tipping over and Starship is taller than anything that's ever tried landing.

[Anonymous No.16137456]

i know, i'm not disagreeing, i was just quoting the conversation as a hole and the fact that i see it pop up quite often.
it's weird how people assume mostly empty tubes with a lot of weight at the bottom aren't stable.

[Anonymous No.16137457]

>>16137455
Did you not read the post you stupid nigger? Lunar landers arent built the same as a Starship.

[Anonymous No.16137458]

>>16137455
>all the recent landers keep tipping over
due to no fault of the weight distribution.
if IM1 was squatter it would've still broken it's leg and fallen on the side, nothing would've changed.
SLIM just lost a goddamn engine bell long before touchdown, neither was the result of of instability.

[Anonymous No.16137462]

>>16137457
>Lunar landers arent built the same as a Starship.
Starship is meant to be a lunar lander.

[Anonymous No.16137463]

youre a nigger. blow me

[Anonymous No.16137464]

>>16137462
The largest rocket in history that is meant to land on the moon with people inside it and a cubic kilometer of livable volume is different than a pack of electronics with legs and a dinky little engine to slow its fall.

[Anonymous No.16137465]

Reminder we cant have nice things because of florida man.

[Anonymous No.16137467]

>>16137465
What did I do

[Anonymous No.16137469]

>>16137464
I don't think it is, though.
>>16137465
They did nothing wrong, "oh nooo you can't be near Dragon while its floating because, well just because okay?!"
Every splashdown should be greeted by hoards of drunken boaters cheering on their safe return.

[Anonymous No.16137472]

>>16137469
>They did nothing wrong

>While crews worked, many private boats entered the hazardous area defined by the Coast Guard despite earlier warnings. Some moving close to the capsule even passing between the capsule placing themselves and recovery crews themselves in danger. After radioed warnings, the boats dispersed to form a more distant ring around the capsule.

[Anonymous No.16137473]

>>16137469

[Anonymous No.16137474]

>>16137469
>i don't think it is though
that's okay, you can think things that are objectively wrong.

[Anonymous No.16137482]

>>16137472
>placing themselves and recovery crews themselves in danger.
What danger is presented by a guy sitting on his boat? Is he armed?
>>16137474
>>16137473
>Starship HLS is different from a lunar lander because I say so
Would you elaborate on that? Starship is tippy even here on Earth, why wouldn't you expect similar behavior on the moon? It's gonna need a really nice flat spot to put down.

[Anonymous No.16137486]

>>16137296
it's called making a joke, and if you want to not make a fool of yourself you should learn to recognize the signs

[Anonymous No.16137487]

>>16137482
>What danger is presented by a guy sitting on his boat? Is he armed?
Florida man is always armed, but that's not the problem, the problem is the boat crew needs to check for hypergolic leaks from reentry before they can load the capsule on the barge, and some drunk redneck in his boat floating in between you and the capsule is a obstacle.
And in a worst case scenario if theyre is a leak they could breath in poison or even light it up.

[Anonymous No.16137492]

>starship 4 will have its booster make a virtual soft landing
if it doesn't do this, can we all agree to actually the mission a failure?
having hard goals is a good idea, since you can't just be yesmanned

[Anonymous No.16137494]

>>16137458
That's the point: both were (way, way) off nominal. It's possible that, with lower centers of mass or wider legs, they'd've managed to stay upright even after the failures. Similarly, HLS landing nominally isn't the problem; the problem is if there's some kind of failure that induces a tipping moment. Figuring out how much margin they want is 'just' a matter of engineering, of course.

[Anonymous No.16137495]

>>16137492
Starship will never make it to orbit if it's supposed to land back on Earth. Even if you go areound the Earth once if you still come back down you are suborbital. the whole thing is a massive failure

[Anonymous No.16137496]

>>16137492
There were always hard goals for each launch, and they are always stated clearly beforehand.
Schizos pretend that Musk is coping, since they didn't care to know anything about it until they heard that his rocket exploded.

[Anonymous No.16137497]

>>16137450
Greatest space President in history

[Anonymous No.16137502]

>>16137482
>something meant to be human-rated magically is just like something throwaway that wasn't human rated because i say so.
no, buy you're free to think that.

[Anonymous No.16137503]

>>16137496
i know launch 1 was "get off the launchpad" and 3 had the side mission of 0g tank-to-tank transfer, but what were the other hard goals? Did any hard goal fail?

[Anonymous No.16137504]

>>16137492
i'm afraid none of your requirements for success matter. only spacex's do, since they're the ones testing.

[Anonymous No.16137505]

>>16137403
This but for that insufferable little faggot Matt Lowne

[Anonymous No.16137507]

>>16137486
my point is, this is a very specific type of joke

[Anonymous No.16137509]

>>16137502
So you will NOT elaborate on your arbitrary opinion and choose instead a hollow attempt at mockery to cover up your inability to articulate your thoughts.
You can just say "Yeah I think it'll work and your fears are unfounded" if you want to, that's perfectly fine and you may be correct. I think stability is a significant factor in Starship HLS and I believe it will require more forethought than "none at all, it's fine don't worry".

[Anonymous No.16137513]

>>16137507
my proposed term for it is 'sarcasm'.
>>16137403
>>16137505
/sfg/ is 4chan's answer to old boomers going on facebook to complain about how they hate watching cnn

[Anonymous No.16137514]

>>16137492
For previous missions Ive agreed that not getting to the "final destinations" was not a requirement for success, but considering that IFT-3 actually made it to the points (still a success), I do have to agree that if these arent done its a failure since data WAS gathered on these.

[Anonymous No.16137515]

>>16137497
Is Kennedy. And nobody likes the shitty OPs you make. Go back to >>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.16137516]

>>16137509
you haven't read what i said, why on earth do you expect a man-rated craft to be held to the same safety standards as a 1st time robotic mission by an inexperienced company, while also ignoring the fact that the failure modes that those two experienced had nothing to do with their mass distribution.
your fears are midwit fears. obviously it will require forethought, who the fuck said it didn't? you're fighting a strawman that doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.16137517]

>>16137516
>you're fighting a strawman that doesn't exist.
No, u.

[Anonymous No.16137519]

I feel like this general is the only place on 4chan that doesnt hate jeets. Its weird but understandable since they have made a really good effort with spaceflight.
>inb4 youre indian
Nope. Not an ounce of curry in me.

[Anonymous No.16137522]

>>16137519
I'll make street-shitter jokes about them all day but I still am genuinely excited to see their manned capsule fly and wish them great success.

[Anonymous No.16137524]

>>16137515
Actually fun fact, he died accomplishing nothing

[Anonymous No.16137528]

>>16137524
Daily reminder that the CIA murdered him in front of everyone and tried to pass off a pasty as the real culprit, then murdered the patsy and pretended everything was settled.

[Anonymous No.16137531]

>>16137528
They did the right thing considering

[Anonymous No.16137534]

>>16137519
chink vs. jeet comment sections on launch streams are one of my favorite things in the world

[Anonymous No.16137535]

>>16137531
YWNGTS subhuman

[Anonymous No.16137541]

>>16137528
I thought it was mossad?

[Anonymous No.16137542]

>>16137519
just like the jeets themselves, i seperate between upper caste jeets (the intelligent ones that do the spaceflight)
and the lower caste subhumans that bathe in shit and poop all over the internet with their callcenter and call-a-shill antics.

[Anonymous No.16137544]

>>16137531
They were jealous he got to bang Marilyn Monroe and they didn't

[Anonymous No.16137546]

>>16137542
It helps that they're color coded. Unfortunately it seems like the caste system is finally dying.

[Anonymous No.16137555]

>>16137541
Same thing

[Anonymous No.16137562]

Half of this general needs to accept and understand this.

[Anonymous No.16137571]

[Anonymous No.16137577]

>>16137571
why does this look AI upscaled

[Anonymous No.16137579]

>>16137571
beautiful, best ISS telescope shot I've seen so far

[Anonymous No.16137580]

>>16137577
probably some post processing since it was taken from a ground camera

[Anonymous No.16137586]

https://thedebrief.org/nasa-veterans-propellantless-propulsion-drive-that-physics-says-shouldnt-work-just-produced-enough-thrust-to-defeat-earths-gravity/

[Anonymous No.16137590]

If elon really wants to launch a fleet of starships to loiter in orbit every 2 years, arent the astronomers gonna get pissed? those are big shiny

[Anonymous No.16137592]

>>16137571
nnnnnnnyoooooom

[Anonymous No.16137593]

>>16137586
lmao

[Anonymous No.16137598]

>>16137586
>thedebrief
>ai art
>produced '1 gravity of thrust' i.e. 9.81 newtons
nice bait article faggot, your memedrive will NEVER be used on a real rocket

[Anonymous No.16137599]

>>16137586
>APEC
bitch please, let's see the flight hardware

[Anonymous No.16137608]

>>16137592
Yiddish

[Anonymous No.16137611]

>>16137608
What?

[Anonymous No.16137620]

>>16137611
You are making a positive post about the ISS therefore you are a jew. Whats so confusing about that? Its very easy to follow.

[Anonymous No.16137621]

>>16137620
absolutely deranged
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.16137622]

>>16137620
>You are making a positive post
I posted an image and a sound effect, anything else is just you.

[Anonymous No.16137623]

>>16137622
>>16137621
>>16137611
Thanks for the (You)s

[Anonymous No.16137632]

>>16137586
QI bros we are so back.
https://science.slashdot.org/story/24/04/19/223206/nasa-veteran-behind-propellantless-propulsion-drive-announces-major-discovery

[Anonymous No.16137633]

Thread is shit, so nobody will notice me asking about /sfg/ aproved scfi shows.
recently watched the expanse, and it went from really good to crashing and burning in the last two seasons.

[Anonymous No.16137634]

>>16137633
all movies and shows are pozzed

[Anonymous No.16137635]

>>16137633
I wish they just didn't do the extraterrestrial shit at all, the setting and characters are interesting enough on their own to have hung a good story on.
>>16137634
This, sadly.

[Anonymous No.16137637]

>>16137634
Hey youre not me (also this is going in my folder of (You)s)

[Anonymous No.16137638]

>>16137633
Planetes

[Anonymous No.16137640]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/rocket-report-starship-could-save-mars-sample-return-be-4s-for-second-vulcan/

Small Rockets
>Going vertical Down Under.
>Astrobotic seeks military business.
>Orbex gets another tranche of funding.

Medium Rockets
>20-for-20 for SpaceX's fleet leader.
>Russia's space chief is dreaming big.
>Everything is coming together for Starliner
>Looking back at SpaceX's first sooty rocket.
>Final hotfire for Ariane 6's upper stage.

Heavy Rockets
>SpaceX could play a role in Mars Sample Return
>ULA has received two more BE-4 engines.

[Anonymous No.16137641]

>>16137638
gay faggot garbage. watch space brothers instead.

[Anonymous No.16137642]

>>16137640
ITS NOT SOOT ITS SCORCH MARKS

[Anonymous No.16137643]

>“There are rules that include conservation of energy, but if done correctly, one can generate forces unlike anything humankind has done before,” Buhler added. “It will be this force that we will use to propel objects for the next 1,000 years… until the next thing comes.”

I can sniff out the grift and delusions of grandeur from a mile away at this point

[Anonymous No.16137647]

>>16137642
wrong

[Anonymous No.16137649]

>>16137638
>>16137641
I liked both, but i find the subplot of the giant underage russian ballerina&daughter of a cosmonaut falling in love with the japanese manlet brother astronaut kind of hilarious.

[Anonymous No.16137650]

>>16137647
wrong
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1068940024136126464

[Anonymous No.16137651]

>>16137633
Doctor Stone. The entire show builds up to spaceflight via rocket, literally from the stone age to the space age so this is actually on topic.

[Anonymous No.16137653]

This general is pozzed

[Anonymous No.16137656]

>>16136960
that's not a Vulcan rocket dummy

[Anonymous No.16137658]

>>16137653
L

[Anonymous No.16137662]

Did we get any clarification on the new Chinese aerospace force? I looked again but didn't notice anything.

[Anonymous No.16137663]

>>16137662
brilliant bebbles will deal with them

[Anonymous No.16137665]

>>16137662
>he actually cares about chinese spaceflight

[Anonymous No.16137668]

>>16137656
you're right anon, it's a picture of a pretend vulcan. nothing gets past you.

[Anonymous No.16137673]

What are the fucking odds that two different propellant propulsion devices have been vacuum tested and showed signs of measurable thrust in the past 4 years, meaning this and that IVO drive

[Anonymous No.16137679]

>>16136960
That's actually a really neat looking rocket, what does it look like on the pad?

[Anonymous No.16137681]

>>16137665
space warfare, so yeah, sometimes that includes the chinese

[B No.16137683]

>>16137681
Mouf

[Anonymous No.16137685]

>>16137651
That one is in my backlog, lot's of fanservice in that one.

[B No.16137687]

>>16137683
It's hard to find new stuff but at the rate im going I can't help but think im attributing to that. And I predict their gone in this very instance. 200 years and their other enemies.

[Anonymous No.16137692]

>>16137673
propellantless*

[Anonymous No.16137693]

>>16137687
>>16137683
Fuck off namefaggot

[Anonymous No.16137695]

>>16137673
if this is real then it shouldn't be that hard to make a video demonstration. i'll start caring if i see one of those.

[Anonymous No.16137696]

>>16137695
>>16137673

>The team also tested different configurations that eliminated the old designs using asymmetrical capacitors and instead employed models with opposing asymmetrical plates.

omg its basically the same method in both

[B No.16137699]

>>16137693
Fart on me

[Anonymous No.16137701]

>>16137693
it's a bot

[Anonymous No.16137713]

>>16137701
Oh.. its B*rkun. The bot owner changed its name again, probably because it keeps getting banned.

[B No.16137715]

>>16137713
What who's barkon

I'm new to this bord

[B No.16137718]

Cracka.

Christmas Cracker

[B No.16137720]

>>16137718
It does new shit on the side, effortlessly. It is new shit

[Anonymous No.16137726]

its magic bitches

[Anonymous No.16137728]

>>16137726
Congratulations on achieving 10 newtons of thrust.

[Anonymous No.16137729]

>>16137726
And like magic, it doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.16137731]

>>16137728
Order of magnitude (lmao) improvement over ion drives

[Anonymous No.16137735]

>>16137651
I didn't know it went that far up the tech tree, I may have to check that out.

[Anonymous No.16137739]

>>16137571
Wow those rollout solar panels are a lot bigger than I thought

[Anonymous No.16137740]

>>16137731
Kys

[Anonymous No.16137741]

>>16137729
Cope harder, why would two independent labs researching basically the same method entirely isolated from each other reach similar results?

We in the speculative motive physics era now bitches

[Anonymous No.16137743]

Mods should just burn this thread so the bots go away.

[Anonymous No.16137744]

>>16137435
what about he nig?

[Anonymous No.16137748]

>>16137741
The two independent labs are showing exactly fuck-all about their methods and just claiming results.

[Anonymous No.16137750]

>>16137435
Aussie > Scottsman >>> German >>>> merch shills

[Anonymous No.16137751]

>>16137633
>hard SF
Planetes
Gundam
>we wuz ayy lmaos tier
Stargate, SG-1, Atlantis
>magic space woo woo but rotating space stations tier
The Expanse
Babylon 5
>lalala space magic tier
Macross / Robotech
>hard SF that hasn't had a screen adaptation yet
Theft of Fire

[Anonymous No.16137752]

>>16137592
Shuttle's so cool. the way it hung out with its wings horizontal to the airstream was kino. I bet it caused a noticeable extra drag on the station when it was docked.

[Anonymous No.16137754]

>>16137751
See >>16137641

[Anonymous No.16137759]

>>16137752
We should send one back up there to measure that for science and to take cool pictures of a space shuttle orbiter next to a Crew Dragon

Lets send Atlantis

[Anonymous No.16137761]

>>16137751
>GUNDAM is hard sf
lol

[Anonymous No.16137764]

>>16137748
Cope Luddite

[Anonymous No.16137767]

>>16137662
It doesn't matter. What matters is the hardware.

The reorganization only matters to the extent it indicates that China has new space capabilities in the works that justify elevating space to its own branch. Such as Minospace's new 230kg stackable flat panel SAR satellites, various new reusable launch vehicles, etc.

[Anonymous No.16137768]

>>16137751
>Planetes
Watched it, liked it, did not age so well
>Gundam
watched the more mainstream ones, the animation is getting a lot better but the writing does not, the latest one with the lesbians was just bad.
>Stargate, SG-1, Atlantis
Love it, one of my favorite scfi shows ever, i really fear the amazon reboot that is in the works.
>The Expanse
read the books, watched the show, they really butcher it in the later seasons for woke reasons, also a amazon show btw.
>Babylon 5
i tried watching it several times but it doesnt click.
>Macross / Robotech
Only watched the macross movie, and the pop idol thing is a bit too much for me.
>Theft of Fire
Going to look it up.

Not really scfi because it's just drama in a space setting, but i liked the battlestar galactica reboot too.

[Anonymous No.16137770]

>>16137586

Reading between the lines here its so obvious what they're saying to IVO without saying it lol

[Anonymous No.16137771]

>>16137764
They will never successfully and unambiguously demonstrate a working system.

[Anonymous No.16137773]

>>16137770
>grifters are gonna lawsuit other grifters for using their grifter patent
am i getting this right?

[Anonymous No.16137774]

>>16137773
Yeah basically patent wars shit

[Anonymous No.16137779]

Man I really get the sense that things are slowly converging on something, I don't think the answer is QI but it could be it

[Anonymous No.16137781]

>>16137759
The orbiter mogs dragon so hard. The size difference is nuts

[Anonymous No.16137782]

>>16137779
tape outgassing drive + electrical issues

[Anonymous No.16137784]

>>16137658
i do this

[Anonymous No.16137785]

>>16137781
Oh yeah? Well Starship mogs Orbiter

[Anonymous No.16137786]

>>16137782
This has been the cause of all anomalous propellant-less thrust to date. Unless someone can figure out a mechanism by which they can obey conservation laws, these machines as presented are fundamentally free energy devices. Overturning Noether's Theorem is not bloody likely.

[Anonymous No.16137787]

>>16137785
fucking BAAAAAAASED

[Anonymous No.16137788]

>>16137786
Buckle up because your precious man-made laws are of no concern to the universe

>Another unusual result from their tests was that sometimes the tested devices did not require a constant input of electrical charge to maintain their thrust. Given that the device already appears to violate the known laws of physics by creating thrust without propellant, this result even stumped Dr. Buhler and his team.

>“We can see some of these things sit on a scale for days, and if they still have charge in them, they are still producing thrust,” he told Ventura. “It’s very hard to reconcile, from a scientific point of view because it does seem to violate a lot of energy laws that we have.”

Don't get bogged down by theory, follow empirical results and outcomes wherever they lead

[Anonymous No.16137789]

>>16137781
Shut up you fat smelly nigger

[Anonymous No.16137791]

>>16137788
These claims are extraordinary. So much so that I want very damn good evidence to show that it's not absolute bullshit.

[Anonymous No.16137792]

>>16137788
ok then do it and become a trillionaire, it's that easy

[Anonymous No.16137793]

>>16137785
If it ever docks with the station that is

[Anonymous No.16137794]

>>16137663
prilliant bebbles will save us from ICBMs, trust. Elon told me he hid them in starlink.

[Anonymous No.16137795]

>>16137791
Honestly the fact that another company likely copied their patent and achieved similar outcomes to the point they launched it to test in space is really leading me to conclude they're onto something here

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2020159603A2/en

[Anonymous No.16137796]

whats all this talk about genius gravel?

[Anonymous No.16137797]

>>16137796
you mean fruity pebbles?

[Anonymous No.16137799]

>>16137796
Thinky rocks?

[Anonymous No.16137800]

>>16137796
Never heard of it. We were talking about luminous lignite

[Anonymous No.16137801]

>>16137795
>another company likely copied their patent and achieved similar outcomes
Suffice to say, barring sufficient evidence to the contrary: Bullshit.

[Anonymous No.16137802]

>>16137801
Okay well we'll see with the next cubesat IVO launches

[Anonymous No.16137803]

>>16137795
lk99 burned me out on longshot memetech breakthrough claims for this decade but good luck latching your hopes to it anon

[Anonymous No.16137804]

>>16137796
clever calcium carbonate?

[Anonymous No.16137806]

>>16137802
The last one reentered without doing anything. Call me suspicious, but I think we're going to see repeats of spurious claims of technical failure when the experiments produce null results.

[Anonymous No.16137808]

>>16137806
Yeah but tbf it was also the first ever cubesat by the company that chose to host the IVO drive so

[Anonymous No.16137814]

This machine poops rovers

[Anonymous No.16137819]

>>16137814
Mmmmmm for once I understand indians

[Anonymous No.16137821]

>>16137651
Have they got that far in the anime? When I watched it they only managed to get to the platinum stash.

[Anonymous No.16137822]

1 year anniversity.

[Anonymous No.16137823]

>>16137796
Sagacious silt

[Anonymous No.16137832]

>>16137821
Fail spoil, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.16137839]

>>16137822

[Anonymous No.16137843]

>>16137832
no spoilers on /sci/

[Anonymous No.16137847]

>>16137839
no water, no steel plates. just raw dogging that concrete

[Anonymous No.16137848]

>>16137814

[Anonymous No.16137864]

>>16137598
if I was generous, I could say "overcome earth's gravity" means "thrust >= mass of engine * g"

[Anonymous No.16137867]

>>16137848
>pressurized rovers
would it make sense to have everything mobile instead of a permanent base?
I imagine if you were making a permanent base, the first few modules would probably be pretty easy to move around anyway.
So until you really start building shit (digging holes, mines, fuel plants), why not just have a bunch of pressurized RV vans

[Anonymous No.16137869]

>>16137864
yes

[Anonymous No.16137870]

>>16137788
so, to a worthless hardware test where the testers are too scared to turn it on and it just deorbits?
cool.

[Anonymous No.16137871]

>>16137796
cunning calcite.

[Anonymous No.16137873]

>>16137843
wrong

[Anonymous No.16137890]

>>16137497
he's the best modern space president since Lyndon B Johnson, who did the same thing that Trump did and stayed the fuck out of the way and let things come to fruition

[Anonymous No.16137897]

>>16137269
If they launch successfully this summer they will have the most insane track record, 5 years from founding to Falcon 9 with zero launch failures

[Anonymous No.16137898]

>>16137586
look, if they have T/W ratio > 1 then they need to make a flying machine

[Anonymous No.16137899]

>>16137873

[Anonymous No.16137901]

>>16137897
Nigger they have ONE (1) ((UNO)) (((壹))) launch on record.

Thats not a track record. It's fucking nothing.

[Anonymous No.16137902]

>>16137814
That gay NASA rover isn't going anywhere.

[Anonymous No.16137904]

>>16137902
its clearly going somewhere you can see it in the pictture it looks to be moving away from the lander that brought it there (and deposited it onto the surface)

[Anonymous No.16137905]

>>16137904

[Anonymous No.16137906]

>>16137902
you're right, it's going to be JAXA rovers doing all the work.

[Anonymous No.16137907]

>>16137904
>>16137902
>>16137814
better view here >>16137848
>>16137905

[Anonymous No.16137920]

>>16137905
we should make menhir shaped rockets

[Anonymous No.16137923]

SpaceX with that cargo space flex

[Anonymous No.16137927]

>>16137923
Where'd these renders come from anyway?

[Anonymous No.16137932]

>>16137927
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/esdmd/artemis-campaign-development-division/human-landing-system-program/work-underway-on-large-cargo-landers-for-nasas-artemis-moon-missions/

[Anonymous No.16137940]

>>16137923
The Blue Origin lander is clearly a more grounded proposal so it's good for NASA to have as a backup. I still think the Blue origin one will ultiamtely land on the moon before Starship because of how less ambitious it is. It's a shame the blue one uses hydromeme because if it used methane then Starship tankers and the blue lander could perfectly compliment eachother. A starship tanker in low lunar orbit could provide enough fuel for many blue landings. Not to mention that hydromeme has the potential of setting the crew on fire due to how hard to handle it is.

[Anonymous No.16137941]

>>16137940
>blue origin
>getting anything done
I'll believe it when I see it.

[Anonymous No.16137944]

>>16137728
no, anon, reading the article it says that it's measuring T/W ratio

[Anonymous No.16137945]

>>16137940
It's not less ambitious. it's just smaller. it's arguably more untested

[Anonymous No.16137946]

>>16137768
>Gundam
which ones are the mainstream ones for you?
the first few UC gundams up to CCA are pretty alright

[Anonymous No.16137953]

>>16137946
Couple of the UC ones, wing, seed, teh one with the kid who kept saying he was a gundam, then i skipped gundam for years but noticed unicorn and now i'm catching up.
Recently watched the one about the clone daughter MC but that one has too much wasted potential.

[Anonymous No.16137954]

>>16137788
okay this seems like some sort of weird electrostatic thing
I bet if you let it move it'll solve itself and the force will disappear

[Anonymous No.16137956]

bros is for real? any photos?

[Anonymous No.16137958]

>>16137954
Just like if you move a flying wing from a wind tunnel into the open air it will not generate lift

[Anonymous No.16137959]

>>16137945
Blue moon requires one refuelling trip and flies on a rocket thats already basically fully developed. It also has more margin for a funky landing due to being short. So theonly risk factor is the lander itself, even if New Glenn cant be reused it doesnt matter since there is a low number of flights per mission. Starship requies the development of a fully and rapidly reusable superheavy launch vehicle. Anything short of that means Starship HLS will be much more expensive than using an expendable lander and will ultimately make Artemis unaffordable. Not to mention that the actual landing thrusters are les mature in their development than the blue origin ones sine up until recently Musk was saying they would land on raptors

[Anonymous No.16137962]

>>16137956
photos of what? hes a photo

[Anonymous No.16137963]

>>16137953
I'm going to finish ZZ and then watch G
Haman Karn's manga is too good so I need to figure out what fucked up shit she gets into in ZZ because she had an interesting dynamic with Casval in Zeta
>>16137958
are you retarded

[Anonymous No.16137966]

>>16137963
they are doing new ova versions of the older UC, is it any good?

[Anonymous No.16137968]

>>16137966
fuck if I know, the only new Gundam I've watched was Unicorn, which is what got me to actually watch the series

[Anonymous No.16137971]

>>16137968
Stay away from the one about the orphans on mars.

[Anonymous No.16137973]

>>16137662
>The ASF is responsible for nearly all PLA space operations, including
>space launch and support;
>space surveillance;
>space information support;
>space telemetry, tracking, and control;
>and space warfare.
>The PRC seeks to enhance the PLA’s command and control C2 for joint operations and establish a real-time surveillance, reconnaissance, and warning system, and it is increasing the number and capabilities of its space systems, including communications and intelligence satellites, as well as the BeiDou navigation satellite system.
>The ASF operates at least eight bases, including those whose core missions are the launch, tracking, R&D, and operation of the satellites vital to the PRC’s overhead C4ISR architecture. The ASF operates tracking, telemetry, and command (TT&C) stations in multiple locations worldwide to guide space missions around the Earth as well as in cislunar and deep space. The ASF also operates Yuanwang space support ships that track satellite and ICBM launches.
>China has five launch sites, including four land-based and one sea-based. The ASF ’s China Launch and Tracking Control (CLTC) operates all four fixed launch sites in China, in addition to Yuanwang space support ships (SESS), two major satellite control centers—Xian Satellite Control Center (XSCC) and the Beijing Aerospace Control Center (BACC)—and the PLA TT&C system for all Chinese satellites.
https://media.defense.gov/2023/Oct/19/2003323409/-1/-1/1/2023-MILITARY-AND-SECURITY-DEVELOPMENTS-INVOLVING-THE-PEOPLES-REPUBLIC-OF-CHINA.PDF

[Anonymous No.16137980]

>>16137962
It looks significantly harder to get a cat strapped into one of those than a dog.

[Anonymous No.16137981]

>>16137962
photos of the meme drive

[Anonymous No.16137984]

>Thx. This is the latest in a long line of asymmetrical systems (TT Brownian) that are predicted by QI.

[Anonymous No.16137986]

>>16137984
Well he's right, and the paper discussing it is 1 year before the patent application from Buhler, interesting

https://www.tsijournals.com/articles/propellantless-propulsion-from-quantized-inertia-13923.html

[Anonymous No.16137988]

>>16137986
>2018

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2020159603A2/en
>patent filed 2019

[Anonymous No.16137990]

>>16137981
Video of it in operation

[Anonymous No.16137991]

>>16137839
in retrospect this launch was even more based than 2 or 3, though 3 was perhaps more kino
2 had the very kino hot staging shots though

[Anonymous No.16137995]

>>16137959
>basically fully developed
I'll believe it when I see it

[Anonymous No.16137998]

>The experiments are nearly identical, both involving asymmetric capacitors, but the theories are very different. IVO drive is based on Quantized Inertia, which is highly speculative. Buhler's theory seems to be based on somewhat known physics derived from years of experiments. This also expands on what Becker and Bhatt noticed with dielectric layering.

[Anonymous No.16138000]

According to the co-author of the patent (Andrew "Drew" Aurigema), IVO have essentially copied their design, regardless of whatever theory IVO claims to be behind it. Drew is quite pleased by this, as it should also serve to validate their design. In any case, it's a form of Lafforgue thruster (based on electrostatic pressure) as demonstrated by Naudin over 20 years ago: http://jnaudin.free.fr/lfpt/index.html

More on electrostatic pressure: https://phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Electricity_and_Magnetism/Electromagnetics_and_Applications_(Staelin)/05%3A_Electromagnetic_Forces/5.05%3A_Electric_and_magnetic_pressure

The main issue with it is that an opposing "reaction" seems to either not exist, or is causing stress and ultimately breakdown in the dielectric (or is somehow pushing on spacetime itself).

[Anonymous No.16138002]

>>16138000
from nsf btw https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=60131.0

I wouldn't be surprised if the drive works but the reason is not QI

[Anonymous No.16138008]

>>16137998
Becker and Bhatt are pro QI though.

[Anonymous No.16138009]

>>16137971
the first season of Iron Blooded Orphans was good
I dropped the second season in the first episode

[Anonymous No.16138015]

>>16138008
Doesn't seem like Drew and Bluher are, but ultimately it doesn't matter, what matters is the drive works or not

[Anonymous No.16138022]

>>16138000
Still sounds like bullshit. The only thing that wouldn't necessarily be complete bullshit is somehow blocking the exchange of gravitons, at which point the effective rise would only be the same effect as centrifugal forces.

[Anonymous No.16138040]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1781775286809563515

[Anonymous No.16138041]

>>16138040

[Anonymous No.16138042]

>>16138040
>1 year since launch
>only 3 total launches
grim

[Anonymous No.16138044]

>>16138041

[Anonymous No.16138045]

>>16137003
>betraying his heritage
typical elon cuck

[Anonymous No.16138046]

>>16138044

[Anonymous No.16138048]

Why did Elon cuck himself?

[Anonymous No.16138050]

>>16137389
>No one will recognize the joke that cis sounds like south african slang for gross/disgusting

[Anonymous No.16138051]

>>16138045
he's not german

[Anonymous No.16138056]

>>16138050
Fat retard

[Anonymous No.16138057]

Elon is finished. Bezos is more of a man now.

[Anonymous No.16138062]

What is it with Jews being obsessed with cuckoldry? It's like how Russians can't stop thinking about gay sex.

[Anonymous No.16138064]

>Space Pioneer is actually naming their (eventualy reusable) Tianlong 3 first stages
cool

[Anonymous No.16138072]

>>16137959
If you think Starship is taking too long to develop wowee you're gonna be absolutely amazed how long Blue Origin takes. mid 2030s is optimistic

[Anonymous No.16138078]

>>16138042
>fastest first 3 launches of a superheavy rocket

[Anonymous No.16138086]

So I guess June huh?

[Anonymous No.16138091]

>>16138078
>>16138042
>Shuttle
>2 launches in 1981
>3 launches in 1982
>Saturn V
>1 launch in 1967
>2 launches in 1968
>4 launches in 1969

[Anonymous No.16138092]

>>16138086
NET june, most likely august

[Anonymous No.16138093]

>>16138078
um, starship launched 6 times sweaty.

[Anonymous No.16138097]

>>16138091
>shuttle launches in 2024
>0
>saturn v launches in 2024
>0
the future bodes badly

[Anonymous No.16138101]

>>16137990
lol

[Anonymous No.16138103]

If we restarted Nazisim to create wunderwaffes, will aerospace be interesting again?

[Anonymous No.16138104]

>>16137959
>He doesn't know about the HLS landing thrusters
There have been a bunch of static fires in Boca Chica newfag. In development for 2 years. Where do you think they pulled that random hot gas RCS thruster from that appeared 2 years ago in Boca?

[Anonymous No.16138105]

>>16138097
its over for this cunt

[Anonymous No.16138106]

>>16138092
>almost halfway through the year
But but but 10 launches 2024?

[Anonymous No.16138108]

>>16138103
we're working on it

[Anonymous No.16138110]

>>16138091
If SpaceX manages two more launches this year, they'll match the introductory launch rate with the Shuttle. At three, they'll exceed it.

[Anonymous No.16138111]

>>16138104
>tatic fires in Boca Chica
meant to say Mcgregor

[Anonymous No.16138112]

>>16138110
is victory for muskrats now just being as good as the shuttle? lol. how far weve fallen.

[Anonymous No.16138113]

>>16136956
HH

[Anonymous No.16138116]

>>16138112
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[Anonymous No.16138117]

>>16138106
its over. Unironically. Wonder why musk wasnt at the IFT3 launch?

[Anonymous No.16138119]

>>16138062
Why are you so obsessed with complaining about cuckoldry?

[Anonymous No.16138120]

>>16138086
No tard, its happening May.

[Anonymous No.16138122]

>hundreds of different kinds of aircraft were built in the 20th century
>only a handful of manned spacecraft have been built in 70 years of spaceflight
today is depressing

[Anonymous No.16138126]

>>16138117
re-watch the recent all hands: the employees are not enthused, they are completely demoralized. they know it's all a joke

[Anonymous No.16138128]

Hey, foreign government Demoralizing agit-prop agents: the future is glorious and it's leaving you behind whether you like it or not.

[Anonymous No.16138129]

>>16138120
Nope they have to alter the license which means starting the permit process from scratch

[Anonymous No.16138130]

/sci/ really needs unique IDs. I know its you samefagging all the anti-musk shit this entire thread I just cant prove it, and janny wont do shit about you either. Youre killing the general if you havent noticed.

[Anonymous No.16138133]

>Youre killing the general if you havent noticed.
That's their intent. Ignore them.

[Anonymous No.16138134]

>>16138133
Yeah Ive tried that. But others reply. I know its a regular of /sfg/ that does this because only a regular /sfg/ poster would know these incredibly specific points. I can ignore it but because its not completely obvious as bait to newfags they always reply.

[Anonymous No.16138136]

Will the next one be a daytime launch?

[Anonymous No.16138137]

>>16138130
ironically posting EDS rants is a tradition as old as the general tbqh
maybe people should be less easy to bait and troll

[Anonymous No.16138139]

>>16138137
The tradition is being abused. One EDS rant a thread is fine, but 5-10 is ruining the general. If its you, please limit yourself atleast that much.

[Anonymous No.16138140]

Salty "sfg is ruined" posters should really just stay gone.

[Anonymous No.16138141]

>>16138139
Yep. Ironic shitposting eventually becomes shitposting

[Anonymous No.16138145]

>>16138130

[Anonymous No.16138147]

I will never abandon /sfg/.
Without this place, I would have never learned of Clear.
Stay positive friends!

[Anonymous No.16138149]

>>16138130
We need accounts or at least email verification like /biz/ at a minimum

[Anonymous No.16138152]

>>16138149
Fuck that you dumb retard nigger. The entire board was abandoned and an average of 15 ppm dropped to 2 ppm. I come to this website to stay anonymous also, I dont need them storing my fucking email to sell to some retard pajeets trying to scam. Just add unique ID so we can filter baiters, its THAT easy. There was a thread up about this before on /sci/ and literally everyone that was ABLE to reply before janny pruned it said that was a retarded idea.

[Anonymous No.16138155]

>>16138134
stupid frogposter

[Anonymous No.16138156]

>>16138155
stupid fairyposter

[Anonymous No.16138160]

every fucking time some moron is ruining the discussion with retarded fucking shit this is unreal, whole board, flaming shit with no arguments

[Anonymous No.16138162]

>>16138160
Speak english and punctuate your sentences correctly.

[Anonymous No.16138163]

*English

[Anonymous No.16138167]

>>16138163
Fuck you Ivan

[Anonymous No.16138168]

*Fuck, you Ivan.

[Anonymous No.16138171]

>>16138162
>english
>e

[Anonymous No.16138181]

slovenia signs artemis accords
https://spacenews.com/slovenia-signs-artemis-accords/

[Anonymous No.16138182]

enough with the off topic shit. anyway the Soviets just got their first man on Minmus, beating the US who were racing to a Mun landing.

[Anonymous No.16138184]

>>16138182
this is fake.
it's from a video game, lol

[Anonymous No.16138186]

>>16138181
we already know

[Anonymous No.16138187]

>>16137633
read a fucking textbook
if you must read fiction read something Elon approved

[Anonymous No.16138188]

>>16138181
>“We recognize Slovenia as a rising leader in space,” said Jamie Harpootlian, the U.S. ambassador to Slovenia
lol
just fucking lol

[Anonymous No.16138189]

>>16138184
no it's not

[Anonymous No.16138192]

>>16138184
you can't prove that

[Anonymous No.16138194]

>>16138187
>something Elon approved
Indulge me.

[Anonymous No.16138196]

>>16137788
I followed the empirical results and made the whole spacecraft out of tape

[Anonymous No.16138198]

>>16138194
He likes Dune apparantly.

[Anonymous No.16138202]

So the founding Martians will basically be what the pilgrims are, what will the rapefugees of Mars be though?

[Anonymous No.16138205]

>>16138202
Do you get refugees going to Antarctica or the arctic circle?
It should be difficult and painful to live on mars. You want the kind of people that would go despite that.

[Anonymous No.16138206]

>>16138198
Imma say it sand worms are fucking retarded. he should know with that boring bullshit

[Anonymous No.16138208]

We should crowdfund an /sfg/ meetup at KSC and all do the VIP tour!

[Anonymous No.16138209]

>>16138208
This guy is a serial killer for sure. Also youre not getting any of our hard earned clams

[Anonymous No.16138212]

>>16138134

[Anonymous No.16138215]

>>16138152
what was the justification given for removing number of posters? seems kind of retarded

[Anonymous No.16138218]

>>16138208
How about September 30th?

[Anonymous No.16138219]

>>16138194
Ian M Banks Culture series
Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy series

[Anonymous No.16138221]

>>16138091
not a superheavy vehicle
>inb4 NUUUUH THE SHUTTLE IS PAYLOAD NOT DRY MASS
tongue my ass nigger.

[Anonymous No.16138224]

>>16138219
I will check it out.

[Anonymous No.16138226]

>>16138221
If we want to make that particular argument, at 40 tons capacity, neither is Starship.

[Anonymous No.16138227]

>>16138141
this is why i go out of my way to mock "only pretending" retards as much as possible.
if you're that dedicated to pretending to be retarded for hours and hours in a row to "fool" people you're very likely just actually retarded.

[Anonymous No.16138229]

>>16138218
whats special about that day

[Anonymous No.16138232]

>>16138226
>completely unoptimized, with excess dry mass, likely underfueled
yeah nah, can't really take it seriously.
everything musk says is bullshit but the moment he says something that could be considered negative it's suddenly gospel. it has literally no context and now it's gonna get spammed by retarded EDSers over and over again.

[Anonymous No.16138233]

>>16138224
the first book in the culture series is quite different and might give you the wrong impression, so starting with the player of games is probably better
you could read them in any order basically though as they are self-contained stories

[Anonymous No.16138234]

>>16138232
Falcon 9 wasn't a Heavy Lift Expendable launch vehicle in its version 1.0 incarnation. Starship will be a superheavy lift launch vehicle eventually (something the Shuttle never did unless you count SLS as Shuttle derived hardware and that's a stretch), but it isn't one yet.

[Anonymous No.16138235]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1781862255103037932

[Anonymous No.16138241]

>>16138235
interstellar makes me cringe

[Anonymous No.16138243]

>>16138235
This is exactly how I watched IFT-1. If you havent watched a Starship launch live with Interstellar music you are missing out on something magical.
>>16138241
Go fuck yourself you stupid nigger. If you dont like that one use Mountains or Final Frontier.

[Anonymous No.16138249]

Mini melty, cry me a river faggot I wont be forced to like your shitty pop sci redditor movie

[Anonymous No.16138253]

>>16138243
it's just not a good film. the director is a hack. the story is contrived. and nothing hans zimmer has ever composed is original or moving

[Anonymous No.16138254]

We should launch rockets to the stars instead of launching them at eachother

[Anonymous No.16138255]

>>16138254
elon clearly missed the star wars angle

[Anonymous No.16138256]

>>16138253
I agree somewhat, but then on the other hand not really
the director can be a hack but the movies are still very cool sometimes (even if they tend to have retarded plot points or events) and some of the stuff hans zimmer does is cool
who cares if its original or not?

[Anonymous No.16138259]

>>16138255
Rocketry is so beautiful bros

[Anonymous No.16138270]

>>16138198
his baby momma was writing songs about dune like 15 years ago

[Anonymous No.16138271]

>>16138270
He has like 10 of those you have to specify which.

[Anonymous No.16138272]

https://youtu.be/LG3YnbBarHs
why doesnt sfg like this frenchie? he loves this country

[Anonymous No.16138274]

>>16138272
All WAI does is rip off news from other sources like NSF or LabPadre. Definition of a useless middleman. Also youre clearly new, so welcome.

[Anonymous No.16138275]

>>16138271
>like 10 of those
damn

[Anonymous No.16138276]

>>16138271
the one who wrote nerdbait music

[Anonymous No.16138278]

[Anonymous No.16138280]

>>16138274
thank you
>>16138278
can u post the pregant ones with her boobie out?

[Anonymous No.16138290]

>>16138280
This is a blue board. Adapt to the no-porn culture or leave.

[Anonymous No.16138295]

>>16138290
i think it can be consider artful

[Anonymous No.16138298]

>>16138182
that is the ugliest fucking lander of all time
>>16138192
is that TWO spark engines?

[Anonymous No.16138301]

>>16138208
when I go to KSC and look at shit I'm not going to hang out with a bunch of sweaty internet strangers
I'm going to hang out with a plush doll

[Anonymous No.16138303]

>>16138298
I thought it was imporant for the USSR and the US to have different design philosophies. their lander is modelled off the real life vostok
I tried with 1 engine but the low TWR meant a suicide burn was too long to be practical.

[Anonymous No.16138306]

>>16138303
just slap a terrier on there

[Anonymous No.16138308]

>>16138301
Maybe our fumos can meet up then? :3

[Anonymous No.16138310]

>>16138308
nigga that's gay

[Anonymous No.16138312]

>>16138306
good point, maybe next time

[Anonymous No.16138313]

>>16138310
>>16138301
Intelligent fairyposter...? Im surprised you have survival instincts tbqh.

[Anonymous No.16138315]

>>16138313
I would be more likely to kill him than he me desu, I have at least two guns on me at all times

[Anonymous No.16138317]

>>16138315
>he carries too
Ok my bad you are at minimum 120 iq.

[Anonymous No.16138319]

>>16138315
literally you

[Anonymous No.16138321]

>>16138319
Nobody here wants to be your next victim. Give up

[Anonymous No.16138323]

having a meetup and touching fumos is literally gay and that's not cool, that's the only reason

[Anonymous No.16138326]

>>16138321
I only kill animals

[Anonymous No.16138328]

>>16138326
humans are animals, so what are you saying?

[Anonymous No.16138346]

Well that visit from a serial killer was certainly something. How about we get back to rockets? I want to see another one of these payload door tests but with Starlinks already, come on Elon you guys already shit these things out like no tomorrow, what is 5 sats gonna hurt?

[Anonymous No.16138349]

>>16138326
you and me baby we ain't nothing but animals

[Anonymous No.16138357]

dont go to matamoros bros

[Anonymous No.16138392]

>>16138349
so let's GNU it like they GNU on the install gentoo channel

[Anonymous No.16138423]

>>16138317
stupid frogposter

[Anonymous No.16138430]

>>16138423
you win this one fairycel... but next time you wont

[Anonymous No.16138444]

starship booster breakdown footage leaked
look at this!
they have more unreleased footage in their servers!
leak everything if you can!

[Anonymous No.16138448]

>>16138444
>footage
>jpg
Kys

[Anonymous No.16138452]

>>16138444
>IFT-1
everybody and their mom has seen this

[Anonymous No.16138462]

>>16137726
what efficiency?

[Anonymous No.16138466]

>>16138462
10 rolls of duct-tape per minute

[Anonymous No.16138468]

>>16138444
It's public
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_krgcofiM6M

[Anonymous No.16138469]

>>16136952
great thread to commemorate Starship's first launch.

[Anonymous No.16138473]

>>16138468
that rocket was such a heap of shit, it really was good fortune it even cleared the pad

[Anonymous No.16138481]

>there's been only literally one Starship flight in the last year
it's over

[Anonymous No.16138505]

>>16138481
there have been two

[Anonymous No.16138511]

Rocketfags, will pic related work? Can you make a rocket "nozzle" consisting of just a tiny hole drilled through a flat plate, with the correct area to choke the flow? Can you delete the gradual contour that gets smaller and larger?

[Anonymous No.16138542]

I wish to flood lake Eyre with saltwater so the outbacks get more rainfall.

[Anonymous No.16138545]

>>16138511
You can, but the nozzle increases the amount of time the exhaust gas works against the body of the rocket, which greatly increases the amount of thrust per unit of propellant. Once the exhaust flow stops touching the rocket, it does nothing to make the rocket go.

[Anonymous No.16138547]

EDA>>>>>>NSF>>WAI>>>>Austin>>Labpadre

[Anonymous No.16138567]

>>16138511
It would work, but you would be limited to sonic exit velocities and therefore crappy Isp.

[Anonymous No.16138568]

>>16138567
yes it definitely couldn't exceed the speed of sound but there surely is some other losses associated with this geometry

[Anonymous No.16138575]

Zubrin

[Anonymous No.16138578]

>>16138568
Yes there would be more stagnation pressure loss. Although, having no convergent section has an advantage for very small thrusters. Because the vena contracta is smaller than the physical throat, you can get smaller thrusts for the same throat diameter without resorting to more expensive manufacturing techniques.

In some applications, minimum impulse bit is king e.g. space telescopes.

[Anonymous No.16138586]

>>16138578
why do space telescopes need small impulses of thrust

[Anonymous No.16138603]

>>16138586
Long duration continuous compensation for radiation pressure rather than using reaction wheels and needing to lose pointing for wheel offloading manoeuvres.

[Anonymous No.16138625]

>>16138603
disagree

[Anonymous No.16138626]

>>16138603
why not just make the telescope orb shaped so radiation pressure is equal everwywhere and it looks like an eye? telescopeniggers are retarded.

[Anonymous No.16138639]

>>16138626
they can organize the observations and rotate the craft so the solar pressure keeps canceling out angular momentum.

[Anonymous No.16138646]

>>16138626
>telescopeniggers are retarded.
yep, you have no idea how bad it really is.
remember that HST sat in storage for 5 years before it was launched and nobody bothered to use that time to double check the optics for flaws

[Anonymous No.16138652]

>>16138545
Wait, how the fuck does a rocket work? I thought it produces thrust because of the momentum provided by the exhaust gases going in the opposite direction.

[Anonymous No.16138658]

[Anonymous No.16138668]

The new /sfg/ has arrived
>>16138664
>>16138664
>>16138664
>>16138664
>>16138664
>>16138664

[Anonymous No.16138684]

>>16138652
the exhaust gasses can only give kinetic energy to the rocket as long as they are touching it. If you were to shoot water straight out the bottom with no engine bell then it would be like throwing apples to gain momentum, but rocket exhaust primarily works through the massive expansion of the combustion products. They combust and expand so much that they push against the inside of the engine bell hard enough to displace the rocket upward. Once they are out of the bell then they are useless. That's why more efficient engines like RS-25 have a less visible plume

[Anonymous No.16138967]

Which is better, 1x 2000lb bomb or 2x 1000lb?

[Anonymous No.16139147]

>>16138328
You might be.